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Title: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 25, 2011, 04:31:08 PM: 0-1 away win.

N'Zogbia 65
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on October 25, 2011, 04:35:50 PM: 2-0, Bendtner and Bardsley.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on October 25, 2011, 04:37:50 PM: 2-0 Sunderland, Bent to miss a pen.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 25, 2011, 05:14:03 PM: Them 2 Us 1.

My first prediction of a defeat this season. Let's hope it's as accurate as my prediction we would win at City.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: IRISHPHIL on October 25, 2011, 05:15:34 PM: hopefully team on saturday is given hutton dunne collins warnock delp petrov herd ireland bent and gabby
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on October 25, 2011, 05:22:37 PM: I find it difficult to see where our next win will come from.
This is a bit of a pity as I am shelling out ofr 3 tickest for the Norwich game ;-(
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VancouverLion on October 25, 2011, 06:15:22 PM: 1-1 Bent, Dunne og
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on October 25, 2011, 06:21:29 PM: I've gone for a draw - 2-2 - more in hope than expectation
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on October 25, 2011, 06:23:14 PM: Bent to score,us to lose,shit to hit the fan.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KRS on October 25, 2011, 06:58:06 PM: Head says home win, heart says we need to steady the ship with a...draw.

Has it really come to this that I'd be grateful for a draw at Sunderland? Jesus wept.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on October 25, 2011, 07:45:25 PM: Bent hat-trick to silence the bitter Mackems.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Barca 2011 on October 25, 2011, 08:06:37 PM: Sorry, but with all the crap over the last few days, will be
lucky to get a draw.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on October 25, 2011, 08:12:29 PM: We have to at least get a point.

1-1

And lets face it Sunderland are no task at this time, out of form, inconsistent, rumours around the manager.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on October 25, 2011, 08:22:17 PM: 0-4. Collins 29, Agbonlahor 64, 70, Bent pen 89.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on October 25, 2011, 08:24:26 PM: 2-1 Sunderland, last minute winner for them.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lobsterboy on October 25, 2011, 08:35:09 PM: 2-0 win.

Bent to open the scoring and Gabby to seal it late on

Lovely!
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on October 25, 2011, 08:44:31 PM: 2-0 Sunderland.

Hope we get a shot on goal :-)
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: littlevillain on October 25, 2011, 08:55:27 PM: can't see them not scoring in this one, still we should have enough for at least another draw. however a heavy defeat will completely bring the doom and gloom merchants out and Mcleish will be hung.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on October 25, 2011, 09:20:46 PM: Quote from: littlevillain on October 25, 2011, 08:55:27 PM
can't see them not scoring in this one, still we should have enough for at least another draw. however a heavy defeat will completely bring the doom and gloom merchants out and Mcleish will be hung.

Can't see us losing this, watched Sunderland the other week and they where worse then we have ever been this season, I've only seen 1 team worse this far, although Bolton are having a good attempt at it.

Minimum draw, i think we will claw back some bonus points at the weekend.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Compass on October 25, 2011, 09:30:23 PM: Why do people still think N'Zogbia will score? He's been by far our worse player and that's saying something considering the majority of players who have been poor for us. He struggles bringing the ball forward let alone finding the net. No doubt this is the fault of the manager because he wasn't this bad at Wigan and Newcastle, even spells when he went missing.

I'm not sure about this tbh. Sunderland haven't been that great this season and they pratically have no decent strikers. We have to get something out of this game. I won't be surprised if we lose this match considering we have a manager who can't set up a team to get enough chances at home nevermind away. Then that will be 3 matches lost in a row and Norwich will be make or break for McLeish. Lose that and the negative chants will be so strong at Villa Park that the atmosphere when Houllier lost against Wolves at VP will seem like heaven.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on October 25, 2011, 09:40:05 PM: Quote from: Compass on October 25, 2011, 09:30:23 PM
Why do people still think N'Zogbia will score? He's been by far our worse player and that's saying something considering the majority of players who have been poor for us. He struggles bringing the ball forward let alone finding the net. No doubt this is the fault of the manager because he wasn't this bad at Wigan and Newcastle, even spells when he went missing.

I'm not sure about this tbh. Sunderland haven't been that great this season and they pratically have no decent strikers. We have to get something out of this game. I won't be surprised if we lose this match considering we have a manager who can't set up a team to get enough chances at home nevermind away. Then that will be 3 matches lost in a row and Norwich will be make or break for McLeish. Lose that and the negative chants will be so strong at Villa Park that the atmosphere when Houllier lost against Wolves at VP will seem like heaven.

If we lost to Sunderland and then went onto lose to Norwich with Spurs, Man Utd and Liverpool coming thick and fast McLiesh would be a fool to even consider turning up at the club for work..

Can't see it happening TBH.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: petegoldring on October 25, 2011, 09:54:20 PM: A dreadful 1-1.

God how depressing - hoping for a draw at Sunderland.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: willywombat on October 25, 2011, 10:22:14 PM: Quote from: petegoldring on October 25, 2011, 09:54:20 PM
A dreadful 1-1.

God how depressing - hoping for a draw at Sunderland.

I must have accidentally slipped into a parallel universe where the mighty Aston Villa once used to routinely collect an easy 3 points from an away fixture at Sunderland. Sorry but I dont think coming away from there with a point is depressing at all
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on October 25, 2011, 11:38:58 PM: scares me this match.. if i had to pick an away win when the fixtures came out this would have been one.

2-2
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on October 25, 2011, 11:54:30 PM: 1-1

Bannan will be a big loss. Ireland has to play or we will lack any sort of creativity.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on October 26, 2011, 01:51:50 AM: 2-0 to the black cats over the lions, booo!
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on October 26, 2011, 02:43:42 AM: Id go with

Given
Cuellar, Collins, Dunne, Warnock
----Herd,---------Clark
----------Petrov--------------
Ireland, Bent, Gabby

Pressure will be on McLeish if we lose this. After the shit with Bannan this week, he needs a performance and a result. His reign hasnt kicked off yet at all. The only two games we have won have been at home to Blackburn and Wigan. A win at Sunderland would be very welcome indeed.

A final thing - No Emile fucking Heskey please
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on October 26, 2011, 06:51:56 AM: 2 -1 FT Bent '39, Ireland '61 | Bendtner '88

Given
Cuellar Dunne Collins Warnock
Petrov
Delph Ireland
N'Zogbia Gabby
Bent

I think we'll take it. Though there will be a late scare.

cmon boys, if sunderland jump us this week and we fall to 14 or 15 i'll be suicidal. don't ruin my week.

utv.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mr Diggles on October 26, 2011, 08:27:49 AM: Unfortunately I think this is the start of the long and rocky road to January, that's not me being incredibly downbeat (well, it is) because I just don't think we can compete against some of the better teams nor away from home. I honestly think we'll only pick up 7-10 points between now and the Swansea match in January.

So in that spirit, Sunderland will spawn a win, even though Villa put up a decent fight. Bent will not score and will be pilloried by the home fans. The lack of any creative spark in the midfield will cost us massively.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on October 26, 2011, 08:29:03 AM: 1-0
Late Bent Winner
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on October 26, 2011, 08:32:30 AM: Quote from: TimTheVillain on October 25, 2011, 08:44:31 PM
2-0 Sunderland.

Hope we get a shot on goal :-)

My prediction too, this will be the start of the road to a battle against relegation which I predicted about 3 or 4 matches ago....in which I take absolutely no pleasure at all
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on October 26, 2011, 08:37:43 AM: I'm going. It's going to be horrible. We'll in all likelihood lose. Emile will be in the starting line up. My train will be delayed. It will rain.

So on that basis I'm going for a 2-0 villa win.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Newquay_AVFC on October 26, 2011, 08:43:54 AM: It's my 30th on Sunday and it was a straight choice between a weekend in brum and Sunderland on the lash or a weekend with wife and kids in London. I really didn't think i would opt for London but i have, so no doubt we will win 6-2. 2 down after 15 mins followed by the best football we have played for years. Bent to score 4 Gabby and Collins with the others.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 26, 2011, 10:00:32 AM: I think I'd revert to 4-4-2 this weekend.

Given

Cuellar
Collins
Dunne
Warnock

Albrighton
Herd
Petrov
N'Zogbia

Bent
Agbonlahor
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on October 26, 2011, 10:56:41 AM: Quote from: N'ZMAV on October 26, 2011, 10:00:32 AM
I think I'd revert to 4-4-2 this weekend.

Given

Cuellar
Collins
Dunne
Warnock

Albrighton
Herd
Petrov
N'Zogbia

Bent
Agbonlahor

what a lackluster of a midfield that is at the moment ;(
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on October 26, 2011, 11:00:54 AM: Quote from: richard moore on October 26, 2011, 08:32:30 AM
Quote from: TimTheVillain on October 25, 2011, 08:44:31 PM
2-0 Sunderland.

Hope we get a shot on goal :-)

My prediction too, this will be the start of the road to a battle against relegation which I predicted about 3 or 4 matches ago....in which I take absolutely no pleasure at all

Sad to say i think you are both bang on the money.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Blackcountry Villa on October 26, 2011, 11:18:41 AM: 3-1 defeat and Larsson to show why we should have signed him. Oh i forgot we got Jenas, yay.

Realistically we need to win both of our next two games with Swansea a, Spurs a, Man Utd h, Arsenal h, Bolton a, Liverpool h, Stoke a, Chelsea a coming up. The only one of those i could see us possibly winning is Bolton away.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertommykN'iba on October 26, 2011, 11:23:44 AM: Would be good to get Herd back in the team, looked promising in the midfield. Maybe not just him and Petrov in the centre, bit lightweight. Think Ireland will break his duck and turn in a top performance, other than that, Bendtner is nailed on to score against us, probably late on to prevent a victory....

Sunderland 1 Aston Villa 1
Bendtner (90+3) Ireland (73)

Couple of beers after the game reflecting on a top day out and what a shame it is we had to watch the Villa in the middle.......!
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Reuben on October 26, 2011, 11:52:24 AM: Don't we normally beat Steve Bruce teams away with Gabby having a stormer?

Any result with less than 5 goals in it wouldn't surprise me.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 26, 2011, 01:09:22 PM: Sunderland 2-1 Villa
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 26, 2011, 01:18:47 PM: Villa win.

We've got a good record up there and they're a bit of a soft touch home or away.

Bent to be booed and score a brace.

Creché corner to sing "you've never fun feck all" without a hint of irony again.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 26, 2011, 01:42:20 PM: Quote from: JUAN PABLO on October 26, 2011, 10:56:41 AM
Quote from: N'ZMAV on October 26, 2011, 10:00:32 AM
I think I'd revert to 4-4-2 this weekend.

Given

Cuellar
Collins
Dunne
Warnock

Albrighton
Herd
Petrov
N'Zogbia

Bent
Agbonlahor

what a lackluster of a midfield that is at the moment ;(
I agree, but would throwing Ireland or Delph in improve it at the moment. Sunderland might play Gardner and Cattermole. They'd both be too strong for either of them, therefore Herd and Petrov would be better. Would putting Sidwell and Reo-Coker in there improve it? ;)
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 26, 2011, 01:43:31 PM: Sunderland 0 Villa 3

N'Zogbia to come good. Gabby to score and an OG.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on October 26, 2011, 06:05:57 PM: 1-1 Gabby.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MarkM on October 26, 2011, 09:46:42 PM: Loose 3-0
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: nigel on October 26, 2011, 10:38:29 PM: Quote from: IRISHPHIL on October 25, 2011, 05:15:34 PM
hopefully team on saturday is given hutton dunne collins warnock delp petrov herd ireland bent and gabby
Huttons out, apparently, so it could be Herd or Cuella at RB
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Gazza1982 on October 26, 2011, 11:00:46 PM: Head says 1-1...heart says 2-1 defeat...I hope I'm wrong but with 3 straight defeats and with a difficult run of fixtures, this could be the beginning of the end for Gingernuts, lets face it, its not going to take much is it? If Heskey starts it will say an awful lot.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on October 26, 2011, 11:01:03 PM: Quote from: nigel on October 26, 2011, 10:38:29 PM
Quote from: IRISHPHIL on October 25, 2011, 05:15:34 PM
hopefully team on saturday is given hutton dunne collins warnock delp petrov herd ireland bent and gabby
Huttons out, apparently, so it could be Herd or Cuella at RB
remember kyle walker? :-[
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Barca 2011 on October 27, 2011, 12:16:17 AM: Quote from: villadelph on October 26, 2011, 11:01:03 PM
Quote from: nigel on October 26, 2011, 10:38:29 PM
Quote from: IRISHPHIL on October 25, 2011, 05:15:34 PM
hopefully team on saturday is given hutton dunne collins warnock delp petrov herd ireland bent and gabby
Huttons out, apparently, so it could be Herd or Cuella at RB
remember kyle walker? :-[
Yes, as big a loss as Young or Downing
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KRS on October 27, 2011, 01:18:59 AM: Quote from: Gazza1982 on October 26, 2011, 11:00:46 PM
If Heskey starts it will say an awful lot.
That would probably be the safest bet for this game I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 27, 2011, 08:41:18 AM: Given
Cuellar Collins Dunne Warnock
Petrov
Herd Ireland
Albrighton Gabby
Bent
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on October 27, 2011, 09:11:50 AM: Another crap performance and another defeat 2-0.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 27, 2011, 09:59:30 AM: I'm expecting Heskey to return to the side in for Bannan.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mark H on October 27, 2011, 10:12:32 AM: I hate to say this but I am going for a lose this week - 2-1 :(
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on October 27, 2011, 11:06:45 AM: Dismal defeat is on the cards.

0-2
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on October 27, 2011, 11:32:11 AM: Quote from: PaulTheVillan on October 27, 2011, 08:41:18 AM
Given
Cuellar Collins Dunne Warnock
Petrov
Herd Ireland
Albrighton Gabby
Bent

Spot on!
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on October 27, 2011, 01:10:55 PM: Quote from: PaulTheVillan on October 27, 2011, 09:59:30 AM
I'm expecting Heskey to return to the side in for Bannan.

Sadly, me too.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on October 27, 2011, 02:37:06 PM: I sense a defeat sadly. To be honest, the most depressing thing about the Villa right now is the midfield. Putting aside the loss of Young and Downing on either flank, I look at our centre and there's no player I genuinely rate.
Petrovs had it.
Jenas is bobbins.
Delph isn't good enough.
Bannan isn't consistent enough and IMO has to play in front of a solid midfield 2 anyhow.
Ireland, as above.
Herd isn't good enough and it says it all that many are calling for him to play. That's what it's come to.

I think we'll get turned over personally.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Merv on October 27, 2011, 02:52:29 PM: Agree, Tom. Midfield's been significantly weakened over the last two seasons and even further in the summer - that area of the team completely neglected. We're really suffering now because of it, no wonder we can't get a foothold in games. Chuck in the fact that Bannan's not available for the Sunderland game and we're light there. Jenas supposedly training today but the game's probably too soon for him.

Personally, I think I'd just go for a solid three v Sunderland - Clark, Delph, Herd - to combat the likes of Cattermole (whoever thinks Hutton plays rough, watch this guy) and keep things tight and us in the game. Albrighton-Bent-Gabby as a front three.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on October 27, 2011, 03:21:36 PM: Looks like Huttons fit for Saturday

**cries*
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on October 27, 2011, 04:31:52 PM: I'm going for a return of the form against Wigan. And the result.
Please!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15045618.stm
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villajk on October 27, 2011, 04:40:25 PM: McLeish has just said on the radio that Jenas should be be on the bench on Saturday. He also said that despite 6 stitches to his head wound, Hutton should be available.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on October 27, 2011, 04:51:43 PM: Good sign that Hutton wants to get back in contention for his position.

Jenas? looking forward to his villa debut.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on October 27, 2011, 05:19:01 PM: I am gutted as i was thinking about the team for Sunderland that i would prefer Herd in the midfield to Nzogbia !! As a team we are playing at about 60% of individuals real potential. Ireland barely average, Bent limited service leading to not expecting passes so lacking sharpness and Nzogbia is on another planet. Where is the management and coaching ?? Not confident about any points for this :-(
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: gervilla on October 27, 2011, 08:50:04 PM: It is a sad state of affairs when I can't see us beating that lot.
2-1 to Them.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Gazza1982 on October 27, 2011, 09:14:20 PM: What price a Scott Parker right now, we really missed out there, even if we only got 2 seasons out of him, he would have held the midfield together,led by example and been a great assest to the youngsters.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on October 28, 2011, 12:48:08 AM: Quote from: Lou'zie0 on October 27, 2011, 04:51:43 PM
Good sign that Hutton wants to get back in contention for his position.

Jenas? looking forward to his villa debut.

No chance - he'll get injured in the warm up ;)
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on October 28, 2011, 03:13:32 AM: I want to see Jenas on the field tomorrow.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 28, 2011, 08:48:03 AM: Quote from: villadelph on October 28, 2011, 03:13:32 AM
I want to see Jenas on the field tomorrow.
I don't think he'll be starting.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on October 28, 2011, 10:32:26 AM: 2-1 to them. A late consolation for us.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on October 28, 2011, 10:41:49 AM: They hit a bit of form and were hitting bad form, Bannan suspended and it will have a knock on effect, I vote 3-0 them

Hope im wrong
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on October 28, 2011, 10:44:35 AM: 2-0 to them.

All my predictions so far have been wrong.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: philthebar on October 28, 2011, 10:46:19 AM: Going for a draw and even then I fear it will be a battle. Not optimistic.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on October 28, 2011, 10:55:17 AM: Well, this thread is a bit pessimistic, isn't it? I find it strange that some people were genuinely thinking we'd get something at Man City, which was after a win and decent performance against Wigan, yet lose the last game and we're no match for Sunderland. What's that 'F' word again?

I think it'll be a shit game and a draw.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Merv on October 28, 2011, 11:24:45 AM: Difficult one to call. You never know what you're going to get with Sunderland, but they are one of those teams I always feel you can get a result against.

Then again, they beat us home and away last season.

I've got a feeling it'll be a rather dismal 1-1 draw, Larsson scoring for them.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Barca 2011 on October 28, 2011, 11:36:04 AM: 2-0 Sunderland and the decline continues.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Vanilla on October 28, 2011, 12:01:41 PM: Quote from: Barca 2011 on October 28, 2011, 11:36:04 AM
2-0 Sunderland and the decline continues.

Troublesome game this one. You don't want to play a team who has just 'turned a corner'. Actually at the moment, I don't want us to play anyone. Can we use FIFA 12 to just generate a result?
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on October 28, 2011, 12:08:08 PM: Bent and Gabby up front. Nzogbia on the left and Albrighton on the right all on form should piss this !! am i asking for to much ??
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on October 28, 2011, 12:25:49 PM: Quote from: WALTERS WARRIORS on October 28, 2011, 12:08:08 PM
Bent and Gabby up front. Nzogbia on the left and Albrighton on the right all on form should piss this !! am i asking for to much ??

Disagree, we'd get totally overrun in midfield, barely have the ball all game (as usual), and even when we do get it we'll have no options in centre midfield, meaning passing back to Collins who boofs the ball to the opposition.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 28, 2011, 01:38:07 PM: Quote from: WALTERS WARRIORS on October 28, 2011, 12:08:08 PM
Bent and Gabby up front. Nzogbia on the left and Albrighton on the right all on form should piss this !! am i asking for to much ??
I think we should go for this, back to basics. Stick Herd or Jenas in the middle of the park with Petrov. Worth a punt.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 28, 2011, 01:40:36 PM: I'm looking forward to tomorrow, with Bent getting a load of abuse and scoring the winning goal.

Decent numbers going too.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 28, 2011, 01:45:07 PM: Will Titus Bramble be playing? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-15496032)
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on October 28, 2011, 02:01:05 PM: Villa to win.
Sunderland 1 - Villa 5: Bent (4), N'Zogbia

Bruce resigns afterwards and takes up his dream job as the new face of the Potato Marketing Board.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pig on October 28, 2011, 02:28:34 PM: http://communicatoremail.com/IN/gwkXJUEdKbTvdgPyEqdFTJLkt6TCZPlQeiT7_m8SBx5/WebView.aspx

I think H&V should approach Sunderland about the use of its name.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertommykN'iba on October 28, 2011, 02:37:51 PM: ----------------Given------------------
-Hutton-Collins-Dunne-Warnock-
------------Herd--Petrov-------------
---------------Ireland-----------------
-------N'Zogbia----Agbonlahor-----
-----------------Bent-------------------

Think N'Zogbia will perform, as you may remember Sunderland wanted him in the Summer. Time for Ireland to continue improving, other than that it seems the team picks itself, the squad is that small. Think we will see Heskey though. They've got Gardner, Bendtner and Larsson, all of whom I would not be surprised to see score, just because it's sods law. The optimist in me says 2-1 but now thinking a 2-2 draw is probably the best we'll get. Looking forward to it all the same.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 28, 2011, 04:22:34 PM: Quote from: pig on October 28, 2011, 02:28:34 PM
http://communicatoremail.com/IN/gwkXJUEdKbTvdgPyEqdFTJLkt6TCZPlQeiT7_m8SBx5/WebView.aspx

I think H&V should approach Sunderland about the use of its name.

Sue them, Dave.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andrew08 on October 28, 2011, 05:28:55 PM: Oh I don't know. We were robbed by these twice last year with Heskey missing a sitter at home and Dunne doing what he does better than anyone else at the Stadium of Light. Then again we mugged em 3 times the year before.
I'm just going to have a few beers, enjoy the day out and relax.
Lol Like the result doesn't matter. Us to win....somehow...I don't care how.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: stubbsyandy on October 28, 2011, 06:03:17 PM: I don't know if I am kidding myself, wouldn't be the first time, but I think we will win tomorrow and don't care if it's pretty or not. We need to give Darren the service he needs to get the goals we demand of him, and we need to stop the opposition over running us in midfeld.
No idea on team, but Charlie really must start enjoying his football, he plays like he has forgotten all that made us buy him and looks dejected. Can Albrighton turn it round? And if Steven Ireland is ever going to make it we need to give him a run in the side.
Good luck lads, just make my week a happier one!
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on October 28, 2011, 08:13:44 PM: Looking forward to it tomorrow, i've got a good feeling about it for some reason.

7.30 start on the coach, i must be mad.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on October 28, 2011, 10:19:17 PM: 4-2 to them. Bent with both for us.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on October 28, 2011, 11:37:47 PM: I'd take a draw...
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on October 29, 2011, 08:22:49 AM: A modest improvement on recent weeks: 1-1 with Bent scoring on his return to the Stadium of Light.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tim on October 29, 2011, 09:05:05 AM: This is the sort of game that shows where we're going - after a couple of defeats and off field shenanigans, they either regroup and deliver the goods or... not.
Hopefully the former but with Villa it's hard to get enthusiastic!
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on October 29, 2011, 09:20:43 AM: So Mcleish has admitted he tried to sign Seb Larssen... What a dick admitting that just before we play them.

I was really impressed with Herd before his Red, he looks a battler we've missed in midfield, I am actually quite confident of a win today.

0-2 Gabby, Bent
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on October 29, 2011, 09:35:55 AM: I want to say a win, and I want bent to net it. But its heading for a 1 1 draw I think. Gabby gives us the lead, we sit back, they score and they get a few chances to win it. We come away lucky with a point
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on October 29, 2011, 10:06:36 AM: Quote from: Shrek on October 29, 2011, 09:20:43 AM
So Mcleish has admitted he tried to sign Seb Larssen... What a dick admitting that just before we play them.

I was really impressed with Herd before his Red, he looks a battler we've missed in midfield, I am actually quite confident of a win today.

0-2 Gabby, Bent

I really don't get you people who are seize on every little thing to abuse our manager. It makes no difference to anything that he's said he tried to sign him.
Title: Match
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 29, 2011, 10:23:01 AM: Sunderland 2 (Larsson pen 45+2, C. Gardner 90+6)
Villa 1 (Bent 23, Bent missed pen 88)

It's been that sort of month.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on October 29, 2011, 10:23:09 AM: Quote from: Chris Smith on October 29, 2011, 10:06:36 AM
It makes no difference to anything that he's said he tried to sign him.

Other than, of course, begging the question why, having worked with McLeish once, Larsson would choose to relocate 200 miles away above working with him again...
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lizz on October 29, 2011, 10:27:40 AM: Bore draw - either nil nil or one one.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on October 29, 2011, 10:31:16 AM: Quote from: TopDeck113 on October 29, 2011, 10:23:09 AM
Quote from: Chris Smith on October 29, 2011, 10:06:36 AM
It makes no difference to anything that he's said he tried to sign him.

Other than, of course, begging the question why, having worked with McLeish once, Larsson would choose to relocate 200 miles away above working with him again...

McLeish explained why, the deal with Sunderland was all but done by the time he was appointed at Villa.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 29, 2011, 10:32:01 AM: Well all I can say is come on you Villa boys. I'm doubtful though.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Holtenderinthesky on October 29, 2011, 11:21:42 AM: This has the feel of a pointless match in every sense. (As far as Villa re concerned at least)
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: waynejames on October 29, 2011, 11:27:18 AM: Come on the villa!!
Sunderland 0 Aston Villa Football Club 1
Gardner (OG 90+6)
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villajk on October 29, 2011, 11:28:49 AM: It's dull and depressing up here in Newcastle (no doubt it'll be the same when we get to sunderland). I hope my mood is better than the weather come 5 pm.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on October 29, 2011, 11:56:39 AM: Quote from: TaxDodger on October 25, 2011, 08:22:17 PM
0-4. Collins 29, Agbonlahor 64, 70, Bent pen 89.
No not Bent as we will be 3-0 up by the time this last min penalty is awarded Gabby will take it to get his hat-trick unless of course he is replaced straight after his second by Heskey.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on October 29, 2011, 11:57:09 AM: Must win today. This is exactly the sort of game we need to win if we are to to finish 4th...
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Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brian Taylor on October 29, 2011, 12:13:33 PM: Expecting a Villa win is like doing the lottery. You have the winning ticket up til the moment the balls are drawn!
Villa have to have the winning no's today! Must have!?
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on October 29, 2011, 12:17:19 PM: Sky showing the stat, Villa have won only 1 of their last 8 games in all competitions.

If we dont play well today, AM out anyone?
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: OzVilla on October 29, 2011, 12:17:28 PM: A point would be acceptable, I think we'll lose though.

3-1 Mackams.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 29, 2011, 12:48:37 PM: Quote from: Shrek on October 29, 2011, 12:17:19 PM
Sky showing the stat, Villa have won only 1 of their last 8 games in all competitions.

If we dont play well today, AM out anyone?

He wont get sacked
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brian Taylor on October 29, 2011, 01:05:13 PM: As long as we don't end up lower than 4th from bottom then AM ain't going nowhere. He is a holding action in a faustian pact with Randy that essentially ignores the needs and wants of the fans.
Randy will do nothing until he sorts his fortunes out in the US!
Meantime spend every Saturday in the depths of anticpatory misery awaiting the next last minute defeat or out and out trouncing!
We have to make do with what we've got for the duration of this season at least.
Still I can't hope for a win, and always do, and when they do I am happy! But..But But!?
It is all about money now..you could see it with ex-players during the ManCity game..They laid off us out of pity.
What a state we have ended up in eh?
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 29, 2011, 01:19:06 PM: Quote from: Shrek on October 29, 2011, 12:17:19 PM
Sky showing the stat, Villa have won only 1 of their last 8 games in all competitions.

If we dont play well today, AM out anyone?

Absolutely not a prayer.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: achilles on October 29, 2011, 01:20:12 PM: Quote from: PaulTheVillan on October 29, 2011, 12:48:37 PM
Quote from: Shrek on October 29, 2011, 12:17:19 PM
Sky showing the stat, Villa have won only 1 of their last 8 games in all competitions.

If we dont play well today, AM out anyone?

He wont get sacked

No, he won't unless it gets really, really bad (i.e. relegation)!
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on October 29, 2011, 02:05:27 PM: Team news?
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on October 29, 2011, 02:51:10 PM: VILLA: Given, Hutton, Dunne, Collins, Warnock, Petrov, Herd, Heskey, N’Zogbia, Bent, Agbonlahor.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on October 29, 2011, 02:51:42 PM: Subs: Guzan, Albrighton, Clark, Delph, Cuellar, Ireland. Delfouneso.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on October 29, 2011, 02:53:14 PM: Has VillaStreams gone for good, won't let me pay ?