Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Shrek on July 07, 2011, 06:59:18 AM
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Doug is on Talksport about 8.50 this morning, should be interesting to hear his thoughts.
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Interesting if they ask interesting questions. Is it still balloon head and some cricketer at that time ?
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Any chance someone could put the main points on here? Not aloud to change radio stations at work
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Any chance someone could put the main points on here? Not aloud to change radio stations at work
Dont worry. The fact the words Doug & Ellis are in the title ensures this thread will get plenty of contributions.
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He thinks Alex McLeish is an excellent choice, as he played under Ferguson at Aberdeen.
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He also says he wasn't going to sell to anybody who needed to borrow money, and Randy was the only one of five candidates who had "real money." He is "absolutely sure" we can get back to the glory days of 81/82 as the ground, the training ground and the academy (which he set up, of course) are top notch and we are a "very big club." He is convinced we will go from strength to strength, as we have a very good owner. Villa are not a selling club, despite how the window looks this season.
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Villa fans need to be patient and get behind McLeish and the team. And that's it!
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He also thinks we're playing Blackburn on the opening day of the season and that he passed on to RL everything that's good at the club.
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He also thinks we're playing Blackburn on the opening day of the season and that he passed on to RL everything that's good at the club.
In fairness, he actually said our first home game is against Blackburn on August 20th.
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Heard the interview but nothing really much interesting about it. was a bit pointless if you ask me. He honestly believes that the glory days can one day return to Villa - not sure how he came up with that idea?
Villa fans just need to be patient and get behind Mcleish. Nothing else really interesting was talked about.
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Asked about Mcleish being told to retain existing backroom staff rather than bringing in his own people he was careful to not say too much and instead praised Randy.
Asked if Villa are a selling club, he gave an emphatic No. He talked about having a big squad and sometimes the need for a certain amount of culling.
Generally speaking the short interview was a chance for Doug to have a bit of self promotion, such as him going into detail about all his work with the academies. He heaped praise on the present administration and new management and spoke in nothing but positive terms for the future, which is what I would expect from the the clubs life President.
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Whichever way you dress it up Villa ARE are selling club. The consistent selling of Barry, Milner, Young and soon Downing backs that theory up. The drain of top talent will continue as the players can't see top-four status or even top-six anytime soon. Lerner will not commit the significant funds required to take this club to the very highest level.
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And on the seventh day god (aka Doug) created Aston Villa, and all was rosie in the garden of Villa Park.
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Did he mention the bicycle kick? He invented it you know.
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Villafirst - I agree with you, but every club apart from a select few is a selling club, aren't they? A bit of a pointless question by Alan Brazil. And with regards to Doug saying we'll be back in the big time at some point, it's quite refreshing to hear a bit of optimism!
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Whichever way you dress it up Villa ARE are selling club. The consistent selling of Barry, Milner, Young and soon Downing backs that theory up. The drain of top talent will continue as the players can't see top-four status or even top-six anytime soon. Lerner will not commit the significant funds required to take this club to the very highest level.
Youre right, how can he say we are not a selling club when we always sell our best players? He went on to sya that when you look at the match day programme, the villa squad is always bigger than the opposition! WTF!?! Im sure the squad printed in the programmes is made up of the reserves and youth players as well as the first team! Rather than selling the best players, we should be selling the deadwood to reduce that number.
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When HDE mentions the word culling I wonder how many managers still feel their collars nervously?
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He also said not to worry about signing a goalie , as he said he can easily fill in that position .
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Did he mention the bicycle kick? He invented it you know.
No he didnt, but as it was radio he did say he tried to sign Guglielmo Marconi before getting Benito Carbone.
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Heard the interview but nothing really much interesting about it. was a bit pointless if you ask me. He honestly believes that the glory days can one day return to Villa - not sure how he came up with that idea?
Because he's got faith, like a fan? Crazy I know.
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Heard the interview but nothing really much interesting about it. was a bit pointless if you ask me. He honestly believes that the glory days can one day return to Villa - not sure how he came up with that idea?
Because he's got faith, like a fan? Crazy I know.
Personally, I can't ever see it happening unless which get a rich Sheik (spelling :o :o???) or if all the teams above us some how lose all their players and they are left with the reserve team.
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Heard the interview but nothing really much interesting about it. was a bit pointless if you ask me. He honestly believes that the glory days can one day return to Villa - not sure how he came up with that idea?
Because he's got faith, like a fan? Crazy I know.
Personally, I can't ever see it happening unless which get a rich Sheik (spelling :o :o???) or if all the teams above us some how lose all their players and they are left with the reserve team.
Maybe you're right, but if you lose all hope you might as well just give up supporting.
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Heard the interview but nothing really much interesting about it. was a bit pointless if you ask me. He honestly believes that the glory days can one day return to Villa - not sure how he came up with that idea?
Because he's got faith, like a fan? Crazy I know.
Personally, I can't ever see it happening unless which get a rich Sheik (spelling :o :o???) or if all the teams above us some how lose all their players and they are left with the reserve team.
Maybe you're right, but if you lose all hope you might as well just give up supporting.
Its not about losing hope, its about being realistic. Why hold onto hope of becoming something you will not? In the modern game, its called being realistic. and nope, I wont stop supporting villa just because I do not believe we will dominate.
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Doug's far from perfect and his self promotion has driven me nuts for years; however he'll see a lot more of Villa Park than many of our equally opinionated contributors next season that's for sure.
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Heard the interview but nothing really much interesting about it. was a bit pointless if you ask me. He honestly believes that the glory days can one day return to Villa - not sure how he came up with that idea?
Because he's got faith, like a fan? Crazy I know.
Personally, I can't ever see it happening unless which get a rich Sheik (spelling :o :o???) or if all the teams above us some how lose all their players and they are left with the reserve team.
Maybe you're right, but if you lose all hope you might as well just give up supporting.
Its not about losing hope, its about being realistic.
I honestly don't see the difference between the two the way you're talking.
EDIT: I came back and saw this post looked like a right dog's dinner. This new forum has been a pain in the arse since it started.
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Whichever way you dress it up Villa ARE are selling club. The consistent selling of Barry, Milner, Young and soon Downing backs that theory up. The drain of top talent will continue as the players can't see top-four status or even top-six anytime soon. Lerner will not commit the significant funds required to take this club to the very highest level.
Agree with you about the selling club bit but to be fair Randy committed significant funds only for MON to piss much of it up the wall on the likes of Davies, Beye, Sidwell and Harewood. Not all his signings were bad by any means but for every Ashley Young there was an Emile Heskey. Solid but unspectacular and unlikely to push us on that last step. If he'd bought Darren Bent when he was first available we may have broken the glass ceiling of 4th and the finances would then have been self-perpetuating. The fact that our wage bill is such a significant slice of our turnover backs the fact that Randy has made funds available, but having missed the boat when we had the opportunity I for one can understand why he's having to reign things in.
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Whichever way you dress it up Villa ARE are selling club. The consistent selling of Barry, Milner, Young and soon Downing backs that theory up. The drain of top talent will continue as the players can't see top-four status or even top-six anytime soon. Lerner will not commit the significant funds required to take this club to the very highest level.
So are Arsenal also a selling club ? They sold Overmars, Petit, Viera, Henry, Clichey and are about to lose Nasri and Fabregas
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Very few clubs aren't 'selling clubs.'
We certainly are in the main, we can't dispute that after Barry, Milner, Young .......
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Whichever way you dress it up Villa ARE are selling club. The consistent selling of Barry, Milner, Young and soon Downing backs that theory up. The drain of top talent will continue as the players can't see top-four status or even top-six anytime soon. Lerner will not commit the significant funds required to take this club to the very highest level.
So are Arsenal also a selling club ? They sold Overmars, Petit, Viera, Henry, Clichey and are about to lose Nasri and Fabregas
Yes they are. Fortunately for them, though, they have a manager with a keen eye for young European players and bargains. (Mind you, I think Wenger's pool of young French talent is drying up which could make for an interesting future for Arsenal.)
Having a manager who can work such a system is a great boon for any club. Can McLeish be our Wenger?
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Every club is a selling club, Liverpool sold Rush, Keegan, Owen Torres. Man. Utd sold Ronaldo, Beckham, Tevez. Man city and Chelsea move players in and out faster than anyone. Spurs sold Berbatov Defoe, Gascoigne. Keane etc. The list goes on. ALL players have their price. The real point is to replace with as good. Selling doesn't bother me, unlike us fans, they come and they go. Failing to replace with players as good if not better would be a concern. But the jurys still out on that one.
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Agree about every club is a selling club, with the exception of Small Heath. Apart from Francis in the 70s the rest had to be jettisoned cos they're shit and couldnt realise any money.
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He also thinks we're playing Blackburn on the opening day of the season and that he passed on to RL everything that's good at the club.
In fairness, he actually said our first home game is against Blackburn on August 20th.
Oh did he? I misheard him, sorry!
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Made me laugh when he basically answered the question he wanted to answer at times not the ones they had asked !! - The only point I dont agree with is the comment about the squads of teams we play on the back of the program being more than we have - this is somehting I have been looking at for years and we really have more than the team we are playing
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Made me laugh when he basically answered the question he wanted to answer at times not the ones they had asked !! - The only point I dont agree with is the comment about the squads of teams we play on the back of the program being more than we have - this is somehting I have been looking at for years and we really have more than the team we are playing
He'd have made a great politician - and his hearing is on the blink.
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Did he mention he was responsible for signing Dwight Yorke? he usually does.
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Thanks chaps. Sounds positive. We need to be patient re success, it doesn't just happen.
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Thanks for posting the comments