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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on October 21, 2011, 07:24:03 PM
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Available Saturday afternoon.
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Afternoon gents.
Aston Villa: Given; Hutton, Collins, Dunne, Warnock; Herd, Petrov, Bannan, N'Zogbia; Bent, Agbonlahor. Subs: Guzan, Ireland, Albrighton, Delfouneso, Heskey, Clark, Cuellar.
West Brom: Foster; Reid, McAuley, Olsson, Jones; Brunt, Mulumbu, Scharner, Thomas; Odemwingie, Long. Subs: Fulop, Tchoyi, Morrison, Shorey, Gera, Dawson, Cox.
Let's get stuck into these lot and come away with three points.
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Herd starts? interesting. Come on you Villa boys.
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Herd in centre mid possibly? a 4-2-3-1 with Gabby and Nzogbia wide, Bannan in behind Bent. Hopefully anyway.
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I quite like that team. Hopefully, his place means that N'Zog has impressed in training.
I take it Delph is injured rather than completely dropped.
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I sense the influence of Kevin MacDonald with the selection of Herd. Hopefully KMac's influence will see us passing the ball too.
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Interesting selection. No Heskey THANK FUCK.
Come on me babbies!!!
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Any streams chaps?
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any streams available as villastreams seems to have done away with the paypal option.
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That team has potentially got a good balance to it as it can work as a 4231, 433 or as a 442 with Gabby drifting wide to the side of the other side of the pitch compared to Nzogbia.
HUGE game for Herd though as there is no obvious replacement on the bench.
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http://mylivestreams.eu/channel1.php
Only stream I can find
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huge game for nzogbia this.
both teams going with two up front but neither team has a midfielder capable of getting hold of the ball. id expect a lot of ball hit direct to the frontmen by both teams.
good luck to chris herd in midfield. definitely mobile and combative enough anyway
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neither team has a midfielder capable of getting hold of the ball.
Mulumbu is one of their best players and he is more or less in the team to do nothing but the above.
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Herd's definately the type of player you want in a local derby. He certainly knows how to mix it up. Just hope he doesn't go over the top and get himself sent off.
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The commentator on Setanta is a complete tool. That is all.
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Good remark on commentary there; "Collins is the guilty party, whether he actually handled the ball or not."
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Shocking miss Bent.
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Dreadful miss by Bent.
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Afternoon chaps, hows it going?
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Unlucky Baz, good effort.
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Hmm. My Villastreams link has died. Anyone else got the same issue?
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Yep same issue here
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Same issue with VStreams.
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Hmm. My Villastreams link has died. Anyone else got the same issue?
Yep, can still see the other games, just The Villa one gone.
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Any other streams?
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Me too.
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Mine gone too.
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Right, cheers gents. Bit of a bugger, then.
Any other working links around?
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Its on channel 8 too (lower quality)
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http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/87364/1/watch-aston-villa-vs-west-bromwich.html
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I am using this one, stick as feck though.
http://mylivestreams.eu/channel1.php
Just having problems logging into liveonlinefotty
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http://www8.livetv.ru/webplayer2.php?t=wiicast&c=dfgfgdfgdfgfg&d=www.sportlemon.tv&lang=en&eid=92029&lid=3621&ci=1&si=1
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Should have walked then Hutton.
Incredibly lucky.
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Its on channel 8 too (lower quality)
Thanks!
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Should have walked then Hutton.
Incredibly lucky.
Just seen a replay, lucky he never broke his leg
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Hutton is shit but that was a foul on him and they took the free kick about 10 yards from the incident but what do you expect from Dowd the c***
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Herd's playing nicely.
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red card?
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Penalty! Come on!
Also, cheers for the links!
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Get in!!!
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Get in....
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GET IN!!!!!
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Sweet! Good penalty from Bent, that!
Good start.
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That was a shocking decision but thanks Dowd you c***
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What has happened to Dowd, should have sent Hutton off then gives us a dodgy penalty
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What a great pen from Bent.
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Benty
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Got my liveonlinefootiw working now, not bad for £6 for 2 months
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That was a shocking decision but thanks Dowd you c***
Why?
Gabby nicked the ball past Foster and was brought down.
Makes sense to me.
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brilliant start..keep it up!
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http://www.livefootballol.com/streaming/epl/week-9-aston-villa-west-brom-22-10-2011.html
this is ok
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We are looking fragile.
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Gabby toed the ball and got wiped out, not sure there's too much dodgy about that.
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Please dont sit back, please. They are shit at the back.
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Bannan took the last one didn't he? Obviously doesn't fancy them
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Bannan took the last one didn't he? Obviously doesn't fancy them
Only because Bent wasn't playing. Bent is our normal penalty taker.
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That was a shocking decision but thanks Dowd you c***
Why?
Gabby nicked the ball past Foster and was brought down.
Makes sense to me.
Where exactly could Foster have gone to avoid him? Anyway I'll take it. Let us not argue among oneselves.
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That was a shocking decision but thanks Dowd you c***
Why?
Gabby nicked the ball past Foster and was brought down.
Makes sense to me.
Where exactly could Foster have gone to avoid him?
That's not Gabby's problem. It was a foul in the box. Nothing more to it than that.
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a win here would be just what we need, we aint got a chance of beating the top 5 or six so we need to get our points off those around us. Pretty bloody obvious really
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Herd is having a cracker. Keeping it very tidy.
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I am trying to decide if I should have a beer or not.
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I am trying to decide if I should have a beer or not.
You probably should. I am.
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I am ranting enough as it is
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Why is Petrov continuing to take shit corners. He hasn't taken a decent one yet since he started taking them.
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I am trying to decide if I should have a beer or not.
I think you should.
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I am trying to decide if I should have a beer or not.
You probably should. I am.
I will then, what you having?
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Just heard the commentator say that Petrov was good at taking a corner. Petrov just stuffed it up after :)
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Why is Petrov continuing to take shit corners. He hasn't taken a decent one yet since he started taking them.
It does seem odd when Bannan is in the side.
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I can't, I'm working.
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I am ranting enough as it is
No, that's just the sobriety talking! You can always rant more!
West Brom starting to get on top here, I'd say.
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What the....??!
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Heard sent off? fuck me
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WTF is going on?
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Huh???
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WTF ?
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WHAT THE FUCK?????????????????????????????????????
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Wtf
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What the fuck was that red card for?
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What the fuck is that about? That's absolutely absurd.
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hmmmm
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Ha! The twat missed!
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Ha Ha. Justice.
That's one red card that'll be rescinded.
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JUSTICE! What a disgrace of a lino and ref.
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I don't understand what the red is for?
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What the fuck was heard sent off for?
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Brunt you wanker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ha hahahhahahaha!!
But still, we're up against it and no mistake now. That is incompetemt refereeing the like of which I don't think I have ever seen before.
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WTF - Someone please explain to me the reason for the red card.
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drop gabby back to midfield
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That Dowd is a right fucking wanker
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Shay Given, you angel. Great save.
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Dowd doesn't like Villa, does he?
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There's no justice here, we're now under the pump for an hour. That is genuinely one of the worst decisions I've ever seen.
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To be fair to Dowd, he's just reacting to what the linesman told him.
It's the linesman's colossal fuck-up.
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Ok, they replayed it there and he clipped someone in the box, so a penalty was probably deserved, but he in no way denied a clear goalscoring opportunity. The red is utterly undeserved.
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Dowd doesn't like Villa, does he?
In fairness, it was the twat with the flag but why the fuck a red card? Dowd really is a twat.
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That Dowd is a right fucking wanker
It was the lino, Dowd is still a fucking wanker though.
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I wonder if someone in the far east with a bit of money has been betting on this game?
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There are some woeful refs in the league these days. Dowd, Halsey and the pillock we had against QPR being prime examples.
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WTF - Someone please explain to me the reason for the red card.
The replays APPEAR to show Herd lashing out with his boot at Olsen before the ball is cleared, a good five or six seconds before the incident we THOUGHT led to the penalty.
The replay looks inconclusive to me. The linesman saw it, and if he did lash out, it's a red card, unfortunately.
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Good to see Cuellar back in the action, and displaying some 'mad skills', too.
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For fucks' sake.
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Fuck.
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******.
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Fuckin typical.
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Shit defending, where was the challenge?
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Bollocks.
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shite!
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From th Beeb:
Right, I've seen a couple of replays but it is still not immediately obvious what has happened. Chris Herd does tangle with Jonas Olsson as the run in for Chris Brunt's (blocked) free-kick but it is never a red card, not in a million years, even when they tangle as theyget up afterwards. It's a pretty soft penalty too, so perhaps justice is done when Chris Brunt steps up to wildly blast his spot-kick well wide of goal. Think Chris Waddle in Italia 90, but worse.
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Bollox! Both Dunne and Collins got owned there. Very poor defending.
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We are fucked now as well, no chance in this game. The worst red car decision ever, fucking unbelievable.
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Ah, shite.
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Shit defending, where was the challenge?
Herd was the one who was marking him previously. But the referee saw fit to send him from the field of play.
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oh bollox..why do we do it? 10 men in a Derby!!?? bollo
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Right before half time too.
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Lady Luck shitting all over the villa. Nothing new there.
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Just offside.
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Just offside.
And it really was just.
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Let's take off Zoggy and bring on Clark, restoring some balance.
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oh bollox..why do we do it? 10 men in a Derby!!?? bollo
Well it was the worst red card ever.
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Tricky old half time coming up for McLeish.
I think I'd take N'Zogbia off and put in Clark to take up Herd's role.
Baffling stuff, and it's ruined the game.
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Just got in. Sounds like I've missed us being robbed so far.
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radio wm saying herd sent off for attempted stamping.
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We'd be doing well to draw this now. Siege mentality needed I fear. Hopefully Gabby's pace and Bent's finishing might nab us all three points.
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Well they beat us with 10 men we'll just have to do the same
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The game has been decided by a series of awfull decisions,
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Regarding the penalty, Ollson didn't even appeal for the penalty. It was just a tangle and a pathetic decision by the linesman and an even worse one by Dowd.
Before that, I thought we looked comfortable.
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I bet he (wanker dowd) would not have sent rooney off..
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I want Dowd's head on a fucking plate.
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So we are now level due to the ineptitude of the referee and his even more stupid sidekick with a flag in his hand. What a disgrace. If Herd had kicked out at Olsson, he would have been rolling over the floor.
Football is shit, to add a continuous sense of injustice to much of it only serves to make it more unpalatable these days. Had enough of the whole charade.
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Right folks, just tuned in as West Brom scored (bad timing or what!).
We got a pen and Bent scored,
They get a pen and miss and Herd sent off for inexplicable reason then they manage an equaliser. Have I missed anything else?
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Very precarious next 45 this, we could get easily overrun, we should reshape the front either take N'zog of or Bent and bring Gabby into the middle, he's our only real threat up front anyway (by the way what a footy brain Gabby has on him winning that penalty, absolute magic).
We need to bring Clark into the midfield and hopefully spring them for another goal on the counter, otherwise I fear WBA will fancy this.
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Absolutely no doubt that we should be down to 10 men.
Hutton's "tackle" was a disgrace and Shane Long is very lucky not to have a broken leg and a year out of the game.
It is though the most unfathomable awarding of a penalty and sending off I have ever seen. Did the linesman not wonder why Olsson showed no reaction whatsoever to the coming together?
Can't see us holding out or scoring again now.
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I guess this is how cheated the Welsh felt during the rugby world cup! What did Herd do??!!
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We still have more quality but need to be clinical.
My need to take N'Zogbia out and put on the defend midfield like Clark to control the ball and play Gabby with Bent up front.
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So we are now level due to the ineptitude of the referee and his even more stupid sidekick with a flag in his hand. What a disgrace. If Herd had kicked out at Olsson, he would have been rolling over the floor.
Football is shit, to add a continuous sense of injustice to much of it only serves to make it more unpalatable these days. Had enough of the whole charade.
Agree. I really struggle to enjoy it any more.
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Absolutely no doubt that we should be down to 10 men.
Hutton's "tackle" was a disgrace and Shane Long is very lucky not to have a broken leg and a year out of the game.
It is though the most unfathomable awarding of a penalty and sending off I have ever seen. Didn't the linesman not wonder why Olson showed no reaction whatsoever to the coming together?
Can't see us holding out or scoring again now.
Didn't Herd do a bit of afters on Olson in the box just before the penalty incident..............
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So we are now level due to the ineptitude of the referee and his even more stupid sidekick with a flag in his hand. What a disgrace. If Herd had kicked out at Olsson, he would have been rolling over the floor.
Football is shit, to add a continuous sense of injustice to much of it only serves to make it more unpalatable these days. Had enough of the whole charade.
That's kind of nailed the way I feel.
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linesman shouldnt ever get an EPL game again. How can someone get a decision that wrong?
Thought we were playing some decent stuff up to then and should have been 2 goals up. Herd and Bannan were combining well and Gabby had Reid in trouble.
Cuellar is back from a long lay off but I dont think he can be any worse than Hutton who was diabolical yet again and if a West Brom player committed that karate kick on a Villa player, we would be screaming for red. Disappointing to concede a set piece. Super delivery but both our centre halves were beaten to the jump.
Nzogbia has been disappointing again as has Bent. Id go with Nzogbia for the hook. Clark to come in. Bent might sneak the winner.
The half could be the making or breaking of us this season. Come on Villa.
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I think N'zogbia's been poor anyway, can't believe Ireland didn't start.
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Fuck right off, Dowd you ******.
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They are replaying it time and time again. They can zoom into the point where you see the goose bumps on Herd's arm, but you still won't see a penalty. An utter joke of a decision.
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oh bollox..why do we do it? 10 men in a Derby!!?? bollo
Well it was the worst red card ever.
Someone said Herd was a liability to himself earlier..sad as did not do anything much to get card! Villa luck??
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I think N'zogbia's been poor anyway, can't believe Ireland didn't start.
Agree, N'Zogbia a myth to me, and Bent is really struggling to deal with his marker, he's having to come very deep to shake him.
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How that rotund twat is fit to referee is beyond me. I swear these officials make it up as they go along. Disgraceful. Between him and his sidekick with the flag they have ruined this game.
Phat Dowd costs us yet again the bloke is useless.
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lets hope Dowd decides to equal it up Scharner the most likely culprit.
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oh bollox..why do we do it? 10 men in a Derby!!?? bollo
Well it was the worst red card ever.
Someone said Herd was a liability to himself earlier..sad as did not do anything much to get card! Villa luck??
I hardly think we can claim continuous bad luck as Hutton didn't get sent off.
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come on lads less of the whining. As others have said Hutton should have gone anyway. There isnt a law to say 10 men cant win a game so lets see how the second half plays out. Would be a great one to win now.
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How that rotund twat is fit to referee is beyond me. I swear these officials make it up as they go along. Disgraceful. Between him and his sidekick with the flag they have ruined this game.
Phat Dowd costs us yet again the bloke is useless.
but if the linesman says he stamped on him, Dowd has no option but to send the player of and award a pen, whether he's seen it or not.
its the linesmans fault not Dowd's
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come on lads less of the whining. As others have said Hutton should have gone anyway. There isnt a law to say 10 men cant win a game so lets see how the second half plays out. Would be a great one to win now.
How many times do you see 10 play better than 11.............
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oh bollox..why do we do it? 10 men in a Derby!!?? bollo
Well it was the worst red card ever.
Someone said Herd was a liability to himself earlier..sad as did not do anything much to get card! Villa luck??
Page 1 on this thread, second last post.
Can't blame Herd though. He'd been super cool and composed, certainly convincing me he could make that role his own.
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They beat us with 10 last season.
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How that rotund twat is fit to referee is beyond me. I swear these officials make it up as they go along. Disgraceful. Between him and his sidekick with the flag they have ruined this game.
Phat Dowd costs us yet again the bloke is useless.
but if the linesman says he stamped on him, Dowd has no option but to send the player of and award a pen, whether he's seen it or not.
its the linesmans fault not Dowd's
Could be wrong but i got the distinct impression that Herd did leave his boot in on the Albion player, was that enough though.
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Let's rise above this shit and stuff the twats.
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It looked to me like the guy pulled on his foot and he tried to shake himself loose. You see stuff like that all the time in rugby and it looks very familiar.
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I'm concerned that we still can't hold onto the ball. And we'll need to now.
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Has Brunt borrowed Beckhams boots?
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How that rotund twat is fit to referee is beyond me. I swear these officials make it up as they go along. Disgraceful. Between him and his sidekick with the flag they have ruined this game.
Phat Dowd costs us yet again the bloke is useless.
but if the linesman says he stamped on him, Dowd has no option but to send the player of and award a pen, whether he's seen it or not.
its the linesmans fault not Dowd's
Could be wrong but i got the distinct impression that Herd did leave his boot in on the Albion player, was that enough though.
Considering the fact that pretty much every pundit has said that it is a baffling decision after watching numerous replays I'm guessing no.
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May be claret tinted glasses on my part but it looked like his foot was tangled with Olsson and he just pulled it out, the linesman was on the other side so it may have looked like he stamped on him, I think it was a bad decision.
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May be claret tinted glasses on my part but it looked like his foot was tangled with Olsson and he just pulled it out, the linesman was on the other side so it may have looked like he stamped on him, I think it was a bad decision.
thats exactly how i see it
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Nothing has been said about Olsson grabbing a fist full of Heards shirt
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May be claret tinted glasses on my part but it looked like his foot was tangled with Olsson and he just pulled it out, the linesman was on the other side so it may have looked like he stamped on him, I think it was a bad decision.
That's what I think happened, although I think the 'bad' is a generous description.
I'd say McLeish is taking a bit of a risk here, not changing things around a bit. I hope he's not trying too hard to shed that 'negative' reputation - Alex, we'll be fine about getting a draw out of this one!
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I think the fact Olsson stood up and was jogging next to Herd after the incident was a huge fucking clue that Herd didn't do anything. Olsson doesn't shy away from confrontation and I have no doubt if Herd had gone for a stomp, Olsson woulda reacted in some way, not jogged next to him.
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May be claret tinted glasses on my part but it looked like his foot was tangled with Olsson and he just pulled it out, the linesman was on the other side so it may have looked like he stamped on him, I think it was a bad decision.
That's what I think happened, although I think the 'bad' is a generous description.
I'd say McLeish is taking a bit of a risk here, not changing things around a bit. I hope he's not trying too hard to shed that 'negative' reputation - Alex, we'll be fine about getting a draw out of this one!
Can you see us being composed enough to play for a draw? We will be shitting it as it is.
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It's a horrible thing to admit, but they are much better at playing, and retaining, the ball than us. It could cost us.
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Olsson wins a header again, we need to defend set pieces better.
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I'd bring bent off stick gabby up top stick another midfielder on. Say it quietly but could heskey be of use?
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Fuck off. Set fucking piece.
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Ah shit
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FUCK and FUCK and FUCK
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Oh fuck off.
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Fuck
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It was waiting to happen. We have to face up to some uncomfortable truths today.
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Not entirely unexpected.
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Game over.
I know we are down to 10 men, but both goals have been woeful defending.
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I'd bring bent off stick gabby up top stick another midfielder on. Say it quietly but could heskey be of use?
Heskey is no use, we need someone to score...
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4 goals in 2 games conceded from corners now. Got to sort that out.
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Well. There we are. We're still shit at defending from set pieces.
What a shitty afternoon.
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Another goal from a fucking corner. Sort it FFS!
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When Mat LeCunt cheers loudly you know West Brom have scored. He really doesn't like us.
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Big Emule coming on. we are indeed fucked
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I'd bring bent off stick gabby up top stick another midfielder on. Say it quietly but could heskey be of use?
Heskey is no use, we need someone to score...
Well we do now...
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All the stick Houllier took for set pieces, and with a much better defensively minded manager we are..... shit at set pieces.
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Hate to say it, but N'Zogbia has looked a huge waste of money so far.
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Indeed. At some point, the players really are going to have to take some of the responsibility.
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Don't worry, Ivanhoe Beckenbauer's on.
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4 goals in 2 games conceded from corners now. Got to sort that out.
Losing to a fucking shite team like West Brom. Fuck me is Lerner trying to ruin this club because he's doing a sterling job.
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Ten men or not, they're pissing all over us.
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Well McLeish said he would drop defenders if they can't defend set pieces... We'll see
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fucking hell, we are so disorganised
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Long afternoon again I'm afraid.
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Well McLeish said he would drop defenders if they can't defend set pieces... We'll see
Dunne and Collins just aren't that good. No doubt they'll start bitching about the manager and his methods soon enough.
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This is just so fucking one sided now
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We don't look like we're going to get back in this.
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Well McLeish said he would drop defenders if they can't defend set pieces... We'll see
He was supposed to sort the defenders out, fucking wankers
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Need to score and you bring Heskey on. Stupid ginger twat.
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We don't look like we're going to get back in this.
We are looking like a beaten team, I just hope we don't get a proper spanking
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If you don't have the ball you can't attack, and we are just useless at possession retention. It looked quite good when Herd was on, now it's just all gone to piss.
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This is atrocious, even allowing for the 10 men factor.
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Shambles
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Heskey in centre mid, good christ.
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Need to score and you bring Heskey on. Stupid ginger twat.
Indeed, fucking clueless . Unless he is looking to keep it from getting embarrassing, Heskey is the best defensive centre forward in the world.
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Well McLeish said he would drop defenders if they can't defend set pieces... We'll see
He was supposed to sort the defenders out, fucking wankers
I don't blame the manager, I blame the prick who gave him the job.
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Did West Brom accept defeat when they were 10 down against us last season? No, they went and fucking won it.
These bunch of useless gutless twats make my blood boil. They look like they've already accepted defeat. And to think they're all gonna collect their wages. ffs.
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Come on boys, please show some bottle
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corner! not petrov please
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Heskey and Cuellar passing their way down the wing successfully, resulting in a decent cross.
It must be the end of days.
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This question was asked before the season started, it has been asked repeatedly so far this season, and I fear it will be asked several times more before the season ends:
Where is our midfield?
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Did West Brom accept defeat when they were 10 down against us last season? No, they went and fucking won it.
These bunch of useless gutless twats make my blood boil. They look like they've already accepted defeat. And to think they're all gonna collect their wages. ffs.
So long as they collect their big wages regardless of what happens on the pitch they dont give a shit.
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I've never understood why petrov always takes the pace off the ball when passing it. No zip to his game
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McLeish out.
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Heskey bundled off the ball by someone as big as a 4 yr old.... FFS
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substitution from mcleish hasnt helped matters.
petrov nor bannan able for a 2 man midfield particularly in a 10 man side.
reckon we will get one chance
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FFS come on Villa somebody put their foot on the ball and keep it for a few passes.
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This question was asked before the season started, it has been asked repeatedly so far this season, and I fear it will be asked several times more before the season ends:
Where is our midfield?
We sold most of it and let the rest go to seed.
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We can't pass a football. That's a huge problem.
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I'm not sure where Heskey is playing now, but it's not going well.
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I really wish I knew what the chairman is trying to achieve at this club now??? The decline of this club over the past season and a half is absolutely galling :(
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I'm not sure where Heskey is playing now, but it's not going well.
Heskey don't play football, he can't even hold it up then pass it to some fucker who can.
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Surely Heskey if he's going to be put on, should be put up front so we can lump it to him.
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Heskey on and in midfield? Fantastic. Fantastic. If he'da been shoved up top, fair enough. He's shit but he's big. But in midfield? MID FUCKING FIELD?
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I really wish I knew what the chairman is trying to achieve at this club now??? The decline of this club over the past season and a half is absolutely galling :(
He has to take some responsibility for the state of things.
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Why the yellow rubbery FUCK is Heskey playing in midfield?
He's not even very good as a forward, and that's meant to be his specialist position! Stupid ginger fool.
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Albrighton on for Bannan.
Heskey in midfield.
I don't really understand what we're trying to achieve, here.
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Why is it that whenever we play against 10 men we struggle yet when we are down to 10 men we don't show anywhere near as much fight?
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Heskey as part of a MIDFIELD TWO.
....I'm fucking speechless.
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McLeish out.
Do you really think? Of the many problems we have I do not think too many are the responsibility or the fault of McLeish.
Or were you being sarcastic and I missed it?
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I think we could well go down. We are a shambles.
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Albrighton on for Bannan.
Heskey in midfield.
I don't really understand what we're trying to achieve, here.
Nor does the fucking manager.
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Has Collins ever ever found a Villa player with one of his hoofs upfield?
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We can't pass a football. That's a huge problem.
Would normally agree with you but we're finally starting to show that we actually do can pass a ball. Good to see Villa man-ing up, playing with plenty of heart. We just need to maintain the pressure. Can't argue with taking off Bannan, he's not doing enough, especially finding space.
We can still get something from this.
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McLeish out.
Do you really think? Of the many problems we have I do not think too many are the responsibility or the fault of McLeish.
Or were you being sarcastic and I missed it?
Have you seen where he is playing Heskey?
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heskey is comical
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Fuck me. It comes to something when I look enviously at Alan Pardew...
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This is like watching a woman you love get fucked by someone else.
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McLeish out.
Do you really think? Of the many problems we have I do not think too many are the responsibility or the fault of McLeish.
Or were you being sarcastic and I missed it?
Have you seen where he is playing Heskey?
At least Heskey is putting in a shift.
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Fuck me. It comes to something when I look enviously at Alan Pardew...
Come back Houlier all is forgiven
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They learned the lesson from Man City game..not us!
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According to BBC Sport we've had no shots on target at home in open play. Is that true? If so, McLeish out. He'll relegate us.
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I really wish I knew what the chairman is trying to achieve at this club now??? The decline of this club over the past season and a half is absolutely galling :(
This.
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McLeish out.
Do you really think? Of the many problems we have I do not think too many are the responsibility or the fault of McLeish.
Or were you being sarcastic and I missed it?
Have you seen where he is playing Heskey?
At least Heskey is putting in a shift.
I could put a shift in for what this lot are being paid, don't mean I will be any good though.
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Fuck me. It comes to something when I look enviously at Alan Pardew...
:) Shit......I got fed up of MON but seriously how many derby games did we lose with him in charge. We really are getting to be the joke club of the midlands.
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I think we could well go down. We are a shambles.
The silver lining today is that Bolton and Wigan are losing as that will be the teams we will be competing against at the end of the season.
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According to BBC Sport we've had no shots on target at home in open play. Is that true? If so, McLeish out. He'll relegate us.
Have a good time in Brugges? Twat.
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I honestly thought Given was going to catch that for a minute!
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Without a doubt we are indeed shit.
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McLeish out.
Do you really think? Of the many problems we have I do not think too many are the responsibility or the fault of McLeish.
Or were you being sarcastic and I missed it?
Have you seen where he is playing Heskey?
At least Heskey is putting in a shift.
Yep, fully earning his 65k this week.
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Petrov, terrible.
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McLeish out.
Do you really think? Of the many problems we have I do not think too many are the responsibility or the fault of McLeish.
Or were you being sarcastic and I missed it?
Sarcasm mainly.
It's a bummer we only have 10 players on the field when we should be playing with 11 players (thanks to Phil Dowd you ******)... you can't blame McLeish for that, what's annoyed me is the lack of effort almost looking as if we've completely given up on the game in second half.
I was hoping we'd be going into half time with the lead, them equalising kinda ruined McLeish's gamelpan in the second half.
I blame Phil Dowd for our loss today.
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McLeish out.
Do you really think? Of the many problems we have I do not think too many are the responsibility or the fault of McLeish.
Or were you being sarcastic and I missed it?
Have you seen where he is playing Heskey?
True but I said before the game that it was a huge game for Herd as there was no suitable replacement for him on the bench. Of the players available he probably has played more than most in midfield.
I suppose Clark is an alternative that was available to him.
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We're soberingly bad at football.
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We can't pass a football. That's a huge problem.
Would normally agree with you but we're finally starting to show that we actually do can pass a ball. Good to see Villa man-ing up, playing with plenty of heart. We just need to maintain the pressure. Can't argue with taking off Bannan, he's not doing enough, especially finding space.
We can still get something from this.
I must have missed the bits where we passed the ball well. Mainly, I've seen us squander possession, hit balls into touch, hoof it a lot and fail to retain the football. There may well be statistics to back this up, but I can't be arsed to look for them.
I hope you're right, that we can get something from the game.
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shocking afternoon with no positives to be taken from this at all-deeply depressing!
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According to BBC Sport we've had no shots on target at home in open play. Is that true? If so, McLeish out. He'll relegate us.
Have a good time in Brugges? Twat.
Please don't insult people, however thick they might be being.
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Even with all 11 men, we have the worst centre mid in the league probably.
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Without a doubt we are indeed shit.
Yep. Very poor stuff, ten men or not.
Because actually, when all is said and done and that, West Brom are shit. But a little bit better than us.
Lucky you had that beer, eh? ;-)
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We could have snatched a draw, but with Heskey on we've had no chance. He's ruined everything he's been involved with. I'm fucking furious. I'd rather have Guzan in midfield.
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Heskey arriving late in the box from his midfield position.
That's playing to his strengths, eh?
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So much for an unbeaten run. We are so fucking shit absolute shit.
FUCK the playes FUCK the manager Fuck the owner
Randy you have proper fucked it up. Allowed MoN to spunk millions, picked a replacement who had heart problems then replaced him with a manager who relegated a team twice in 3 years.
What did you think was going to happen?
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We're being toyed with. By West Brom. This is not acceptable.
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We can't blame Heskey, if he's told to play in goal by the manager then he has to. Blame the moron who is running the club and employed the current managerial incumbent....
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I reckon there might be some almighty booing coming up......
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According to BBC Sport we've had no shots on target at home in open play. Is that true? If so, McLeish out. He'll relegate us.
Have a good time in Brugges? Twat.
Please don't insult people, however thick they might be being.
Not an insult. Find me one positive post he's made about the Villa since he's been on here and I'll apologise.
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Fergal you are on the money with that post.
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According to BBC Sport we've had no shots on target at home in open play. Is that true? If so, McLeish out. He'll relegate us.
Have a good time in Brugges? Twat.
Please don't insult people, however thick they might be being.
Not an insult. Find me one positive post he's made about the Villa since he's been on here and I'll apologise.
Calling him a twat is an insult.
And I'm not really bothered if you apologise or not, just don't do it.
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So much for an unbeaten run. We are so fucking shit absolute shit.
FUCK the playes FUCK the manager Fuck the owner
Randy you have proper fucked it up. Allowed MoN to spunk millions, picked a replacement who had heart problems then replaced him with a manager who relegated a team twice in 3 years.
What did you think was going to happen?
Agreed he needs to do the honourable thing and fuck off quick sharp. He's turning our club into a laughing stock.