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Title: Are we the one and only Villa?
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on October 31, 2011, 12:00:53 AM
In the Football League alone there are:

15 Uniteds - Carlisle, Colchester, Hartlepool, Hereford, Leeds, Manchester, Newcastle, Oxford, Peterbrough, Rotherham, Scunthorpe, Sheffield, Southend, Torquay and West Ham

12 Citys - Birmingham, Bradford, Bristol, Cardiff, Coventry, Exeter, Hull, Leicester, Manchester, Norwich, Stoke and Swansea

10 Towns - Aldershot, Cheltenham, Crawley, Huddersfield, Ipswich, Macclesfield, Northampton, Shrewsbury, Swindon and Yeovil

4 Rovers - Blackburn, Bristol, Doncaster and Tranmere

3 Albions - Brighton & Hove, Burton and West Bromwich

3 Athletics - Charlton, Oldham and Wigan

3 Wanderers - Bolton, Wolverhampton and Wycombe

2 Countys - Derby and Notts

But there is only one Villa  ;)

However does anyone know if we are the only Villa in the country?

Are there are Villas in non-league football?

Also where does the name "Villa" come from and what does it actually mean?

Title: Re: Are we the one and only Villa?
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 31, 2011, 12:02:08 AM
There's Pelsall, Askern and the one who lost in the cup on Saturday. The origin of the name Aston Villa is explained in the current H&V.
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Post by: Brian Taylor on October 31, 2011, 12:24:48 AM
There will always be only one 'Villa'
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Post by: itbrvilla on October 31, 2011, 12:30:31 AM
Pine Villa are now called Oldham Athletic I think.
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Post by: Pat McMahon on October 31, 2011, 05:16:55 AM
I think there is a team in the NE called Ashton Villa too - a nice tribute in my eyes.
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Post by: willywombat on October 31, 2011, 06:06:43 AM
I can only think of a few clubs with unique names: Port Vale, Sheffield Wednesday, Tottenham Hotspur, Nottingham Forest, Crewe Alexandra, MK Dons . Anyone think of anymore? Probably a few in Scotland
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Post by: philthebar on October 31, 2011, 06:55:05 AM
Stanway Villa
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Post by: Legion on October 31, 2011, 07:02:55 AM
Does Villareal count?
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Post by: Bernie on October 31, 2011, 07:26:43 AM
There is, or used to be, a team called Bulwell Forest Villa, I think.
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Post by: adamski villa on October 31, 2011, 07:27:38 AM
Euxton Villa, up North just south of Preston
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Post by: Chipsticks on October 31, 2011, 07:53:12 AM
I can only think of a few clubs with unique names: Port Vale, Sheffield Wednesday, Tottenham Hotspur, Nottingham Forest, Crewe Alexandra, MK Dons . Anyone think of anymore? Probably a few in Scotland

Hamilton Academical, Iverness Caledonian Thistle
Title: Re: Are we the one and only Villa?
Post by: UK Redsox on October 31, 2011, 08:09:24 AM
What about that French band ?  ;)
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Post by: Zhong Yi on October 31, 2011, 08:17:39 AM
there was a TV programme called Crapstone Villa once. Always wondered if it was a dig at the name of our club! Bastards.
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Post by: Vancouver on October 31, 2011, 08:27:32 AM
There's a couple of local clubs down the south that were started up by a villa and villa on the end.
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on October 31, 2011, 08:58:22 AM
Hanworth Villa just got knocked out of the FA Cup. If they'd beaten AFC Totton in the 4th Qualifying Round, they'd have been in the 1st round of the FA Cup.

Pelsall Villa are probably the best known other Villa otherwise.
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Post by: Grande Pablo on October 31, 2011, 09:27:09 AM
You may all recall in a bizarre twist of concidence, John Robson rocked up to manage Pelsall Villa at some point in the early 80's.  I've still got his autograph in green felt pen!
Title: Re: Are we the one and only Villa?
Post by: CJ on October 31, 2011, 10:14:15 AM
I can only think of a few clubs with unique names: Port Vale, Sheffield Wednesday, Tottenham Hotspur, Nottingham Forest, Crewe Alexandra, MK Dons . Anyone think of anymore? Probably a few in Scotland

Hamilton Academical, Iverness Caledonian Thistle

There's also Partick Thistle in Scotland. 

And don't forget Accrington Stanley. Accrington is the town and one of the founders of the league.  'Stanley' is from a working men's club in Accrington who were originally - wait for it - Stanley Villa!
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Post by: Irish villain on October 31, 2011, 10:26:40 AM
I came across a Park Villa in Ireland somewhere once but can't remember if they are like a non league club or if it was just an under-age thing. I'll try to find out.
Title: Re: Are we the one and only Villa?
Post by: Legion on October 31, 2011, 10:33:27 AM
Villa Park (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villa_Park,_California)
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Post by: Phil from the upper holte on October 31, 2011, 10:43:00 AM
Port Vale are unique as well aren't they? Only club not to be named after the place they are in
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Post by: dave.woodhall on October 31, 2011, 10:44:44 AM
Port Vale are unique as well aren't they? Only club not to be named after the place they are in

Arsenal. 
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Post by: Barry Shaw on October 31, 2011, 10:53:38 AM
I live in a village near Bromsgrove called Fairfield and our team is called Fairfield Villa.
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Post by: gervilla on October 31, 2011, 11:29:06 AM
I came across a Park Villa in Ireland somewhere once but can't remember if they are like a non league club or if it was just an under-age thing. I'll try to find out.

There is an Ashtown Villa over here too.
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Post by: Risso on October 31, 2011, 11:46:41 AM
Port Vale are unique as well aren't they? Only club not to be named after the place they are in

Arsenal. 


Sort of.  They were Woolwich Arsenal to start with weren't they?
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 31, 2011, 11:52:38 AM
Villa Park (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villa_Park,_California)

Kevin Costner graduated from Villa Park High School in 1973
Title: Re: Are we the one and only Villa?
Post by: itbrvilla on October 31, 2011, 11:53:22 AM
I think the champions of Uganda or somewhere near are called S.C Villa after us.
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Post by: Bernie on October 31, 2011, 11:59:29 AM
Port Vale are unique as well aren't they? Only club not to be named after the place they are in

Arsenal.
Raith Rovers?
Title: Re: Are we the one and only Villa?
Post by: olaftab on October 31, 2011, 12:30:02 PM
4 Athletics not 3 with addition of AFC Bournemouth.
Title: Re: Are we the one and only Villa?
Post by: olaftab on October 31, 2011, 12:31:40 PM
I can only think of a few clubs with unique names: Port Vale, Sheffield Wednesday, Tottenham Hotspur, Nottingham Forest, Crewe Alexandra, MK Dons . Anyone think of anymore? Probably a few in Scotland

Hamilton Academical, Iverness Caledonian Thistle
Celtic.
Title: Re: Are we the one and only Villa?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 31, 2011, 12:34:28 PM
4 Athletics not 3 with addition of AFC Bournemouth.

Isn't their official name still something like Bournemouth & Boscombe Athletic Football Club? They just use AFC Bournemouth as a trade name as it's a bit less of a mouthful?
Title: Re: Are we the one and only Villa?
Post by: Lee on October 31, 2011, 12:43:43 PM
Coombs Wood Villa
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Post by: olaftab on October 31, 2011, 12:44:54 PM
Isn't their official name still something like Bournemouth & Boscombe Athletic Football Club? They just use AFC Bournemouth as a trade name as it's a bit less of a mouthful?
Yes that is correct. AFC was invented in 1972 by John Bond ...after we beat them in that famous  game at VP!
Title: Re: Are we the one and only Villa?
Post by: villa1 on October 31, 2011, 12:47:53 PM
Wollescote Villa.

Not sure if they're still around. 
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Post by: villa1 on October 31, 2011, 12:49:20 PM
Wollescote Villa.

Not sure if they're still around. 
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Post by: The Laughing Policeman on October 31, 2011, 03:30:31 PM
Port Vale are unique as well aren't they? Only club not to be named after the place they are in
Add to them Grimsby Town who have always played at Blundell Park in Cleethorpes.
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Post by: Phil from the upper holte on October 31, 2011, 03:33:22 PM
Yeah but Grimsby is a place, Arsenal were woolich Arsenal as Risso said
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Post by: Reuben on October 31, 2011, 04:41:37 PM
(Plymouth) Argyle is unique too.
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Post by: TopDeck113 on October 31, 2011, 07:12:07 PM
(Plymouth) Argyle is unique too.

Preston North End (although there's Glossop NE in the non-league),Leyton Orient and (spit) MK Dons.
Title: Re: Are we the one and only Villa?
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 31, 2011, 07:56:45 PM
There's a Villa Park in The Hague, Holland.

There's Villa Aston FC in Mauritius.
Title: Re: Are we the one and only Villa?
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 31, 2011, 11:50:33 PM
Sevilla FC.

Indeed I believe they named the city after us.
Title: Re: Are we the one and only Villa?
Post by: Archie on November 01, 2011, 01:14:22 AM
As you surely know, Villa is a Latin and now an Italian name as well, so in Italy there are lots of villages, and consequently teams, named: Villa.

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Title: Re: Are we the one and only Villa?
Post by: Lucky Eddie on November 01, 2011, 12:37:42 PM
How come WBA named themselves after West Bromwich when they are, were and have always been from Birmingham? ;-)
Title: Re: Are we the one and only Villa?
Post by: Lee on November 01, 2011, 01:18:31 PM
How come WBA named themselves after West Bromwich when they are, were and have always been from Birmingham? ;-)

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Post by: OasisVillain on November 02, 2011, 02:48:11 PM
Villa Park (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villa_Park,_California)

Kevin Costner graduated from Villa Park High School in 1973

I went to California on holiday in 1992 and i'm sure I have a photo somewhere of me and my villa supporting mate standing beside a signpost with 'Villa Park' on it, IIRC it was a place near Anaheim.
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Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 02, 2011, 06:54:37 PM
I went to California on holiday in 1992 and i'm sure I have a photo somewhere of me and my villa supporting mate standing beside a signpost with 'Villa Park' on it, IIRC it was a place near Anaheim.

There is, it comes up on the newsnow Villa feed from time to time.
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Post by: Dave Cooper please on November 02, 2011, 07:36:21 PM
In my early days in the Birmingham Works League I'm sure I once played against Ansells Villa.
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Post by: ez on November 02, 2011, 09:32:10 PM
Acton Villa
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Post by: PONGO49 on November 02, 2011, 09:43:24 PM
I've heard my old man go on about Fucking Villa, does that count
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Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 02, 2011, 09:56:20 PM
ASTON VILLA . Even the name is beautiful symmetrical, with five letters in each word. (John Gregory)
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Post by: villajk on November 03, 2011, 04:21:43 PM
http://www.clubwebsite.co.uk/astonvillabc1993/114384/Home

A Facebook friend's nephew plays for the above.
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Post by: avwebby on November 03, 2011, 06:37:19 PM
Celtic Villa in Woking. Scottish guy started the team was a Villa fan.

Still have a beer with him 
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Post by: pedro25 on November 03, 2011, 07:09:28 PM
Villas Boas, David Villa.
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Post by: TaxDodger on November 03, 2011, 09:51:04 PM
Lenton Villa play in the Sunday Leagues in Nottingham.
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Post by: TheSandman on November 03, 2011, 09:59:26 PM
I can only think of a few clubs with unique names: Port Vale, Sheffield Wednesday, Tottenham Hotspur, Nottingham Forest, Crewe Alexandra, MK Dons . Anyone think of anymore? Probably a few in Scotland

Hamilton Academical, Iverness Caledonian Thistle
Celtic.

There's a Farsley Celtic too.
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Post by: eric woolban woolban on November 03, 2011, 10:13:20 PM
I can only think of a few clubs with unique names: Port Vale, Sheffield Wednesday, Tottenham Hotspur, Nottingham Forest, Crewe Alexandra, MK Dons . Anyone think of anymore? Probably a few in Scotland

You forgot 'fuckin' Leeds'.
Title: Re: Are we the one and only Villa?
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on November 03, 2011, 10:16:06 PM
I can only think of a few clubs with unique names: Port Vale, Sheffield Wednesday, Tottenham Hotspur, Nottingham Forest, Crewe Alexandra, MK Dons . Anyone think of anymore? Probably a few in Scotland

You forgot 'fuckin' Leeds'.

And 'Leeds Scum'
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Post by: eric woolban woolban on November 03, 2011, 10:16:56 PM
or even 'Dirty Leeds'
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Post by: Dave Cooper please on November 04, 2011, 09:17:00 AM
I can only think of a few clubs with unique names: Port Vale, Sheffield Wednesday, Tottenham Hotspur, Nottingham Forest, Crewe Alexandra, MK Dons . Anyone think of anymore? Probably a few in Scotland

Hamilton Academical, Iverness Caledonian Thistle
Celtic.

There's a Farsley Celtic too.

And Stalybridge Celtic and also Cleator Moor Celtic.
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Post by: Drummond on November 04, 2011, 05:49:58 PM
edited as pointless given that someone else said what I did a couple of pages ago.......

MK Dons, that's original.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on November 04, 2011, 11:02:33 PM
edited as pointless given that someone else said what I did a couple of pages ago.......

MK Dons, that's original.

Hardly original in the strictest sense.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on November 13, 2011, 10:27:13 PM
I went to Elburton Villa's ground yesterday.
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Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on January 20, 2012, 08:59:19 PM
Also where does the name "Villa" come from and what does it actually mean?

Okay so it comes from Villa Road/Villa Cross in Handsworth/Lozells.

There was/is a church caled Villa Cross Wesleyan Chapel which was known as Aston Villa Wesleyan Chapel (according to Wiki.)

I think this is now the George Street New Testament Church of God.

The sad thing is that most people in Handsworth/Lozells don't even support Villa (gloryhunters) even though they have such a famous and magnificent club founded in their area on their doorstep  :(
Title: Re: Are we the one and only Villa?
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 20, 2012, 09:04:48 PM
No it doesn't.
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Post by: Richard C on January 20, 2012, 09:07:21 PM
There is Abbey Villa, a junior club in Northern Ireland.
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Post by: Richard C on January 20, 2012, 09:11:19 PM
 Also in Hopkinton and Uxbridge
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Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 20, 2012, 09:17:10 PM
Also where does the name "Villa" come from and what does it actually mean?

Okay so it comes from Villa Road/Villa Cross in Handsworth/Lozells.

There was/is a church caled Villa Cross Wesleyan Chapel which was known as Aston Villa Wesleyan Chapel (according to Wiki.)

I think this is now the George Street New Testament Church of God.

The sad thing is that most people in Handsworth/Lozells don't even support Villa (gloryhunters) even though they have such a famous and magnificent club founded in their area on their doorstep  :(

Aston Villa FC< was founded in March, 1874. It began as an off-shoot of the nearby Aston Villa Wesleyan Chapel, which was established in 1850. The origin of the name derives from the area that contained a house of the name Aston Villa that was built in the 1700s, a 'villa' being a type of house. 'Aston' is the name of an ancient area which was adjacent to Birmingham and is now part of Birmingham. The house gave its name to the district where the Chapel was built.

There was no specific founder of the club. The football club has its origins in The Aston Villa Wesleyan Chapel Cricket Club, which had been started two years previously (1872). The "Aston Villa" name, however, is linked to the Chapel which was started years before, and not just to the sporting activities, and that (in turn) was named after a local Georgian house, so the club's name is truly ancient in comparison to other football clubs.
 
http://www.lerwill-life.org.uk/astonvilla/a_villa_history.htm
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Post by: oldtimernow on January 20, 2012, 09:26:26 PM
there is a very aptly named Haw Paw Villa............not actually a football team but the home of the owner of Tiger Balm in Singapore

say it as a chinaman would and you soon see the aptness oooze out 
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Post by: UK Redsox on January 20, 2012, 09:56:55 PM
http://www.astonvillamotel.com/
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Post by: Dave Clark Five on January 20, 2012, 11:10:33 PM
At Hartlepool in the League Cup, they were selling Villa Lemonade. That was the year of the pub bombings.
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Post by: Warren Aspinall on January 22, 2012, 09:34:42 AM
How come WBA named themselves after West Bromwich when they are, were and have always been from Birmingham? ;-)

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