Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Rip Van We Go Again on June 24, 2011, 03:20:38 PM
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Midfielder Fabian Delph has admitted Aston Villa will struggle to replace former team-mate Ashley Young following his dream move to Manchester United.
Young completed his switch to Old Trafford yesterday, and Delph believes the men he left behind will miss him not just for his pace and skill, but also his work-rate.
The midfielder told the Birmingham Mail: "It happens all the time, it's football. People come and go and you have just got to deal with it and just keep going.
"I don't think he could be replaced, to be honest with you. His all-round work ethic was absolutely unbelievable. He must have run twice as much as most people on the pitch.
"With his goals and assists, it will be very hard to replace him - but if we can get somebody here half as good as him, then he would still be a great player.
"You get a lot of players who are not selfish, but do more of their work in the attacking half of the pitch, whereas Youngy is up and down, when he's on the right-hand side especially, working hard for the boys.
"The lads appreciate that from a winger who has flair, but still wants to graft."
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We're not about to spend 20 million on a similar player so in that regard it's going to be hard to replace him directly. We just need to find another way to win. Great players leave teams all the time, the best teams find new ways to win. It will be a big challenge but we can do it with the right blends of players and commitment.
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We're not about to spend 20 million on a similar player so in that regard it's going to be hard to replace him directly. We just need to find another way to win. Great players leave teams all the time, the best teams find new ways to win. It will be a big challenge but we can do it with the right blends of players and commitment.
Great players leave our team every summer would be a more accurate assessment.
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He wasn't a great player and we will replace him. Let's not forget that for the last season ans half he has been frustrating and mostly ineffective. He is not a Brian or a Sid type of proper great player.
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Young leaving is not a wrench when Barry or Milner left for me. We have super Marc who can fill the gap and other midfielders who should come on this season - Delph for example.
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He's a big loss, we need top quality to replace him. I think it's a case that some people have forgotten how good he actually is.
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We're not about to spend 20 million on a similar player so in that regard it's going to be hard to replace him directly. We just need to find another way to win. Great players leave teams all the time, the best teams find new ways to win. It will be a big challenge but we can do it with the right blends of players and commitment.
Great players leave our team every summer would be a more accurate assessment.
every summer for the past 3 which is a bit of an anomaly. It happens to every club though, we're just not paying as much attention to it.
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It all depends on how the money is re-invested.
Spurs are the classic example. They sold Berbatov and Keane, (their best two players) and spent the money very wisely, making them much stronger than with Berbatov and Keane.
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He'll eventually be replaced by another young and talented player who we will sell to Manchester United.
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"I don't think he could be replaced, to be honest with you. His all-round work ethic was absolutely unbelievable. He must have run twice as much as most people on the pitch.
This for me is what we'll miss from him more than anything.
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It is losing key players like Delaney, Mellberg, Bouma, Laursen, Carew and Friedel for nothing in the last 4 yrs that has caused us as many problems as losing Barry, Milner and Young, at least we got decent fees for these guys that we could reinvest.
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I think what we will miss more about young is his work rate. He never stopped running and showed alot of energy. We'll also miss the amount of free kicks he won for us in dangerous positions.
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I think what we will miss more about young is his work rate. He never stopped running and showed alot of energy. We'll also miss the amount of free kicks he won for us in dangerous positions.
I agree with you Rick.
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He wasn't a great player and we will replace him. Let's not forget that for the last season ans half he has been frustrating and mostly ineffective. He is not a Brian or a Sid type of proper great player.
7 goals and 10 assists in 34 appearances isn't frustrating and mostly ineffective in my book.
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I think what we will miss more about young is his work rate. He never stopped running and showed alot of energy. We'll also miss the amount of free kicks he won for us in dangerous positions.
Just a shame he then despatched the vast majority of those free kicks high and wide into the North Stand or Holte in his last two seasons.
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I think what we will miss more about young is his work rate. He never stopped running and showed alot of energy. We'll also miss the amount of free kicks he won for us in dangerous positions.
Just a shame he then despatched the vast majority of those free kicks high and wide into the North Stand or Holte in his last two seasons.
Thats exactly why I didn't continue my comment about winning freekicks due to what you said above lol
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Come on fellow Villans, in a couple of weeks we'll be saying Ashley who?
Let's be honest, his last season and a half have hardly been awe inspiring. Yes, we've seen glimpses of the good (not great) player he can be. The trouble was inconsistency. One good game followed by three or four mediocre.
Constant whining at the referee game after game, which resulted in unnecessary yellow cards didn't help our cause when short in numbers. Also, the 'I'm bigger than Aston Villa' mentality was wearing a little thin near the end. Houllier gave him a free reign in letting him play wherever he wanted when he should have been out on the wing.
Sure, he's had a couple of decent games for his country, but is he really what Manure require? Is he better than Nani or Valencia? I wouldn't say so.
You can't blame him for wanting Champions League football, but I think he may find himself in the same position as Mr Milner given time. Good luck though Ashley, I think you'll need it.
The future's not bright, it's ginger and sweaty.
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Im pretty sure he wont be whinning to the ref for UTD. He could get away with it at Villa but with the likes of Fergie, Rio, Vidic and Giggs around, he will soon pipe down and get on with it.
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Im pretty sure he wont be whinning to the ref for UTD. He could get away with it at Villa but with the likes of Fergie, Rio, Vidic and Giggs around, he will soon pipe down and get on with it.
What! Man.U have been by far the worst for moaning/whinging to the refs (whiskey face included), so Ash will fit right in!
If anything our players should have been doing it more to apply more pressure to the refs/lino's to get decisions later in the game.
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I really don't understand why so many people on here are willing to have a pop at young. He was a fantastic player who was key in almost everything that's been good about the club since randy took over. He's gone to one of the biggest clubs in the world and will do a really job for them.
Last season he played very well for the most part but some people only wanted to see the stuff that went badly and ignored all the good he did for the team.
He will be very difficult to replace and him leaving will probably result in some big changes in the setup of the side.
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I really don't understand why so many people on here are willing to have a pop at young. He was a fantastic player who was key in almost everything that's been good about the club since randy took over. He's gone to one of the biggest clubs in the world and will do a really job for them.
Last season he played very well for the most part but some people only wanted to see the stuff that went badly and ignored all the good he did for the team.
He will be very difficult to replace and him leaving will probably result in some big changes in the setup of the side.
100% agree.
People say he moaned and whinged to the lino's/refs too much... so what! Its only what Gerrard / Terry / Rooney etc have been doing for years. Its systematically applying pressure to the officials so their sides are more likely to get the 'crucial' decisions their way later in the game. We should be doing it more!
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Come on fellow Villans, in a couple of weeks we'll be saying Ashley who?
Let's be honest, his last season and a half have hardly been awe inspiring. Yes, we've seen glimpses of the good (not great) player he can be. The trouble was inconsistency. One good game followed by three or four mediocre.
Constant whining at the referee game after game, which resulted in unnecessary yellow cards didn't help our cause when short in numbers. Also, the 'I'm bigger than Aston Villa' mentality was wearing a little thin near the end. Houllier gave him a free reign in letting him play wherever he wanted when he should have been out on the wing.
Sure, he's had a couple of decent games for his country, but is he really what Manure require? Is he better than Nani or Valencia? I wouldn't say so.
You can't blame him for wanting Champions League football, but I think he may find himself in the same position as Mr Milner given time. Good luck though Ashley, I think you'll need it.
The future's not bright, it's ginger and sweaty.
Agree with you completely Austin. I just don't know why ManUre want him when they already have two very similar players...can only assume they intend getting rid of Nani/Valencia over the next year or two to comply with new regs. (Or play a team composed completely of wingers!)
The lad wants to play at the very top while he can. Can't blame him for that - it's just a pity we haven't made the progress as a team/club for that to happen with us. I just hope we get someone in who can pose a similar threat but who can actually cross a ball into the danger zone that makes life difficult for our oppo defence, not to give the keeper catching practice!
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Im pretty sure he wont be whinning to the ref for UTD. He could get away with it at Villa but with the likes of Fergie, Rio, Vidic and Giggs around, he will soon pipe down and get on with it.
Rio is the worst!
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Young is a big loss but nowhere near as big a loss as Milner was- he was the engine and has never been replaced.
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Young is a big loss but nowhere near as big a loss as Milner was- he was the engine and has never been replaced.
nail on head
Marc can take over from Young
Milner has never been replaced (and is never likely to be)
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Milner will be replaced when another kid comes along either this season or next..don't you worry.
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Who's going to waste every free kick, corner, moan at refs and generally act like a loose cannon?
We'll miss the Ashley of 2008/09 but certainly not from last season.
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Ash will be replaced, I have no doubt about that. What we need is someone to replace Milner & play alongside Delph.
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Young leaving is not a wrench when Barry or Milner left for me. We have super Marc who can fill the gap and other midfielders who should come on this season - Delph for example.
Albrighton's got a long way to go before he can replace Young. And Delph is nothing like Young - a totally different player.
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Austin,good post, i agree with you
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We have to look around for young players with potential like AY . Maybe we should look at Oxlade-Chamberlain at Southampton .
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I've said to my ManUre supporting friends that AY would be the perfect signing for them since this rumour started...always moaning to the ref and diving at the slightest touches to win free kicks around the box.
He will do well for them and I think he'll be asked/forced to put in extra hours training every day to make sure his crossing and set pieces are up to standard on match days...the simplest of things that seem to be sadly missing in the training methods at VP. Pretty sure we'll see the same old AY but his delivery will be much improved and defenders will stand off more giving him more space simply because they will also be concentrating on the quality players alongside him.
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We have to look around for young players with potential like AY . Maybe we should look at Oxlade-Chamberlain at Southampton .
We should sign him just for the extra letter sales in the club shop.
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On away trips do players shack-up together ? Doubt it very much but Fabian sounds like Young7's room mate-
Provided Downing doesn't fly the nest and we could possibly sign Insomnia from Wigan I don't reckon we will
miss Ashley, it's time for Super Marc to step up to the plate -
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Oxlade Chamberlain looks great but I suspect may go to a top 4 club. Hopefully he would come to us as a place he will play more and develop properly but then you are back to the 'Stepping Stone' thing and the resentment this seems to generate.
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IMO we can put Downing back to Left and Give Albrighton more start up. I would love to see Bentley on our shirt and play right.
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Thanks for the memories Ashley, you will be missed. We can replace but it won't be the same, we may even find someone better, did anyone think he was going to turn out this good?
I'm glad he went to Man Utd tbh, he's gone to one of the best teams in the world and I can't blame him. Goodbye and good luck
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What does Delph know about it ? Hes not the manager is he ? Hes just a kid.
Concentrate on your playing son, leave the managing to the manager. (Said in a scottish accent)
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There's a rumour that season ticket sales for the Lower Holte have rocketed in the past 48 hours, as fans are not now so concerned about getting hit in the face by an Ashley Young free kick.
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i wonder now he has gone to manure, if he will get one of those crap nicknames like "AY7"?
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Young is a quality player and we won't be able to replace him directly. But with Marc taking his place, and one or two additions in midfield we can easily cover the job he did for us. We will probably play more directly and through the middle, although with Marc and Downing, if Stewart stays, we will have almost the same amount of crosses. Anyway Young could nold on the ball and his crosses were not so consistent as many think. He was less efficient than we think, because he offered a lot of excitement and highlghts.
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Young leaving is not a wrench when Barry or Milner left for me. We have super Marc who can fill the gap and other midfielders who should come on this season - Delph for example.
Albrighton shows promise but to call him super is over the top, he isn't as yet anywhere near the quality of AY.
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He wasn't a great player and we will replace him. Let's not forget that for the last season ans half he has been frustrating and mostly ineffective. He is not a Brian or a Sid type of proper great player.
Exactly
Good player yes but far too full of his own self importance
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The thing with Young is that he's a real final-phase player, the one you get the ball to at the end of a move to deliver the final ball or shot. He's bloody good at it, as well, but when he was in the free-role and was entrusted to dictate our play his lack of patience and forethought was exposed, usually as he'd go for the Hollywood ball to early and give it away, or go on an ill-advised dribble and end up down a blind alley, shoot early and miss or, off the ball, make a run beyond the forward far too early, leaving an unbridgeable gap between the forward players and the midfield. He's not irreplaceable because our play didn't depend on his brain but his feet - and we have other players with the feet to make a difference. It's the brains in midfield we lack, and have lacked for a very long time.
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I loved Ashley Young and thought he was ace, but I'll never understand why he needed to beat a player three times before putting a cross in.
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I say we should sign Junior Hoilett from Blackburn as replacement for Ash.
Oh and good luck to Ash, he never let us down and left the right way
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Scott Sinclair for me, if N'Zogbia is too rich for our blood.