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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Villafirst on May 20, 2011, 01:45:11 PM

Title: The No.9 shirt
Post by: Villafirst on May 20, 2011, 01:45:11 PM
It's about time it was given to a deserving player. To me it's still iconic and should be worn with pride by a 'proper' forward. Step forward Darren Bent - get rid of the '3' off your shirt! Do you realise the last two incumbents of the shirt have been......Marlon Harewood and Stephen Ireland!! I think it's actually vacant at present, although the little jerk is back from Newcastle. Benty will be a legend and should be remembered as a number 9 whilst at the club. After all, a certain Peter Withe did something special in 1982 as a number 9!! Do you agree?
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: Concrete John on May 20, 2011, 01:52:18 PM
Not sure what number Bent wore at Ipswich/Charlton/Spurs/Sunderland, but to my mind if he wants it then it's his.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: TaxDodger on May 20, 2011, 01:56:48 PM
Definitely should be Bent. Who was the last quality number 9 we had? Angel?
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: Rick_avfc on May 20, 2011, 02:18:15 PM
The legend that is Darren Bent should be wearing the number 9 shirt  ;D
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on May 20, 2011, 02:26:36 PM
and new striker can wear no 10:) Gerinvho (I think)
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: TheSandman on May 20, 2011, 02:28:06 PM
I don't think he's worn 9 before in his career.

Seem to remember him wearing 10 and 11 a lot.

That said he bloody well should get it.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: Damo70 on May 20, 2011, 02:38:03 PM
I was going through the Villa number nines since I've been following them. Gray, Withe, Thompson, McInally, Olney, Cascarino, Regis, Saunders, Savo, Dublin, Angel. I remember BFR making a big deal of the tradition of the Villa number nine shirt when he bought Deano. I think Bent has to be given it next season. Maybe Sid can fill him in on some of the history of it.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: Simon Jones on May 20, 2011, 02:59:45 PM
He said on his twitter in a reply to a tweet that he would like to be no. 9 next season
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: darren woolley on May 20, 2011, 03:06:42 PM
I would love it if Darren Bent got to wear the number 9 shirt he really should wear it he has done enough in his short time here  to wear it in my opinion and has I really like my star striker to wear the number 9 anyway call me old fashioned but I grew up with stories of the famous number nine shirt.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: TheTimVilla on May 20, 2011, 03:06:49 PM
What number does he wear for England? I think it's 9.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: asgpaul on May 20, 2011, 03:07:18 PM
Couldn't agree more, I'm very old school with regard to squad numbering etc., couldn't understand why Ireland (or any midfielder to that end) was handed the number 9 shirt in the first place.

Our number 9 is made for Darren Bent.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: Damo70 on May 20, 2011, 03:11:23 PM
Couldn't agree more, I'm very old school with regard to squad numbering etc., couldn't understand why Ireland (or any midfielder to that end) was handed the number 9 shirt in the first place.

Our number 9 is made for Darren Bent.

I think you will find that it's only the number 5 shirt that is specially made for one of our players.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: Villafirst on May 20, 2011, 05:11:14 PM
I could never quite understand why Marlon Harewood got the No. 9 shirt ahead of big John Carew, after all, he was signed before Harewood. I'm also old school when it comes to the No.9 shirt - it must have hero type status.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: TaxDodger on May 20, 2011, 05:19:37 PM
I could never quite understand why Marlon Harewood got the No. 9 shirt ahead of big John Carew, after all, he was signed before Harewood. I'm also old school when it comes to the No.9 shirt - it must have hero type status.

Because Angel was our number 9 when we signed Carew.. therefore Carew got 10.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: Villafirst on May 20, 2011, 05:26:15 PM
I stand corrected! Although I think Angel left before Harewood was signed? In which case big John should've have got the shirt then.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: The Left Side on May 20, 2011, 05:28:40 PM
Abso-bloody-lutely give him the #9 shirt and can we flog Ireland with it as it is taken off his back?
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: JJ-AV on May 20, 2011, 05:33:09 PM
Think he's already said that 'without being disrespectful to Stephen' he'd like the #9 next season.

He also said he was gonna take another number but Ged wanted him to have #39 as the 9 is a strikers number.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: The Situation on May 20, 2011, 05:41:23 PM
It's just a number lol... these days numbers don't really correlate with playing positions as they did 15-20+ years ago.

He looks good with 39 on his back, he's banged in the goals wearing that number... no reason to change!
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: Olneythelonely on May 20, 2011, 05:46:46 PM
It's just a number lol...

PMSL.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: The Situation on May 20, 2011, 05:55:50 PM
If anything Bent should have #6 on his shirt... same number as his favourite basketball player.

(http://answers.bettor.com/images/Articles/thumbs/extralarge/LeBron-James-and-the-Miami-Heat-overcome-the-Denver-Nuggets-103-98-59621.jpg)

Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: Damo70 on May 20, 2011, 06:06:35 PM
He's very polite saying "no disrepect to Stephen Ireland" before saying he wants the shirt. I haven't noticed anyone on here starting their message with "with no disrespect to Stephen Ireland"!
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: TaxDodger on May 20, 2011, 06:08:14 PM
He's very polite saying "no disrepect to Stephen Ireland" before saying he wants the shirt. I haven't noticed anyone on here starting their message with "with no disrespect to Stephen Ireland"!

Stephen Ireland can fuck off :)
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: the-farmer on May 20, 2011, 08:04:18 PM
I was going through the Villa number nines since I've been following them. Gray, Withe, Thompson, McInally, Olney, Cascarino, Regis, Saunders, Savo, Dublin, Angel. I remember BFR making a big deal of the tradition of the Villa number nine shirt when he bought Deano. I think Bent has to be given it next season. Maybe Sid can fill him in on some of the history of it.

couldn't agree more, the shirt is iconic  8)
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: TopDeck113 on May 20, 2011, 08:09:57 PM
Definitely should be Bent. Who was the last quality number 9 we had? Angel?

A good argument spoiled by a bad example.  JPA was a lot of things, but quality wasn't one of them.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: gervilla on May 20, 2011, 08:21:20 PM
Definitely should be Bent. Who was the last quality number 9 we had? Angel?

A good argument spoiled by a bad example.  JPA was a lot of things, but quality wasn't one of them.

To be fair for one season he looked quality. Frustrating at times for the rest.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: Fasth56 on May 20, 2011, 08:32:56 PM
Definitely should be Bent. Who was the last quality number 9 we had? Angel?

A good argument spoiled by a bad example.  JPA was a lot of things, but quality wasn't one of them.

To be fair that's bollox! Angel would have been a far different player if we had recruited a player with the ability to spot the runs he made before he eventually got it and to be flagged offside
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on May 20, 2011, 08:36:10 PM
The guy could prove to be as good as Gray and Withe, maybe even Lochhead!
Give him the Number 9 !
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: JJ-AV on May 20, 2011, 09:10:46 PM
Lets hope he bangs four against Liverpool and wins the Golden Boot.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: RodtheVillan on May 20, 2011, 11:08:49 PM
Bearing in mind I grew up idolising Andy Gray, it pains me to see the current holder of that same Villa No.9 shirt. Give it to Benty now ... please!
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: Villafirst on May 21, 2011, 10:11:21 AM
It's just a number lol... these days numbers don't really correlate with playing positions as they did 15-20+ years ago.

He looks good with 39 on his back, he's banged in the goals wearing that number... no reason to change!

Sorry, but have to disagree. Numbers 39, 45, 56 etc. don't mean a jot to me. The number 9 shirt is probably the most iconic of all. Give it to Darren now!

Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: Ad@m on May 21, 2011, 10:30:57 AM
The only reason he's got 39 is because he wanted 9 and 9 (Ireland), 19 (Petrov), and 29 (Collins) were already taken. 

Given he's our record signing and Ireland will hopefully be racking up a psychiatrist bill for some other club next season I don't think there's any question about him getting the No. 9 shirt.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: Ian. on May 21, 2011, 10:34:45 AM
Who gave Ireland the No 9 shirt in the first place? Very odd move?
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: Ad@m on May 21, 2011, 10:37:13 AM
Who gave Ireland the No 9 shirt in the first place? Very odd move?

It was probably one of the bargaining tools used when he was telling everyone involved how he really, really didn't want to move to the Villa.

I still can't believe what a monumental cock up that signing has turned out to be.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: Ian. on May 21, 2011, 10:40:07 AM
Even if he turned out to be a good signing (and I thought he would!)giving him the number 9 shirt was a very odd decision.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: willywombat on May 21, 2011, 10:50:20 AM
Yep, give it to Darren Bent - although to refer to a bloke who's been at the club for the gestation period of a gerbil as a 'Legend' is a bit over the top
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: TaxDodger on May 21, 2011, 12:12:17 PM
Even if he turned out to be a good signing (and I thought he would!)giving him the number 9 shirt was a very odd decision.

Especially as 8 was free at the time. Silly mad bald man.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: TimTheVillain on May 21, 2011, 12:23:53 PM
Give it Benty, then number 8 to Sturridge :)
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 21, 2011, 12:39:29 PM
Robert Pires will be our number 9 next season.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: timeoutbigbar on May 21, 2011, 12:49:02 PM
Give it to tumbling bear.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: JJ-AV on May 21, 2011, 01:47:14 PM
Give it Benty, then number 8 to Sturridge :)

7 - Albrighton
8 - Delph
9 - Bent
10 - Sturridge
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: Clampy on May 21, 2011, 01:51:31 PM
I'd leave him with the No39, it seems to suit him and it's worked out so far. The No9 shirt might put a bit of pressure on him pyschologically.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: Des Little on May 21, 2011, 02:22:56 PM
Bent's our main man and thereby he should be given the number 9 shirt. 
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: Villafirst on May 21, 2011, 03:28:13 PM
I'd leave him with the No39, it seems to suit him and it's worked out so far. The No9 shirt might put a bit of pressure on him pyschologically.

That's rubbish! I'm sure Darren Bent could handle wearing the number 9 shirt... in fact, it might inspire him even more knowing who's had the honour in the past to wear that shirt.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 21, 2011, 03:30:20 PM
I'd leave him with the No39, it seems to suit him and it's worked out so far. The No9 shirt might put a bit of pressure on him pyschologically.

That's rubbish! I'm sure Darren Bent could handle wearing the number 9 shirt... in fact, it might inspire him even more knowing who's had the honour in the past to wear that shirt.

Ormondroyd, Cascarino, Harewood, Ireland...
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: Percy McCarthy on May 21, 2011, 03:35:01 PM
Definitely should be Bent. Who was the last quality number 9 we had? Angel?

A good argument spoiled by a bad example.  JPA was a lot of things, but quality wasn't one of them.

He was quality for two seasons at least.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: Des Little on May 21, 2011, 03:58:31 PM
Ormondroyd wore number 11 from what I can recall
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 21, 2011, 04:39:39 PM
Ormondroyd wore number 11 from what I can recall

He wore both. I was being facetious anyway, I agree we should have Bendy Dazza wearing number 9.
Title: Re: The No.9 shirt
Post by: The Villan On The Wirral on May 22, 2011, 08:45:52 AM
Definitely should be Bent. Who was the last quality number 9 we had? Angel?

A good argument spoiled by a bad example.  JPA was a lot of things, but quality wasn't one of them.

To be fair that's bollox! Angel would have been a far different player if we had recruited a player with the ability to spot the runs he made before he eventually got it and to be flagged offside


spot on.he was too clever for his own good
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