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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on July 09, 2011, 01:14:42 PM
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I don't think so (http://www.randylernerout.com/)
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what an absolute knobhead idea ...
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Stupid, stupid bunch of twats.
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They probably think they're doing the right thing but, as much as I'm starting to wonder about where the club is going, I don't support stuff like this. If for no other reason than it's badly written and factually incorrect.
Such as this bit:
"With the reckless decision to offer the much wanted job as a Villa manager to Alex McLeish Lerner has taken his irresponsibility to a new level. The decision is impossible to defend whatsoever. McLeish. A manager with no trophies in the cabinet. A manager with no experience from a top club. A manager with a reputation for going down, going up and then down again. The decision can not be defended from neither a financial nor a sporting point of view.
With his decision Lerner has disregarded our heritage and challenged all fans of Aston Villa Football Club all over the world, and claret and blue common sense."
What does that last sentence mean?
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Oh dear.
Any idea who might be behind this, is it some of our usual internet warriors?
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Must be a sad Bluenose.
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Oh dear.
Any idea who might be behind this, is it some of our usual internet warriors?
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I don't like the FAN STATEMENT headline. They're not speaking for me. I'm tempted to join that facebook group, just to tell them what a bunch of twats they're making themselves look. It's fans like this that make me want Mcleish to succeed even more.
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I don't like the FAN STATEMENT headline. They're not speaking for me. I'm tempted to join that facebook group, just to tell them what a bunch of twats they're making themselves look. It's fans like this that make me want Mcleish to succeed even more.
well said clampy! if they dont like things then no-one is forcing them to villa park- if you dont like it fuck off and support someone else and lets get behind the club and manager rather than give a few idiots the time of day.
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For goodness' sake. That really is just daft. Every time I hear or read something like this, I find myself increasing my support and goodwill for McLeish. Maybe I'm getting old, but that sort of nonsense really does get my goat.
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I don't like the FAN STATEMENT headline. They're not speaking for me. I'm tempted to join that facebook group, just to tell them what a bunch of twats they're making themselves look.
I just have!
Well it's Saturday and I'm not going to the pub for a while yet.
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I can't wait to read their responses to your contributions. Nice one.
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I expect some abuse!
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'It is to wage opposition with all our claret and blue might'
How fucking corny.
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Bunch of wankers.
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(http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/687fea91677be9103defb8dc0b97e8b7.gif)
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Utter c***s.
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Time to join the fun...
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Angry email sent. Will join the Facebook group in a minute.
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Good to see a few other HandVers coming out in force to slaughter them on the FB page.
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Surely it is a Bluenose on the wind up and he is getting exactly the sort of attention he wants?
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I don't like the FAN STATEMENT headline. They're not speaking for me. I'm tempted to join that facebook group, just to tell them what a bunch of twats they're making themselves look.
I just have!
Well it's Saturday and I'm not going to the pub for a while yet.
Saw it via Leeg, so decided to have a pop as well. Man, I feel ALIVE! Alive, I tells ya!
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These utter wankers certainly don't speak for me. Like most of us on here there are things that we all have opinions, things that we think the board could and probably should have done better. But to write complete nonsense like that belittles so much of what Randy has tried to do, and has done. It's just another stupid rant from people who in my opinon want to see us fail in order to be happy. Because they haven't been consulted on how to operate the club, who to buy, who to appoint, what brand of coffee to put at the concession stands, the colour of the kit, the type of grass used on the Villa Park pitch. These super Villains are now standing up for US fans. No you're fucking not. Feel free to speak for yourselves, but don't portray yourself as speaking for me.
The last thing we need is the media getting a hold of this and making us out to be even more small time than we have been made out to be at times this summer.
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I've told 'em!
Why do they want donations?
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bunch of pricks
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Email sent and comment posted on their Facebook wall.
Tossers.
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I might do the same.
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Agree fool. The problem with internet every arseholes have an opinion which we don't want to read from arseholes.
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Do you have to like their page to comment on their wall? Can't seem to be able to do it. But with our own fans like this who needs rivalry from other teams.
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Just so everyone knows, once you like the page and leave your comments, you can then unlike it and everything you've posted stays. Don't boost their numbers by keeping it liked.
And I'm not surprised by this, there's been people on here basically hoping McLeish will fail, so why would facebook be any different?
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Just so everyone knows, once you like the page and leave your comments, you can then unlike it and everything you've posted stays. Don't boost their numbers by keeping it liked.
And I'm not surprised by this, there's been people on here basically hoping McLeish will fail, so why would facebook be any different?
Thanks
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Dear lord, forgive them for they know not what they do!
Is there a doctor in the house?
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or a vet?
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Maybe I'm being thick, but I don't get the earlier post with the picture of Captain Sisko from star trek. What's that about?
Anyway, in reference to the statement, I don't get that either. Have they forgotten the Ellis years? We weren't exactly world beaters then were we? The way I see it, apart from last season, which most rational people realise got off to a very unfortunate start, every year has seen progress. Unfortunately, Randy Lerner has not got the financial clout to compete with the two Manchester clubs, Chelsea or Tottenham, but lets not make out that we're a club on the verge of bankruptcy either.
If I had a crystal ball, I'd happily let everyone know what next season has in store, but I haven't so for now all we can do is get behind the manager, the team, the chairman, and who knows if we all give it 110% support instead of continually moaning we all may be suprised at what the season has in store.
As for whoever created that statement, may I suggest you take your negativity elsewhere.
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I think it's his expression.
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Maybe I'm being thick, but I don't get the earlier post with the picture of Captain Sisko from star trek. What's that about?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facepalm
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Ah! Thanks. I get it now!
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Surely this is a nose on a wind up? I've left my thoughts on their wall anyway, it was a good excuse to steal an insult from Pets With Tourettes. I was going to pick apart the statement but it's so full of inaccuracies I don't think I'd have time.
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It's not how I feel they are just a bunch of twats why can't people like that just go away and never come back tossers.
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I don't mind people saying what they feel, but claiming to represent the majority is pure arseholery.
It's stuff like this which made it hard to go to VP at times last year, people seemingly hell-bent on having a ruinously bad time, and bringing everyone down with them.
And no I'm not talking about our defence.
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At least we're not the only set of supporters with a small minority of arseholes carrying out carrying out petty and counter-productive protests in the name of "freedom of speech".
linky (http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/fail/77642/snapshot-bayern-munich-fans-unfurl-huge-anti-manuel-neuer-protest-banner-at-pre-season-friendly.html)
Don't agree with banning the fans though, that's a bit ott.
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Whoever wrote that rubbish needs an English lesson:-
Lerners = Lerner's
compell = compel
The decision can not be defended from neither a financial nor a sporting point of view. = The decision cannot be defended from either a financial or a sporting point of view.
etc, etc
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Plus a History lesson. No trophies?
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Arghhhhh! I genuinly embarrassed by this. The protests were annoying me, this just dissapoints me. Were being given a bad name by these mindless fucking idiots. Such a shame
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I too have posted my opinion of their facebook group on their wall.
Knobs.
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Likes.
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I think you've gone a bit far with this idea Risso! ;)
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Well I've had a reply to the post I left on the wall of the "Boycott Villa Park" page -
"I hope your first born gets raped by a thousand Noses :)"
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Well I've had a reply to the post I left on the wall of the "Boycott Villa Park" page -
"I hope your first born gets raped by a thousand Noses :)"
It may be the copious amounts of beer I've drunk during the cricket but I'm not liking that group at all, it can only be WAR!!! Hmmm, now I need to think of something to post on there.
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The boycott Villa Park one?
I've got an idea already...
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UAVSAL hmmmm... How dare they use the word United in association with Aston Villa.
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F*ckin idoits!!!!!!!!
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It seems that he/she's biting on the boycott page, here's a link for anyone who's interested:
Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-Villa-Park-first-home-game-of-the-season/193390057378419?sk=wall)
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He (or maybe she) hopes I die of aids.
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Apparently I need to shag the daughter I don't have.
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I've posted. I'm waiting for a plague of locusts to be sent for me. I'll be gutted if I don't get any abuse ;-)
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He (or maybe she) hopes I die of aids.
I'd have said "yeah well that's not something you'll ever have to worry about, you can't get it from your right hand.
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The kind of rapier like wit you'd expect. Suppose every club has fans of the "thick ******" genre.
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Surely a wind up ?
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Whoever wrote that rubbish needs an English lesson:-
Lerners = Lerner's
compell = compel
The decision can not be defended from neither a financial nor a sporting point of view. = The decision cannot be defended from either a financial or a sporting point of view.
etc, etc
It got all the hallmarks of an official BCFC statement.
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"A manager with no trophies in the cabinet"
*ahem*
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Yeah, get the grammar right, and somebody might take notice. Maybe...
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I think you've gone a bit far with this idea Risso! ;)
How dare you, my grammar is immaculate!
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The grammar is correct: It's entitled "Fan Statement". He must be on his own.
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Well, according to a fan statement the answer is blowing wind.
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This motley crew are grotesquely pathetic but this should not obscure the probability that there is a growing apathy among sections of the supporter base.
I have very recently moved back to Brum having been away since 1982. Apart from 6 years in the US I was based in Brighton and for almost all of those years I had a season ticket with my 2 brothers, one based in Brum and another in Yorkshire. Both of them are not renewing this year, the *****s, so I am in the strange position of rescinding my season ticket at a point when the travel costs have reduced from £60 to less than £5. Oh well.
Neither of my brothers do the internet thing as far as Villa are concerned, and both were amazed when I spoke of disaffection for MoN on here and were already disaffected at GH's appointment (I was not) and devastated at the prospect AM(I am not saying this is typical).
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There is a spare in front of us in the Lower Holte, man. Sit there. Take in copious fine ales in The Bartons. That's the real reasons for the day out at football. The social side.
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nobody on here has a right to slag that facebook thing
we are without doubt THE MOST 2 faced c**ts that ever walked this earth
from the Sunday when Eck resigned, this place went into meltdown, then by Thursday night when the debacle was becoming the enivatable, the 2 faced crap came into play
this place has no right to slag that facebook stuff
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nobody on here has a right to slag that facebook thing
we are without doubt THE MOST 2 faced c**ts that ever walked this earth
from the Sunday when Eck resigned, this place went into meltdown, then by Thursday night when the debacle was becoming the enivatable, the 2 faced crap came into play
this place has no right to slag that facebook stuff
That's probably the biggest load of garbled nonsense I've ever read
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nobody on here has a right to slag that facebook thing
we are without doubt THE MOST 2 faced c**ts that ever walked this earth
from the Sunday when Eck resigned, this place went into meltdown, then by Thursday night when the debacle was becoming the enivatable, the 2 faced crap came into play
this place has no right to slag that facebook stuff
you really are completely and utterly barking mad.
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nobody on here has a right to slag that facebook thing
we are without doubt THE MOST 2 faced c**ts that ever walked this earth
from the Sunday when Eck resigned, this place went into meltdown, then by Thursday night when the debacle was becoming the enivatable, the 2 faced crap came into play
this place has no right to slag that facebook stuff
nobody on here has a right to slag that facebook thing
we are without doubt THE MOST 2 faced c**ts that ever walked this earth
from the Sunday when Eck resigned, this place went into meltdown, then by Thursday night when the debacle was becoming the enivatable, the 2 faced crap came into play
this place has no right to slag that facebook stuff
[/nobody on here has a right to slag that facebook thing
we are without doubt THE MOST 2 faced c**ts that ever walked this earth
from the Sunday when Eck resigned, this place went into meltdown, then by Thursday night when the debacle was becoming the enivatable, the 2 faced crap came into play
this place has no right to slag that facebook stuff
You what?
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Just put my 2 bobs worth on the face book page, I expect some abuse but as I have given some I will have no complaints :-)
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I've posted. I'm waiting for a plague of locusts to be sent for me. I'll be gutted if I don't get any abuse ;-)
I didn't get a plague, he hopes that I die soon.
It's not what I was hoping for but, I'll live with it for the remaining days that I have left in this life.
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nobody on here has a right to slag that facebook thing
we are without doubt THE MOST 2 faced c**ts that ever walked this earth
from the Sunday when Eck resigned, this place went into meltdown, then by Thursday night when the debacle was becoming the enivatable, the 2 faced crap came into play
this place has no right to slag that facebook stuff
Utter garbage
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That is possibly the worst most inaccurate misguided comment written about Villa by someone claiming to be a Villa fan I have ever seen in the 44 years I've been a supporter.
Assuming it isnt a bluenose wind-up I am sure nearly everybody will give it the laughable disdain it deserves.
The only possible problem is that if we start the season with a couple of reverses, it is exactly this sort of garbage that the media will latch onto and feed to the more easily influenced panic ridden type of fan.
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nobody on here has a right to slag that facebook thing
we are without doubt THE MOST 2 faced c**ts that ever walked this earth
from the Sunday when Eck resigned, this place went into meltdown, then by Thursday night when the debacle was becoming the enivatable, the 2 faced crap came into play
this place has no right to slag that facebook stuff
You're sounding like ATAL there. In fact, isn't ATAL Irish too?
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I don't use Facebook so haven't posted my opinion of the bollocks being spouted. I may be missing something but is the boycott of VP being proposed by a guy who lives in Phoenix, Arizona? Fair play to him - that must have been a hell of a round trip for him prior to his boycott and puts my normal round trip of 60 miles to shame.
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The Boycott VP page is by someone called Rob Derry, I think.
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Thanks Leeg - my bad
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nobody on here has a right to slag that facebook thing
we are without doubt THE MOST 2 faced c**ts that ever walked this earth
from the Sunday when Eck resigned, this place went into meltdown, then by Thursday night when the debacle was becoming the enivatable, the 2 faced crap came into play
this place has no right to slag that facebook stuff
I didn't and I absolutely reserve the right to slag off daft twats who make up fucking stupid Facebook pages.
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The Boycott VP page is by someone called Rob Derry, I think.
I know him, I used to live next door to him in fact. His dad was the reason I am a Villa fan, he used to take us down to most home games. Great bloke, I can't remember his son being such a ****** though.
The same Rob Derry was also in these very pages following a racist rant during the World Cup if I remember rightly.
If it really is him someone should remind him that when his dad, his brother John and I were supporting Vila in the Saunders days, he was a Leicester City fan.
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sorry im wrong ::)
everybody on H & V was over the moon with big Eck being appointed
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sorry im wrong ::)
everybody on H & V was over the moon with big Eck being appointed
Of course we was'nt, i was against it, but being a fan involves getting behind your team, not making up a facebook page urging people not to go and telling people they're going to be raped. Join the group if you want to, you won't be missed.
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sorry im wrong ::)
everybody on H & V was over the moon with big Eck being appointed
There's a difference between having reservations about the manager and claiming to be the true voice of Villa fans or calling for boycotts.
These ****** don't speak for me.
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sorry im wrong ::)
It's 'I'm'.
And yes you are, in almost every post you make.
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If only we knew his email address...
EDIT: fair one, Adam. Sorry.
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sorry im wrong ::)
everybody on H & V was over the moon with big Eck being appointed
There's a difference between having reservations about the manager and claiming to be the true voice of Villa fans or calling for boycotts.
These c***s don't speak for me.
Quite.
It was bad enough with the VFC lot, these boneheads are worse.
Ignoring them would be the best bet, rather than replying to them, before you know it the media will be onto it with 'Villa fans at war with each other' and all that toilet.
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If only we knew his email address...
*****@yahoo.com
That's a bit reckless.
He can be contacted through his silly Facebook page - dishing out his private email address to the world is wrong.
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His FB page has been removed.
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His FB page has been removed.
OK fine. Doesn't make giving his personal email address out right though.
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nobody on here has a right to slag that facebook thing
we are without doubt THE MOST 2 faced c**ts that ever walked this earth
from the Sunday when Eck resigned, this place went into meltdown, then by Thursday night when the debacle was becoming the enivatable, the 2 faced crap came into play
this place has no right to slag that facebook stuff
I was one of the few who welcomed the idea. Does this make me a 2 faced c***?
I believe I have a right to have a go at somebody speaking for me when he isnt
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His FB page has been removed.
OK fine. Doesn't make giving his personal email address out right though.
Your right of course. But it is still only his e mail address.
Its not like someone has given out his home address, his place of work, his home landline number and mobile number, the names of any alleged friends and associates, which vet he takes his cute little kitten to etc etc.
Just let me know if he has a horse and which side of the bed he sleeps.
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Ha! It was Rob Derry. He has messaged me to call me a ****** and also to tell me he is going to "hunt me down and make me regret ever crossing him".
He also told me never to have a go at his dad. Now don't get me wrong, but I believe I said that his dad was a great bloke who introduced me to The Villa, and it was Rob himself who hoped my mom would die of AIDS.
He was a Leicester fan when he was 14/15 by the way.
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Can I have your season ticket if he kills you ?
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Can I have your season ticket if he kills you ?
Dave hasn't got one, he's too busy boycotting!
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Can I have your season ticket if he kills you ?
Why would you want to watch Tamworth?
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I don't like the FAN STATEMENT headline. They're not speaking for me. I'm tempted to join that facebook group, just to tell them what a bunch of twats they're making themselves look.
I just have!
Well it's Saturday and I'm not going to the pub for a while yet.
I'll read the rest of this thread later when I have some more time, but if this was FaceBook I'll stick a thumb up and I say I like this. Well done Dave.
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Ha! It was Rob Derry. He has messaged me to call me a c*** and also to tell me he is going to "hunt me down and make me regret ever crossing him".
He also told me never to have a go at his dad. Now don't get me wrong, but I believe I said that his dad was a great bloke who introduced me to The Villa, and it was Rob himself who hoped my mom would die of AIDS.
He was a Leicester fan when he was 14/15 by the way.
Sounds like he's ready to 'put his fists on you.'
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He was a Leicester fan when he was 14/15 by the way.
Love it, true supporters?.... yeah of Leicester City. Ha, Ha.
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Even funnier.
Just had a message from his brother who confirms all of our suspicions:
"Rob has been a twat for ages, he got into drugs and then a couple of years ago fell in with a right bunch of ****** who were into the EDL and shit. We don't really talk to him now, and if we do he only tries to get money off us, fuck him."
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Even funnier.
Just had a message from his brother who confirms all of our suspicions:
"Rob has been a twat for ages, he got into drugs and then a couple of years ago fell in with a right bunch of c***s who were into the EDL and shit. We don't really talk to him now, and if we do he only tries to get money off us, fuck him."
Mr Coops, we salute you!
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Ha! It was Rob Derry. He has messaged me to call me a c*** and also to tell me he is going to "hunt me down and make me regret ever crossing him".
He also told me never to have a go at his dad. Now don't get me wrong, but I believe I said that his dad was a great bloke who introduced me to The Villa, and it was Rob himself who hoped my mom would die of AIDS.
He was a Leicester fan when he was 14/15 by the way.
Sounds like he's ready to 'put his fists on you.'
Theres no pre season friendlies at Villa Park. Lets get it on !
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nobody on here has a right to slag that facebook thing
we are without doubt THE MOST 2 faced c**ts that ever walked this earth
from the Sunday when Eck resigned, this place went into meltdown, then by Thursday night when the debacle was becoming the enivatable, the 2 faced crap came into play
this place has no right to slag that facebook stuff
No, ok so most was not happy, I think mostly for me was I was a little shocked but it is still Aston Villa Football Club. Would it not be better to get behind the Manager, players, club and all involved and enjoy it?
No point sending yourself to an early grave is it?
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Meh
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It's not fair to say AM has no trophies in the cabinet. He won the Carling Cup with Blues. It's not his fault they had never seen the need to buy a cabinet in their history.
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Jesus wept
its on facebook
FACEBOOK - for teenagers and sadsacks that didnt get on with anybody at school
i think we all know what category the people getting their knickers in a twist on here fall into
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Jesus wept
its on facebook
FACEBOOK - for teenagers and sadsacks that didnt get on with anybody at school
You were defending them a while back. Now you're calling them sad sacks.
I'd give up now, you're making yourself look very stupid.
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Jesus wept
its on facebook
FACEBOOK - for teenagers and sadsacks that didnt get on with anybody at school
You were defending them a while back. Now you're calling them sad sacks.
I'd give up now, you're making yourself look very stupid.
ok clampy
i wasnt defending them; i was merely stating how 2 faced this site is
are you understanding now?
dont reply,
you will only make yourself look even more stupid ::)
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Jesus wept
its on facebook
FACEBOOK - for teenagers and sadsacks that didnt get on with anybody at school
You were defending them a while back. Now you're calling them sad sacks.
I'd give up now, you're making yourself look very stupid.
ok clampy
i wasnt defending them; i was merely stating how 2 faced this site is
If that's how you feel, then feel free to leave us whenever you like. Like i said earlier, you won't be missed.
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Jesus wept
its on facebook
FACEBOOK - for teenagers and sadsacks that didnt get on with anybody at school
You were defending them a while back. Now you're calling them sad sacks.
I'd give up now, you're making yourself look very stupid.
ok clampy
i wasnt defending them; i was merely stating how 2 faced this site is
If that's how you feel, then feel free to leave us whenever you like. Like i said earlier, you won't be missed.
tell you what Clampy
BAN ME
if you can ::)
are you on facebook by any chance?
it seems to have touched a nerve with you sweetheart
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Jesus wept
its on facebook
FACEBOOK - for teenagers and sadsacks that didnt get on with anybody at school
You were defending them a while back. Now you're calling them sad sacks.
I'd give up now, you're making yourself look very stupid.
ok clampy
i wasnt defending them; i was merely stating how 2 faced this site is
If that's how you feel, then feel free to leave us whenever you like. Like i said earlier, you won't be missed.
tell you what Clampy
BAN ME
if you can ::)
are you on facebook by any chance?
it seems to have touched a nerve with you sweetheart
Oh dear.
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Jesus wept
its on facebook
FACEBOOK - for teenagers and sadsacks that didnt get on with anybody at school
You were defending them a while back. Now you're calling them sad sacks.
I'd give up now, you're making yourself look very stupid.
ok clampy
i wasnt defending them; i was merely stating how 2 faced this site is
If that's how you feel, then feel free to leave us whenever you like. Like i said earlier, you won't be missed.
tell you what Clampy
BAN ME
if you can ::)
are you on facebook by any chance?
it seems to have touched a nerve with you sweetheart
Oh dear.
oh dear is right sweetheart
you seem to have taken offence to a few of my posts
i thought thats what football is about - different opinions
if its different from yours, i should leave this site?
ok then ;D
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it seems to have touched a nerve with you sweetheart
I think he's just a little bemused by people acting like dicks.
Both on that site and this one.
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it seems to have touched a nerve with you sweetheart
I think he's just a little bemused by people acting like dicks.
Both on that site and this one.
Dave, its Facebook
anyone getting their knickers in a twist about a facebook site, needs help
i know i get my knickers in a twist about lack of signings, about who we are selling etc etc
thats football
well done in stepping in by the way
how many thousands of posts does clampy have?
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I think you should probably have a little lie down.
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I think you should probably have a little lie down.
::)
ok the Clampy was right all along
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Has the Facebook page been taken down now?
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nobody on here has a right to slag that facebook thing
we are without doubt THE MOST 2 faced c**ts that ever walked this earth
from the Sunday when Eck resigned, this place went into meltdown, then by Thursday night when the debacle was becoming the enivatable, the 2 faced crap came into play
this place has no right to slag that facebook stuff
Your posts are increasingly resembling the type of nonsense you'd see smeared on walls in shit. Do us a favour and stop accessing the internet, or engaging in conversations with other humans, thanks.
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what the hell is facebook?
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what the hell is facebook?
It's very like this... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGTJGDmdMjs&feature=fvst)
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I'd also be very interested in seeing how "not wanting McLeish but willing to give him an opportunity to prove us wrong" equates to two-facedness. If you could explain it in as simply as possible, madirishloon, I'd appreciate it. We all aren't blessed with as obvious a level of intellect as yourself, you see.
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Anyone remember this old song...
Villa when Lerner leaves
Im Villa when Lerner leaves
I Know I Am
Im Sure I
Am
Im Villa when Lerner leaves.
Me neither.
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Jesus wept
its on facebook
FACEBOOK - for teenagers and sadsacks that didnt get on with anybody at school
i think we all know what category the people getting their knickers in a twist on here fall into
Christ on a bike.
This is an internet football forum
AN INTERNET FOOTBALL FORUM etc etc
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Reading the threads recently on the forum has got me thinking.
For me it just shows what the appointment of Mcleish has done to the fans of this club.
Its causing arguments and a feeling of hatred which runs through the supporters (and thats just on this site) the season hasnt even started yet.
I am not a Mcleish fan and i think his appointment was just an inept panick signing by lerner and the board which took no consideration for the fans into account.
The fact he was a bluenose is bad, but the guy has had protests against him before (at Rangers) finishing third in a 2 horse race etc, relegation battles with Motherwell, the worst Rangers record against Celtic ever, 2 relegations with Blues, boring defensive football.
I dont believe that he was the best guy for the job, Mr lerner does and its him who pays the wages so fair enough, but its a 50-50 gamble on his part and for a guy who up to now has been hero worshiped its a brave decision.
But would ANY villa fan have agreed with his appointment at the end of last season - No way!
If we would have appointed any other manager, we would all be looking forward to the season and getting behind the team and you wouldnt have this aggresive banter on the forums, we would all be singing off the same hymn sheet.
As it is Mcleish you have the optimists who say back him anyway, good, thats your opinion.
However, there are many fans who wont back him and will stay away. It doesnt make them any less of a supporter it just shows they have their own minds and wont back every decision made by the board.
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He's not a 'Bluenose'. He's simply someone doing his job, I didn't want him either but as he has been appointed our manager I'll back him to the hilt. I'm looking forward to next season and hope he proves a lot of people wrong. Up the Villa. Always. Regardless of who is in charge.
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Its causing arguments and a feeling of hatred which runs through the supporters (and thats just on this site) the season hasnt even started yet.
It's like this every summer. It's what we do.
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Legion, Figure of speech "bluenose"
Once you've played/represented the "other side" thats it, you get tagged with the label.
Stevie Gerrard, shearer and Thierry Henry are only "doing a job" but they would never sign for Man Utd, Sunderland or Spurs! It would never happen. They would always be tagged "scouser, geordie and Gooner"
Managers are no different in my opinion.
Fair enough he has got a job to do and as a fan i hope he does prove everyone wrong, but would you gamble the reputation of the club in doing it? And its status in the Prem League?
Dave, fair comment, but not when we signed O'neil.
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I am some agreement with the point's gjh ,but trying to stay as positive as i can,we desperately need some good news/signing's to lift the spirit's otherwise i fear mcleish won't be given long by fan's who will be waiting for an excuse to critisise his appointment.
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I have a degree of frustration with sections of the villa support who constantly moan and have a general air of negativity.Im not saying that Steve mclaren was my first choice but i feel the decision not to interview him may have been influenced by fan disapproval.If this is the case then those villa fans have got who they deserve.I cant really knock Mr Lerner as a significant proportion of our support will never be happy and i wouldnt be surprised if he has had enough of listening to the fans.I was very surprised by the move for mcleish and i just dont feel that i can step foot inside villa park whilst he is in charge.Im not going to list the many reasons why but it has been the most difficult decision i have ever made in many years of following the villa
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That's a bit "negative" dom ? although i won't diagree ,everyone entitled to their own opinion.
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I honestly and truely could'nt give a shit that he's from 'the other side' if that what's it's called. The Gerrard and Shearer comparisions are poor anyway, bearing in mind they both play/played for their hometown club and McCleish is Scottish.
I did'nt want him here because i did'nt think his previous record in management was good enough and i still think that, but i'll be down at Fulham on the opening day getting behind him and the team, because as fans we need to, whether our manager is McCleish or Mourinho.
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Always said there should be an IQ test in place before you can use the internet. Signing up for facebook or twitter within the 1st 24 hours should get you cut off for a month to think things over. Visit the Apple site - life ban.
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What difference does it make if he's scottish??
Fergie to Liverpool?
Lennon to Rangers?
Some things in football wouldn't happen, this is one of those things!
Last time it did happen - Graham to spurs, lasted one season booed every home game. Was forced to resign. Even won the Yids a trophy!
See my point?
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What difference does it make if he's scottish??
Fergie to Liverpool?
Lennon to Rangers?
Some things in football wouldn't happen, this is one of those things!
Last time it did happen - Graham to spurs, lasted one season booed every home game. Was forced to resign. Even won the Yids a trophy!
See my point?
Yes, but at the end of the day it's like this, him being ex-blues dose'nt bother me in the slightest, but you're not happy with it. I think we should leave it at that personally.
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we desperately need some good news/signing's to lift the spirit's otherwise i fear mcleish won't be given long by fan's who will be waiting for an excuse to critisise his appointment.
New signings or not I would think he'll get less time than most previous managers.
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What difference does it make if he's scottish??
Fergie to Liverpool?
Lennon to Rangers?
Some things in football wouldn't happen, this is one of those things!
Last time it did happen - Graham to spurs, lasted one season booed every home game. Was forced to resign. Even won the Yids a trophy!
See my point?
Peter Withe.
If AMcL had slagged us off at every opportunity while he was blues manager, then i'd probably be of the opinion that he couldn't be accepted as Villa manager, and if I'm being honest, I'd probably not give him as much of a chance as I am. But the fact is, he was very complimentary of us every time he spoke of us, so I don't really think it should be as much of an issue as it is.
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Reading the threads recently on the forum has got me thinking.
For me it just shows what the appointment of Mcleish has done to the fans of this club.
Its causing arguments and a feeling of hatred which runs through the supporters (and thats just on this site) the season hasnt even started yet.
No.
It's causing a few people to lose their heads and all sense of perspective and it's causing the rest of us to laugh at you.
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What difference does it make if he's scottish??
Fergie to Liverpool?
Lennon to Rangers?
Some things in football wouldn't happen, this is one of those things!
Last time it did happen - Graham to spurs, lasted one season booed every home game. Was forced to resign. Even won the Yids a trophy!
See my point?
No.
I think AM will turn out to be a dreadful appointment, but am going to give him a chance.
I also think you're living in a dream world if you think he's going to get booed every game. He's not. This is not one of those things you described. He was at Blues for 3 and a bit years. It's not like he's Trevor Francis.
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I just don't understand the Lerner Out argument. What would be good? He gives away the club for free - to who? Unless Carlos Slim (or someone of his ilk) suddenly declares his love for the Villa and desire to buy the club, what are these guys trying to achieve?
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[quote author=GJH link=topic=44149.msg1837483#msg1837483 date=131041585
I am not a Mcleish fan and i think his appointment was just an inept panick signing by lerner and the board which took no consideration for the fans into account.
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I was told over the weekend by a club employee that far from being a 'panic' signing, Eck was first choice from the start and was actually discretely sounded out when MON spat his dummy out last year.
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And my paperboy told me that the New of the World was listening in on the other phone in the bedroom
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What was your paperboy doing in your bedroom?
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For me it just shows what the appointment of Mcleish has done to the fans of this club.
Its causing arguments and a feeling of hatred which runs through the supporters (and thats just on this site) the season hasnt even started yet.
I already hated most of the people on this site well before Alex Mcleish was appointed.
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Here we go again (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Protest-against-Randy-Lerner-and-Alex-McLeish/251264748220808)
Let rip, fellow Villa fans...
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Another one for you (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Randy-Lerner-Out/152989174774086?sk=wall)
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Another one for you (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Randy-Lerner-Out/152989174774086?sk=wall)
I would'nt bother from now on. The less attention they get, the better.
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I like the way they get ripped apart.
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But the Qatari Royal family? surely? They turn up every week. Give them a chance, etc etc.
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Villa on the phone again tonight about 6.30pm (2nd time i've spoken to them)
Asked me why i havent renewed after having a ST for the last 16 years and being an away ticket member etc
Had a really good chat with the guy in the ticket office and told him:
1. Increase in prices (again) across the league not just the Villa
2. Selling our best players (again)
3. Appointment of Alex Mcleish.
4. Overpaid players who couldnt give a toss
He said; for the benefit of feedback to the club then its because we've appointed Alex Mcleish!You're not the first person to say that!
Probably having to phone after 6pm to save on the telephone bill to the 10,000 fans who havent renewed yet.
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Again your telling us. Do you like repeating yourself ?
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In what respect? Ian?
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GJH - I couldn't give a cack.
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I'm sure, unless I'm mistaken you have posted a few times the same post about Villa calling and your reply saying......
Never mind I might be have deja vu.
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Oh yea sorry i have- on the thread that says "phone calls from the villa....."
That was the first time they phoned me, this was the second. Sorry that i am repeating myself so much.
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Yet another (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Aston-Villa-Supporters-Request-the-Qatari-Royal-Family-to-buyout-AVFC/162291127177237)
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Are all these sites/pages being set up by different people?
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What was your paperboy doing in your bedroom?
The same as the club employee being privy to inside information, he wasn't there
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What was your paperboy doing in your bedroom?
The same as the club employee being privy to inside information, he wasn't there
Yawn. Ok, I make up baseless shit for the sake of it
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Nope, just passing on information which mostly likely isn't true.
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Brilliant
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Marvellous!
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fuck me they're thick