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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: KRS on August 31, 2011, 07:53:30 PM
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So it looks like he's about to become another addition to Citehs midfield. I've previously touted him as a transfer target and very disappointed to see he's going to end up as yet another bench warmer for Citeh. If he's genuinely fit, I would have loved to see him in a Villa shirt, in fact I'd rather see him play well in any shirt other than Citeh.
Is this just another case of money talks as it surely isnt consistent with the recent report/interview where he said he wants to play as many games as he can...upto 40 games I think he can be quoted as saying? Is this just Citeh trying to get a cheap dig at Man Utd? Is this a case of Hargreaves grabbing as much money as he can for an injury plagued career?
Very disappointed not only in Hargreaves but the fact that Citeh have grabbed a potentially great player on the relatively cheap (by their ridiculous standards) that they quite clearly do not need. Fuck right off Citeh and I hope Hargreaves gets injured again if he does sign for them.
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Beautifully put.
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Not sure why you're disappointed in Hargreaves. He's done nothing wrong. He was without a club and Man City have offered him a contract. Can't see a problem myself.
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Not sure why you're disappointed in Hargreaves. He's done nothing wrong. He was without a club and Man City have offered him a contract. Can't see a problem myself.
Because a week ago he was desperate to prove his fitness and play again.
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Not sure why you're disappointed in Hargreaves. He's done nothing wrong. He was without a club and Man City have offered him a contract. Can't see a problem myself.
Because a week ago he was desperate to prove his fitness and play again.
He may well do that at City. Any opinions either way is just speculation. After what he's been through the last few years when it looked like he'd probably have to retire I can't begrudge him having another crack at it. They're in four competitions so it's not like he'll be short of opportunities to play providing he's fit.
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IMO, Hargreaves will prove to be the signing of this transfer window, I don't see he's gone to Man City to warm the bench, i think he will be hungry and very hungry to prove himself against some of the best and it was Man City that gave him that chance.
Couple of months from now you you will be seeing him being touted for the England squad. wait and see.
He would have been brilliant for Villa and very savvy business if we had been bothered.
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If I were him I'd have gone to Man City as well.
He knows that he's a good player, if he manages to stay fit (which he won't) then he's playing in the Champions League and gets another contract at one of the top two teams in the country.
If he doesn't, then he gets paid more for the next twelve months than anyone else would pay him not to stay fit.
I don't see it as much of a decision to make.
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Me too.
Considering fat arse has no trouble getting into the City side I don't think it is a certainty that he will be warming the bench. He is probably thinking it's another shot at the big time.
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Barry, De Jong, Toure, Hargreaves, Milner.
Milner (regardless of how we see it) spends alot of time in wide areas.
They often play with three in the middle.
He'll get plenty of game time if he's fit. Look how much Vieira played over the last 2 years for them.
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Yeah no doubt it was the best offer on the table for him so cant blame him for making a decision based on finances...if he gets injured or stays fit, its a win-win situation for him. In terms of playing time on the pitch, I absolutely disagree considering the midfield talent on show up there...even if you consider the 4 competitions they are competing for, he simply isnt going to get as much game time to push for the England squad as he would have done at Villa or most other Premier League teams.
Citeh already have at least 7 high profile midfielders competing for places off the top of my head:
Silva
Barry
Nasri
Toure
Milner
Johnson
De Jong
...with the addition of Hargreaves, that will be 4 England Internationals competing for places in the Citeh team and a place in the England squad.
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The issue is City won't play 3 in the middle so often this season, as Mancini is under pressure to fit Tevez, Aguerro, Dzeko, Silva etc all into the side. As such, De jong and Barry will start most weeks I reckon, with Milner starting at home and not away
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Even if they only play 2 midfielders. De Jong, Toure, Barry, Hargreaves.
4 players for two spots, and they'll be on course for well over 60k games this season. He'll play more than enough (if he's fit).
Vieira played 32 games last season.
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Man City signed Hargreaves primarily because they didn't want a rival club to have him. Nobody looked at Manchester City's squad a week ago and said to themselves 'You know who would really fit in? Owen Hargreaves.'
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Man City signed Hargreaves primarily because they didn't want a rival club to have him. Nobody looked at Manchester City's squad a week ago and said to themselves 'You know who would really fit in? Owen Hargreaves.'
I don't think that West Brom, Leicester or (potentially) us would really be seem as a rival club to Man City.
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Man City signed Hargreaves primarily because they didn't want a rival club to have him. Nobody looked at Manchester City's squad a week ago and said to themselves 'You know who would really fit in? Owen Hargreaves.'
I don't think that West Brom, Leicester or (potentially) us would really be seem as a rival club to Man City.
It's 12 points a season though.
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Man City signed Hargreaves primarily because they didn't want a rival club to have him. Nobody looked at Manchester City's squad a week ago and said to themselves 'You know who would really fit in? Owen Hargreaves.'
I don't think that West Brom, Leicester or (potentially) us would really be seem as a rival club to Man City.
We play in the same league (aside from Leicester) and could potentially take points off them. Anything that aids them in pursuit of their first PL title will be attempted.
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Do you not think that him running up and down and moving around a lot was not happening in training at Manure. It is completely different when you take the pitch
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IMO, Hargreaves will prove to be the signing of this transfer window, I don't see he's gone to Man City to warm the bench, i think he will be hungry and very hungry to prove himself against some of the best and it was Man City that gave him that chance.
Couple of months from now you you will be seeing him being touted for the England squad. wait and see.
He would have been brilliant for Villa and very savvy business if we had been bothered.
Alternatively, he'll make two sustitute appearances before bits start falling off and he'll never be seen again
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I find this a strange move with all there midfield talent that thay have got where and when he gets a game is anybodys guess.
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Not sure why you're disappointed in Hargreaves. He's done nothing wrong. He was without a club and Man City have offered him a contract. Can't see a problem myself.
Because a week ago he was desperate to prove his fitness and play again.
Rightly or wrongly i'd say that he has the self belief that he will be a first team regular.Money, no need for relocation and the chance to win something means that it's the perfect move for the player.Oh and anything that upsets United fans get my approval.
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Citeh are an example of what's wrong with pro sports these days. F*ck Citeh and Chelsea - they are going to wreck football. Is there no one around to stand up to them in the media? Alex Ferguson ?????
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Man City signed Hargreaves primarily because they didn't want a rival club to have him. Nobody looked at Manchester City's squad a week ago and said to themselves 'You know who would really fit in? Owen Hargreaves.'
I don't think that West Brom, Leicester or (potentially) us would really be seem as a rival club to Man City.
We play in the same league (aside from Leicester) and could potentially take points off them. Anything that aids them in pursuit of their first PL title will be attempted.
We could potentially take points off their rivals also. So surely that evens things out.
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You could just see him getting the points that win manc city the league over Manure ...
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IMO, Hargreaves will prove to be the signing of this transfer window, I don't see he's gone to Man City to warm the bench, i think he will be hungry and very hungry to prove himself against some of the best and it was Man City that gave him that chance.
Couple of months from now you you will be seeing him being touted for the England squad. wait and see.
He would have been brilliant for Villa and very savvy business if we had been bothered.
Alternatively, he'll make two sustitute appearances before bits start falling off and he'll never be seen again
Agree
it's one thing running around some cones and other playing a competitive game.
Fuck me the bloke has hardly played for 3 years but all of a sudden he's going to be a reincarnation of Bobby Charlton.
A bit like the people on here who suggest Michael owen would be a good signing "if we could keep him fit"
A bit like jenas now being this wonder midfielder when last week we all though he was a twat
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Who's called him a wonder midfielder then?
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US did then
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A bit like jenas now being this wonder midfielder when last week we all though he was a twat
Except of course nobody has said that.
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In fairness I am pretty sure I've called him a twat before.
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You calling him a wonder midfielder now?
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You calling him a wonder midfielder now?
If it'll get me in the sack with his missus, then yes I am!
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... i think he will be hungry and very hungry to prove himself against some of the best
You could say the same about another former England shoe-in; Jenas.
We simply don't know how these players will perform.
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The scar on his knees are a little unsettling.
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Which knee - one on both from what I can see!
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Ugh, those scars give me the chills. Can't believe he's at city, what a waste of a waste.
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And left out of the Champions League squad.
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So much for his chances of playing CL football and 40 games per season then...so it'll be Carling Cup appearances and nice looking bank balance for Mr.Hargreaves.
Saw an interview with him last night where he claimed his decision was largely based on not having the upheavel of moving from his settled home in Manchester...not exactly the kind of committment you'd expect from a player hoping to get 40 games under his belt if he cant even be arsed to move house!
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So much for his chances of playing CL football and 40 games per season then...so it'll be Carling Cup appearances and nice looking bank balance for Mr.Hargreaves.
Saw an interview with him last night where he claimed his decision was largely based on not having the upheavel of moving from his settled home in Manchester...not exactly the kind of committment you'd expect from a player hoping to get 40 games under his belt if he cant even be arsed to move house!
He must have had some offers from 'smaller' clubs, but were probably pay as you play offers. I suppose he has a decent wage at Man City, but says a lot about him if he wishes to sit in the stands and 'earn' these wages rather than proves his worth on the pitch.
Compare that to Given who actually wanted to be getting his hand dirty when at kick off.
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So much for his chances of playing CL football and 40 games per season then...so it'll be Carling Cup appearances and nice looking bank balance for Mr.Hargreaves.
Saw an interview with him last night where he claimed his decision was largely based on not having the upheavel of moving from his settled home in Manchester...not exactly the kind of committment you'd expect from a player hoping to get 40 games under his belt if he cant even be arsed to move house!
He must have had some offers from 'smaller' clubs, but were probably pay as you play offers. I suppose he has a decent wage at Man City, but says a lot about him if he wishes to sit in the stands and 'earn' these wages rather than proves his worth on the pitch.
So the most injured player in the world wants to take advantage of the richest club in the world for his final contract before he retires rather than wasting his time in West Brom's reserves?
What a ******.
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So much for his chances of playing CL football and 40 games per season then...so it'll be Carling Cup appearances and nice looking bank balance for Mr.Hargreaves.
Saw an interview with him last night where he claimed his decision was largely based on not having the upheavel of moving from his settled home in Manchester...not exactly the kind of committment you'd expect from a player hoping to get 40 games under his belt if he cant even be arsed to move house!
He must have had some offers from 'smaller' clubs, but were probably pay as you play offers. I suppose he has a decent wage at Man City, but says a lot about him if he wishes to sit in the stands and 'earn' these wages rather than proves his worth on the pitch.
So the most injured player in the world wants to take advantage of the richest club in the world for his final contract before he retires rather than wasting his time in West Brom's reserves?
What a c***.
Certainly wouldn't turn down the cash myself, but I'm sure he's not destitute. His PR videos were to prove he still had it as a footballer, not a seat warmer. If he just wanted a pay packet for 12 months, then why not go and play MLS, where the football is not as strenuous.
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... i think he will be hungry and very hungry to prove himself against some of the best
You could say the same about another former England shoe-in; Jenas.
We simply don't know how these players will perform.
Difference being it was not injuries that kept jenas from playing it was opportunities.
Owen Hargreaves may well have a lot to prove but it is his body and its weakness that will mean he plays a handful of games before breaking down.On a personal note I hope he takes as much money as possible under false pretences of being a footballer out of man shitty as he did out of manure.
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So much for his chances of playing CL football and 40 games per season then...so it'll be Carling Cup appearances and nice looking bank balance for Mr.Hargreaves.
Saw an interview with him last night where he claimed his decision was largely based on not having the upheavel of moving from his settled home in Manchester...not exactly the kind of committment you'd expect from a player hoping to get 40 games under his belt if he cant even be arsed to move house!
He must have had some offers from 'smaller' clubs, but were probably pay as you play offers. I suppose he has a decent wage at Man City, but says a lot about him if he wishes to sit in the stands and 'earn' these wages rather than proves his worth on the pitch.
So the most injured player in the world wants to take advantage of the richest club in the world for his final contract before he retires rather than wasting his time in West Brom's reserves?
What a c***.
Certainly wouldn't turn down the cash myself, but I'm sure he's not destitute. His PR videos were to prove he still had it as a footballer, not a seat warmer. If he just wanted a pay packet for 12 months, then why not go and play MLS, where the football is not as strenuous.
And the wages are 3% as much as he would otherwise be earning?
(considering Guzan increased his wages by approximately 800% when he joined us)
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I am sure manure fans would be disgusted with his antics of joining their nearest rivals after collecting a huge wage for 4 years if they believed he was able to play again but he will not play a significant role so they do not give a shit.
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I am sure manure fans would be disgusted with his antics of joining their nearest rivals after collecting a huge wage for 4 years if they believed he was able to play again but he will not play a significant role so they do not give a shit.
I'm pretty sure that doesn't make any sense,
But if Man Utd fans are upset, why exactly does it matter?
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He has basically shown himself to be a Stewart Downing.....
There is nothing lower.
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What is so difficult to understand?He left manure as a free agent after earning over a hundred thousand pounds a week for them,he played how many games?My point is manure fans are not bothered even though he has joined their rivals for the very fact he is a busted flush.
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So much for his chances of playing CL football and 40 games per season then...so it'll be Carling Cup appearances and nice looking bank balance for Mr.Hargreaves.
Saw an interview with him last night where he claimed his decision was largely based on not having the upheavel of moving from his settled home in Manchester...not exactly the kind of committment you'd expect from a player hoping to get 40 games under his belt if he cant even be arsed to move house!
He must have had some offers from 'smaller' clubs, but were probably pay as you play offers. I suppose he has a decent wage at Man City, but says a lot about him if he wishes to sit in the stands and 'earn' these wages rather than proves his worth on the pitch.
So the most injured player in the world wants to take advantage of the richest club in the world for his final contract before he retires rather than wasting his time in West Brom's reserves?
What a c***.
Certainly wouldn't turn down the cash myself, but I'm sure he's not destitute. His PR videos were to prove he still had it as a footballer, not a seat warmer. If he just wanted a pay packet for 12 months, then why not go and play MLS, where the football is not as strenuous.
And the wages are 3% as much as he would otherwise be earning?
(considering Guzan increased his wages by approximately 800% when he joined us)
Guzan wasn't a big draw there though I assume. I'm sure wages for prominent (or not so prominent) players must be half decent. Beckham, Henry, and even Robbie Keane must be getting something equivalent to their Euro league wages. I agree that if it it's just the money, he is in the right place and good luck to him (he has his some medals at least).