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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Holte132 on October 25, 2011, 01:20:08 PM
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Not that it will give us the three points from Saturday, but it shows the fans were right all along.
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Scant consolation but herd will probably start at sunderland which will help us.
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Take that Woy, you cock end.
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A bit of good news though hardly a huge consolation.
Get him in at right back.
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bloody ludicrus, what was the lineos name, darren cant! inept twat of an excuse for a man!
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Right decision. Out of interest, what is the process for rescinding a red card? Does the FA/PL look at the evidence and decide, or does it go back to the ref to review?
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I'd like to see him again the midfield. He looked mobile and tenacious.
So much for Blakey's eyesight, the dozy old stripey twat.
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Now who do we speak to about getting our 3 points back?
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A bit of good news though hardly a huge consolation.
Get him in at right back.
He was having a good game in midfield, so I'd leave him there. If AM does decide to replace Huttom at RB I think it should be for Carlos.
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Good a bit of common sense.
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Good news. But, 1. It doesn't change the result, and 2. Explain how a penalty can be given for an off the ball incident.
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A bit of good news though hardly a huge consolation.
Get him in at right back.
He was having a good game in midfield, so I'd leave him there. If AM does decide to replace Huttom at RB I think it should be for Carlos.
100% agree if everyone fit then i go with
Given
Carlos
Collins
Dunne
Ireland
Herd
Petrov
Gabby
Bannan (unless locked up the prat)
Bent
and that is the best balanced side we have had all season
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and that is the best balanced side we have had all season
Would prefer to start with 11
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Is Warnock so bad that you reckon we would be better off without him and a man down?
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and that is the best balanced side we have had all season
Would prefer to start with 11
Warnock will be playing, but wearing a Predator style cloaking device.
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Good news. But, 1. It doesn't change the result, and 2. Explain how a penalty can be given for an off the ball incident.
2 doesn't need explaining. Ther rules are that if an offence is committed in the penalty area then a penalty shall be awarded. Just because it was "off the ball" doesn't make it any less of an offence (in the hallucenogenic world of the linesman who thought an offence had been committed)
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Right decision. Out of interest, what is the process for rescinding a red card? Does the FA/PL look at the evidence and decide, or does it go back to the ref to review?
Appeals committee considers referee's report and video evidence.
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A bit controversial this but I have sympathy for the Referee's assistant- I thought Herd had stamped on Olsen and said to by mate at the time that he was going to be sent off. From where I sat Trinity Block B3 it seemed obvious before the free kick that Olsen was winding Herd up and I could not understand why the ref's assistant had not seen Olsen push Herd away (a definate case of arms raised) to the point it looked like a punch to the shoulder. As the free kick came over it appeared that Olsen was going for a penalty by making it look as though Herd had dragged him to the ground- it then appeared as though Herd stamped ( OK I expect none of you to call me as a witness for the defence). From the camera view it did look as though Herd was trying to get his foot away from Olsens arm- however from the Trinity it looked like a stamp- two views, two different interpretations.
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Herd might be a bit innocent, but Hutton has injured a player for 6 weeks.
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Herd going off cost us , If Hutton had gone off , it wouldn't have made no diference to us .
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A bit controversial this but I have sympathy for the Referee's assistant- I thought Herd had stamped on Olsen and said to by mate at the time that he was going to be sent off. From where I sat Trinity Block B3 it seemed obvious before the free kick that Olsen was winding Herd up and I could not understand why the ref's assistant had not seen Olsen push Herd away (a definate case of arms raised) to the point it looked like a punch to the shoulder. As the free kick came over it appeared that Olsen was going for a penalty by making it look as though Herd had dragged him to the ground- it then appeared as though Herd stamped ( OK I expect none of you to call me as a witness for the defence). From the camera view it did look as though Herd was trying to get his foot away from Olsens arm- however from the Trinity it looked like a stamp- two views, two different interpretations.
Thats what I have been saying, that was my view as well. [Upper Trinity] I was watching Herd as the ball was cleard
As I have said in another thread if I had been the linesman I would have sent him of as well.
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Winning this appeal is two-fingers in the face of all the McLeish-haters who said we'd win nothing under him.
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Do you reckon Roy will have anything to say about this considering what he said after the game?
Nah, me neither.
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Warnock and Hutton are liabilities so time to give Herd and Carlos a run in the team.
Hutton in particular is a disaster waiting to happen...not only the tackle on Long, but the numerous hand ball incidents he's also been lucky to get away with. Having Carlos at RB isnt a great option by any stretch of the imagination but at least he's proved to be more reliable defensively than Hutton.
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Herds appeal was successful,but Alan Hutton was very lucky not to be sent off,now that Shane Long is off for nearly six weeks due to a knee injury ,I am sure he is very happy with himself .Villas back four troglodites kicked him off the pitch,I hope someone breaks Alans legs if there is a God,what goes around comes around .
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Herds appeal was successful,but Alan Hutton was very lucky not to be sent off,now that Shane Long is off for nearly six weeks due to a knee injury ,I am sure he is very happy with himself .Villas back four troglodites kicked him off the pitch,I hope someone breaks Alans legs if there is a God,what goes around comes around .
Do I detect some bitterness?
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A bit of good news though hardly a huge consolation.
Get him in at right back.
He was having a good game in midfield, so I'd leave him there. If AM does decide to replace Huttom at RB I think it should be for Carlos.
I'd go for that aswell.
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Herds appeal was successful,but Alan Hutton was very lucky not to be sent off,now that Shane Long is off for nearly six weeks due to a knee injury ,I am sure he is very happy with himself .Villas back four troglodites kicked him off the pitch,I hope someone breaks Alans legs if there is a God,what goes around comes around .
Ever heard of Alex Cropley?
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Herds appeal was successful,but Alan Hutton was very lucky not to be sent off,now that Shane Long is off for nearly six weeks due to a knee injury ,I am sure he is very happy with himself .Villas back four troglodites kicked him off the pitch,I hope someone breaks Alans legs if there is a God,what goes around comes around .
It already has, it's called Karma and was for Ally Brown.
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Herds appeal was successful,but Alan Hutton was very lucky not to be sent off,now that Shane Long is off for nearly six weeks due to a knee injury ,I am sure he is very happy with himself .Villas back four troglodites kicked him off the pitch,I hope someone breaks Alans legs if there is a God,what goes around comes around .
So what is your opinion of a player and a manager who lied about a stamping, and also a manager who played Long for a good 15 mins after the injury further aggrevating it and possibly causing a 6 day injury to be a 6 week layoff?
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Herds appeal was successful,but Alan Hutton was very lucky not to be sent off,now that Shane Long is off for nearly six weeks due to a knee injury ,I am sure he is very happy with himself .Villas back four troglodites kicked him off the pitch,I hope someone breaks Alans legs if there is a God,what goes around comes around .
outrageous and disgusting post-shame on you wishing such ill on any player!
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Winning this appeal is two-fingers in the face of all the McLeish-haters who said we'd win nothing under him.
Haha! Brilliant!! ;D
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Herds appeal was successful,but Alan Hutton was very lucky not to be sent off,now that Shane Long is off for nearly six weeks due to a knee injury ,I am sure he is very happy with himself .Villas back four troglodites kicked him off the pitch,I hope someone breaks Alans legs if there is a God,what goes around comes around .
outrageous and disgusting post-shame on you wishing such ill on any player!
Exactly, but what else do you expect from someone who spends their life looking like an advert for Tesco.
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Herds appeal was successful,but Alan Hutton was very lucky not to be sent off,now that Shane Long is off for nearly six weeks due to a knee injury ,I am sure he is very happy with himself .Villas back four troglodites kicked him off the pitch,I hope someone breaks Alans legs if there is a God,what goes around comes around .
It already has, it's called Karma and was for Ally Brown.
If it was for that, I would hope it would be a better player then Shane Long.
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Herds appeal was successful,but Alan Hutton was very lucky not to be sent off,now that Shane Long is off for nearly six weeks due to a knee injury ,I am sure he is very happy with himself .Villas back four troglodites kicked him off the pitch,I hope someone breaks Alans legs if there is a God,what goes around comes around .
It already has, it's called Karma and was for Ally Brown.
If it was for that, I would hope it would be a better player then Shane Long.
Do they have a better player than Shane Long?
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Good news I would play him against Sunderland on saturday I'm pleased he won his appeal that was the right decision.
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Herds appeal was successful,but Alan Hutton was very lucky not to be sent off,now that Shane Long is off for nearly six weeks due to a knee injury ,I am sure he is very happy with himself .Villas back four troglodites kicked him off the pitch,I hope someone breaks Alans legs if there is a God,what goes around comes around .
Not very good use of grammar there. That isn't what you're being banned for, by the way.
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Herds appeal was successful,but Alan Hutton was very lucky not to be sent off,now that Shane Long is off for nearly six weeks due to a knee injury ,I am sure he is very happy with himself .Villas back four troglodites kicked him off the pitch,I hope someone breaks Alans legs if there is a God,what goes around comes around .
Also before you go too far off the deep end remember the ref gave a throw
outrageous and disgusting post-shame on you wishing such ill on any player!
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Good news. But, 1. It doesn't change the result, and 2. Explain how a penalty can be given for an off the ball incident.
2 doesn't need explaining. Ther rules are that if an offence is committed in the penalty area then a penalty shall be awarded. Just because it was "off the ball" doesn't make it any less of an offence (in the hallucenogenic world of the linesman who thought an offence had been committed)
It is not a consistent rule. If so why didn’t Peter Walton give a Penalty for Joey Barton’s foul on Gervinho in the Newcastle v Arsenal match in August? Gervinho dived in the Newcastle penalty box, but the ref allowed play to continue. Then Barton yanked Gervinho to his feet. The game was stopped for this action, but then a melee started. Barton was eventually awarded a yellow card and Gervinho was sent off for his retaliation, but the initial stoppage was for Barton's actions. The incident was off the ball in the penalty box while the ball was in play, just like the Herd incident.
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Herds appeal was successful,but Alan Hutton was very lucky not to be sent off,now that Shane Long is off for nearly six weeks due to a knee injury ,I am sure he is very happy with himself .Villas back four troglodites kicked him off the pitch,I hope someone breaks Alans legs if there is a God,what goes around comes around .
Two words - Alex Cropley - now go away, moron.
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hopefully he plays the defensive midfielder postion , in diamond formation with deph, petrov and ireland being other players in midfield
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Awww!
Can't we keep him?
He sounds like he has some real potential to make a complete fool of himself.
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A bit controversial this but I have sympathy for the Referee's assistant- I thought Herd had stamped on Olsen and said to by mate at the time that he was going to be sent off. From where I sat Trinity Block B3 it seemed obvious before the free kick that Olsen was winding Herd up and I could not understand why the ref's assistant had not seen Olsen push Herd away (a definate case of arms raised) to the point it looked like a punch to the shoulder. As the free kick came over it appeared that Olsen was going for a penalty by making it look as though Herd had dragged him to the ground- it then appeared as though Herd stamped ( OK I expect none of you to call me as a witness for the defence). From the camera view it did look as though Herd was trying to get his foot away from Olsens arm- however from the Trinity it looked like a stamp- two views, two different interpretations.
another one that was seeing things! I dont know how you can see what didnt ever happen????
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and that is the best balanced side we have had all season
Would prefer to start with 11
Warnock will be playing, but wearing a Predator style cloaking device.
No gimp mask this week ??
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Alex fucking Cropley, wankstain.
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Good news. But, 1. It doesn't change the result, and 2. Explain how a penalty can be given for an off the ball incident.
It's a direct free kick for a foul and in 18 yard box it means a penalty.
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Alex fucking Cropley, wankstain.
and from me
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I agree that Huttons tackle deserved a red card but it didnt look intentional and obviously Herds card had to be rescinded. To be honest im not that worried about Hutton or Warnock in defense, Im more worried about central midfield and the lack of creativity.
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Actually I would play Hutton at Cindyland. I would get him to man mark Cattermole and sell the rights to Home Box Office.
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Positive news..
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A bit controversial this but I have sympathy for the Referee's assistant- I thought Herd had stamped on Olsen and said to by mate at the time that he was going to be sent off. From where I sat Trinity Block B3 it seemed obvious before the free kick that Olsen was winding Herd up and I could not understand why the ref's assistant had not seen Olsen push Herd away (a definate case of arms raised) to the point it looked like a punch to the shoulder. As the free kick came over it appeared that Olsen was going for a penalty by making it look as though Herd had dragged him to the ground- it then appeared as though Herd stamped ( OK I expect none of you to call me as a witness for the defence). From the camera view it did look as though Herd was trying to get his foot away from Olsens arm- however from the Trinity it looked like a stamp- two views, two different interpretations.
Thats what I have been saying, that was my view as well. [Upper Trinity] I was watching Herd as the ball was cleard
As I have said in another thread if I had been the linesman I would have sent him of as well.
We were sat in the Middle Trinity, B4, and we saw it exactly as it was. Olsen had hold of Herd's foot. We thought the linesman had flagged for a free kick to us and were completely shocked when the penalty was given and Herd was sent oFf.
If I had been the linesman the free kick would have been ours.
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Good news. But, 1. It doesn't change the result, and 2. Explain how a penalty can be given for an off the ball incident.
2 doesn't need explaining. Ther rules are that if an offence is committed in the penalty area then a penalty shall be awarded. Just because it was "off the ball" doesn't make it any less of an offence (in the hallucenogenic world of the linesman who thought an offence had been committed)
It is not a consistent rule. If so why didn’t Peter Walton give a Penalty for Joey Barton’s foul on Gervinho in the Newcastle v Arsenal match in August? Gervinho dived in the Newcastle penalty box, but the ref allowed play to continue. Then Barton yanked Gervinho to his feet. The game was stopped for this action, but then a melee started. Barton was eventually awarded a yellow card and Gervinho was sent off for his retaliation, but the initial stoppage was for Barton's actions. The incident was off the ball in the penalty box while the ball was in play, just like the Herd incident.
Dont ask me how the minds of referees work - I'm just telling you what the laws of the game state. How the refs and linesmen choose to interpret them is anyones guess. You seemed to be under the impression that if something happens "off the ball" it doesn't count as a foul but that is clearly wrong. All of the pushing and holding that goes on before a corner and free kick is fouling and the ref is well within their rights to give a foul and even award a penalty. I wish the refs would start doing that - it'd cut that sillyness out almost overnight.
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Herds appeal was successful,but Alan Hutton was very lucky not to be sent off,now that Shane Long is off for nearly six weeks due to a knee injury ,I am sure he is very happy with himself .Villas back four troglodites kicked him off the pitch,I hope someone breaks Alans legs if there is a God,what goes around comes around .
Not very good use of grammar there. That isn't what you're being banned for, by the way.
Dave, I think you are bang out of order banning him. I like to see that type of poster played with and tormented before we get bored with them...
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no-brainer. i'd have been staggered if any other decision was reached to be honest.
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any news on Olsson's opinion following the rescinding of the red card?
ie he knows what he was doing by holding onto Herd's leg.....mmm...thought not
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Good news. But, 1. It doesn't change the result, and 2. Explain how a penalty can be given for an off the ball incident.
2 doesn't need explaining. Ther rules are that if an offence is committed in the penalty area then a penalty shall be awarded. Just because it was "off the ball" doesn't make it any less of an offence (in the hallucenogenic world of the linesman who thought an offence had been committed)
It is not a consistent rule. If so why didn’t Peter Walton give a Penalty for Joey Barton’s foul on Gervinho in the Newcastle v Arsenal match in August? Gervinho dived in the Newcastle penalty box, but the ref allowed play to continue. Then Barton yanked Gervinho to his feet. The game was stopped for this action, but then a melee started. Barton was eventually awarded a yellow card and Gervinho was sent off for his retaliation, but the initial stoppage was for Barton's actions. The incident was off the ball in the penalty box while the ball was in play, just like the Herd incident.
Dont ask me how the minds of referees work - I'm just telling you what the laws of the game state. How the refs and linesmen choose to interpret them is anyones guess. You seemed to be under the impression that if something happens "off the ball" it doesn't count as a foul but that is clearly wrong. All of the pushing and holding that goes on before a corner and free kick is fouling and the ref is well within their rights to give a foul and even award a penalty. I wish the refs would start doing that - it'd cut that sillyness out almost overnight.
Could not agree more: when players like Angel and Gabby have to build up upper body strength so that they can compete in the all in wrestling that is the Premiership dead ball into the area, you have to wonder where will it end.
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Good news. But, 1. It doesn't change the result, and 2. Explain how a penalty can be given for an off the ball incident.
2 doesn't need explaining. Ther rules are that if an offence is committed in the penalty area then a penalty shall be awarded. Just because it was "off the ball" doesn't make it any less of an offence (in the hallucenogenic world of the linesman who thought an offence had been committed)
It is not a consistent rule. If so why didn’t Peter Walton give a Penalty for Joey Barton’s foul on Gervinho in the Newcastle v Arsenal match in August? Gervinho dived in the Newcastle penalty box, but the ref allowed play to continue. Then Barton yanked Gervinho to his feet. The game was stopped for this action, but then a melee started. Barton was eventually awarded a yellow card and Gervinho was sent off for his retaliation, but the initial stoppage was for Barton's actions. The incident was off the ball in the penalty box while the ball was in play, just like the Herd incident.
Dont ask me how the minds of referees work - I'm just telling you what the laws of the game state. How the refs and linesmen choose to interpret them is anyones guess. You seemed to be under the impression that if something happens "off the ball" it doesn't count as a foul but that is clearly wrong. All of the pushing and holding that goes on before a corner and free kick is fouling and the ref is well within their rights to give a foul and even award a penalty. I wish the refs would start doing that - it'd cut that sillyness out almost overnight.
Could not agree more: when players like Angel and Gabby have to build up upper body strength so that they can compete in the all in wrestling that is the Premiership dead ball into the area, you have to wonder where will it end.
Me too. Stoke would be playing with 7 men every week if the rules were applied properly.
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Not being funny but...Herd gets his red card rescinded which is an open acknowledgement that the assistant referee was wrong.
But in this day and age, with so much money riding on final league positions should there not be recourse for getting the game replayed?
We lost up to three points based on that ridiculous decision and we just have to accept it even though the decision-makers bosses ruled they were wrong.
At the very least, the assistant and Dowd should be made run 20 laps around Villa Park naked while Sister Assumpta from Father Ted whips them with a shitty stick.
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Not being funny but...Herd gets his red card rescinded which is an open acknowledgement that the assistant referee was wrong.
But in this day and age, with so much money riding on final league positions should there not be recourse for getting the game replayed?
The scary thing is - how long until some club demands just that?
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Not being funny but...Herd gets his red card rescinded which is an open acknowledgement that the assistant referee was wrong.
But in this day and age, with so much money riding on final league positions should there not be recourse for getting the game replayed?
We lost up to three points based on that ridiculous decision and we just have to accept it even though the decision-makers bosses ruled they were wrong.
At the very least, the assistant and Dowd should be made run 20 laps around Villa Park naked while Sister Assumpta from Father Ted whips them with a shitty stick.
I dont think we lost the points based on that decision. Rather than castigate the referee, who got more than one decision wrong at the weekend, perhaps we should be more concerned at the piss poor reactions and performance of our players, and perhaps manager too, after the sending off. The spineless display upset and shocked me much more than the sending off.
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Not being funny but...Herd gets his red card rescinded which is an open acknowledgement that the assistant referee was wrong.
But in this day and age, with so much money riding on final league positions should there not be recourse for getting the game replayed?
So how far do you go with that?
Let's say Herd hadn't been sent off and we had gone on to win the game - should Albion have recourse for the game being replayed because Hutton wasn't sent off?
How about a marginal offside decision? A foul that would have led to a penalty which may or may not have been scored?
So no, there shouldn't be any recourse to have the game replayed at all.
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I'm waiting for a club to sue a referee for loss of income due to a wrong decision.
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Not being funny but...Herd gets his red card rescinded which is an open acknowledgement that the assistant referee was wrong.
But in this day and age, with so much money riding on final league positions should there not be recourse for getting the game replayed?
We lost up to three points based on that ridiculous decision and we just have to accept it even though the decision-makers bosses ruled they were wrong.
At the very least, the assistant and Dowd should be made run 20 laps around Villa Park naked while Sister Assumpta from Father Ted whips them with a shitty stick.
I dont think we lost the points based on that decision. Rather than castigate the referee, who got more than one decision wrong at the weekend, perhaps we should be more concerned at the piss poor reactions and performance of our players, and perhaps manager too, after the sending off. The spineless display upset and shocked me much more than the sending off.
would you have been more pissed off with champions league finalists concession of 5 in 40 minutes?
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Not being funny but...Herd gets his red card rescinded which is an open acknowledgement that the assistant referee was wrong.
But in this day and age, with so much money riding on final league positions should there not be recourse for getting the game replayed?
The scary thing is - how long until some club demands just that?
Probably Liverpool
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Not being funny but...Herd gets his red card rescinded which is an open acknowledgement that the assistant referee was wrong.
But in this day and age, with so much money riding on final league positions should there not be recourse for getting the game replayed?
We lost up to three points based on that ridiculous decision and we just have to accept it even though the decision-makers bosses ruled they were wrong.
At the very least, the assistant and Dowd should be made run 20 laps around Villa Park naked while Sister Assumpta from Father Ted whips them with a shitty stick.
I dont think we lost the points based on that decision. Rather than castigate the referee, who got more than one decision wrong at the weekend, perhaps we should be more concerned at the piss poor reactions and performance of our players, and perhaps manager too, after the sending off. The spineless display upset and shocked me much more than the sending off.
would you have been more pissed off with champions league finalists concession of 5 in 40 minutes?
Well, that's beside the point for a few reasons. The first being that we were in the lead when Herd was sent off, so had a lead to defend. Also, Manchester City are far and away better than West Brom. Thirdly, I couldn't give a flying fuck about Manchester United.
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Not being funny but...Herd gets his red card rescinded which is an open acknowledgement that the assistant referee was wrong.
But in this day and age, with so much money riding on final league positions should there not be recourse for getting the game replayed?
So how far do you go with that?
Let's say Herd hadn't been sent off and we had gone on to win the game - should Albion have recourse for the game being replayed because Hutton wasn't sent off?
How about a marginal offside decision? A foul that would have led to a penalty which may or may not have been scored?
So no, there shouldn't be any recourse to have the game replayed at all.
Sorry, I should have been clearer.
My preference would be for the introduction of a video referee along with goal line technology.
It just strikes me as peculiar that in this day and age with all the money involved in the game a club just accepts a costly wrong decision and that's the end of it.
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They'll accept a costly defensive error or a striker missing an open-goal.
I don't see why a referee's mistake is that different. It was annoying that we lost with a large part of it being down to bad officiating, but that's life.
At some point we'll benefit from a bad decision in our favour and we'll get on with thing in that situation as well.
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entering the realms of 2nd sight really. Say they had video appeals on the spot for bookings , you could probably guarantee Herd would have stayed on, but would we have been guaranteed to win or draw? Hutton could have gone off if the ref had a 2nd chance to see it. Again, who knows if we would have played better with Hutton off and Herd on? First thing AM may have done was take Herd off to re-organise things if Hutton had got a red - Probably bringing on Ivanhoe to play in defence :0)
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The officials got the decision wrong, we all knew that at the time and have now had it confirmed. But we shouldn't be crying about like little school girls, or Liverpool fans, nearly a week after.
It's gone. Lets just concentrate on beating Sunderland.
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I wouldn't want any games replayed. West Brom would win by more next time
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I wrote an article for H&V a few years ago about what should be done with refs, my opinion then was that nothing should be done and that the system works relatively ok.
My view now has not changed much, I am in favour of goal line technology, but that its it. Everything else should be left alone.
I think we can spend allot of time and effort castigating refs / linespeople [PC or what] when we should be focusing on the players and managers....
Thier are 22 players on the pitch who are all trying to some degeee or another to bend / break the rules, pulling shirts, pushing and shoving, out and out cheating by diving or clutching the face when the ball hit there leg! and generally trying to influence the ref by winging onto him all through the game.
Then there are the managers pre and post match comments and complaints not to mention us the fans who all try to influence the desition to go our way [how many throws etc... have we screamed for knowing all to well that its not ours!]
So I think that all in all the officials do a pretty good job of it, yes they make mistakes but thats part of what makes football unpredictable and exciting
Just my view
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Not being funny but...Herd gets his red card rescinded which is an open acknowledgement that the assistant referee was wrong.
But in this day and age, with so much money riding on final league positions should there not be recourse for getting the game replayed?
We lost up to three points based on that ridiculous decision and we just have to accept it even though the decision-makers bosses ruled they were wrong.
At the very least, the assistant and Dowd should be made run 20 laps around Villa Park naked while Sister Assumpta from Father Ted whips them with a shitty stick.
I dont think we lost the points based on that decision. Rather than castigate the referee, who got more than one decision wrong at the weekend, perhaps we should be more concerned at the piss poor reactions and performance of our players, and perhaps manager too, after the sending off. The spineless display upset and shocked me much more than the sending off.
Spot on there mate
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Not being funny but...Herd gets his red card rescinded which is an open acknowledgement that the assistant referee was wrong.
But in this day and age, with so much money riding on final league positions should there not be recourse for getting the game replayed?
We lost up to three points based on that ridiculous decision and we just have to accept it even though the decision-makers bosses ruled they were wrong.
At the very least, the assistant and Dowd should be made run 20 laps around Villa Park naked while Sister Assumpta from Father Ted whips them with a shitty stick.
I dont think we lost the points based on that decision. Rather than castigate the referee, who got more than one decision wrong at the weekend, perhaps we should be more concerned at the piss poor reactions and performance of our players, and perhaps manager too, after the sending off. The spineless display upset and shocked me much more than the sending off.
Spot on there mate
Seconded. The players clearly believed the decision to be unjust, but instead of reacting to it they simply folded. How many times have you seen 10 men outplay 11? In fact only 24 hours after the West Brom debacle I watched a 10 men Ajax tear Feyenoord a new arsehole for nearly 40 minutes in the derby.
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They'll accept a costly defensive error or a striker missing an open-goal.
I don't see why a referee's mistake is that different. It was annoying that we lost with a large part of it being down to bad officiating, but that's life.
Agreed.
For some reason I'm reminded of the story I think Ian St John used to tell about when he was fouled from behind in the box, only to recover his footing and blaze over the bar, he turned to the ref to appeal for a penalty only to be told.
'If you cant score from six yards son, you've got no chance from twelve'