Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Virgil Caine on October 21, 2011, 01:10:23 PM
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...... but charges of refusing to warm up still apply though he will appeal against this. Truly the lunatics have taken over the asylum. Depending on how principled he is I would expect Mancini to make some comment at the very least- though my money is on him resigning before the weekend is over.
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More likely he will use Tevez as sparingly as possible until they can sell him in January.
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Wasn't this an internal investigation too? Yes, Mancini will just love that.
He'll be gone in January, some mug will fork out for him. Probably Spurs.
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I hate football.
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It does seem strange that they have come to this conclusion against what their manager had to say.
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Basically they just couldn't prove it. Interesting though that he is appealing against the charge of refusing to warm up. I thought his defence against the original charge was that he didn't refuse to play, he refused to warm up again. Even more interesting is Platt and Kidd not backing up Mancini's version of events.
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Ridiculous really, but I think they are worried about the ramifications of finding against him. That said, what does it say about a managers control over his players?
I don't know what Tevez is moaning about. His wages are precluding him from joining a team in South America, so unless Madrid want him, he will have to stay put and have sleepless nights about paying the bills.
Like I had put on another post, footballers can now act as the stroppy movie star who refuses to leave their trailer on a film set, until someone has delivered their skinny latte at the right temperature.
So if that means they don't want to play, so be it.
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I want Tevez's lawyers number!!
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I want Tevez's lawyers number!!
It'll probably cost you £10,000 just to dial it!
It's a joke really, isn't it? The one club that can afford to lose £20m on a player and even they end up bowing to player power.
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most footballers especially ones as good as Tevez want to play all the time,
i think he was just pissed of with being left out and feeling cross toward Manchini and had a little strop about it along the lies of 'now we are deep in the shit you want me to play' when he probably wished he was on from the beginning.
anyway i know what he did was wrong, but i can see something of how he felt at the time, he hasnt done himself any favours over it and probably regrets it, but we have all done things on the spur of the moment when we are feeling pissed of that when we look back look a bit stupid. i know i have
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most footballers especially ones as good as Tevez want to play all the time,
i think he was just pissed of with being left out and feeling cross toward Manchini and had a little strop about it along the lies of 'now we are deep in the shit you want me to play' when he probably wished he was on from the beginning.
anyway i know what he did was wrong, but i can see something of how he felt at the time, he hasnt done himself any favours over it and probably regrets it, but we have all done things on the spur of the moment when we are feeling pissed of that when we look back look a bit stupid. i know i have
You know, I think this is the closest we are going to get to how this ridiculous little footballing millionnaire thinks. I still want him to be strung up as an example to the rest but I think you are closer to the truth of what will really happen.
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As The Fiver puts it:
The club have told Carlos Tevez that, while he has been cleared by an internal investigation of refusing to play against Bayern Munich, he will be charged with the lesser crime of refusing to warm up, which as far as the Fiver can make out is exactly the same thing. Tevez has stated his intention to appeal, which will probably see the charge further downgraded to Sitting Around With A Bit Of A Face On. If his lawyers keep up this stellar performance, it won't be long before Tevez is awarded the man-of-the-match champagne.
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The Daily Mash (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/tevez-refuses-to-enter-disciplinary-hearing-201110134417/) reveals the real reason Citeh failed to prove Tevez was guilty
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Player power wins again. Carlos Tevez is an odeous cretin of the highest order. I really, really hate this frigging game now. We have to watch a bunch of assholes running around being treated like fucking kings. I've lost count of how many thugs there are playing still, who without the benefit of high priced scumbag lawyers and celebrity cushions, would probably be in jail right now. See Joey Barton and Marlon King off the top of my head.
Man City are almost singlehandedly now trying to make the premierleague beyond enjoyment. Even Chelsea, who really started the ball rolling weren't ever this bad. If they win the league I don't know if I could carry on watching. I might have to retire from watching footy altogether, or start watching non-league.
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I, like you SuperTom, am thoroughly fed up with the 'modern game' and the Premiership in general. If I had a wish granted I would like to see all Premiership teams bar the 'Top 6' vote to move away and create the English Elite League, with 22 clubs ( numbers made up from The Championship) , an agreed wage structure, minimum number of home grown players per match, a return to regular Saturday 3p.m KO and a TV deal negotiated for the benefit and consideration of supporters.
The Top 6 can go and join a European Champions League and delude themselves that success bought through excessive capitalism is what a true football fan wants.
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First thing you have to take on board is in clearing this player he becomes sellable again and some chance of recouping a decent fee for him, the other thing that should concern Mancini is the fact that nobody else could corroborate Mancini's version of events, that should really bother him.
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I see his 4-week wages fine has been reduced to 2-weeks, thanks to Gordon Taylor sticking his oar in.
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What is more odious - a club with limitless wealth buying the league, an obscenely overpaid egotistical player exercising limitless power, or a clueless and insipid old boys club style overseeing body blinded by the same greed that infects the rest of the game?
Football is great isn't it?
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I see his 4-week wages fine has been reduced to 2-weeks, thanks to Gordon Taylor sticking his oar in.
According to Taylor there were mitigating circumstances.
Apparently this young man had been told to warm up during the previous two matches and didn't get on to the pitch so he was 'entitled ' to feel a bit miffed at being told to warm up during this game with no promise that he would get on to the pitch.
So that's ok then, if as a professional footballer you don't get to play when you want to, it's quite alright to refuse to obey the manager and bring the game into disrepute, that nice Mr. Taylor will come to your rescue and make sure you get a cuddle and he'll pick all your toys up and put them back into the pram ready for the next time.
Gordon Taylor, as the players union leader yes you do have a duty to look after players interests but you also have a wider duty to football to ensure that players who bring the game such bad publicity are dealt with as severely as possible.
You have made yourself part of the problem that is modern football by your actions over recent years.
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Why do a bunch of multi-millionaire couldn't care less players need a frigging "union" anyway. Fair enough for the lower paid journey men players but I doubt very much the founding father's of the PFA had in mind ensuring that massively overpaid lazy spoilt brats were entitled to continue to be lazy spoilt brats. Taylor would have won a lot of kudos if he'd told Tevez "we're not interested, you're paid a lot of money to do a job, so don't complain to us when you're asked to do it."
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Taylor would have won a lot of kudos if he'd told Tevez "we're not interested, you're paid a lot of money to do a job, so don't complain to us when you're asked to do it."
He wouldn't have won a lot of kudos from his members, who are the people who put the bread on the table in the Taylor household, through their no doubt extensive contributions. He who pays the piper etc. etc.
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I see his 4-week wages fine has been reduced to 2-weeks, thanks to Gordon Taylor sticking his oar in.
According to Taylor there were mitigating circumstances.
Apparently this young man had been told to warm up during the previous two matches and didn't get on to the pitch so he was 'entitled ' to feel a bit miffed at being told to warm up during this game with no promise that he would get on to the pitch.
So that's ok then, if as a professional footballer you don't get to play when you want to, it's quite alright to refuse to obey the manager and bring the game into disrepute, that nice Mr. Taylor will come to your rescue and make sure you get a cuddle and he'll pick all your toys up and put them back into the pram ready for the next time.
Gordon Taylor, as the players union leader yes you do have a duty to look after players interests but you also have a wider duty to football to ensure that players who bring the game such bad publicity are dealt with as severely as possible.
You have made yourself part of the problem that is modern football by your actions over recent years.
Ex Blues player, what do you expect
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I see his 4-week wages fine has been reduced to 2-weeks, thanks to Gordon Taylor sticking his oar in.
According to Taylor there were mitigating circumstances.
Apparently this young man had been told to warm up during the previous two matches and didn't get on to the pitch so he was 'entitled ' to feel a bit miffed at being told to warm up during this game with no promise that he would get on to the pitch.
So that's ok then, if as a professional footballer you don't get to play when you want to, it's quite alright to refuse to obey the manager and bring the game into disrepute, that nice Mr. Taylor will come to your rescue and make sure you get a cuddle and he'll pick all your toys up and put them back into the pram ready for the next time.
Gordon Taylor, as the players union leader yes you do have a duty to look after players interests but you also have a wider duty to football to ensure that players who bring the game such bad publicity are dealt with as severely as possible.
You have made yourself part of the problem that is modern football by your actions over recent years.
Ex Blues player, what do you expect
And a Manc.
What a combination that is.
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The puzzling thing about Tevez is his stated aim of wanting to be closer to his kids so that he could visit them. A laudable thing for any young father to want. But what has he done to achieve this?
He's alienated the whole of Manc land by saying that Manchester is rubbish ( have to agree with him on that one) put in a transfer request and following that said he would quite like to play for Real Madrid ( how much closer to Buenos Aires is Madrid?).
Then he refuses to play/warm up for his current empolyers.
If what he said about his kids is true wouldn't it be easier for him to buy out his contract and move back to Argentina and take any job at all, milkman, street sweeper etc?
Now for the arm around the shoulder fatherly advice bit...............
Get rid of that leech Joorabchian and follow your instincts.
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I was listening to Gordan Taylor on the radio last week , what an idiot that man is...
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while Tevez is an utter wanker, the clubs and the game itself lends itself to creating the environment for them to exist. If every time Rooney or Tevez or the like has a strop or act like a complete fucking knob a club didn't step in and pay them more, then this kind of thing won't happen. The next Rooney or Tevez that will emerge knowing that a precident has been set for behaviour.
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Why do a bunch of multi-millionaire couldn't care less players need a frigging "union" anyway.
They probably don't, any more than a bunch of Chief Constables need a Police Union.
But although it's not really there to specifically help them, if they were offered help they probably wouldn't turn it down.