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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: kippaxvilla2 on October 02, 2011, 10:47:01 PM

Title: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 02, 2011, 10:47:01 PM
6 defeats in a row.  Remember loads wanting him to come to Villa.
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: ozzjim on October 02, 2011, 10:50:24 PM
See their fixture list? Very, very tough first few games. He is a good manager IMO and Bolton will pick up points. They did us in the cup easily enough.
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 02, 2011, 10:54:00 PM
See their fixture list? Very, very tough first few games. He is a good manager IMO and Bolton will pick up points. They did us in the cup easily enough.

I've literally just seen that fixture list, didnt realise, still they were feckin awful today.  Makes it all the more galling we lost to them.  Plus did you notice our reserves did theirs 3-1 the following night, obviously they were knackered following the cup win!
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: luke25 on October 02, 2011, 10:54:27 PM
Theres something about him that I just can't stand, everytime I see him being interviewed I want the interviewer to hit him over the head with the microphone.
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 02, 2011, 10:55:47 PM
I think it's the accent, sort of smooth Scottish if that makes sense.
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: Somniloquism on October 02, 2011, 11:02:09 PM
6 defeats in a row.  Remember loads wanting him to come to Villa.

I reckon it is the shit defence he has that has caused this.
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 02, 2011, 11:04:11 PM
6 defeats in a row.  Remember loads wanting him to come to Villa.

I reckon it is the shit defence he has that has caused this.

Zathia is ok, but this bloke Cahill is so overrated.
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: taylorsworkrate on October 02, 2011, 11:06:38 PM
6 defeats in a row.  Remember loads wanting him to come to Villa.

Bolton have got a pretty handy reserve side though.
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: Chipsticks on October 02, 2011, 11:42:14 PM
I still back Bolton to do well this season, as there is just too much quality in their side in Gary Cahill, Jussi Jaaskeleinen (when fit), Martin Petrov, Keven Davies, Ricardo Gardner, Tuncay Sanli etc. All players I'd happily see in a Villa shirt.

As for Coyle, I think he may have underestimated Chelsea a bit today, and probably would've been more successful starting with a more defensive approach, perhaps 5 in midfield? As has been pointed on here and on MotD 2 tonight, they have had an incredibly tough start to the season, having already played Man City, Arsenal, Man Utd, and Liverpool. They've got the international break to gather ideas and work on their defending and I back them to finish around mid table, starting with a win against their 'local rivals' Wigan in two weeks.
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: taylorsworkrate on October 03, 2011, 12:38:02 AM
Kevin Davies!?

I'd be devastated if we signed that crap thug.
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: KRS on October 03, 2011, 05:28:04 AM
They've had a nightmare set of opening fixtures that any mid table team would have struggled to cope with. They'll start climbing the league slowly and be back in the mid table mix up before the end of December.
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: Shrek on October 03, 2011, 06:26:10 AM
No different from asking last May if anyone wants Alex Mcleish!
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: ozzjim on October 03, 2011, 07:05:28 AM
Yesterday their keeper was about as bad as I have ever seen though, and you can't legislate for that. Playing the top 4 yoy know your keeper has to have a solid, confident game or your entire back 4 will get the jitters. That Bogdan or whatever he is called was just stunningly inept.
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: Lambert and Payne on October 03, 2011, 07:33:56 AM
In fairness Jussi has had a nightmare or 2 himself so far this season. I think he's massively overrared, he couldn't catch a cold and his command of area is shocking, he makes the occasioinal good save but he fucks up too much

Playing the top 4 can't have been easy, but they've been absolutely slaughtered in all of them games. And a defeat to norwich can't help
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: richard moore on October 03, 2011, 07:39:27 AM
They will be ok once the fixtures even themselves out

Still reckon it is Bruce or Kean for first premier league sacking of the season

Cahill was all at sea yesterday, granted it was against Chelsea, but let's not forget this is a guy who was being touted in the £15m + category in the summer and as the next generation England centre half. Not that it takes much to be either of those things these days.

Couldn't help notice how crap Coker looked as well. In addition to being unable to pass straight over 5 yards or make any sort of meaningful decision, he now also appears to have lost what little skill he did have in being able to track back....
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: nigel on October 03, 2011, 07:54:35 AM
See their fixture list? Very, very tough first few games. He is a good manager IMO and Bolton will pick up points. They did us in the cup easily enough.

I've literally just seen that fixture list, didnt realise, still they were feckin awful today.  Makes it all the more galling we lost to them.  Plus did you notice our reserves did theirs 3-1 the following night, obviously they were knackered following the cup win!
If it was their reserves that beat us in the cup (which is what people are making out), it must follow that  our reserves beat their 1st team in that fixture.
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on October 03, 2011, 08:41:51 AM
They ain't got a decent forward now that sturridge has gone back to chelsea, they were crap at the back end of last season though
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: supertom on October 03, 2011, 11:45:09 AM
Injuries and a horrid fixture list has played a part. Coyle's certainly not the brilliant manager some made out, though I think he's decent enough. Personally I think we're showing improvement with McLeish now. He's still finding his feet but we're making steady progress and sitting comfortably.

Bolton will end up mid-table if they get their better players back fit soon enough. I don't think they'll go down, not when there's a lot of piss poor squads in the top flight, in far worse shape.
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: Vanilla on October 03, 2011, 11:59:08 AM
First 7 Bolton games:

Played:
QPR A
Man City H
Liverpool A
Man Utd H
Norwich H
Arsenal A
Chelsea H

Won 1 Lost 6
Teams played expected to finish in the top 6 = 5/7

Villa first 7 games:

Played:

Fulham A
Blackburn H
Wolves H
Everton A
Newcastle H
QPR A
Wigan H

Won 2 Drawn 5
Teams played expected to finish in the top 6 = Maybe 1/7
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: Shrek on October 03, 2011, 12:06:42 PM
Why they sold Al Habsi to Wigan I'll never know.

Is it Worrying that they played us off the park in the carling cup?
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: Brend'Watkins on October 03, 2011, 12:14:22 PM
Losing at home to Norwich is the stand out result.  If they'd have won that the pressure would have been off.  Now they have to win the next game otherwise they could well spiral.

...And that God we didn't re-sign Rio Coker. 
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: darren woolley on October 03, 2011, 12:36:34 PM
They've had a tough start to the season but I think they have lost 11 in 12 matches going back to last season and there goalkeeper was really poor yesterday.
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 03, 2011, 12:40:19 PM
They've had a tough start to the season but I think they have lost 11 in 12 matches going back to last season and there goalkeeper was really poor yesterday.

Since the Stoke semi-final trouncing they have lost 11 out of 12 league games. Their only other wins since then have been in the LC against the Macc Lads and us.
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: Chris Smith on October 03, 2011, 01:03:58 PM
Theres something about him that I just can't stand, everytime I see him being interviewed I want the interviewer to hit him over the head with the microphone.

If Fergie is Taggart then Coyle is the weasel faced grass who shops his his granny for a bag of smack.
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: Matt C on October 03, 2011, 01:08:52 PM
They miss Holden desperately and have had some other misfortune with injuries - didn't one of their summer signings break a leg in pre-season? Big test for Coyle to get them back on track - I reckon he will.
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: Ads on October 03, 2011, 01:27:45 PM
They'll struggle all season now.

It all well and good saying "look who they're playing", but be it Man United, Chelsea or the mighty Norwich City, they've looked a bag of balls in all of them.

Losing becomes a habit and they've had that habit since the semi-final defeat to Stoke.



 
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: Pete3206 on October 03, 2011, 04:57:31 PM
No
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: kipeye on October 03, 2011, 05:52:19 PM
Judge them after we have played them in the league.
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: KRS on October 03, 2011, 05:52:24 PM
They've had a tough start to the season but I think they have lost 11 in 12 matches going back to last season and there goalkeeper was really poor yesterday.
Thats actually a very good point...they lost their last 5 league fixtures of last season against Fulham, Blackburn, Sunderland, Blackpool and Citeh. It is actually worse than the 7 games played so far this season so no wonder the fans are starting to voice their concerns. Coyle has got 6 games now to turn it around or he could be in the race with Kean to be the first PL manager sacked.
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: Damo70 on October 03, 2011, 07:32:56 PM
They haven't got a goalscorer. They miss the Korean guy Lee's goals from midfield as he's out injured long term and they would have been in huge trouble last season without the Sturridge loan and his goals.
Title: Re: Anyone For Owen Coyle?
Post by: RunRickyRun on October 03, 2011, 08:12:20 PM
They've lost Holden & Lee (both injuries), Elmander and Sturridge from last year's team.
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