Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Chico Hamilton III on September 17, 2011, 09:21:53 PM
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Anyone hear Clegg's light-hearted dig at Cameron in his conference speech in Brum today. He said that Cameron supports Aston Villa for the same reason that anyone else supports a football team...because his uncle "owned" the club.
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That comes from someone that obviously doesn't understand loyalty.
Mind you I'm now going to check through our family records to see if any of my uncles actually owned The Villa instead of just owning shares.
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It pains me to say but I sympathise with Cameron. His uncle owing the Villa must have been the only exposure "Little Lord Fontilroy" ever had to the working man's game. I myself support the Villa because my Dad, Grandad and Great Grandad did so. Fair play to Dave, he supports us for the same reason.
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can you imagine what people on here would say about Dave if he supported Manure or Chelsea
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can you imagine what people on here would say about Dave if he supported Manure or Chelsea
Exactly what I'm about to type..........he's an upper class bastard with no idea about what the rest of us are going through.
We're all in this together? You're having a laugh Cameron.
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Clegg himself is guilty of trying to jump on the pop culture bandwagon. Remember when he said his favourite album of all time was David Bowie's Changes? Prick.
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public school boy tory prick
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Clegg himself is guilty of trying to jump on the pop culture bandwagon. Remember when he said his favourite album of all time was David Bowie's Changes? Prick.
"Favourite Beatles album? I'd have to say... The Best Of The Beatles"
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public school boy tory prick
Which one?
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This is Clegg who went to Westminster School who has admitted his father got him a job
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Westminster School where the annual fees are exactly the same as the fees at Eton.
Even from a proven hypocritical prick like Clegg, that takes some beating.
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Cameron. Clegg. Ed Millibean.
Every one of them climbed the greasy pole as a SPAD (Special Political Advisor to a minister) having been privately educated, then graduated from Oxford. (or Cambridge in Clegg's case.)
I find it very worrying that the political leaders of all the three main parties have absolutely no experience of life as we know it. They really might as well have just arrived on the starship Enterprise.
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Cameron. Clegg. Ed Millibean.
Every one of them climbed the greasy pole as a SPAD (Special Political Advisor to a minister) having been privately educated, then graduated from Oxford. (or Cambridge in Clegg's case.)
I find it very worrying that the political leaders of all the three main parties have absolutely no experience of life as we know it. They really might as well have just arrived on the starship Enterprise.
Miliband went to a state school.
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Cameron. Clegg. Ed Millibean.
Every one of them climbed the greasy pole as a SPAD (Special Political Advisor to a minister) having been privately educated, then graduated from Oxford. (or Cambridge in Clegg's case.)
I find it very worrying that the political leaders of all the three main parties have absolutely no experience of life as we know it. They really might as well have just arrived on the starship Enterprise.
Miliband went to a state school.
My mistake, you're right, he went to a comprehensive school. However, my point is that his subsequent career has followed a similar path to the other two, in that they have all existed pretty much in a political bubble since leaving university, a world that is totally foreign to almost all of the population.
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What this country needs is a fat grumpy Raith Rovers fan in Number 10.
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What this country needs is a fat grumpy Raith Rovers fan in Number 10.
Agreed Andy - that would really have them celebrating in the pubs and clubs of Raith.
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Or maybe a psuedo Geordie who watched Jacki Milburn. Or reckoned he did.
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Or maybe a psuedo Geordie who watched Jacki Milburn. Or reckoned he did.
No he didn't (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7749778.stm)
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I don't think you can blame Clegg for his upbringing, and I've never quite understood the antipathy to Oxford and Cambridge when they have a much higher percentage of state admissions than many other Russell Group universities (and they are the best and make you work like an absolute bastard, so good luck to them). Maybe Clegg does like David Bowie, maybe his digs at Cameron hint that he is actually fighting for his causes.
Then again, as a lifelong liberal and most-life party member, I literally hate him.
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It's not really about having a go at Clegg for his upbringing, though, it is the hypocrisy of him having a pop at Camerons, implying it is massively out of touch with society as a whole, when his own isn't that much less out of touch.
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I agree with Monty. We should be careful to avoid inverse snobbery. Lots of people from privileged backgrounds have supported working class rights: (Earl) Bertrand Russell, Tony Benn, Marx, Engels, &c.
The only criterion when judging Cameron (and Clegg) should be whether or not he is doing a good job.
As for Clegg’s quip, it wasn’t hypocritical it was a joke, and a mildly amusing one at that.
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There's a protest against the cuts in Brum today if anyone fancies shouting at Cleggy and co.
Might pop along, I love a good protest me.
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I sometimes long for the days when a politician's support of a football team was at best irrelevant, or better still, would be seen as a hindrance when canvassing votes in the shires.
Cameron doesn't support the Villa in any sense that we understand it (neither, for that matter, does the Duke of Cambridge), so there is really no point in it being mentioned.
As for someone's alma mater, I think it is perfectly reasonable for someone to have an Eton and Oxford education and also to be a passionate football supporter, just as the product of your "bog standard" inner-city comp might hate the game. What gets me, is the seeming need for everyone to have a favourite team whether they actually do or not.
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If his political loyalty is anything to go by, I'd imagine Clegg was a long time Liverpool supporter who realising they weren't not going to win anything, now supports Man United.
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Cameron. Clegg. Ed Millibean.
Every one of them climbed the greasy pole as a SPAD (Special Political Advisor to a minister) having been privately educated, then graduated from Oxford. (or Cambridge in Clegg's case.)
I find it very worrying that the political leaders of all the three main parties have absolutely no experience of life as we know it. They really might as well have just arrived on the starship Enterprise.
I'd much rather the leader of our country's government have had the best education possible than have dropped out of a shitty state school at 16 with no GCSEs.
Just because they've not been a metal-basher in the Black Country doesn't mean they can't do the job of leading the government. Equally, just because they lead the government doesn't mean they make all the decisions or come up with all the ideas. That's why we have a government and not a President.
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can you imagine what people on here would say about Dave if he supported Manure or Chelsea
:o
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Cameron. Clegg. Ed Millibean.
Every one of them climbed the greasy pole as a SPAD (Special Political Advisor to a minister) having been privately educated, then graduated from Oxford. (or Cambridge in Clegg's case.)
I find it very worrying that the political leaders of all the three main parties have absolutely no experience of life as we know it. They really might as well have just arrived on the starship Enterprise.
I'd much rather the leader of our country's government have had the best education possible than have dropped out of a shitty state school at 16 with no GCSEs.
Just because they've not been a metal-basher in the Black Country doesn't mean they can't do the job of leading the government. Equally, just because they lead the government doesn't mean they make all the decisions or come up with all the ideas. That's why we have a government and not a President.
Just because they have been to best paid for education at the best schools in the country also doesn't make them in any way qualified to lead a piss up in a brewery let alone a country, in fact most of them that have such a closeted education are biggest thickest shit heads on the planet, what is does teach them is where to buy the best suits, how to carry yourself and how to be very plausible.....
Don't hold any water with me i'm afraid, they are all lying mother **ckers as far as I'm concerned.
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Cameron. Clegg. Ed Millibean.
Every one of them climbed the greasy pole as a SPAD (Special Political Advisor to a minister) having been privately educated, then graduated from Oxford. (or Cambridge in Clegg's case.)
I find it very worrying that the political leaders of all the three main parties have absolutely no experience of life as we know it. They really might as well have just arrived on the starship Enterprise.
I'd much rather the leader of our country's government have had the best education possible than have dropped out of a shitty state school at 16 with no GCSEs.
Just because they've not been a metal-basher in the Black Country doesn't mean they can't do the job of leading the government. Equally, just because they lead the government doesn't mean they make all the decisions or come up with all the ideas. That's why we have a government and not a President.
Just because they have been to best paid for education at the best schools in the country also doesn't make them in any way qualified to lead a piss up in a brewery let alone a country, in fact most of them that have such a closeted education are biggest thickest shit heads on the planet, what is does teach them is where to buy the best suits, how to carry yourself and how to be very plausible.....
Don't hold any water with me i'm afraid, they are all lying mother **ckers as far as I'm concerned.
Are you talking about Oxbridge as well as private schools? Because if you are, congratulations on being the most wrong person ever.
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This just about sums up my impression of Mr Clegg
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I actually met a proper, old school land-owning Tory last weekend, whose kids were both "at boarding school". When I asked which one, she replied "Eton". I have never, ever met anybody in my life who I had so little in common with, and who I found so very objectionable. Perhaps there's hope for me yet.