Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on May 07, 2011, 08:01:00 PM
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What exactly happened? Am I correct in that he got a blow to the head then lost it with the referee and pushed him after play was waved on?
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Pretty much, but not before he fell to the ground and rolled around like he'd been shot! Only to get up when he realised play hadn't been stopped.
Not sure if he got an elbow to the head, will have to watch it again on MOTD, if I can bare to put myself through the pain again!
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Yes. Having not been able to go to the game, I watched online from about 20 mins in. Essentially for the second header in a row, the centre half came through Heskeys head to get the ball, Heskey went down and the ref did not blow for the free kick which should have come, waving play on with very little advantage. At which point Heskey (dead at the time) sprang up and basically bull charged the ref, giving him a little shove, before continuing the berating for a good 10 minutes to half time. GMac should have taken him off straight away the way he was kicking off. Lucky to stay on.
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Something clicked, and all the abuse from people telling him shit, finally sank into this brain and he realised it was true. Hence the hissy fit.
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A second yellow card appeared a certainty but the player remained on the pitch until half-time, when he then again angrily confronted Jones in the tunnel. Unable to calm Heskey, Gary McAllister, Villa's caretaker manager, decided to substitute the player during the interval
"If Emile did barge into the referee then he is lucky," McAllister said. "It's uncharacteristic of Emile; he was annoyed he didn't get protection from the referee, but it was an over-the-top reaction. He's someone I admire and that just isn't Emile. The decision to make the change at half-time was for the team, I needed to make sure we finished with 11 men."
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Something clicked, and all the abuse from people telling him shit, finally sank into this brain and he realised it was true. Hence the hissy fit.
Ha. Nice one. Hopefully he'll be off and he wont be missed.
He was makin a bit of a Dick of himself
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He might well be a nice man but as a footballer I hate him. He was funny when he played for other teams but he's just spectaculary crap now he plays for Villa.
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He kicked off in the tunnel apparently as well
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The incident looked like Heskey was being very petulant on MoTD and they did say he kicked off in the tunnel and that was why he was substituted.
It did look really silly, although he did appear to get a clout in the head, the way he dropped and then jumped up when he didn't get the free kick.
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if he had a problem with being hit in the head he should of ran up to Caldwell and gave ut the big 'un, not the little ref
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Is his contract up in the summer?
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No. :(
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ffs!
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Holds the ball up well though.
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A second yellow card appeared a certainty but the player remained on the pitch until half-time, when he then again angrily confronted Jones in the tunnel. Unable to calm Heskey, Gary McAllister, Villa's caretaker manager, decided to substitute the player during the interval
"If Emile did barge into the referee then he is lucky," McAllister said. "It's uncharacteristic of Emile; he was annoyed he didn't get protection from the referee, but it was an over-the-top reaction. He's someone I admire and that just isn't Emile. The decision to make the change at half-time was for the team, I needed to make sure we finished with 11 men."
Oh shit
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We're stuck with him, Petrov and Beye for another season unless we pay them off. They have no re-sale value and are on £150k a week each between them. Woeful decisions by MON and Randy, who ultimately signs the cheques.
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He was elbowed from behind on a few occasions, but as an experienced professorial his actions were unacceptable.
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lets hope its the last we see of him
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I,ll drink to that Stevenjos .
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It was most surprising and uncharacteristic of Heskey.
Considering how he has always maintained such professional dignity in the face of some of the crap he has had to put up with from some Villa fans over the last couple of years that he reacted to a couple of pokes in the back.
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There is more to this than what is being reported - all i can see is fair play to Brad Freidel an absolute gentleman and superb example of a professional
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I think he was stamped on whilst on the ground.
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There is more to this than what is being reported - all i can see is fair play to Brad Freidel an absolute gentleman and superb example of a professional
Can you elaborate?
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I'd hope there is, because the way he went from mortally wounded to chasing the ref like a crazed cheetah in two seconds was one of the most pathetic things I've seen from a Villa player.
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Watched the game on holiday in Cyprus and cringed with embarrassment at heskeys pathetic behaviour- what a way to behave and on his wages he should hold his head in shame- he lost it at home to Sunderland and cost us the game and he could and should have been sent off against Wigan- I really hope he is not wearing a villa shirt next season!
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Although not condoning his little push on the referee, for which he was lucky to stop on, I’d like to see a lot more aggression from Emile as he would take some stopping. It just needs to be applied correctly.
I can only think that something else must have gone on for him to react in the way that he did as a centre forward must surely be used to getting barged in the back and not getting every decision.
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if he had a problem with being hit in the head he should of ran up to Caldwell and gave ut the big 'un, not the little ref
he did.
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I was worried that he would have been sent off and us down to ten men good job Gary Mac hauled him off at half time for the teams sake.
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But the lack of intervention from the bench was worrying.
While Heskey was running around like a headless chicken no-one from the bench called him over to have a word, it was left to Friedel to sort it out. Crazy.
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Heskey's lack of professionalism is even worse - according to yesterday's Independent he left the stadium after being taken off at half time. Hopefully not to return.
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He was told to go home, I read. He didn't just walk out.
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Heskey is built like a brick shithouse but has to moan because he wasn't getting enough protection. What next? shoulder pads and a helmet?
Wanker
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He should have got the hook immediately
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He should have got the hook immediately
Yes he should. Could easily have contributed to a worse result like he did against Sunderland with his hissy fit then. He might be built like a brick shit house but plays and acts like a wet fart.
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There is more to this than what is being reported - all i can see is fair play to Brad Freidel an absolute gentleman and superb example of a professional
Can you elaborate?
Friedel ran quite a long way from his area to the scene of the incident to restrain Heskey.
But the lack of intervention from the bench was worrying.
In today's Times McAllister says that he "caught Emile's eye and got the assurance that he would get himself to half time". Strong, decisive leadership from the bench, then.
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He caught his eye?
What with a telescope?
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Mcallister should have hauled him off straight away but dithered as normal and a stronger ref would have sent him off- after the Sunderland fiasco you would think heskey would have learnt a lesson.
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Best thing we can do with him is follow the American's lead....shoot him and dump him in the sea! The shittest striker to play for 3 years at the Villa i have seen in 40 years!
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It was a foul but wasn't anything too bad, from what I could see.
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So, as well as throwing a tantrum on the pitch and then again at half time he still hadn't calmed down enough to support his team in the second half? Maybe we need a naughty step in the dressing room. If McAllister had gone to my infant school maybe he'd have thought of making him stand with his fingers on his lips or his hands on his head for five minutes.
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Unprofessional and I reckon something personal was said to him. Should have gone off and we were lucky.
Escape from Alcaraz.
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I always thought previous managers of Heskey (not just MON) used to hope he got wound up to make him play with a bit of aggression, Wigan did the job and then we take him off, and bring the unusually timid Albrighton on.
Another example of poor management for me not being able to get through to your players
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If I went to the bookies and asked for odds on a particular player to be sent off in the first half, what odds do you reckon I'd get?
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The fact he was allowed to leave at half time is a joke. Fucking big baby.
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He did get belted in the head, so im not surprised he reacted, shame it was at the ref. The same ref that had let that happen once and appear to miss a stonewall penalty. wtf was Mac doing though, not getting him off after that. Worst striker for 40 years? That is a laugh
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Moet, aye he was subject to a few clatterings and from where I sat it looked a penalty. But for a 30+ year old bloke he acted badly. It wasn't just the initial reaction, he ran about looking for a fight for about 10 mins afterwards and then had to be sent home at half time!?!? Sorry, that's unacceptable.
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It was toe curling to watch. Another clown who should leave this circus in the summer.
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To continue your analogy, a new ring master is required.
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Hissy fit embarrassing!! and then Ash having a go at Caldwell but the tunnel was equally toe curling
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Send him home for good to Leicester.
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There is more to this than what is being reported
I think so too. He would'nt have got as wound up as the did just because of a couple of elbows to the back of the head surely?
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To continue your analogy, a new ring master is required.
Stefan Postma?
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Hehehe. Nicely done.
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Heskey's lack of professionalism is even worse - according to yesterday's Independent he left the stadium after being taken off at half time. Hopefully not to return.
Does anybody think he may of been docked half a days salary for going home early?
Feckin useless lump of shit.
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Heskey's lack of professionalism is even worse - according to yesterday's Independent he left the stadium after being taken off at half time. Hopefully not to return.
Does anybody think he may of been docked half a days salary for going home early?
Feckin useless lump of shit.
he should be docked 3 years wages to be honest
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To continue your analogy, a new ring master is required.
Stefan Postma?
Very good, DC!
However, since in my understanding of the incident Mr Postma was on the receiving end, the designation of master may be stretching it a bit.
Or maybe a lot. Hurting him in the end.
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Is there anyone on here who actually wants him to still be in the squad next season?!
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Nope
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Bottom line is the ref got it wrong. If you get an elbow to the head its a serious foul and you stop play if only to to check the player. He may be generally useless as a player but i have a degree of sympathy towards him in this one
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He may be generally useless as a player but i have a degree of sympathy towards him in this one
A degree of sympathy for what? throwing a strop and then fucking off home at half time. There was nothing wrong with him as usual. Its the quickest I've seen him move this season when he charged towards the ref
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an elbow in the head a serious foul and it fucking hurts. yes, the red mist shouldn't have come down but you can at least understand it no?
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But did Caldwell hit his head and his reaction showed he really wasn't hurt in any way shape of form!
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So going apeshit at the ref was all a big put on?? I'm guessing it hurt like a bastard and the fact the ref did nowt caused him to loose his rag. For more classic examples of the pain + injustice = anger scenario, please see mid-70's american tv series The Incredible Hulk.
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He moved quicker than the hulk (for a change) and yes he might have thought the decision should have gone his way... but the reaction from being on the deck, playing dead, to chasing the ref 30 yards away was laughable and sad.
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mebbe, but this is Ivanhoe and its entirely out of character for him to loose it like that. I'm guessing one of the reasons he's didn't get an early bath is the ref probably realised he'd made a mistake and didn't want to compound it by sending him off.
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But did Caldwell hit his head and his reaction showed he really wasn't hurt in any way shape of form!
No, it didn't. Why should pain stop you reacting and wanting something done about it?
He took it too far and made a bit of a tit of himself but anyone who has ever been clobbered like that will know it bloody hurts.
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I'm no great fan of Heskey but I prefer to come down on his side in this one. We haven't seen a reaction like that from him in 15 years of professional football so my interpretation is that perhaps it wasn't just the one incident that got him steamed up.
He probably feels pretty foolish about it all now, mind.
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mebbe, but this is Ivanhoe and its entirely out of character for him to loose it like that. I'm guessing one of the reasons he's didn't get an early bath is the ref probably realised he'd made a mistake and didn't want to compound it by sending him off.
Not really, he got himself sent off in January for over-reacting, which lost us the game pretty much.
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I'm no great fan of Heskey but I prefer to come down on his side in this one. We haven't seen a reaction like that from him in 15 years of professional football so my interpretation is that perhaps it wasn't just the one incident that got him steamed up.
He probably feels pretty foolish about it all now, mind.
As had been pointed out Merv, he did the same thing earlier in the season, and on numerous occasions has stomped around like a baby after not getting decisions this season. It might be because i havent followed his career that closely, but I do think these occurences were less frequent in his earlier days. Maybe he is just starting to realise he is old and shit, and he doesnt like it? He cant do the things he used to?
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Maybe.
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mebbe, but this is Ivanhoe and its entirely out of character for him to loose it like that. I'm guessing one of the reasons he's didn't get an early bath is the ref probably realised he'd made a mistake and didn't want to compound it by sending him off.
Bizarrely, though, the ref gave the free kick to us after all the shenanigans had died down.
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To continue your analogy, a new ring master is required.
Stefan Postma?
;)
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I thought the incident was the only interesting point of the entire match Saturday. I went up for only the second time this year and I spent more time looking at my watch wishing for full time. The sad thing I thought it was football I fell out of love with......
It's the fact that we're so fucking awful and there is little chance of anything changing.