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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on September 24, 2011, 04:12:12 PM
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Available Sunday afternoon.
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VILLA: Given, Hutton, Collins, Dunne, Warnock, Petrov, Delph, Ireland, N'Zogbia, Bannan, Agbonlahor.
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Subs: Guzan, Albrighton, Beye, Delfouneso, Lowry, Weimann, Gardner.
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So Gardner on the bench, I Bannan is wasted out wide, but this team is full of creativity.
Come on lads!
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Interesting to see Ireland get a start.
The pub I would normally watch this in shut down this week so I've got to go to the spit and sawdust one. Hope the game makes up for it
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Now THAT is more like it Alex! Hope it pays off.
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That team SHOULD create a fair few chances, C'mon lads!
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My heart sinks every time I see Ireland's name on the team sheet.
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So Gardner on the bench, I Bannan is wasted out wide, but this team is full of creativity.
True, but with Ireland inside of him in a 4-2-3-1 he'll have loads many options and chances to roam about than in the 4-4-2. I'm quite happy with this team, I just hope it pays off.
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Can't decide whether to nip over the Strathallan and watch it as i'm fed up of trying to find some dodgy stream to watch. Or just stick to listening on the wireless.
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Come on you Villa boys
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Some of these comments remind me of the start of the Bolton thread. Let's hope for a different outcome today.
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The team is as good a selection as he could make from those available. Now he needs to get the tactics right. Good to see both Weimann and Gardner on the bench. Future regulars IMO.
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No idea why but for the first time this season I have that pumped up feeling I used to get.
Probably means we will lose, mind.
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Anyone found a half decent stream?
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Anyone found a half decent stream?
Sky sports is free to everyone this weekend, if you already have it, HD is free.
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Delighted to see Ireland and Bannan in the same team.
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A win would do wonders for us, I fear for this one though. I can's shift the feeling of dread that we are one of the 3 worst teams in this division. I know we are not but pessimism seems to be ruling me these days.
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Anyone found a half decent stream?
Sky sports is free to everyone this weekend, if you already have it, HD is free.
It isn't if you only have freeview.
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How many tickets villa sold?
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Anyone found a half decent stream?
Sky sports is free to everyone this weekend, if you already have it, HD is free.
It isn't if you only have freeview.
I have Freeview. I take it I won't be able to tune in?
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Anyone found a half decent stream?
Sky sports is free to everyone this weekend, if you already have it, HD is free.
It isn't if you only have freeview.
I have Freeview. I take it I won't be able to tune in?
Well on mine it says signal scrambled, so i'm guessing not :-( Been the same all weekend.
So i'm off down the pub, come on you Villa boys!!!!
UTV
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David Cameron's there. At Loftus Road that is.
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David Cameron's there. At Loftus Road that is.
who said he doesnt support us at the grounds
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Anyone found a half decent stream?
Sky sports is free to everyone this weekend, if you already have it, HD is free.
It isn't if you only have freeview.
I have Freeview. I take it I won't be able to tune in?
It's only free if you subscribe to Virgin or Sky.
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Wright Phillips running off Hutton with ease inside 4 minutes.
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Fucking hell.
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yikes!
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Bloody hell that was close.
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http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/82673/1/watch-queens-park-rangers-vs-aston-villa.html
If anyone is looking this is ok at the moment....
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Good noise/support from the Villa fans
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This could be a long afternoon.
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That Tara a bit looks decent.
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Given had that covered...............
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Brilliant from Tarrbt, but what the fuck was Petrov doing just watching him walk past, and why are we simply hoofing it clear even when not under pressure!?
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This could be a long afternoon.
Could be over by half time...
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Delighted to see Ireland and Bannan in the same team.
You and me, Squire, they're on the same wavelength.
Afternoon Villa knights of Aston, drama queens and eunuchs!
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We're make loads of stupid little mistakes that we'll get punished for if we're not careful.
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Game's settling into the usual rearguard action...
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Here we go....
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Anyone else get the feel the ref is going to give them every 5050 all afternoon too?
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We are already looking far short of the pace here
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Not the best of starts.
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Bannan needs to step up and become a Premier League player. Game is already bypassing him, as for Ireland and N'Zog. Early days I know.....
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I thoguht we were about to pass our way in to their half then, but Petrov was on hand to make sure it was played backwards again. ffs.
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Keep going guys. Only 80 mins to hang on.
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Backs against the wall stuff so far.
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Without Heskey, there is nothing behind their midfield to hold the ball and be a presence. We are better with him than without.
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Bannan needs to step up and become a Premier League player. Game is already bypassing him, as for Ireland and N'Zog. Early days I know.....
Bloody hell mate, it's just kicked off
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Bannan needs to step up and become a Premier League player. Game is already bypassing him, as for Ireland and N'Zog. Early days I know.....
We can't get our foot on the ball and slow it down to bring these players into the game.
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Claret shorts :-\
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Interesting views on the manager from Gary Dot Cotton Neville, there.
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Its this talent we have to make every ordinary team look like a top team
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Claret shorts :-\
Not right, is it?
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Bannan needs to step up and become a Premier League player. Game is already bypassing him, as for Ireland and N'Zog. Early days I know.....
Bloody hell mate, it's just kicked off
I know, but another slow start. Why are we always off the pace in midfield from the kick off? We away away and should be closing down and chasing like maniacs to stop QPR settling in.
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All I can say is Gary Neville is a fucking cock!
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we have done well to keep a the score to 0-0 first 15 mins.... can't soak up pressure like this
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Big game today for Bannon , Delph , Nzog and Ireland . They all need to step up ..
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FFS Warnock, half asleep.
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Who the fuck is the idiot commentating on this?
We should be lucky to have AM? Lucky to get a manager of his pedigree?
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Without Heskey, there is nothing behind their midfield to hold the ball and be a presence. We are better with him than without.
It's a horrible thought, because he looks shit most games and rarely seem to do much but foul people and fall over. But we look even worse without him in the team, Christ.
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Bannan needs to step up and become a Premier League player. Game is already bypassing him, as for Ireland and N'Zog. Early days I know.....
We can't get our foot on the ball and slow it down to bring these players into the game.
Essentially because neither Delph or Petrov are holding players that will destroy effectively. We need a couple of big hard men in there in front of the back 4 that can play. As ever, the centre of midfield just kills us.
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All I can say is Gary Neville is a fucking cock!
Amen. He's no Andy Gray. His accent is bloody annoying let alone the obvious crap he spouts.
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playing shit again
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You know the one thing that gets me is. Let's just ignore how shit we play for a second. Even when we've got a throwing, no one is really there to recieve the ball. It's like they don't want it. :-\
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Without Heskey, there is nothing behind their midfield to hold the ball and be a presence. We are better with him than without.
It's a horrible thought, because he looks shit most games and rarely seem to do much but foul people and fall over. But we look even worse without him in the team, Christ.
Fuck me, are we so shit we need a player of Heskeys quality?
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All I can say is Gary Neville is a fucking cock!
Amen. He's no Andy Gray. His accent is bloody annoying let alone the obvious crap he spouts.
I don't mind his accent. That's about the only positive thing I have to say about him.
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playing shit again
Where?
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Our full backs are utter shite.
What did Citizen Neville have to say for himself then?
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This is fucking atrocious!
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We are getting the complete runaround here.
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they're getting in behind too much
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FFS Warnock
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it is only a matter of time until they score
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We're chasing the ball around like a team of schoolboys.
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I just feel so negative, like someone has turned the light off
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GEtting disjointed here now.
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This is fucking abysmal so far.
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They should have scored. This is diabolical.
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You know the one thing that gets me is. Let's just ignore how shit we play for a second. Even when we've got a throwing, no one is really there to recieve the ball. It's like they don't want it. :-\
Movement off the ball and making yourself available is one of the key things to playing decent football and making chances, we've not done it well for years, let us down under MON, houllier tried to improve it but got nowhere and Mcleish is ignoring it again
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Very poor.
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If I said we looked like a Sunday league team I'd be doing a disservice to every amateur player out there.
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And how is Sean Derry and Faulin looking twice the pairing of Delph and Petrov... Grrr
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Our full backs are utter shite.
What did Citizen Neville have to say for himself then?
Something about we're lucky to have our manager.
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Keep the ball!!!
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It's embarrassing
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Keep them out for 20 minutes and our class will show.
Great support from the Villa faithful.
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QPR 64% of the ball. Jesus wept. Just keep it and play it around the back 4 for a while.
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too many players not interested...N'Zog, Ireland particularly
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Would it actually be a violation of the rules for us to spend the entire 90 minutes with all ten outfield players stood on the line shoulder to shoulder behind Given?
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Very poor.
Thas one way of putting it.
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Can't string more than two passes together,business as usual.
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As we thought over run in midfield again >:(
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Our midfield is just none existent
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36% posession. I feel sick.
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Nevillllleeeee STFU
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Our midfield need to get off our 18yrd line.
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Neville is right though, we are not changing shape when we get the ball so Gabby is totally isolated.
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Crikey. Habib Beye.
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Going down in this one I think...
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Oh fuck. Habib Beye warming up. Its NEVER that bad.
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FFS somebody get hold of the ball...making QPR look like Barca
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Crikey. Habib Beye.
Give him a run out, he must be the most misunderstood player ever
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And when we do get the ball, a pointless long hoof.
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Christ almighty, finally get the ball then Warnock hoofs it to their keeper. aarrrgghhh
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Crikey. Habib Beye.
Give him a run out, he must be the most misunderstood player ever
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That is the 3rd in 20 minutes that NZogbia should have had a throw and the ref rule the other way.
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spontaneous combustion has been proved, please let the cock Neville suffer from this.
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Neville has been right much of the time though about how crap we have been!
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Has Delph even touched the ball yet?
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I'd rather Beye than Hutton, he is soooo shite
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be nice to have a shot !
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QPR - 4 shots on target, 4 shots off target
Villa - 0 shots on target, 0 shots off target
McLeish has done it. He has transformed us into our neighbours. How can any Villa support still side with this man. He's gonna take us down!
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lots of attempts for Villa
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Glad to see the PM has got his priorities right this weekend.
For a game that's on the telly. Coincidence?
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painful watching this
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We are so poor its untrue. Diabolical thus far. Why am I not surprised!
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No movement at all in the team,no wonder we cant pass to each other. This is so fcuking grim.
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7-0 corner tally.
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30 fucking mins in and we have barely been out of our own half.
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Let's have some positivity. If we win, we'll go 5th! We are that good.
If you look at the names on the teamsheet, particularly the subs bench, we are pretty much on a par with QPR. We don't have a divine right to win, but hopefully, AM will steer us to another point, at least.
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Bloody hell this is tedious. The newly promoted team are making us look like a pub side.
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Glad to see the PM has got his priorities right this weekend.
For a game that's on the telly. Coincidence?
Yeah. The bastard shouldn't even try and take his son to game of football on a Sunday, 10 mins from his house should he?
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We are so poor its untrue. Diabolical thus far. Why am I not surprised!
Agreed. I kind of expected more ball playing from this line up. I was delusional it seems.
It can't be this bad all the way. Keep it on the deck. Keep it simple. No hoofing.
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third of the game gone... two more of them and we get our draw
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Time wasting after thirty minutes, Jesus we are poor.
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Are the QPR fans catcalling Given after he put the ball out for them?!!?
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I really don't know what to say about this.
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I'd rather Beye than Hutton, he is soooo shite
Why did people think we were getting a better deal by swapping Young for Hutton? I said at the time that it was at best a sideways move.
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Good cross there, shame it was Bannan contesting it. He looks woeful.
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I'd rather Beye than Hutton, he is soooo shite
Why did people think we were getting a better deal by swapping Young for Hutton? I said at the time that it was at best a sideways move.
Thus far, and it's only a few games, Hutton has looked diabolical for us.
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Dunne stands there, Bothroyd jumps into him and yet the ref gives a foul against Dunne?
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How the fuck is that a free kick? As shit as we are, the ref will give them everything today. Expect a penalty or 2.
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Good cross there, shame it was Bannan contesting it. He looks woeful.
BB is looking evermore like a mascot who's been left out there by mistake.
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what the fuck how could that be a foul from Dunne
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Can a Sky Sports subscriber tell me, is Gary Neville now their first choice co-commentator?
It's nice of them to let us see this match for free, but his droning monotone dirge makes me think I'm glad I ditched Sky Sports.
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We can always turn to our immense options on the bench....
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The ref is having a worse game than us...
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sort of an attack then
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Rip the heart out of the midfield in 12 months by losing good players and not really replacing them and this is were you end up. A toothless passive team of plodders! Balls.
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Can a Sky Sports subscriber tell me, is Gary Neville now their first choice co-commentator?
It's nice of them to let us see this match for free, but his droning monotone dirge makes me think I'm glad I ditched Sky Sports.
Most times he has been studio based. I think this is his first attempt at co-commenting.
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Can a Sky Sports subscriber tell me, is Gary Neville now their first choice co-commentator?
It's nice of them to let us see this match for free, but his droning monotone dirge makes me think I'm glad I ditched Sky Sports.
He rotates with Alan Smith and Ray "stay on your feet" Wilkins............
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QPR's right back looks pretty impressive.
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sort of an attack then
Are you sure you weren't just looking at the TV in the mirror?
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Crikey.
Not seen that end of the pitch for a while.
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RED ALERT Our full back just got into their half...
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How to turn attack into defence
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Fucking pathetic
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"Boring boring Villa" sing the QPR fans.
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"boring boring villa"
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Fans singing boring boring Villa got that bloody right.
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QPR (or Villa Away fans) chanting boring boring Villa.
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QPR's right back looks pretty impressive.
Villa's looks shite...
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What are our lot singing now?
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Fuck me, this is terrible. What the fuck are they doing giving it away so cheaply?
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"Boring Boring Villa".
Not heard that in years, it's hard to disagree. Get the fuck out McLeish. This isn't football.
I feel for people who've paid to watch this shit.
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH CORNER!!!!!!
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fook , Ive just realised you are seeing this two minutes in front of me .
I just realised I paused it for two mins when AM was talking while I went for a piss to see what he had to say ...
dont tell me if we score .. as if
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Bloody hell we've only got a corner.
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A corner YES
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ironic cheers
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'Are you Scotland in disguise'. When Qpr fans mock you,youve fallen pretty far.
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Corner...... This is it our season is about to turn on
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38 mins a corner!!!!!!
Lets all have a disco.
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Taken by Petrov....
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QPR - 4 shots on target, 4 shots off target
Villa - 0 shots on target, 0 shots off target
McLeish has done it. He has transformed us into our neighbours. How can any Villa support still side with this man. He's gonna take us down!
You must have hated MON.
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Get up Barton you cock. Trying to get another player sent off.
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Warnock might be off here
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Warnock having a stinker
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Chearing a corner, it'll let "let's pretend we've scored a goal" next.
Actually, with our attitude this season "Let's pretend we've had a shot".
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Fucking hell Warnock. I know it is Barton but FFS, no danger there at all.
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Best thing Warnock has done since he's been here!
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What do they do in training? I bet he takes them to the driving range to see how far they can fucking hoof it. What a mess we are in.
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we are shit as shit can be
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QPR - 4 shots on target, 4 shots off target
Villa - 0 shots on target, 0 shots off target
McLeish has done it. He has transformed us into our neighbours. How can any Villa support still side with this man. He's gonna take us down!
You must have hated MON.
For all of O'Neill's faults, and some of the dull games over the last season, it wasn't anywhere near as bad as this, and in the first year or two he had us playing the most entertaining football we had in at least a decade.
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About time barton got a taste of his own medicine, poor challenge though
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On a side issue, Petrov sweats more than Lee Evans..
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we are shit as shit can be
At least we are unbeatenzzzzzzzz
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They are playing for a draw and QPR ain't. Not good!
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We don't look like footballers, I never thought we'd be this bad.
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If we get a goal here it will be so...................
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Is that fucking turd Ireland actually on the pitch??
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QPR - 4 shots on target, 4 shots off target
Villa - 0 shots on target, 0 shots off target
McLeish has done it. He has transformed us into our neighbours. How can any Villa support still side with this man. He's gonna take us down!
You must have hated MON.
For all of O'Neill's faults, and some of the dull games over the last season, it wasn't anywhere near as bad as this, and in the first year or two he had us playing the most entertaining football we had in at least a decade.
Under O'Neill we were frequently terrible to watch, one dimensional, and relied on wingers endlessly whipping balls in.
Watching us under AM is exactly like watching that, except he took the balls from the wing out.
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come on villa nick one before half time
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"Aston Villa are trying to slow the game down at every oppurtunity"
Says rat face after Villa tried to take a quick free kick.... Idiot
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I bet Sky are glad they picked this game as free to air.
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We deserve to be out of this game by a few goals, if we do get something it will be a minor miracle. ( said that against Everton )
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Chance!
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It might be just me not paying attention. But did we only have three players in the box attacking the corner?
nice place for a freekick for us. First goal for Charlie?
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this might just be a shot on goal coming up
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Unlucky Banna.
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Good chance from Barry.
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2 shots on target in the last 135 minutes of football.
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QPR - 4 shots on target, 4 shots off target
Villa - 0 shots on target, 0 shots off target
McLeish has done it. He has transformed us into our neighbours. How can any Villa support still side with this man. He's gonna take us down!
You must have hated MON.
For all of O'Neill's faults, and some of the dull games over the last season, it wasn't anywhere near as bad as this, and in the first year or two he had us playing the most entertaining football we had in at least a decade.
Under O'Neill we were frequently terrible to watch, one dimensional, and relied on wingers endlessly whipping balls in.
Watching us under AM is exactly like watching that, except he took the balls from the wing out.
I wonder how MON would manage it without any wingers?
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This is so shit!
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Only shot on target by us despite being hammered
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Gab is so isolated. Bannan needs to be put in the middle closer to him,take off ireland and bring on Marc.
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Can anyone think of a worse central midfield pairing in the prem than ours?
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QPR - 4 shots on target, 4 shots off target
Villa - 0 shots on target, 0 shots off target
McLeish has done it. He has transformed us into our neighbours. How can any Villa support still side with this man. He's gonna take us down!
You must have hated MON.
For all of O'Neill's faults, and some of the dull games over the last season, it wasn't anywhere near as bad as this, and in the first year or two he had us playing the most entertaining football we had in at least a decade.
Under O'Neill we were frequently terrible to watch, one dimensional, and relied on wingers endlessly whipping balls in.
Watching us under AM is exactly like watching that, except he took the balls from the wing out.
I wonder how MON would manage it without any wingers?
I imagine he'd at least try.
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2 shots on target in the last 135 minutes of football.
You really don't like us, do you?
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Need something in the half time tea.. what on earth is N'Zobia doing..not a lot. He has look of desperation when challenged. I thought he was bought as creative attacking player? Wha 'appen?
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o.k lets use this corner
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Bit of pressure in the last few mins
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Bannan is a lovely footballer, but he hardly has the ball. Petrov and Delph don't get the ball for us enough to be positive half the time.
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One of the worst first half's I've seen from Villa, terrible.
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2 shots on target in the last 135 minutes of football.
You really don't like us, do you?
Do you like the shit that's been served up so far this season?
I just can't decide who I want to fuck off the most, Lerner or McCleish.
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HT 0-0 minor miracle number one...
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2 shots on target in the last 135 minutes of football.
You really don't like us, do you?
The thing is, though, it's true.
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For all their domination of the match QPR have failed to force Seamus into any saves.
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One of the worst first half's I've seen from Villa, terrible.
better than the bolton game!
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One of the worst first half's I've seen from Villa, terrible.
very very poor...again
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Well it's time for me to go to work. Good luck chaps,
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if thats the best we can dish up, I really, really fear for us this season.
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Staying positive though. If we were QPR fans we would be sitting here saying we should have scored from one of those chances, missing those chances are going to cost us.
I am staying hopeful that it will!
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Woeful.
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Awful football, N'Zogbia and Ireland, beyond any words really.
Terrible game, only hope not to many laymen are watching this, painful.
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Grim, but at least we are still in it and QPR haven't been quite as omnipresent as Sky are trying to make out, dying as they are for QPR to win it. You just feel Bannan, Ireland and N'Zogbia need one moment collectively or individually for us to spark a bit into life
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MON's team was a high water mark of the last 15 years. This is bilge. If Houllier was the skipper of the Titanic, McLeish seems like a tugboat captain having a little jaunt around the harbour, looking at all the expensive yachts, but never taking us anywhere very exciting.
Then again, despite an awful first 40, we then go and create the best chance.
One of the worst first half's I've seen from Villa, terrible.
Since Tuesday night?
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It's a disappointing first half. We're unable to string two passes together. But it's not easy to play against a team like QPR, though. They give us no time on the ball. Maybe things will improve in the second half.
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2 shots on target in the last 135 minutes of football.
You really don't like us, do you?
Do you like the shit that's been served up so far this season?
I just can't decide who I want to fuck off the most, Lerner or McCleish.
I haven't liked the shit we've been served up for the last ten years but I'll still get behind the lads. Did you want Lerner to fuck off in January or any previous month since he joined us?
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The last five minutes were an improvement. Although that's not saying much.
We've got creative players in the middle today, but they might as well be at home watching Antiques Roadshow if we're not going to give the ball to them.
The tactic seems to be to hoof the ball away any time it comes into our box, and maybe Gabby will pick up some scraps. There's not much point laying into Bannan, Ireland or Delph (who I genuinely think hasn't touched the ball yet), as they can't do a lot while the ball's sailing over their heads.
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Can anyone think of a worse central midfield pairing in the prem than ours?
I honestly can't! The Wolves game yesterday was one of the best i've seen the season, proper football unlike our dross.
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Well it's time for me to go to work. Good luck chaps,
Think yourself lucky you may have had to watch Aston Villa for another 45mins.
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Yawn.
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Absolutely terrible.
Embarrassing.
No positives.
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We need to stop blaming individuals here, we have a midfield who should be very good when we have the ball, they can all pass and are all comfortable on the ball.
That none of them are doing this can only suggest that the game plan is keep our shape tight and make sure that if we lose the ball we've got the bank of 4 and 5 in place and are hard to pass through.
The lack of football on display is, in my opinion, 100% down to managerial and coaching decisions. We saw 3 1/2 seasons of the shit down the road trying to not concede and hope they took the 1-2 chances they got in a game, that tactic has been copied verbatim to Villa and we now experiencing the joys of playing in such a restrictive system.
Bannan, Nzog, Ireland and Delph in particular will never shine whilst we're playing this shit. To try playing a style that doesn't suit 4 of the 5 players you've started shows a complete lack of understanding of tactics that is pretty breath-taking considering this is a guy who has managed internationally.
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This has sneaky smash and grab away win written all over it. 0-1. Albrighton 90. This is definitely going to happen.
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cant believe what i am seeing, can we really be that bad ?
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if thats the best we can dish up, I really, really fear for us this season.
I have already accepted we are in a relegation battle and I truly think we will be. Once you've done this, you start to see the grimmest of grim defensive shut outs as quite positive....
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Nil Nil is what we are aspiring to..nil bl**dy desperandum!
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Did you want Lerner to fuck off in January or any previous month since he joined us?
Just when it became clear he didn't want to invest any more and he started selling off our best players without us actually replacing them.
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Were like a newly promoted team thats never been in the top flight, we've got a manager who's only aim is to avoid defeat, that may have been ok at Birmingham but it sure as hell won't do here, its embarrasing.
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This has sneaky smash and grab away win written all over it. 0-1. Albrighton 90. This is definitely going to happen.
Yeah but really, ffs. I'd rather we lose by 1 goal but put in a really good energetic effort than this complete b*ll*x
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Did you want Lerner to fuck off in January or any previous month since he joined us?
Just when it became clear he didn't want to invest any more and he started selling off our best players without us actually replacing them.
This is the match thread, talk about the match.
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We are more like 'nil by mouth' when I think of it!
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This hoofball bollocks is embarrassing
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Delph is useless as usual. Bring on Gardner.
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When did Barcelona move to West London and start wearing blue and white hoops?
For fuck's sake we're playing QPbastardR not Barcelona and we have absolutely no desire to go and try to win the game and we've settled for a point before a ball has been kicked. Given will be done for time wasting at some point.
We're woeful, truly fucking dire. If Y'Zogbia is worth close on £10m then I'm worth £5m. We're shit, truly shit. No passing, no movement. We get a throw in and just chuck it down the line and lose possession.
What do the coaches and players do all week. Songs of Praise is looking a better option at the moment.
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Cannot believe that Ireland is being singled out for criticism by some. How many attacking midfielders can do anything when their team can't get the ball? Petrov and Delph have been far more anonymous so far.
We are very very dull to watch. No wonder the QPR fans took the piss.
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All accompanied by the patronising nasal Mancunian whine and footballer's grammar of that arch tosser Gary Neville which makes it even worse than it is...
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Did you want Lerner to fuck off in January or any previous month since he joined us?
Just when it became clear he didn't want to invest any more and he started selling off our best players without us actually replacing them.
This is the match thread, talk about the match.
Sorry mod?
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I can't make out which is worse, either the players don't know what the manager requires of them or the manager simply doesn't require anything....
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We need to stop blaming individuals here, we have a midfield who should be very good when we have the ball, they can all pass and are all comfortable on the ball.
That none of them are doing this can only suggest that the game plan is keep our shape tight and make sure that if we lose the ball we've got the bank of 4 and 5 in place and are hard to pass through.
The lack of football on display is, in my opinion, 100% down to managerial and coaching decisions. We saw 3 1/2 seasons of the shit down the road trying to not concede and hope they took the 1-2 chances they got in a game, that tactic has been copied verbatim to Villa and we now experiencing the joys of playing in such a restrictive system.
Bannan, Nzog, Ireland and Delph in particular will never shine whilst we're playing this shit. To try playing a style that doesn't suit 4 of the 5 players you've started shows a complete lack of understanding of tactics that is pretty breath-taking considering this is a guy who has managed internationally.
We've been left with average players that's the problem! If they were any good they would have left or been snapped up by the bigger clubs already.
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Could easily been 1-0 up here. That was a great save by Kenny
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According to Gary 'Bumfluff' Neville in the Sky commentary box, Aston Villa should be grateful for a manager of the pedigree of Alex McLeish.
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I cant stand Collins' ineptitude to play a ball to feet. STOP LAUNCHING THE BALL 70 YARDS EVERY TIME YOU TOUCH IT, you dumb clown. Our midfield is a complete joke. I want Ireland to come good but christ mate you've got to move and create. He sits on his heels and reacts to every play, get involved and be proactive. Delph, ew terrible half. Atleast Bannan looks to be putting in a shift but his effort is getting us no where with no one around him.
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We need to stop blaming individuals here, we have a midfield who should be very good when we have the ball, they can all pass and are all comfortable on the ball.
That none of them are doing this can only suggest that the game plan is keep our shape tight and make sure that if we lose the ball we've got the bank of 4 and 5 in place and are hard to pass through.
The lack of football on display is, in my opinion, 100% down to managerial and coaching decisions. We saw 3 1/2 seasons of the shit down the road trying to not concede and hope they took the 1-2 chances they got in a game, that tactic has been copied verbatim to Villa and we now experiencing the joys of playing in such a restrictive system.
Bannan, Nzog, Ireland and Delph in particular will never shine whilst we're playing this shit. To try playing a style that doesn't suit 4 of the 5 players you've started shows a complete lack of understanding of tactics that is pretty breath-taking considering this is a guy who has managed internationally.
We been left with average players that's the problem! If they were any good they would have left or been snapped up y the bigger clubs already.
QPR have got even more average players than we have.....
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Crap
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Did you want Lerner to fuck off in January or any previous month since he joined us?
Just when it became clear he didn't want to invest any more and he started selling off our best players without us actually replacing them.
This is the match thread, talk about the match.
I wish there was more to talk about. QPR, fully of confidence, haven't really pushed us that much. It's taken us 40 minutes to decide we can actually beat this rabble.
Hopefully we'll see a more confident Villa second half. At least our fans there are supporting us.
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Delph won't make it, Gabby has no support. We will go into every game with an immobile bus parked in front of our goal.
Christ this is dire.
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According to Gary 'Bumfluff' Neville in the Sky commentary box, Aston Villa should be grateful for a manager of the pedigree of Alex McLeish.
According to Gary 'Bumfluff' Neville in the Sky commentary box, Aston Villa should be grateful for a manager of the pedigree of Alex McLeish.
I have cancelled Sky Sports and it kicks in in a couple of weeks so am quite pleased to be reminded of one of the myriad reasons I have done so....
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According to Gary 'Bumfluff' Neville in the Sky commentary box, Aston Villa should be grateful for a manager of the pedigree of Alex McLeish.
I heard that, can you believe that, have you ever heard such complete and utter cobblers in all your life, he's having a laugh.
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Afternoon all. Another dire half of football from McLeish's team. We are horrible to watch, absolutely dismal.
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Did you want Lerner to fuck off in January or any previous month since he joined us?
Just when it became clear he didn't want to invest any more and he started selling off our best players without us actually replacing them.
This is the match thread, talk about the match.
Sorry mod?
(snigger)
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We need to stop blaming individuals here, we have a midfield who should be very good when we have the ball, they can all pass and are all comfortable on the ball.
That none of them are doing this can only suggest that the game plan is keep our shape tight and make sure that if we lose the ball we've got the bank of 4 and 5 in place and are hard to pass through.
The lack of football on display is, in my opinion, 100% down to managerial and coaching decisions. We saw 3 1/2 seasons of the shit down the road trying to not concede and hope they took the 1-2 chances they got in a game, that tactic has been copied verbatim to Villa and we now experiencing the joys of playing in such a restrictive system.
Bannan, Nzog, Ireland and Delph in particular will never shine whilst we're playing this shit. To try playing a style that doesn't suit 4 of the 5 players you've started shows a complete lack of understanding of tactics that is pretty breath-taking considering this is a guy who has managed internationally.
We've been left with average players that's the problem! If they were any good they would have left or been snapped up by the bigger clubs already.
The squad is not strong enough, but currently we look like far less than the sum of the parts.
Man for man, our team is much better than QPR, on paper, but we seem to have gone down there looking to come away with a draw, and are showing zero attacking intent whatsoever.
I'll give AM time, as there's the possibility he's working on getting us playing another way, slim though it is, but the minute I start to believe that this is the way he actualy *wants* us to play is the minute I'm going to want him out.
I'd shudder to think that an Aston Villa side could actually be sent out and told to play like this.
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Cannot believe that Ireland is being singled out for criticism by some. How many attacking midfielders can do anything when their team can't get the ball? Petrov and Delph have been far more anonymous so far.
We are very very dull to watch. No wonder the QPR fans took the piss.
Delph and Petrov have been worse . Delph is worrying me . Get Gardner on instead .
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This has sneaky smash and grab away win written all over it. 0-1. Albrighton 90. This is definitely going to happen.
I hope you're right. Thing is though, if we do nick it, playing this way, will it just give McLeish some sort of justification in playing this shit football?
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Afternoon all. Another dire half of football from McLeish's team. We are horrible to watch, absolutely dismal.
It ain't eeven that good mate.
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Did you want Lerner to fuck off in January or any previous month since he joined us?
Just when it became clear he didn't want to invest any more and he started selling off our best players without us actually replacing them.
This is the match thread, talk about the match.
Sorry mod?
I just don't feel like starting this conversation. The topic of ownership has no business being in this thread right now. I don't feel like punching my coffee table anymore, my fist is killing me.
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Did you want Lerner to fuck off in January or any previous month since he joined us?
Just when it became clear he didn't want to invest any more and he started selling off our best players without us actually replacing them.
This is the match thread, talk about the match.
I wish there was more to talk about. QPR, fully of confidence, haven't really pushed us that much. It's taken us 40 minutes to decide we can actually beat this rabble.
Hopefully we'll see a more confident Villa second half. At least our fans there are supporting us.
That's the point, they are set up for this, they are no great shakes whatsoever, but they can put together some ball play and they fancy this.
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Afternoon all. Another dire half of football from McLeish's team. We are horrible to watch, absolutely dismal.
Is that a 'cut and paste' from every game you've posted on in the last 12 months? (winky)
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come on mcleish get them going like you did with your halftime team talk when were playing shit against Bolton
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I keep trying to convince myself that once we have sorted the defence and become hard to beat, we'll begin to be more progressive. I'm failing in that concept at the moment. Dire.
I was never his biggest fan, but how much would we give for NRC at the moment?
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Can we put Ray Wilkins in charge, he talks sense.
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Did you want Lerner to fuck off in January or any previous month since he joined us?
Just when it became clear he didn't want to invest any more and he started selling off our best players without us actually replacing them.
This is the match thread, talk about the match.
Sorry mod?
I just don't feel like starting this conversation. The topic of ownership has no business being in this thread right now. I don't feel like punching my coffee table anymore, my fist is killing me.
Just wait until somebody mentions Nobnobs.
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Find it very annoying that a player that goes by the name of Luke Young is playing like a demon him and Bothroyd head and shoulders above everybody else and yet Young was discarded.
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at least Beye earned his 50K with his neat little run down the wing!
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Friedel has worked it out , someone tell the manager .
Whats the point playing Ireland If the defence just hoofs it up over his head ..
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If we can get gabby involved in play more, we can win this. We've come into it in the last 10 minutes. But what a shite start to the game. Need to have a good start to the next half
Wilkins is right, were not playing football properly. Too much hoofing involved
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It pisses me off to see players from opposite sides hugging each other, mates they maybe but you need to be ruthless and focused on matchday.
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Whats the point in playing one up front,when your midfielders are always 40 yards off him. This is down to the manager,the starting positions of players is his doing. If Warnock can get his team to play passing and movement football,then we really are fucked with McCleish.
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Anyone got a stream?
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Find it very annoying that a player that goes by the name of Luke Young is playing like a demon him and Bothroyd head and shoulders above everybody else and yet Young was discarded.
"It was a move of convenience" - AMc
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Cannot believe that Ireland is being singled out for criticism by some. How many attacking midfielders can do anything when their team can't get the ball? Petrov and Delph have been far more anonymous so far.
We are very very dull to watch. No wonder the QPR fans took the piss.
Delph and Petrov have been worse . Delph is worrying me . Get Gardner on instead .
I like your thinking.
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Did anybody truly expect anything different? still think we will sneak a totally undeserved one nil though. when did it become embarrasing to support Aston villa?
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I keep trying to convince myself that once we have sorted the defence and become hard to beat, we'll begin to be more progressive. I'm failing in that concept at the moment. Dire.
I was never his biggest fan, but how much would we give for NRC at the moment?
NRC looked dire yesterday but we need a leader from somewhere in midfield.
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According to Gary 'Bumfluff' Neville in the Sky commentary box, Aston Villa should be grateful for a manager of the pedigree of Alex McLeish.
The perception of the whole club has fallen dramatically over the past year.
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If we can get gabby involved in play more, we can win this. We've come into it in the last 10 minutes. But what a shite start to the game. Need to have a good start to the next half
Wilkins is right, were not playing football properly. Too much hoofing involved
Well, Wilkins has got that right, We aren't playing football properly.
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Fucking hell, passing and a chance.
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COME ON VILLA!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Fukin Delph.
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Did anybody truly expect anything different? still think we sneak a totally undeserved one nil though. when did it become embarrasing to support Aston villa?
No, must admit I had this down to a loss, but you live in hopes.
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woeful challenge from Hutton.
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Hutton is garbage also.
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Hutton isn't great at all. The QPR fans chanting 'boring boring Villa' was quite hurtful too.
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That was a good example, N'Zogbia does well, then has to wait half an hour for someone to get into space to support him.
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Herd plays a blinder a few weeks back,now were stuck with this piece of shit.
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It's no exageration to say the opening 4 minutes of this half have been better than the whole of the last.
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Anyone got a stream?
http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/82673/1/watch-queens-park-rangers-vs-aston-villa.html
drop-outs and ad's..but works
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Did anybody truly expect anything different? still think we will sneak a totally undeserved one nil though. when did it become embarrasing to support Aston villa?
Its not embarrassing, its just incredibly dull.
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That was a good example, N'Zogbia does well, then has to wait half an hour for someone to get into space to support him.
You can tell it frustrates him too.
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Anyone got a stream?
http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/82673/1/watch-queens-park-rangers-vs-aston-villa.html
drop-outs
Quite a good description of our players.
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Hutton isn't great at all. The QPR fans chanting 'boring boring Villa' was quite hurtful too.
If I heard it correctly the Villa fans actually joined in.
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thanks
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The lack of movement infront of the back 4 when we pick the ball up deep is frightful.
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we are average this half but 1000 % better than the first half
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Shades of GT second time around or DOL in that first half. Nada.
Second half we're at least playing with a bit more intent.
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Hutton isn't great at all. The QPR fans chanting 'boring boring Villa' was quite hurtful too.
If I heard it correctly the Villa fans actually joined in.
Did they? Ouch!
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Well we've actually turned up a bit, by trying to pass it.
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Hutton isn't great at all. The QPR fans chanting 'boring boring Villa' was quite hurtful too.
If I heard it correctly the Villa fans actually joined in.
How did you hear that............
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wake up Petrov
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We are ALL over them now!!!!!!
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Fuck me, that was close.
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Petrov looks really up for it now. He's kind of our Mr. Aston Villa now.
Come on villa...how the feck did that not go in????? Playing better.
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Damn it!
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Fuccccck!!!!!!!!!!!
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bloody hell
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N'Zogbia is a poor excuse for a footballer. I can't believe Whelan mugged us for £10m.
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Great ball by Bannan, Delph should have scored.
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Lovely pass from Bannan.
He and Ireland exerting some influence now.
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They've had most of the game but we have had all the good chances.
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Great ball from Bannan, Awful finish from Delph
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Tell me how that two footed high late challenge from Paddy Kenny on Delph after the shot isn't a penalty????
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This is better. Now all we have to do is score...
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ireland has come alive
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this is better Ireland and Bannan combining better
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wake up Petrov
Don't diss Petrov. He is by far the least of our problems.
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G Neville: Twat.
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Penalty!
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penalty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Penalty!
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Pen ?
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Ha ha ha, what the fuck?
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peanltY!
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pen?
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whats happened pen
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Penalty!!!!!!!
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Penalty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Penalty?
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lol
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Penalty...........
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haha!
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well well that's some decision
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Come on!
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Never a penalty but we'll take it
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come on bazza
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Fuck off Ferdinand you ugly fucker
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come on bananaman
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What the hell did he see? I think we've stolen one here.
Make the most of it Bannan!
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Come on son...
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Get in Bazza!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Barry....yessssssssssssssssss!
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Woot
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Yesssss
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Well done Bannan.
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Fuck me !!!!!!!!
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Well bugger me.
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yesss get in
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That is probably the best pen I have seen a Villa player take since Allan Evans!
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Get in Bannan good bottle
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We can't just sit back now, we must keep playing as we were and get the insurance goal.
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good penalty, put it in the corner, always tough for the keeper.
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Get in. Where the hell was this in the first half?
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Daylight fucking robbery for once, I can't remember the last time we got one like that.
Excellently placed as well.
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Boring, boring Villa!
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can't believe how calm bazza looked for that pen
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Playing much better this last 15 minutes. Bannan and even Ireland doing well in midfield.
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We just made a really nice passing move. See if we pass we can play.
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I'm really not enjoying Mr Neville's insight today - nothing interesting to add and talking a load of bull.
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This is the strangest refereeing performance I've seen since that European game years back. Can't remember who it was against. Celta Vigo?
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Getting players in front of the ball when we are in possession. Revolutionary.
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There was no need to tug gabbys shirt then. No matter how much contact there was there was no need for any. Great penno though
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Keeping and passing the ball + winning away = a darn good day!
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great save shay
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Long 20 minutes ahead I fear!
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Great save Shay.
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That was Shay's first save of the game as far as I can tell.
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great save from Shay. Come on villa,
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come on villa, we've got these in our pockets
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hope we dont start to try and defend the 1-0 now
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awful challenge Petrov.
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Playing much better this last 15 minutes. Bannan and even Ireland doing well in midfield.
They are, aren't they. Two true footballers.
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Link is at least 5mins behind real time..but YESSS..
Let's get another..N'Zogbia is playing for first time!! We can do it..another one to be sure!
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QPR fans are agitated
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Save Shay.
Back to the Penalty. There was a shirt pull and it was slightly soft but it was Nevilles assertion of he would have hated if it had gone against him, as if something like that would ever be given against a Manure player.
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Gonna be worth 10 points atleast this season atleast Shay Given a quality keeper.
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handball
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Could have been a penalty against us there.
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Is Lady Luck smiling on us for a change????
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We're getting all of our luck in one game here.
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Why take Bannan off?
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That was a pen for them.
Lucky.
Albrighton on for Bannan.... need to get the ball into their half!
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what the fuck get Nzogbia off!
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Albrighton for Bannan? Just hope the Zog goes inside.
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Is Lady Luck smiling on us for a change????
No. The ref is though!
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He made no movement to the ball, never a pen! :P
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Disappointed to see Bannan come off, our Man of the Match.
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I thought the ref would give them a Pen to even it up but he missed his chance ;-)
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Albrighton for Bannan? Just hope the Zog goes inside.
You mean back to the changing room? ;)
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Why the hell has Bannan come off instead of the woeful N'Zogbia?
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i spy with my little eye, something beginning with "TWENTY MINUTES OF HANGING ON DESPERATELY"
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That was a pen for them.
Lucky.
Why? Hutton never moved his arm at the ball and it was blasted so hard at him he couldn't have moved it out the way.
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Neville shut the fook up .. dont tug the shirt then
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Is that Given shouting like someone has kicked him in the balls.
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God Neville is doing my head in.
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WTF is Gary Neville on about he pulled his shirt FFS!!!! Must agree with their fans though, he is "just another shit ref"
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That was a pen for them.
Lucky.
Why? Hutton never moved his arm at the ball and it was blasted so hard at him he couldn't have moved it out the way.
It was headed, meakly, and he should have got his hand out the way.
All them now.
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Albrighton for Bannan? Just hope the Zog goes inside.
You mean back to the changing room? ;)
He's far from my favourite but he's been okay today, which by his recent standards, is fucking revolutionary.
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Ball just doesn't seem to stick up top when Gabby gets it at all.
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Albrighton for Bannan? Just hope the Zog goes inside.
You mean back to the changing room? ;)
He's far from my favourite but he's been okay today, which by his recent standards, is fucking revolutionary.
I think he's done better today, too
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How was that not a foul on the edge of the box?
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ferdinand fook off u ugly twat . sorry mods
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Gabby really having to feed off scraps.
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racking up the yellow cards
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If Neville says one more time "I wouldn't have been happy if that been given against me" then I'm going to go fucking postal. Of course you wouldn't, you were a cheating Manc twat.
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We need more fresh legs here. Ireland maybe off for Gardner?
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I've got to say Anton Ferdinand is a cock of the highest order. Talk about having a career because of who your big brother is.
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So the ref books Gabby for letting Ferdinand retaliate against him?
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Absolutely horrendous free kick.
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WTF from Warnock
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Albrighton for Bannan? Just hope the Zog goes inside.
You mean back to the changing room? ;)
He's far from my favourite but he's been okay today, which by his recent standards, is fucking revolutionary.
I think he's done better today, too
I think he's awful. He never, ever makes the right decision.
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We need more fresh legs here. Ireland maybe off for Gardner?
Or N'Zog. Really want to see young Gaz get a run out.
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Such a fucking waste Warnock.
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Gary neville really hates us for some reason. Have we done something to him?
The bad thing about him retiring is we have to listen to his shite week in week out.
Qpr fans are annoying me too
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Collins has been immense today.
Come on my Villa boys!!!!!!
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We need more fresh legs here. Ireland maybe off for Gardner?
Or N'Zog. Really want to see young Gaz get a run out.
Me too. Plus think we need the legs now. If we had Heskey he would be on now to hold it a little. NZogbia has rubbish control.
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Albrighton for Bannan? Just hope the Zog goes inside.
how I see it. Good on the ball but fucks it up everytime.
You mean back to the changing room? ;)
He's far from my favourite but he's been okay today, which by his recent standards, is fucking revolutionary.
I think he's done better today, too
I think he's awful. He never, ever makes the right decision.
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Blimey, I agree with Neville for once. We have defended well, credit especially to Collins and Dunne. Keep it going.
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N'Zogbia is about 15% as effective as Ashley Young. Maybe he'll come good eventually but needs to pull his socks up
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10 mins of torture ahead..but we can get another one if keep up pressure.
come on VILLA!!
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Wrong ball Albrighton
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Another yellow.
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ferdinand fook off u ugly twat . sorry mods
well he is ugly but I guess that is not his fault . Being a twat is.
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Fucking hell Warnock, if we concede from here.
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Christ, how many bookings are we going to pick up today.
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anyone get the feeling the ref will want to even this up ?
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not sure which will be first a goal from them or a sending of from us!
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Don't need anyone sent off now!
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Warnock gives away a free kick for being ran in to. Heh.
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How many does he give away a game!
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Why are we so insistent on giving away dangerous free kicks?
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Delphs big problem . Losing possession instaed of the simple ball
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Fucking hell think Collins.
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Fucking hell Villa. Deserve to concede with all these stupid fucking fouls, pillocks.
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We're doing our best to throw this away.
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Bastards trying to get us sent off.
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Giving away stupid free kicks now.
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How mant in the range free kicks are we going to concede?
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too much fouling, we don't need to do it
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We're going to get a man sent off I reckon.
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Go on Andreas.
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Nice move, Eck.
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Weimann on for N'zogbia.
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Weimann on for N'Zog.
Lets see what he can do.
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I thought Weimann was a striker, not a midfielder with attacking intent as described by Tyler.
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When we gonna see gardener come on!
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why not keep it in the corner...?
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Delph has lost the ball countless times today. Bad, really bad. Need him to pull his socks up for me.
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tempting fate, but QPR are shit at free kicks
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Cameron saying to his kid we can do this
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Shock... another free kick to QPR.
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six yellows..careful lads!!
we can hang on for 5 mins; can't we?
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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
That was a stonewall penalty.
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unlucky Villa
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this ref must be a Tory
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ohhhh unlucky gabby well done warnock
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Less of a pen than the last one for me...
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Cameron's paid the ref...
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I would be more than a little pissed off with this ref it I were a QPR fan, as I am not, well done!
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Delph always makes the wrong decision.
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Cameron's paid the ref...
His salary is less than most of our players earn in a couple of weeks.
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red ha ha
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lol
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I can't believe they have the first red card as well.
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I love this ref
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Fook back off to the championship
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5 mins over !!!!
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5 mins where from
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this ref must be a Tory
"The referee's a banker".
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See what 'Colin' says about that. No doubt the referee will be wrong.
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I can't wait for Warnock's interview, I love it when he feels hard done by.
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after the stick i gave ireland for bolton, hes been okay today shown some nice neat play not brilliant but better
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Gabby seems to have seen 90 mins and decided to stop.
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come marc wrong choice
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I actually think Ireland has been decent this half.
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How much injury time?
Can't handle this..
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FF fooking sake
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Fuck off.
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FOR FUCKS SAKE
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shit
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Fuck me. Fucking hell.
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Fuck, own goal Dunne.
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Bollox!!!!!!!!!!!
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So fuckin typical.
Can't say its undeserved.
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Shit. You fucking cock Warnock.
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What a fucking surprise.
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Fuckity-Fuck.
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Obviously.
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Fuck the bed.
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ffs
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Well would you bleeding believe it.
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so typical
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Oh fuck it. That is really unlucky. Shit happens.
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fucking typical no more than QPR deserved though
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Bound to happen as soon as he got man of the match.
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Football karma.
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Shit. You fucking cock Warnock.
collins at fault for me
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Is it bad that I had a fair bit of money on a draw and am moderately pleased?
Fucks sake Dunne :(
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Shit. You fucking cock Warnock.
In fairness it was brilliant defending by Warnock.
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Oh dear oh dear..just when thought safe..always the same..!!
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My mistake it came off Dunne. Warnock has still been bloody useless today.
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Hutton and Collins at fault for that mainly. Collins for not dealing with it and Hutton not tracking back. Can't blame Warnock and Dunne at all.
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Is it bad that I had a fair bit of money on a draw and am moderately pleased?
Fucks sake Dunne :(
Not Dunnes fault it was collins
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Hutton has had an absolute shocker.
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not sure where the 5 came from , but fook , got unlucky at the end
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Utter rubbish.
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A throw in on the edge of their box, and noone runs in to space, they just stand in their spots waiting for the final whistle. Bunch of ******.
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Well there you go. Still unbeaten...
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Football is a bitch of a mistress
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I agree Warnock almost came to Collins rescue for the goal. If it hadn't of clipped Dunne it would have been an oustanding goal saving tackle. It was just desperately unlucky.
Fair play for the second half performance.
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Pissing about at corner and losing possesion was the problem
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Dunne to the rescue again. Given might save us ten points but Dunne will even that up.
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Unlucky goal, but really, a point more than we deserve on the balance of play, even taking into account the much improved second half spell
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Why? Why, why why do we always fuck about at the end. It was fairly clear that we were at risk, yet we mess about in the corner and end up throwing 2 points away.
We must beat Wigan next week, for my sanity if nothing else.
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Pissing about at corner and losing possesion was the problem
Yup.
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We'll be odds on with St William for draws all season..what are we doing to ourselves? 40pts is on cards..and poss less of course! 40pts is a dangerous target!
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I wasn't able to be on the match thread today, but I came on to read the last few pages and you didn't dissapoint lads, well done with a great array of "fuck", "bollocks" etc..... lovely stuff, in an agaonising and predictable way.