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Title: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Shrek on August 06, 2011, 10:22:44 PM
Abit of confusion on Twitter, but rumour is Villa have contacted FA saying Bent injured.

That's why he isn't in the England squad.


Also how long has it been since we had an England squad with no Villa players?
Title: Re: Bent injured???
Post by: Michel Sibble on August 06, 2011, 10:30:18 PM
He's just been left out. He walked off the pitch when subbed, didn't look like he was injured.

But what do I know?
Title: Re: Bent injured???
Post by: Villafirst on August 06, 2011, 10:31:07 PM
Not sure.....did he look injured when he came off?? Kinda brings it home when you see the squad: Downing, Young, Barry, Cahill, Milner and Walker.....that's some team we could've had!!
Title: Re: Bent injured???
Post by: eamonn on August 06, 2011, 10:32:06 PM
Clever...keep him under wraps for Fulham on Sat instead of that pointless midweek friendly.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Risso on August 06, 2011, 10:32:58 PM
Andy Carroll, Peter Crouch, Wayne Rooney, Danny Welbeck

Shittest bunch of England strikers in many a long year that.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Michel Sibble on August 06, 2011, 10:37:36 PM
Guess he'll have to move to Citeh, then?
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: ozzjim on August 06, 2011, 10:45:20 PM
I cannot for the life of me see how he is not an automatic starter, let alone being in the squad. He did enough last season surely to ensure the number 9 shirt for the remaining qualifiers.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 06, 2011, 10:47:51 PM
My money is firmly on him being in the starting Villa line up on Saturday. I'm delighted he's not playing a meaningless game in midweek. He looked fine all game and when he came off, and Villa have withdrawn him over a "knock" then it's only what Man U/Liverpool etc have been doing with their players for years. Club over country every time for me.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Villafirst on August 06, 2011, 10:56:02 PM
My money is firmly on him being in the starting Villa line up on Saturday. I'm delighted he's not playing a meaningless game in midweek. He looked fine all game and when he came off, and Villa have withdrawn him over a "knock" then it's only what Man U/Liverpool etc have been doing with their players for years. Club over country every time for me.

Have Villa withdrawn him?? Or is Capello being a complete tosser?
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 06, 2011, 11:01:27 PM
My money is firmly on him being in the starting Villa line up on Saturday. I'm delighted he's not playing a meaningless game in midweek. He looked fine all game and when he came off, and Villa have withdrawn him over a "knock" then it's only what Man U/Liverpool etc have been doing with their players for years. Club over country every time for me.

Have Villa withdrawn him?? Or is Capello being a complete tosser?

I know Capello has been proven to be a bit of a knob at times, but seeing he's been very good indeed in the past few games, I doubt he's dropped Bent. I'd say he's rested him but I could be mistaken. But if he has completely lost his marbles, and he has dropped him, then 1) good for us, and 2) get the man a straight jacket.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: ozzjim on August 06, 2011, 11:02:23 PM
Matt Kendrick reporting that he has pulled out with a shoulder injury.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: gervilla on August 06, 2011, 11:04:37 PM
My money is firmly on him being in the starting Villa line up on Saturday. I'm delighted he's not playing a meaningless game in midweek. He looked fine all game and when he came off, and Villa have withdrawn him over a "knock" then it's only what Man U/Liverpool etc have been doing with their players for years. Club over country every time for me.

Have Villa withdrawn him?? Or is Capello being a complete tosser?
Both.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 06, 2011, 11:05:44 PM
Matt Kendrick reporting that he has pulled out with a shoulder injury.


didn't look to be hurt when he came off so hopefully one of those mystery injuries, or something very minor where Villa have made the decision as a precaution. My guess is had it been a qualifier he'd be playing.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Villafirst on August 06, 2011, 11:13:17 PM
Matt Kendrick reporting that he has pulled out with a shoulder injury.


didn't look to be hurt when he came off so hopefully one of those mystery injuries, or something very minor where Villa have made the decision as a precaution. My guess is had it been a qualifier he'd be playing.

Perhaps Darren has learned how to feign injury from Sir Alex?? I do trust Mat Kendrick though - he's not wrong very often.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: olaftab on August 06, 2011, 11:21:44 PM
Andy Carroll, Peter Crouch, Wayne Rooney, Danny Welbeck

Shittest bunch of England strikers in many a long year that.
clearly looking at this lot apart from Shrek he is giving the second string a chance and obviously resting Darren.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: olofmilosevic on August 06, 2011, 11:32:48 PM
I for one would be really happy if no Villa player ever played for England again!! Barry,Milner,young,downing all suddenly became unsettled at villa after they became England regulars!
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on August 06, 2011, 11:34:14 PM
Clever...keep him under wraps for Fulham on Sat instead of that pointless midweek friendly.

To right, everyone else does it so why shouldn't we? We'd be up shit street if he got injured, so why take the risk?
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: nuninho on August 07, 2011, 08:54:34 AM
I for one would be really happy if no Villa player ever played for England again!! Barry,Milner,young,downing all suddenly became unsettled at villa after they became England regulars!

Its been going on since Gerry Hitchens!!
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: darren woolley on August 07, 2011, 08:56:40 AM
I hope he recovers for Fulham glad he has pulled out of the England squad pointless match anyway.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 07, 2011, 09:29:45 AM
England or no England....Bent 20 plus goals this season, we at very best make Europa league, either of Manc clubs or Chelski offer £35 in the summer, Villa say no way, Bents being offered Champions league football, he goes for £40 million.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: junxs on August 07, 2011, 09:48:39 AM
Not sure.....did he look injured when he came off?? Kinda brings it home when you see the squad: Downing, Young, Barry, Cahill, Milner and Walker.....that's some team we could've had!!

Don't forget Crouchy
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Rigadon on August 07, 2011, 09:52:51 AM
England or no England....Bent 20 plus goals this season, we at very best make Europa league, either of Manc clubs or Chelski offer £35 in the summer, Villa say no way, Bents being offered Champions league football, he goes for £40 million.

Cheery, but not inconceivable thought.  Same with any of the youngsters if they fulfil their potential.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 07, 2011, 10:12:57 AM
Hopefully the injury isn't too serious and he'll be fine next week.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Clampy on August 07, 2011, 10:30:37 AM
Mick McCarthy has gone off on one about the timing of this freindly and quite right too, it's absolutley ridiculous.

Like someone else said earlier, i would'nt care less if we did'nt have another player picked for England again. Still, i suppose it gives the F.A another chance to pay off Wembley.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: VillaAlways on August 07, 2011, 11:43:16 AM
DB has just tweeted that he has had to pull out because his shoulder has been bothering him and he wants to be fully fit for KO on Saturday
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on August 07, 2011, 11:51:50 AM
As long as he does the biz for villa fuck England and that pointless friendly
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 07, 2011, 12:13:18 PM
As long as he does the biz for villa fuck England and that pointless friendly

I agree, but I was concerned he'd been dropped and as a consequence it would make him unhappy at Villa if he wasn't received England recognition.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: noodles_ on August 07, 2011, 12:17:59 PM
Danny 'effing Welbeck? 
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Shrek on August 07, 2011, 12:50:04 PM
This is Bent's tweet:

"Gutted I had to pull out of the England squad, the shoulder has been bothering me and wanna make sure I'm fully fit for the big KO next week"
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 07, 2011, 12:51:17 PM
This is Bent's tweet:

"Gutted I had to pull out of the England squad, the shoulder has been bothering me and wanna make sure I'm fully fit for the big KO next week"

Good lad Darren.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: noodles_ on August 07, 2011, 12:52:33 PM
Glad to see he's got his priorities in order.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Villafirst on August 07, 2011, 12:53:32 PM
Was Bent dropped or not? Sky saying Welbeck was picked instead. Wilshere has been named in the squad despite an ankle injury. Capello is a dick anyway!
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: D.boy on August 07, 2011, 01:01:04 PM
Dropped/rested or not does it really matter because its only a stupidly timed friendly.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 07, 2011, 01:06:03 PM
Well since he's tweeted that he was injured I'll take his word on it. Also there's no way Capello would drop him from the squad after starting him recently.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Villafirst on August 07, 2011, 01:08:36 PM
Well since he's tweeted that he was injured I'll take his word on it. Also there's no way Capello would drop him from the squad after starting him recently.

I don't know, Capello? I just don't rate the guy - £6M a year? Overpaid jerk!
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Shrek on August 07, 2011, 02:31:09 PM
Darren has said he is sorry he had to pull out of the squad. Answers itself to me.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 07, 2011, 02:38:53 PM
DB has just tweeted that he has had to pull out because his shoulder has been bothering him and he wants to be fully fit for KO on Saturday

I love you Darren.




Am I wrong in saying that?
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Risso on August 07, 2011, 02:54:59 PM
DB has just tweeted that he has had to pull out because his shoulder has been bothering him and he wants to be fully fit for KO on Saturday

I love you Darren.




Am I wrong in saying that?

Not at all.  We're all guilty of a little Bent love on here.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 07, 2011, 03:03:28 PM
DB has just tweeted that he has had to pull out because his shoulder has been bothering him and he wants to be fully fit for KO on Saturday

I love you Darren.




Am I wrong in saying that?

Not at all.  We're all guilty of a little Bent love on here.

If things go to plan, I'll be advocating threesomes with N'Zogbia next.


I need to lie down now.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: JJ-AV on August 07, 2011, 03:10:25 PM
It's good to be Bent.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Lobsterboy on August 07, 2011, 07:18:20 PM
Well at least the absence of Bent (or indeed any Villa players) from the squad means we don't have to worry about any unnecessary injuries prior to the start of the season.

We have a small enough squad as it is!
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on August 07, 2011, 07:22:50 PM
Does anyone know if CNZ has been called up by France? It would suit us if he hasn't, so we can work on getting him fit for Fulham.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: spangley1812 on August 07, 2011, 07:26:25 PM
Does anyone know if CNZ has been called up by France? It would suit us if he hasn't, so we can work on getting him fit for Fulham.

He isnt a regular in the squad
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: eric woolban woolban on August 07, 2011, 08:33:41 PM
Are Ireland playing?
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: spangley1812 on August 07, 2011, 08:35:28 PM
Are Ireland playing?

Yes v Croatia
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: gervilla on August 07, 2011, 09:17:09 PM
Are Ireland playing?

Yes v Croatia

Clark has been called up to the squad after a few withdrawals.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Villanation on August 08, 2011, 03:04:29 PM
Andy Carroll, Peter Crouch, Wayne Rooney, Danny Welbeck

Shittest bunch of England strikers in many a long year that.

Somebody said to me the other day they couldn't for the life of them understand what all the star status was about concerning Andy Carroll, he reckoned he's only scored 36 goals since 06/07 season, my initial response was utter crap, if that was the case he wouldn't have merited a 34ML price tag to Liverpool, unless they are stupid, from what i can tell that stat is correct, which if so, that's incredible for a front man.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: spangley1812 on August 08, 2011, 03:06:47 PM
Sky Sports News report that Manchester United midfielder Tom Cleverley will be called up to the England squad for the friendly with the Netherlands on Wednesday.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Villanation on August 08, 2011, 03:17:59 PM
Sky Sports News report that Manchester United midfielder Tom Cleverley will be called up to the England squad for the friendly with the Netherlands on Wednesday.

He Looked reasonable yesterday, thought Ashley Young was buzzing, every time the commentator mentioned Young's name when he had the ball i immediately kept thinking where's Gabbs........
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Whiney MacWhineface on August 08, 2011, 03:31:17 PM
Andy Carroll, Peter Crouch, Wayne Rooney, Danny Welbeck

Shittest bunch of England strikers in many a long year that.

Somebody said to me the other day they couldn't for the life of them understand what all the star status was about concerning Andy Carroll, he reckoned he's only scored 36 goals since 06/07 season, my initial response was utter crap, if that was the case he wouldn't have merited a 34ML price tag to Liverpool, unless they are stupid, from what i can tell that stat is correct, which if so, that's incredible for a front man.

He's 22. in 2006 he would have been 17! He only got a regular start in the season they were in Division 2 so his record isn't bad. DOn't think he'll stay fit long enough to be great but if he does then he'll be a real handful.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: pedro25 on August 08, 2011, 03:40:28 PM
Crouch has a fantastic England record, 22 goals in 42 games, and Rooney is arguably the best English striker for a generation.  Defoe and Sturridge are very good strikers and can't make the squad and with Bent being injured I don't think we're too badly off for strikers.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Somniloquism on August 08, 2011, 04:19:47 PM
I can't wait until Milner is dropped through lack of first team action and poor form. After all, he went to Citeh to ensure his place in the England setup.
Title: Re: Bent injured?/England squad
Post by: Somniloquism on August 08, 2011, 04:24:59 PM
Crouch has a fantastic England record, 22 goals in 42 games, and Rooney is arguably the best English striker for a generation.  Defoe and Sturridge are very good strikers and can't make the squad and with Bent being injured I don't think we're too badly off for strikers.

Isn't there an argument about the quality of opposition for Crouch's goals? And when was the last time Rooney has performed to his abilities in an England shirt. 3 years ago? Defoe is very hit and miss and like Bent sometimes, if he doesn't score, the team can be down to 10 men. And Sturridge needs to be playing regularly beofre you can really consider playing him in competitive England teams.

On paper we might not be too badly for strikers but how many goals did we score from our strikers in tournaments in the last few years.
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