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Title: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on September 12, 2011, 07:28:29 AM
Kevin MacDonald is set for a first team coaching role, after Alex McLeish confirmed changes to his backroom staff.

MacDonald will now work alongside assistant manager Peter Grant and coach Gordon Cowans with the first team, while a fellow academy coach - yet to be decided - will be elevated to the permanent role with the reserves.

McLeish also announced Tony Gennoe as the new first team goalkeeping coach.

Gennoe, who previously worked alongside Kenny Dalglish at Blackburn, Celtic and Newcastle, comes in until the end of the season.

The 58-year-old, from Shrewsbury, will work with Shay Given, Brad Guzan, Andy Marshall and Elliot Parish.

McLeish admits he is excited about the changes.

He said: "I've changed the coaching staff round a little bit. We've enhanced it.

"We've got Sid there and Peter obviously, my assistant, and I've promoted Kevin to help with the first team as well.

"At a club like this we need all the best coaches we can get.

"Kevin is great and so is Sid, who is quietly effective in terms of saying the right things to the young ones. They've got a lot of respect for him.

"A lot of them have grown up with Kevin too and he's definitely got something to add to the team in terms of the information and his knowledge.

"We'll now promote someone from within for the reserves.

"We've got a new goalie coach in Terry, who will be on the staff until the end of the season at least and then we'll assess things.

"Terry worked with Shay for a long time and is a bit of a mentor for him.

"There are a couple of goalie coaches out there that Shay has worked with. But we know that Terry has great qualities.

"We did a bit of diligence on him and I've had great feedback from people like Kenny Dalglish.

"Trust is very important and loyalty's very important - no doubt about it. But more importantly, they have the credentials and they know what they're talking about."

Hopefully this will bring about the changes to get the best out of what we have available!
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: VillaAlways on September 12, 2011, 08:32:01 AM
Great news Re KMac.Another good decision by our manager
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: brian green on September 12, 2011, 08:35:06 AM
About bloody time
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: richard moore on September 12, 2011, 08:37:31 AM
Someone give me a shout when we start playing some attractive, pass and move, intelligent football in that case...I won't hold my breath though
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: andrew08 on September 12, 2011, 08:47:14 AM
Someone give me a shout when we start playing some attractive, pass and move, intelligent football in that case...I won't hold my breath though

Second goal on Saturday ?
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: Dave Clark Five on September 12, 2011, 09:01:51 AM
I wondered why Kevin Mac was on the field with the players on Saturday. Good move in my view.
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: Matt C on September 12, 2011, 09:26:07 AM
Good move.

So presumably if we've got a new goalkeeping coach McLeish has got rid of the French guy?
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: UsualSuspect on September 12, 2011, 09:26:47 AM
Someone give me a shout when we start playing some attractive, pass and move, intelligent football in that case...I won't hold my breath though

Seconded

I know BB has just been man of the match for the Sweaties but I know I'll start with Ivanhoe.

All the coaching in the world can't remedy that
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: KRS on September 12, 2011, 09:33:09 AM
Good move as long as changes bring better performances and results.
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 12, 2011, 09:36:59 AM
Someone give me a shout when we start playing some attractive, pass and move, intelligent football in that case...I won't hold my breath though

Seconded

I know BB has just been man of the match for the Sweaties but I know I'll start with Ivanhoe.
All the coaching in the world can't remedy that

I bet you two are fun at a party.

Having an extra coach does suggest that AMc and his team will be working a lot more with the players in the future (certainly compared to MON's two hour training sessions).  I think it is vitally important that extra time is invested in a young squad as they need tactical debriefing etc if they are to get better.  It also mirror's AMc's post match comments where he stressed a couple of times that he thought he could get a bit more out of the players.

In an ideal world we'd obviously be buying a few more "finished articles" but in this world the extra coaching and apparent work ethic of AMc will hopefully see us improve.
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: Nev on September 12, 2011, 09:44:03 AM
I was only saying last week that in order to succeed McLeish needs staff who can train the players to play an effective form of attacking football. All the evidence is that the manager can manage a decent defence, foster a good team spirit, but tactically, from the edge of the 18 yard box forward, is utterly clueless.

This is an interesting move.
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: UK Redsox on September 12, 2011, 10:14:11 AM
I kind of assumed that Sid was in charge of "attacking" training.
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: Mazrim on September 12, 2011, 10:21:02 AM
I think this is a great idea but the main benefit is that KMac has worked with and is very familiar with many of the players coming through to the first team now. As well as Sid of course.
This can only be a good thing.
He's also a good coach and the players love him

I'm guessing Tony Mac or Bryan Jones will be the new reserves boss.
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 12, 2011, 10:26:59 AM
It does create space further down the club too so a good opportunity to groom one of our more promising ex-players.
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: Merv on September 12, 2011, 10:28:09 AM
Ah, I thought something had happened when I saw Kev Mac sitting on the dugout on Saturday. I'm sharp like that. Him and Sid in the first team coaching set-up now - I like it.

Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: PeterWithe on September 12, 2011, 10:36:58 AM
Isn't it 'Terry' Gennoe if its the old Blackburn keeper?
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: UsualSuspect on September 12, 2011, 11:02:23 AM
Someone give me a shout when we start playing some attractive, pass and move, intelligent football in that case...I won't hold my breath though

Seconded

I know BB has just been man of the match for the Sweaties but I know I'll start with Ivanhoe.
All the coaching in the world can't remedy that

I bet you two are fun at a party.

Having an extra coach does suggest that AMc and his team will be working a lot more with the players in the future (certainly compared to MON's two hour training sessions).  I think it is vitally important that extra time is invested in a young squad as they need tactical debriefing etc if they are to get better.  It also mirror's AMc's post match comments where he stressed a couple of times that he thought he could get a bit more out of the players.

In an ideal world we'd obviously be buying a few more "finished articles" but in this world the extra coaching and apparent work ethic of AMc will hopefully see us improve.

So by that I assume that you would rather heskey start above bannan?

heskey should be nowhere near our first team

Don't forget the magical signing of hutton who really impressed

Far too many if's and ands, just get used to us playing horrible and uninspiring football for the remainder of AM's contract
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: VillaAlways on September 12, 2011, 11:22:09 AM
Someone give me a shout when we start playing some attractive, pass and move, intelligent football in that case...I won't hold my breath though

Seconded

I know BB has just been man of the match for the Sweaties but I know I'll start with Ivanhoe.
All the coaching in the world can't remedy that

I bet you two are fun at a party.

Having an extra coach does suggest that AMc and his team will be working a lot more with the players in the future (certainly compared to MON's two hour training sessions).  I think it is vitally important that extra time is invested in a young squad as they need tactical debriefing etc if they are to get better.  It also mirror's AMc's post match comments where he stressed a couple of times that he thought he could get a bit more out of the players.

In an ideal world we'd obviously be buying a few more "finished articles" but in this world the extra coaching and apparent work ethic of AMc will hopefully see us improve.

So by that I assume that you would rather heskey start above bannan?

heskey should be nowhere near our first team

Don't forget the magical signing of hutton who really impressed

Far too many if's and ands, just get used to us playing horrible and uninspiring football for the remainder of AM's contract

Your glass is definitely half empty isn't it ?
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: richardhubbard on September 12, 2011, 11:46:29 AM
Good move starting to like Mcleish
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 12, 2011, 11:56:20 AM
Good move starting to like Mcleish

He is doing a lot right in my opinion.  The huge elephant in the room is the perseverance with Heskey though.  There are some legitimate justifications for the selection but having Bannan there would make us so much better to watch (even if we lost more often) and would really get the monkey off his back about being a dull/conservative manager.  But of course, proving a small section of the Villa fan-base wrong should not be his objective.
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: Chris Smith on September 12, 2011, 12:09:31 PM
A positive move that as usual is turned in an excuse to air the same old gripes.
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: Chris Smith on September 12, 2011, 12:12:28 PM
Reports suggested Jenas was due to start in place of Heskey on Saturday. When he was unfit it seemed sensible to put him back in for his physical presence. The way we were subsequently out muscled supports that choice.
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: VillaAlways on September 12, 2011, 12:18:34 PM
Reports suggested Jenas was due to start in place of Heskey on Saturday. When he was unfit it seemed sensible to put him back in for his physical presence. The way we were subsequently out muscled supports that choice.
Which makes complete sense.Some people would much rather use the inclusion of Heskey as a stick to beat the manager with

Anyway reports suggest that both Jenas and Heskey will be out for up to weeks which will give Bannan his chance to shine
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: not3bad on September 12, 2011, 12:58:47 PM
reports suggest that both Jenas and Heskey will be out for up to weeks

How many weeks?

But regarding the coaching changes this seems to be a positive move to me.  It strikes me that Mcleish has the right intentions over Villa's style and effectiveness.  Guess we'll have to wait and see if these intentions bear fruit.
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: VillaAlways on September 12, 2011, 01:00:55 PM
reports suggest that both Jenas and Heskey will be out for up to weeks

How many weeks?

But regarding the coaching changes this seems to be a positive move to me.  It strikes me that Mcleish has the right intentions over Villa's style and effectiveness.  Guess we'll have to wait and see if these intentions bear fruit.

Sorry, two weeks
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 12, 2011, 01:02:02 PM
About bloody time

Indeed. Anybody who has ever seen our Reserves play will soon see how we play with a lot more style than the first team. I highly rate Kevin Mac as a coach and wanted him brought in to work with the first team under MON instead of Dumb and Dumber. It's a shame MON never saw it that way, though to his credit he did bring in KMac on last years pre-season, just before he ran away.

MacDonald will do a great job getting us playing the ball on the ground, passing, moving plus like Sid he has the respect of the younger players. It's a positive and intelligent step by McLeish and I for one fully support it as I suspect will the players.
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on September 12, 2011, 01:44:13 PM
Good move, Kev Mac always gets the kids playing good football, lets hope he can help with the first team
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: Simon Ward on September 12, 2011, 02:09:26 PM
I think this is a great idea but the main benefit is that KMac has worked with and is very familiar with many of the players coming through to the first team now. As well as Sid of course.
This can only be a good thing.
He's also a good coach and the players love him

I'm guessing Tony Mac or Bryan Jones will be the new reserves boss.

Continuity
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: The Left Side on September 12, 2011, 09:10:55 PM
Well done AM!
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: woody4866 on September 12, 2011, 10:00:52 PM
[MacDonald will do a great job getting us playing the ball on the ground, passing, moving plus like Sid he has the respect of the younger players. It's a positive and intelligent step by McLeish and I for one fully support it as I suspect will the players.
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seconded
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on September 12, 2011, 10:06:40 PM
Let hope it will encourage more football with Alex McLeish's tough spine/defence. If we get the football right we will be good team. I hope it will means more playing games for young guns.
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 13, 2011, 09:55:30 AM
Let hope it will encourage more football with Alex McLeish's tough spine/defence. If we get the football right we will be good team. I hope it will means more playing games for young guns.

It'll certainly help the youngsters having a guy who trusts them and has seen what they can do being one of the key decision makers.
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: sidcowans10 on September 13, 2011, 10:04:14 AM
A good move I think !!
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: russon on September 13, 2011, 10:32:44 AM
Someone give me a shout when we start playing some attractive, pass and move, intelligent football in that case...I won't hold my breath though

Seconded

I bet you two are fun at a party.

In the kitchen moaning about dry volovants and exchanging lists of favourite Dylan tracks. That was my 90's right there.
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: DR PETERS on September 13, 2011, 10:42:47 AM
Someone give me a shout when we start playing some attractive, pass and move, intelligent football in that case...I won't hold my breath though

Seconded

I know BB has just been man of the match for the Sweaties but I know I'll start with Ivanhoe.
All the coaching in the world can't remedy that

I bet you two are fun at a party.

Having an extra coach does suggest that AMc and his team will be working a lot more with the players in the future (certainly compared to MON's two hour training sessions).  I think it is vitally important that extra time is invested in a young squad as they need tactical debriefing etc if they are to get better.  It also mirror's AMc's post match comments where he stressed a couple of times that he thought he could get a bit more out of the players.

In an ideal world we'd obviously be buying a few more "finished articles" but in this world the extra coaching and apparent work ethic of AMc will hopefully see us improve.

So by that I assume that you would rather heskey start above bannan?

heskey should be nowhere near our first team

Don't forget the magical signing of hutton who really impressed

Far too many if's and ands, just get used to us playing horrible and uninspiring football for the remainder of AM's contract

Your glass is definitely half empty isn't it ?


I'm not sure he even has a glass !!!
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: cheltenhamlion on September 14, 2011, 08:47:43 AM
If he did he would smash it off his own head at the mention of the manager.
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 14, 2011, 03:31:08 PM
Seems Shay is happy with the arrival Gennoe as GK coach

Pravda link (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2450074,00.html)



Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on September 14, 2011, 05:19:54 PM
Probably hand pick the replacement coach. Didn't know Shay Given play for Blackburn Rovers. I though Villa is his third club after Newcastle and moremoneythansense city
Title: Re: Changes to coaching staff
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 14, 2011, 05:25:58 PM
Probably hand pick the replacement coach. Didn't know Shay Given play for Blackburn Rovers. I though Villa is his third club after Newcastle and moremoneythansense city


started his career there back in the mid-90's. Didn't play much and then moved on.
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