Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Michel Sibble on August 25, 2011, 01:52:02 PM
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As reported on the BBC news at One...
Personally I hate the git for his success, but I lost a little bit of respect for the man. It takes an everlasting burning of hatred and revenge for his ban to last seven years. And yet it ends thanks to a few emails back and forth from the BBC.
Can't wait to hear from him on MOTD [/sarcasm]
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I hope it won't take the BBC seven years before they decide to use subtitles when showing interviews with Kenny Dalglish. Does anybody understand a word the miserable cnut says?
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I've no desire to see any more of the whiskey faced old piss-pot on my TV screen.
Whenever Newton Heath are on the telly the director is forever cutting away to show him sitting on the bench, and as for that short armed clappy goal celebration of his, lord give me strength.
What now for Mike Phelan? If anybody wanted to learn how to approach an interview with a straight bat, he was your man.
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Don't mind Man Utd and I'd rather they win the league than any of the other 4 potential league winners.
I'd also much rather listen to Ferguson than most managers.
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Don't mind Man Utd and I'd rather they win the league than any of the other 4 potential league winners.
I'd also much rather listen to Ferguson than most managers.
That sums up the sad state of affairs in football to a tee.
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Ferguson starts to abide by the rules after seven years when he has got away with it unpunished. A microcosm of the way the big teams are favourably treated I reckon.
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Ferguson starts to abide by the rules after seven years when he has got away with it unpunished. A microcosm of the way the big teams are favourably treated I reckon.
100% my thoughts exactly - he knows the media & FA needs him more than he does them
Until that balance is addressed he will continue to act selfishly and with impunity
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I hope that they now don't ask to speak to him. Absolute tosser, doesn't deserve the opportunity to speak on the BBC if he behaved like a child for the last 7 seven years.
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Regrettably the BBC, instead of simply giving him the same airtime as every other top flight manager, will now fawn all over him. What odds on a Lifetime Achievement Award at this year's Sports Personality of the Year?
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Regrettably the BBC, instead of simply giving him the same airtime as every other top flight manager, will now fawn all over him. What odds on a Lifetime Achievement Award at this year's Sports Personality of the Year?
Through gritted teeth you would have to admit he deserves it
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Next, Arsene Wenger goes to Specsavers and sees that off-the-ball incident
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Next, Arsene Wenger goes to Specsavers and sees that off-the-ball incident
Applause.
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Don't mind Man Utd and I'd rather they win the league than any of the other 4 potential league winners.
I don't mind them either, they've won that much in my football following years that I'm just immune to it now, and if they keep Citeh and Chelsea from winning the league then thats good enough for me.
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I'd ban all managers from talking on MOTD if it was up to me. Actually, I'd ban all talking, apart from the commentary. Nothing controversial or remotely interesting has ever been said on that programme. Funny how they hype up the Premier League and then the flagship highlights show is presented by the blandest man on the planet. Lineker makes Steve Penk look charismatic. His jokes are so bad they'd struggle to make it into a box of christmas crackers made by Joe Pasquale. The "analysis" is so predictable I could write it myself. The two Alans clearly can't be bothered any more, they might as well just put a Blackberry on loudspeaker next to Gary so they can phone it in from their conservatories. Lawro is the last remaining person alive who uses the word "not" at the end of a sentence and thinks it's funny - as in "Wayne's World's a recent film - NOT!" Get rid, that's what I say. Cut the chat and show more action. I can make up my own mind. It makes me yearn for Elton Wellsby. Or Jimmy Hill, on his tod, saying, "Great result for Everton, now we're off to Villa Park". No nonsense, no ex-pro spongeing a massive wage to draw arrows on a freeze frame, just an hour of football.
As it is, we'll now have wall-to-wall brown-nosing over every word that comes out of Ferguson's embittered gob, they'll probably employ Savage to scurry around on all fours behind the kidney-shaped desk wiping Gary-drool off the studio floor with a tissue. He'd do it too, the tart...
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Yeah, but surely you must admire the way Gary Lineker can deliver a carefully scribbed ad-lib? Worth every penny of the £2million a year forked out by the licence payer.
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The "analysis" is so predictable I could write it myself. The two Alans clearly can't be bothered any more, they might as well just put a Blackberry on loudspeaker next to Gary so they can phone it in from their conservatories. Lawro is the last remaining person alive who uses the word "not" at the end of a sentence and thinks it's funny - as in "Wayne's World's a recent film - NOT!" Get rid, that's what I say. Cut the chat and show more action. I can make up my own mind. It makes me yearn for Elton Wellsby. Or Jimmy Hill, on his tod, saying, "Great result for Everton, now we're off to Villa Park". No nonsense, no ex-pro spongeing a massive wage to draw arrows on a freeze frame, just an hour of football.
Do what I do...Sky+ MOTD and MOTD2 and watch it half hour after it started (or whenever you like). Fast forward through all the interviews and punditry. Job done.
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Yes, I admire his bare-faced cheek at pocketing a hefty wage for delivering such eye-wateringly poor material without bursting into huge laughter and saying, "Can you believe I get paid for this?!" That takes some hide. A bit like one of those looters we've seen on the news recently. They know it's wrong, but they're brazen about it. Admirable. By the way, you're paying two million quid for your licence?! You should check that out, there must have been some mistake with your direct debit...
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Ferguson starts to abide by the rules after seven years when he has got away with it unpunished. A microcosm of the way the big teams are favourably treated I reckon.
Or just Manchester United in particular. Sir Dave Richards brokered the meeting between the chief executive of the BBC and Sir Alex Ferguson. Man U hold unprecedented power within the media.
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Ferguson starts to abide by the rules after seven years when he has got away with it unpunished. A microcosm of the way the big teams are favourably treated I reckon.
Or just Manchester United in particular. Sir Dave Richards brokered the meeting between the chief executive of the BBC and Sir Alex Ferguson. Man U hold unprecedented power within the media.
It says a lot for Dave Richards that Ferguson wouldn't be the most loathsome man in that group.
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Fergie breaks BBC ban ?
I wasnt even aware of a ban. The BBC should simply ignore them if they have lifted the ban anyway.
In any case, the lovely Kate and William are more important than that old washed up ginger haired frump.
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I read the boycott was because the BBC made a programme about his son in 94, Does anyone remember it because I don't?
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For the umpteenth time a thread for Villa reds. What is not off-topic about this thread?
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i am going to boycott listening to the twat for the next seven years. i dont really give a shiny shit what that fucker says.
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Ferguson said: "It is fantastic. The FA may realise who has produced more players for their country than any club in the world."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/26/sir-alex-ferguson-manchester-united (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/26/sir-alex-ferguson-manchester-united)
i thought this was villa?
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The "analysis" is so predictable I could write it myself. The two Alans clearly can't be bothered any more, they might as well just put a Blackberry on loudspeaker next to Gary so they can phone it in from their conservatories. Lawro is the last remaining person alive who uses the word "not" at the end of a sentence and thinks it's funny - as in "Wayne's World's a recent film - NOT!" Get rid, that's what I say. Cut the chat and show more action. I can make up my own mind. It makes me yearn for Elton Wellsby. Or Jimmy Hill, on his tod, saying, "Great result for Everton, now we're off to Villa Park". No nonsense, no ex-pro spongeing a massive wage to draw arrows on a freeze frame, just an hour of football.
Do what I do...Sky+ MOTD and MOTD2 and watch it half hour after it started (or whenever you like). Fast forward through all the interviews and punditry. Job done.
Thats exactly what I do too - makes it all watchable that way !
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Ferguson said: "It is fantastic. The FA may realise who has produced more players for their country than any club in the world."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/26/sir-alex-ferguson-manchester-united (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/26/sir-alex-ferguson-manchester-united)
i thought this was villa?
Villa have supplied the most England players but I think he means the club that has supplied the most international players for any country.
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I think he means in the current squad.
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I think he means in the current squad.
I'm not sure this would be the most in a single squad from one club. Ron Greenwood used to fill England teams, not even squads, with Liverpool players. I think nine at one point but I may wrong as I haven't checked it.
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Fergie's ranting against the FA now. He's just said that you'd think the FA would treat Man U with more respect considering they've provided more England players than any other club. Mmmm, don't think so.
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So rightly implementing bans on Fergie criticing refs and a player delibrately targeting a camera to swear down on a live match is treating the club like shit. I just hope that they treat them like shit and fine Fergie a significant amount (£1mil min) for crticising them like that in public and then distribute the money in the amatuer leagues.
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He's a self-serving prick who'd happily put any other club out of business if it meant his godforsaken club could earn an extra pound.
Him and Wenger are as bad as each other, fucking cancers on the game.
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For all his achievements, and one has to concede that they are pretty impressive, he will never be able to match Graham Taylor.
For all the shit thrown at him as national manager and throughout his career he acted like a gentleman.
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"The documentary suggested that Ferguson's son may not have been the living incarnation of Zeus and that football agents were possibly not the Platonic ideal of probity and honesty." http://tinyurl.com/3p6kekb
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Ferguson said: "It is fantastic. The FA may realise who has produced more players for their country than any club in the world."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/26/sir-alex-ferguson-manchester-united (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/26/sir-alex-ferguson-manchester-united)
i thought this was villa?
Villa have supplied the most England players but I think he means the club that has supplied the most international players for any country.
No, he didn't. He clearly says: "...who has produced more players for their country than any club in the world."
'Their' is refering to the FA.
So either A) He's being his usual arrogant prick and assuming this is the case without actually checking the facts, or B) Man Ure have now overtaken us in this respect (possibly because we keep selling our England players) and he's been patiently waiting to trot out this 'fact' like it's been ever the case.
Does anyone know if they have overtaken us? If you google it the only thing that comes up is Wiki Answers where someone answers that it's Aston Villa with 65 players capped for England. I've tried the 'Stats' pages on the FA website but couldn't find it.
I would very much like to know, so I can get on the texts and e-mails to Man Ure fans (and all those who hate them) and expose Ferguson for the cock that he is. (Plus publicise a good bit of PR for the Villa ;))
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_national_football_team_records
Go get 'em. Can't find the source, but should be enough to be going on with (about 1/4 the way down).
I suspect Sralex would be right if he meant number of caps won....
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I can't believe that so much of H&V's bandwidth has been taken up by this mans drink addled paranoid ramblings.
Wish I had the power to attach a "locked" icon.
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According to Aston Villa's Wiki page we have produced 71 players for England.
"As of February 2011, Aston Villa had provided more England internationals than any other club, with 71."
Martin Tyler published the following list in an article he wrote on the Sky Sports website in November 2009.
Top 20 teams providing England internationals (all time):
1. Aston Villa - 68
2. Tottenham - 62
3. Everton - 59
4. Liverpool - 58
5. Man United - 57
6. Arsenal - 54
7. Blackburn - 48
8= Man City, West Brom - 42
10= Chelsea, Sheff Wed - 41
12. Nottingham Forest - 37
13. Derby - 36
14= Sheffield United, West Ham - 35
16= Newcastle, Wolves 33
18. Leeds - 30
19. Middlesbrough - 29
20= Bolton / Southampton - 26
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He is an arrogant patronising twat and I hate him to the core of his bones. No matter whatever more he wins he will never be as good as Cloughie and not even close to Paisley.
How has he "produced" more players for their Country than any other Club in the world?
Their current crop of England players is mostly purchased.
By the way what was the 4 letter word he used that Radio Stations are not broadcasting? and is that fitting for a Knight of the Realm?
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Ferguson, 69, said: "The FA may realise who has produced more players for their country than any club in the world".
That to me means players, not number of caps. So he's wrong as far as England are concerned and probably wrong for a host of other clubs in their respective countries.
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I read the boycott was because the BBC made a programme about his son in 94, Does anyone remember it because I don't?
From the BBC press release (http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2004/05_may/25/fergie_son.shtml)
- Exposes how Jason Ferguson broke Fifa rules in a major Manchester United transfer.
Discloses for the first time that six current members of the United first team squad are now on the books of Jason's agency Elite.
Reporter Alex Millar discloses that Manchester United paid Mike Morris, a close business associate of Jason Ferguson, hundreds of thousands of pounds to act for them in the Jaap Stam move.
Whether any of this was proven remains to be seen, but WhiskyLips didn't like it.
And so began the Cold War...
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Fergie - Tossbasket
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Ferguson simply talks shite. For his outburst today I would like to see the FA grow some balls and send him to the stands for as long as possible.
It's not unusual for the man to talk shite, of course. Back in the eighties he would often say Man utd were the biggest club in the world despite them, at the time, just about being in the top five of England's most successful club sides. The thing is, the media latch on to these claims and before long they all start being reported as fact and taken as gospel. Then you have glory-hunting simpletons swallowing the lot and throwing in their lot with Man Utd.
Why can't the media just do us all a favour and ignore him? Ultimately this is all cash in the bank for Man Utd.
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Have to be honest, does it really make any difference if he starts talking via the BBC or not, I can never understand a word the man say's, more so when he's either been beaten or been on the wrong end of a Ref's decision, or a game at Old Trafford hasn't been allowed to run long enough in order for them to get the full 3 pts, usually about 12mins extra time will do it, then he becomes inconceivable, and that nose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!he must have a direct drip feed to the local brewery.
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Listening to the reporter (himslef banned) reeling off the list of reporters Fergie has banned on 5-Live was amusing...
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Bear in mind when assessing what he's won in the game, he's doing this with the massive distortive impact of the Champions League cash. Basically each season the premier league is a 2 or 3 horse race. Back in the day up to 10 teams could realistically win it. Despite being able to enter every year he's still only won the same number of Champions Leagues as Brian Clough.
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Have to be honest, does it really make any difference if he starts talking via the BBC or not, I can never understand a word the man say's, more so when he's either been beaten or been on the wrong end of a Ref's decision, or a game at Old Trafford hasn't been allowed to run long enough in order for them to get the full 3 pts, usually about 12mins extra time will do it, then he becomes inconceivable, and that nose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!he must have a direct drip feed to the local brewery.
I'm with you. It's all the inappropriate apostrophes I can't fucking stand SAY WHAT YOU MEAN, FERGIE, YOU FUCKING PRICK!
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(http://www.boxofficefootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/alex-ferguson-no-more-transfers-225x300.jpg)
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I read the boycott was because the BBC made a programme about his son in 94, Does anyone remember it because I don't?
From the BBC press release (http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2004/05_may/25/fergie_son.shtml)
- Exposes how Jason Ferguson broke Fifa rules in a major Manchester United transfer.
Discloses for the first time that six current members of the United first team squad are now on the books of Jason's agency Elite.
Reporter Alex Millar discloses that Manchester United paid Mike Morris, a close business associate of Jason Ferguson, hundreds of thousands of pounds to act for them in the Jaap Stam move.
Whether any of this was proven remains to be seen, but WhiskyLips didn't like it.
And so began the Cold War...
Cheers for that