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Heroes & Villains => Villa Memories => Topic started by: pooligan on July 28, 2011, 09:44:37 AM
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Never seen it mentioned on here before,so sorry if it has been,but does anyone else remember Villa playing the Italy Under 19 in a pre season game at Villa Park and being booed as they came onto the pitch by most of the Villa fans..This was due to Villa deciding to play in their new yellow and blue away kit to give fans the chance to see it.I can still remember the piss taking i recieved at work on the Monday morning.
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That rings a bell you know. I also remember Villa being booed onto the pitch against Burnley in the 70's, They came out wearing all Claret track suit tops for some reason. We lost the game 0-3 so it was a portent! That being said, the Ronny Rosenthal miss has to be up there in any 'Amusing moments' list. Gales of derision from 40, 000 odd :)
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The 3-0 loss to burnley still remains my least favourite match at villa park
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The final home game of last season.
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I remember that Italian game. It was actually the under 21s not under 19s. A pre season friendly 1969-70, the Doc had bought a load of new players so what with the new kit nobody recognised that it was the Villa ! We played a friendly against Dunfermline too. Pre season results went well if I remember, but then the proper games started.
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I remember that Italian game. It was actually the under 21s not under 19s. A pre season friendly 1969-70, the Doc had bought a load of new players so what with the new kit nobody recognised that it was the Villa ! We played a friendly against Dunfermline too. Pre season results went well if I remember, but then the proper games started.
It was also the fact that the players looked so sun-tanned, which stood out more in the yellow kit. They looked more Italian than the Italians did!
Dunnio, Bradleyani, Aitkenini, Riochi....
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My dad has told me about the Villa being booed on against the Italians Under 21's before.
Don't know what the score was, but could this be the only occassion when they were booed on and cheered off ?
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Yes that's right Villa were booed onto the pitch in their bright yellow shirts with blue shorts, and a whole host of new players that no-one
knew ! It was a 1-0 win, Chico Hamilton (one of the new signings) scored from close range after another new boy, Bruce Rioch, had a trademark pile driver spilled by the goalkeeper.
It was the Italian Under 21 side, and the week later as correctly stated earlier, Villa beat Scottish side Dunfermline 3-2 in a game that uncovered defensive frailties that were to have massive repercussions later in the season !
The 1969-70 season started with such optimism under Tommy Doc and Doug Ellis, but the week later a defeat at home by Norwich (managed by Ron Saunders) set the tone for a season of disaster.
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I just remembered one funny moment at Villa Park in 1971, when Harry Gregory scored his first goal of not many for Villa, and hugged a policemen behind the goal, knocking his helmet off in the process. It was in the programme at the time, with much hilarity from the players including Brian Tiler I think Villa won 3-0 against Swansea.
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Must admit Oscar i had forgotten that Harry Gregory moment.Another amusing moment i have remembered was a game against Wolves at Villa Park. It was in the 77/78 season and for some reason it was a friday night game.It was a typical dour derby match when with the score at 0-0 there was a comedy of errors in the wolves defence and one of their defenders,think it was Brazier played a back pass back to his keeper only to put it in his own net.I think we went on to win 2-0 with Dixie Deehan scoring but i don't remember that goal at all.
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I remember Joachim moaning that he'd "done the business" and should be given a wage rise. Think he'd scored about 11 goals. Towards the end of the game he was one on one with the goalie and missed and the Villa fans all cheered. Very strange.
I think we were winning comfortably.
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Ronnie Rosenthal has to be right up there, although in the same game Mark Walters did a little breakdance in front of the Holte after putting Liverpool ahead. I seem to remember towards the end when we were cruising the fans chanting for him to dance for us again but he didn't want to oblige. Pat Van Den Hauwe's backpass getting stuck in the mud for Peter Withe to capitalise in the Derby in '83 amused me too.
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The Inter boss (Trappatoni?) banging his head on the dugout, 1990.
A streaker running on the pitch and shaking hands with Shaun Teale Man Of Steel (Liverpool, home, 1995)
John Gregory putting on the referee's top vs Wimbledon 1998 ish
Norwich's goal at Villa Park 1994-95 season, an amazing goal mouth scramble with some amazingly inept keeping from Mark Bosnich.
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Wimbledon fans on two occasions
1996 - On the end of a 5-0 scoreline, Vinny Jones has an effort on goal after about 88 minutes causing their fans to sing "we've had a shot........"
1995 - We're gonna win 8-7, we're gonna win 8-7 after going 7-1 down to Villa
Middlesbrough fans doing the conga at 5-0 down in 1993
Newcastle fans singing "Phillipe, Phillipe Albert" to the tune of Rupert 1994-95 ish
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One more, Blackburn at home last season in the FA Cup, bloke behind me in the Holte was slaughtering Robert Pires and announcing how crap he was. Cue a Pires goal. Virtually everyone around us in the vicinity turned round to needle him causing him a lot of embarrassment and humble grins.
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Bannan attempting to win a header against Zigic at VP last season was very funny too.
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Never seen it mentioned on here before,so sorry if it has been,but does anyone else remember Villa playing the Italy Under 19 in a pre season game at Villa Park and being booed as they came onto the pitch by most of the Villa fans..This was due to Villa deciding to play in their new yellow and blue away kit to give fans the chance to see it.I can still remember the piss taking i recieved at work on the Monday morning.
Yes, I remember that game. I think Dick Edwards led the team out and his face was a picture when they were booed onto the field..
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The inter pre season game, when the physio ran on in a suit & a pair of boots! Then to get dogs abuse on the way off.
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Can anyone confirm my memory of a Boxing Day game against QPR in the late eighties, a long ball played up to Alan McInally who blatantly (from my view in The Holte End, but not to the officials) slapped the ball down into his path to run on and score and the QPR defenders going ape?
And this wasn't at Villa Park but the group of us that travelled to away games together in the late eighties and early nineties were at Highbury in 1990, Chris Price fluffed a chance and one of the lads went on a long tirade about how he didn't deserve to call himself a footballer and quote 'he will never score for us as long as he's got a hole in his arse' only interupted a couple of minutes later by Chrissy getting a late winner for us.
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Never seen it mentioned on here before,so sorry if it has been,but does anyone else remember Villa playing the Italy Under 19 in a pre season game at Villa Park and being booed as they came onto the pitch by most of the Villa fans..This was due to Villa deciding to play in their new yellow and blue away kit to give fans the chance to see it.I can still remember the piss taking i recieved at work on the Monday morning.
Yes, I remember that game. I think Dick Edwards led the team out and his face was a picture when they were booed onto the field..
It was actually Brian Tiler who was captain under the Doc, remember he famously fell out with Big Dick, I don't think he ever captained the Villa but stand to be corrected mate..
Later on that season Tiler was replaced as captain by Brucie Rioch as Tiler suffered a loss of form and stick from the fans, many who viewed him as Docherty's golden boy. He never really won over the fans, did he ?
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Yeah i think your right Oscar in saying that Brian Tiler never really won the fans over. If i remember rightly the Doc signed him from Rotherham a club he had managed so he was seen as the Docs golden boy. I remember him as being a Stuart Downing type i e bit of a fairy.
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Must admit Oscar i had forgotten that Harry Gregory moment.Another amusing moment i have remembered was a game against Wolves at Villa Park. It was in the 77/78 season and for some reason it was a friday night game.It was a typical dour derby match when with the score at 0-0 there was a comedy of errors in the wolves defence and one of their defenders,think it was Brazier played a back pass back to his keeper only to put it in his own net.I think we went on to win 2-0 with Dixie Deehan scoring but i don't remember that goal at all.
Pooligan, you do Brazier an injustice here, as it wasn't just a simple miss-hit back pass to his keeper but a gorgeous chip from outside the box. Cue lovely choruses of "Pass the ball back, pass the ball back, Wanderers". One of those poetic justice goals as Wolves had been very defensive that night.
Does anybody remember a game around 1972 (against Huddersfield I think) when Bruce Rioch hit a trademark rocket from 25 yards and wheeled away in triumph for a few seconds celebrating his goal, not realising his shot had actually come back off the bar and play was continuing?
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Most amusing moment NOT at Villa Park:
George Boateng throwing Paul Dickov's boot over the small stand at Filbert Street (2001?) and Dickov having to be restrained by his own team-mates (pissing themselves laughing!) from trying to kill Boateng ;D
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Was it Rodney Marsh or Stan Bowles who bared their arse in front of the Holte end in the 70's
Remember the song - Where your wife gone, Stanley Bowles
With the milkman etc.
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Les Sealey, god bless him, bored in one game and doing the chicken dance!
Les Ferdinand getting sent off for ranting at the ref
The laughter when Bellamy's hamstring went....cruel but hilarious!
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Must admit Oscar i had forgotten that Harry Gregory moment.Another amusing moment i have remembered was a game against Wolves at Villa Park. It was in the 77/78 season and for some reason it was a friday night game.It was a typical dour derby match when with the score at 0-0 there was a comedy of errors in the wolves defence and one of their defenders,think it was Brazier played a back pass back to his keeper only to put it in his own net.I think we went on to win 2-0 with Dixie Deehan scoring but i don't remember that goal at all.
Does anybody remember a game around 1972 (against Huddersfield I think) when Bruce Rioch hit a trademark rocket from 25 yards and wheeled away in triumph for a few seconds celebrating his goal, not realising his shot had actually come back off the bar and play was continuing?
Yes, first home game of the season I think?
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I threw this one into a chants thread a while back but I'm 99.9% certain we played Arsenal at Villa Park in the first game after Tony Adams got sent to prison.
The chants of 'Wheres Your Donkey Gone'? were long and loud.
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I threw this one into a chants thread a while back but I'm 99.9% certain we played Arsenal at Villa Park in the first game after Tony Adams got sent to prison.
The chants of 'Wheres Your Donkey Gone'? were long and loud.
Together with "Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle all the way, Oh what fun it is to see your donkey put away"
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I threw this one into a chants thread a while back but I'm 99.9% certain we played Arsenal at Villa Park in the first game after Tony Adams got sent to prison.
The chants of 'Wheres Your Donkey Gone'? were long and loud.
Together with "Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle all the way, Oh what fun it is to see your donkey put away"
Twas indeed shortly before Christmas. I think 'What a waste of carrots' got an airing too.
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Was it Rodney Marsh or Stan Bowles who bared their arse in front of the Holte end in the 70's
Yes, it was Rodney Marsh and to the best of memory, it was near the touchline, mid Trinity and was just passed off as a bit of amusing eccentricity.
Made me laugh anyway.
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I threw this one into a chants thread a while back but I'm 99.9% certain we played Arsenal at Villa Park in the first game after Tony Adams got sent to prison.
The chants of 'Wheres Your Donkey Gone'? were long and loud.
Together with "Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle all the way, Oh what fun it is to see your donkey put away"
Twas indeed shortly before Christmas. I think 'What a waste of carrots' got an airing too.
It was indeed and the most boring 0-0 ever.
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Anyone remember the 3-1 v Boro towards the end of the 80-81 season. I was sat in the lower Trinity and one of the Boro players ripped his shorts so came over to the bench and changed them in front of us. My mom thought it was hilarious.
A couple of seasons ago we were playing a particularly boring game against Blackburn and a couple of pidgeons were wandering around on the pitch near the corner of the Trinity/Holte. They were there for about 10-15 mins undisturbed (which says a lot about the game). The commentator summing up on the radio during the journey home mentioned it as the highlight of the second half.
ManU at Villa on a Wednesday night in a cup game. We won 1-0 thanks to Deano scoring in front of the Holte. The old Witton lane stand was full of ManU tossers giving it the big one. We played them in the league the following Saturday and beat them again 1-0 with Dalian getting the winner.
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Bannan attempting to win a header against Zigic at VP last season was very funny too.
I remember everyone starting laughing when that happened.
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ManU at Villa on a Wednesday night in a cup game. We won 1-0 thanks to Deano scoring in front of the Holte. The old Witton lane stand was full of ManU tossers giving it the big one. We played them in the league the following Saturday and beat them again 1-0 with Dalian getting the winner.
And still lost the league to them :-\.
Still, I suppose Ipswich probably say the same about us.
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One more, Blackburn at home last season in the FA Cup, bloke behind me in the Holte was slaughtering Robert Pires and announcing how crap he was. Cue a Pires goal. Virtually everyone around us in the vicinity turned round to needle him causing him a lot of embarrassment and humble grins.
I did the same (slate Pires) but had the sense to announce that I knew he would score if I gave him pelters - he played like a fooking traffic cone...
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Someone I know once roundly abused three players during a game, all of whom then scored. No names, but he shares something with Messrs Faulkner and McLeish.
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Was it Ipswich in the League Cup in 92-93 (2-2 draw I think, fucking Micky Stockwell) when two of their players had airshots straight after one another. The Holte collectively pissed itself laughing.
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Does anyone here remember an incident in 1995 vs QPR at home - Bosnich and Teale pushing each other around over who was going to take a free-kick. Bosnich's kicking wasnt the best so thankfully Teale took it and the resulting set-piece led to a goal for John Fashanu.
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The sending off of Dennis Smith, the Stoke centre half.
All of us on the Holte knew that he was going off as the referee was hiding the red card behind his back as he approached Smith.
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The Holte End singing "Merry Christmas Vinnie Jones" when we were 5-1 up.
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Yes i remember that. And Merry Xmas to Everton too on Boxing Day 2005.
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Or was it 5-0 and i'm getting mixed up with the 7-1?
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The Holte End chanting to Ian Wright - 'Wrighty's staying home' - at the end of the 98 season. In lieu of Wrighty not picked for the forthcoming World Cup.
He was shrugging his shoulders like he didn't care, but you could tell he was hurt by the chant.
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Chants of Keegan's playing golf during a game with Newcastle just after he had walked out the first time.
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Wimbledon again: when we went 5-1 up their fans at the North end started chanting "We want 6". Then when the 6th went in they ignored the rest of the game and joined in a conga behind the goal.
(I always liked the fans of the old Wimbledon: decent, civilised fans, but who supported a team of thugs, whereas West Ham a few years ago was exactly the opposite)
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One of Peter Schmeichel's first games in England for Man U at Villa Park. Someone threw some toilet roll from the Holte. He picked it up, looked bemused and handed it to a steward I think. Probably not that funny in hindsight.
When Dwight first arrived he was known for balancing the football on his head. I remember him doing this at the Witton Lane end in front of some away fans (possibly Notts Co or Sheff Utd - it was a night match c. 90/91) while there was a pause for a stoppage much to their delight
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Season 89/90, we signed Tony Cascarino who's goals were going to fire us to the the first division title, and his first, long awaited goal came against Norwich and was an own goal...! Wasn't funny at the time mind!
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Not sure the year, might have been one of Ridgwells early appearances from the bench. Anyway, Newcastle Make a sub, the stadium announcer goes " Replacing Warren Barton for Newcastle is.....Warren Barton" For most of the ground to suddenly burst into " There's only 2 Warren Bartons"
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That rings a bell you know. I also remember Villa being booed onto the pitch against Burnley in the 70's, They came out wearing all Claret track suit tops for some reason. We lost the game 0-3 so it was a portent! That being said, the Ronny Rosenthal miss has to be up there in any 'Amusing moments' list. Gales of derision from 40, 000 odd :)
The 3-0 loss to burnley still remains my least favourite match at villa park
That was the first home game of 1973 and one of the most one-sided I've ever seen. I and my father left with fifteen minutes to go it was that bad, and I'm a great believer in staying until the end.
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That rings a bell you know. I also remember Villa being booed onto the pitch against Burnley in the 70's, They came out wearing all Claret track suit tops for some reason. We lost the game 0-3 so it was a portent! That being said, the Ronny Rosenthal miss has to be up there in any 'Amusing moments' list. Gales of derision from 40, 000 odd :)
The 3-0 loss to burnley still remains my least favourite match at villa park
That was the first home game of 1973 and one of the most one-sided I've ever seen. I and my father left with fifteen minutes to go it was that bad, and I'm a great believer in staying until the end.
It was played in early January of the 72/73 season. We lost the away fixture 4-1
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after the Holte's Last Stand in the Holte a few people here and there were taking momentos such as bits of Holte End brick etc., when some guy emerged from the upper middle section victoriously holding aloft a genuwine used Holte End toilet seat - complete with lid - waving it around, a bit like how Neville Chamberlain declared 'peace in our time'.
I have wondered if he actually fitted it at home as eBay didnt exist in those days.
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Not at Villa Park but I'll always remember a rousing chorus of ' No heart, Souness has got no heart' at Anfield just after he had a bypass operation!. Cruel but funny.
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Not at Villa Park but I'll always remember a rousing chorus of ' No heart, Souness has got no heart' at Anfield just after he had a bypass operation!. Cruel but funny.
Hysterical.
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Not so much an amusing moment, but one of those which, looking back and with the benefit of hindsight, makes you laugh, but Christmas 89-90.
Two consecutive home matches, boxing day beating Man United 3-0, then four days later beating Arsenal 2-1. What a great christmas spell that was.
At the Man U game, we were singing "Fergie, Fergie on the dole" at Ferguson. I remember it being on the back page of the Sun the following day.
Oh how wrong we were.
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I'm pretty sure it was a christmas game against West Brom when young ladies were walking around the pitch throwing sweets into the crowd. Something like ten pence mix-ups. As they got to the away fans they threw the sweets into them only to see the sweets being thrown straight back at them. Had to admit to finding that very funny.
As for the Bannan jumping with Zigic, I remember one of the Wallace brothers jumping with Ormondroyd when we played either Southampton or Leeds. Thing is the small bloke scored and we lost 2-1. That wasn't very funny though.
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Not so much an amusing moment, but one of those which, looking back and with the benefit of hindsight, makes you laugh, but Christmas 89-90.
Two consecutive home matches, boxing day beating Man United 3-0, then four days later beating Arsenal 2-1. What a great christmas spell that was.
At the Man U game, we were singing "Fergie, Fergie on the dole" at Ferguson. I remember it being on the back page of the Sun the following day.
Oh how wrong we were.
Probably my favourite Christmas ever for Villa related stuff.
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I'm pretty sure it was a christmas game against West Brom when young ladies were walking around the pitch throwing sweets into the crowd. Something like ten pence mix-ups. As they got to the away fans they threw the sweets into them only to see the sweets being thrown straight back at them. Had to admit to finding that very funny.
I remember this happening at a couple of away matches - one may have been Bristol City and they were giving away crisps - terrible mess. Think there was a peanut seller at Old Trafford who got covered when he flashed his MUFC badge as well...
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Tony Daley on a run by the touchline, trinity side, and Ron Atkinson running alongside him on the cinder track urging him on.
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Not at Villa Park but I'll always remember a rousing chorus of ' No heart, Souness has got no heart' at Anfield just after he had a bypass operation!. Cruel but funny.
I remember as a kid when we played Man. City, chants to Asa Hartford - 'there's a hole in your heart dear Asa, dear Asa' to the tune of 'there's a hole in your bucket'.
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Amusing now, but not at the time.
Not sure who it was against, but we were losing at home.
Right near the end, George 'the leg-end' Boateng attempted to cross the ball, but as he swung his leg, his left foot hit the ball and it went out for a goal-kick, with Boateng falling to the floor.
Just about summed up the performance of the team that day.
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Keith Curle's 'deliberate' handball to give us a penalty against Citeh when we were going for the title with Manure. In the same match, Citeh fans (who were decent in them days) having a banner with 'Good luck Villa from the City of Manchester'.
A nothing league game at home to Derby late 80s~early 90s. I just remember the most amazing scramble in the box. About 15 players trying to get the ball on the penalty spot on a really muddy pitch. Eventually it somehow bounced to someone ~ who rammed it home to give us a 3~2 win.
Not funny at the time but funny in hindsight Les Sealey chasing George Courtney halfway up the pitch after spilling Nigel Jemsons header over the line against Wednesday.
God's scrap against Stuart Ripley in the Simod Cup.
Kevin Richardsons fantastic 'setup' of the odious Paul Tait to get him sent off against SHA in the League Cup.
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A nothing league game at home to Derby late 80s~early 90s. I just remember the most amazing scramble in the box. About 15 players trying to get the ball on the penalty spot on a really muddy pitch. Eventually it somehow bounced to someone ~ who rammed it home to give us a 3~2 win.
I remember this really well as it was 1991 and Tony Cascarino that scored. We were standing in an unusual position for us, Lower Holte at the side where it met the Trinitry Road, and we all just fell about laughing. It was like something from an under 10's match.
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Keith Curle's 'deliberate' handball to give us a penalty against Citeh when we were going for the title with Manure. In the same match, Citeh fans (who were decent in them days) having a banner with 'Good luck Villa from the City of Manchester'.
I was listening to that match on BRMB and George Gavin mentioned that he had been speaking to Curle before the match and he "joked" to George that if Villa need a goal, just knock it in my direction. A few minutes later the hand ball was given.
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At the Newcastle home game this season, when Paul McGrath was on the pitch at half time, there was an announcement in the second half for "Geordie McGrath" to contact a steward ;D Made me chuckle...
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Who's your next Messiah? Ant or Dec?
Sob On The Tyne!
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v Coventry shortly after the Holte was turned into all seater, boring game but paper aeroplanes flying everywhere on the Holte
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More 'not at VP'
The pantomime horse getting arrested at Anfield.
Elvis Presley at Leeds.
Adolf Hitler and Osama Bin Laden at Middlesbrough. The police tried to throw Hitler out at half time, but told Bin Laden he was OK.
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More 'not at VP'
The pantomime horse getting arrested at Anfield.
Elvis Presley at Leeds.
Adolf Hitler and Osama Bin Laden at Middlesbrough. The police tried to throw Hitler out at half time, but told Bin Laden he was OK.
"You ain't nothing but a bluenose, crying all the time" I seem to remember was Elvis's song.
I also remember scooby doo being chased around the Anfield away end by Liverpool stewards to chants of "You'll never take our scooby"
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I can remember a game about 64/65 against Man City when the fog came down heavily. In fact the ref abandoned the game.
But Ken Mulherne Citys goalie wasnt aware of what the ref was doing and neither were we in the Holte as the fog was so thick
It took five minutes for everything to be sorted out!
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Directed at Newcastle fans massed in the old Witton End and totally exposed to relentless, freezing sleet and to the tune of "Those Were The Days":
"We hope your foreskins shrink".
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Directed at Newcastle fans massed in the old Witton End and totally exposed to relentless, freezing sleet and to the tune of "Those Were The Days":
"We hope your foreskins shrink".
I remember, that followed by - "we hope you f****g drown!"
Didn't we play them one Christmas late 70's and the fog came down so we couldn't see the Witton from the Holte?
Won 2-1 I think - I had food poisoning that night - bastard Geordies.
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Can't remember the game but circa 2005, Ridgewell got the ball twatted in his face 3 times in the same goal mouth scramble.
Had me and my mate in stitches, I suppose it's the little things...
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I once punched my mate in the jaw during a celebration of an Ian Olny goal. One minute he was there the next he was flat on his back.
Made me laugh till it hurt!
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Directed at Newcastle fans massed in the old Witton End and totally exposed to relentless, freezing sleet and to the tune of "Those Were The Days":
"We hope your foreskins shrink".
I remember, that followed by - "we hope you f****g drown!"
Didn't we play them one Christmas late 70's and the fog came down so we couldn't see the Witton from the Holte?
Won 2-1 I think - I had food poisoning that night - bastard Geordies.
WW, I think it was the wonderful 1976-77 season as I was in the Witton End with my dad and he stopped going shortly after because of unemployment. IIRC, it may even have been the game after the Liverpool euphoria, and a 3-1 win at Leeds the previous weekend. A great birthday week for me!
And yes, we nearly drowned, and yes, my foreskin definitely shrank that afternoon.
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Sorry gents not at VP but the Sty. Blues were playing QPR about 1967 and at half time there was a fashion parade consisting of models parading around the cinder track in mini dresses.
In the Sunday Mercury next day their ace reporter said "The crowd did not appreciate this display and kept chanting Get them off!
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Sorry gents not at VP but the Sty. Blues were playing QPR about 1967 and at half time there was a fashion parade consisting of models parading around the cinder track in mini dresses.
In the Sunday Mercury next day their ace reporter said "The crowd did not appreciate this display and kept chanting Get them off!
I remember reading about that. They were there to advertise a boutique called Fanny.
Manna from heaven when it came to giving the bluenoses at school a hard time on Monday.