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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on October 30, 2011, 07:35:29 PM

Title: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: Legion on October 30, 2011, 07:35:29 PM
From Interview with Ron Saunders (http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=45121.0):

I always thought it would be perfect to have in the Villa Park tunnel, as Liverpool have 'This is Anfield', a sign that reads 'The Full Ron Saunders'.

'The Full Ron Saunders'. That's a great idea. Could we get a campaign going or have it mentioned somewhere? Would be in keeping with all the banners that were introduced. We need to make VP a fortress.

Your thoughts?
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: Irish villain on October 30, 2011, 07:49:29 PM
As I said I think it's an idea. It's something that would speak to our players, and their opponents, about our proud history. it would shout 'We have been winners, we have been the very best in Europe, go out there, give the cause 110% and hockey this lot into oblivion'.

Also, unlike the 'bells are ringing' campaign, there is little scope for this to be messed up from the other end. All we want is the quote in the tunnel. It would be more effective than the current, rather bland,  'this is Aston Villa'.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: Ross on October 30, 2011, 07:51:18 PM
I'm afraid most players would say "Who?"
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: Legion on October 30, 2011, 07:52:04 PM
As I said I think it's an idea. It's something that would speak to our players, and their opponents, about our proud history. it would shout 'We have been winners, we have been the very best in Europe, go out there, give the cause 110% and hockey this lot into oblivion'.

Also, unlike the 'bells are ringing' campaign, there is little scope for this to be messed up from the other end. All we want is the quote in the tunnel. It would be more effective than the current, rather bland,  'this is Aston Villa'.

Totally agree.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: Legion on October 30, 2011, 07:52:27 PM
I'm afraid most players would say "Who?"

Then they need educating.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: nigel on October 30, 2011, 07:59:16 PM
How about getting Ron in to give Alex a helping hand?
One things for sure he'd take no s**t from these big time charlies!!
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: Witton Warrior on October 30, 2011, 07:59:22 PM
Just put a picture of him up - staring - would motivate me!
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: Pete3206 on October 30, 2011, 08:12:49 PM
Just put a picture of him up - staring - would motivate me!

"Do you want to bet against us?"

(http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icbirmingham/mar2007/6/8/792543E0-C445-092A-5F5274782D74715F.jpg)
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 30, 2011, 08:14:15 PM
I'm afraid most players would say "Who?"

That's kind of the point, Ross. If there's one thing Villa fans expect from the team is that each player gives 110%. We can be very forgiving if a player lacks technical finesse but not giving everything you've got for 90 minutes is unforgiveable. Once players realise that and by touching the sign are making 'a promise' to go out there and give their all, it's a timely reminder that they're playing for a great, historical club where the greatest of heights have been reached by giving 110% effort.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: olaftab on October 30, 2011, 08:15:27 PM
Can we name a stand after Ron? Witton End or Witton Lane either would do.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: Legion on October 30, 2011, 08:53:35 PM
For starters (https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/110-The-Full-Ron-Saunders/133719960066291)
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on October 30, 2011, 08:58:29 PM
Yes :) to sign and stand :) and he should replace Alex McLeish as manager. :)
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: bob on October 30, 2011, 09:01:04 PM
Not sure I'd go for it if I was the current manager.
And if I was a current player it wouldn't make any difference to how I played.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: DrGonzo on October 30, 2011, 10:15:58 PM
Yes :) to sign and stand :) and he should replace Alex McLeish as manager. :)


I was wondering if it might be possible to get him in for a chat with the squad... strictly informal, obviously.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: hawkeye on October 30, 2011, 11:31:09 PM
No one should under estimate what he did for our club, he should be given the recognition he deserves while he is still alive.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: oldtimernow on October 31, 2011, 07:51:16 AM
agreed
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: nigel on October 31, 2011, 08:42:02 AM
No one should under estimate what he did for our club, he should be given the recognition he deserves while he is still alive.
Spot on, agree 110%
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on October 31, 2011, 04:04:35 PM
Not too sure about a sign in the tunnel. As someone has already said it probably wouldn't resonate with today's players.
We can't really push to have the Witton Lane renamed after him because the bloke who it was named after is still alive. As for the Witton End, would you want to have a stand that's earmarked for demolition ( sometime in the near future) named after the great man?
How about "The Holte End Saunders Stand" or "The Ron Saunders Holte End"?
Yes I can see all the "heretic how dare you" posts coming from this but it's worth thinking about. And by the way apart from Mr. McGregor, Ron Saunders is the only other persons name I'd like to see associated with the Holte End.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: Percy McCarthy on October 31, 2011, 04:17:31 PM
And by the way apart from Mr. McGregor, Ron Saunders is the only other persons name I'd like to see associated with the Holte End.

Ramsay is at least as deserving, and I'd say Rinder too.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: cheltenhamlion on October 31, 2011, 05:36:25 PM
We could line the tunnel with great quotes. The full Ron Saunders, Rinder about nothing but the best being acceptable for us etc.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: Legion on October 31, 2011, 07:40:13 PM
We could line the tunnel with great quotes. The full Ron Saunders, Rinder about nothing but the best being acceptable for us etc.

'Do you want to bet against us?' being the final one? Or 'This is the Aston Villa football club, and it deserves nothing short of the best.'?
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on October 31, 2011, 07:51:13 PM
No one should under estimate what he did for our club, he should be given the recognition he deserves while he is still alive.
Absolutely!
He put a fantastic team together on a budget and made them (almost) invincible.
I consider myself lucky to have been alive to have witnessed it, wallowed in it and still be happy and proud thinking about some of the best times in the club's history.

Ron Saunders. Legend.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: cheltenhamlion on October 31, 2011, 07:54:04 PM
That's right Lee. Have a montage that builds up to the final one saying what we expect of the players.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: Vanilla on October 31, 2011, 07:57:19 PM
I'm afraid most players would say "Who?"

Sadly you are right.

In fact I bet most players have to look at the name on their shirt to remember who they are actually playing for nowadays, it means that little to them.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: Legion on October 31, 2011, 07:58:26 PM
That's right Lee. Have a montage that builds up to the final one saying what we expect of the players.

Sounds good to me. Hope the club pick up on this.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: Irish villain on October 31, 2011, 10:01:52 PM
That's right Lee. Have a montage that builds up to the final one saying what we expect of the players.

Sounds good to me. Hope the club pick up on this.

Fantastic idea. Sounds quite inspirational actually.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: KevinGage on October 31, 2011, 10:21:47 PM
And by the way apart from Mr. McGregor, Ron Saunders is the only other persons name I'd like to see associated with the Holte End.

Ramsay is at least as deserving, and I'd say Rinder too.

Yes.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: cheltenhamlion on November 01, 2011, 12:09:16 AM
See above. it might be quite nice to hit both teams with some history. Its just that ours would be used to it. Remind all the buggers that play at Villa Park of our importance.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 01, 2011, 12:18:22 AM
From my somewhat limited knowledge of our early years i've always felt the role of Rinder is under appreciated. Does anyone know if there is any kind of tribute to him in VP?
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: cheltenhamlion on November 01, 2011, 12:22:53 AM
Nothing worthwhile.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: Legion on November 07, 2011, 12:12:46 PM
Update: The club really like the idea and are actively looking at implementing something. It will probably not be in the tunnel though, more likely in one of the concourses or the players areas.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: Irish villain on November 07, 2011, 12:52:42 PM
Thanks for the update Legion. Surprised it wouldn't be in the tunnel though. That's where it'd have a real impact.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: Billy Walker on November 07, 2011, 03:05:12 PM
Just put a picture of him up - staring - would motivate me!

"Do you want to bet against us?"

(http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icbirmingham/mar2007/6/8/792543E0-C445-092A-5F5274782D74715F.jpg)

That's the quote for me.

Maybe with something from McGregor there, too. 
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: Legion on November 07, 2011, 06:12:12 PM
Thanks for the update Legion. Surprised it wouldn't be in the tunnel though. That's where it'd have a real impact.

Quote from: Marketing Department
There isn’t a lot of room in the tunnel as it is largely full with interview backdrop boards.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: Irish villain on November 07, 2011, 06:17:58 PM
Thanks for the update Legion. Surprised it wouldn't be in the tunnel though. That's where it'd have a real impact.

Quote from: Marketing Department
There isn’t a lot of room in the tunnel as it is largely full with interview backdrop boards.

To replace the 'This is Aston Villa' on the actual tunnel under the crest? Fair play to them for getting back to us anyway.  Thanks too  for your response and the efforts you have made.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: Billy Walker on November 07, 2011, 06:30:42 PM
Thanks for the update Legion. Surprised it wouldn't be in the tunnel though. That's where it'd have a real impact.

Quote from: Marketing Department
There isn’t a lot of room in the tunnel as it is largely full with interview backdrop boards.

To replace the 'This is Aston Villa' on the actual tunnel under the crest? Fair play to them for getting back to us anyway.  Thanks too  for your response and the efforts you have made.

In an ideal world this is what needs to be done.  Whatever we put up needs to go in the tunnel right before the players go on the pitch otherwise it will lose its impact.  It's a great effort, though, regardless of what goes up and where.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: D.boy on November 07, 2011, 07:05:27 PM
Thanks for the update Legion. Surprised it wouldn't be in the tunnel though. That's where it'd have a real impact.

Quote from: Marketing Department
There isn’t a lot of room in the tunnel as it is largely full with interview backdrop boards.

The interview backdrops are in a side room off the tunnel as is the room where the 2 managers socialise/have drinks/nibbles and watch the other results on TV. Do the tour and you will see for yourselves.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: gervilla on November 07, 2011, 09:41:38 PM
Thanks for the update Legion. Surprised it wouldn't be in the tunnel though. That's where it'd have a real impact.

Quote from: Marketing Department
There isn’t a lot of room in the tunnel as it is largely full with interview backdrop boards.

The interview backdrops are in a side room off the tunnel as is the room where the 2 managers socialise/have drinks/nibbles and watch the other results on TV. Do the tour and you will see for yourselves.

There are some interview backdrops in the tunnel as well.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on November 08, 2011, 12:10:27 AM
Thanks for the update Legion. It's nice to know that the club are taking notice.
If as the club says there isn't the space in the tunnel for the quotes can I suggest that the visitors dressing room has a giant Villa badge on one wall with "Do You Want To Bet Against Us?" underneath.
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: eamonn on November 08, 2011, 01:40:52 AM
I see Troy Eccles has posted on the facebook page - has he been banned from here?
Title: Re: The Full Ron Saunders
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on November 09, 2011, 10:06:17 PM
Could there be room for NFL style of hall of fame in Villa Park ie Gerry Hitchens and co.

Let say there is 100 players deserve it and have we got space to put all those name up
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