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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Bigmatt on April 24, 2011, 09:31:00 AM
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With some of the top 5-6 clubs being short of a natural finisher to turn them into serious challengers,anyone expecting a big money bid for bent in the summer? God i hope not.
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With some of the top 5-6 clubs being short of a natural finisher to turn them into serious challengers,anyone expecting a big money bid for bent in the summer? God i hope not.
Like who?
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No chance
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If we get about 5 times what we paid for him, maybe.
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Arsenal are a 20 goal a season player short of top i think. Its my first topic posted so dont laugh lol.
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I don't think for one second he is up for sale but I also don't know what we will do if we are offered a price somewhere between the £35m paid for Carroll and the £50m paid for Torres.
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Arsenal are a 20 goal a season player short of top i think. Its my first topic posted so dont laugh lol.
They are the 1 out of the six that maybe need someone like Bent, but i don't think he's a typical Wenger signing. They'll get someone from the continent cheaper. The others very definately don't need him, as good as he's proving to be.
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Players like Bent are priceless and I find it staggering that Sunderland sold him despite the big bid as they have to replace him. I would find it staggering if we sold him so soon as he signed a 5 year deal (I think) in January.
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Man Ci££y are the only ones who may come in with a crazy bid ie. +£50m, with Tevez rumoured to be off and Ballottelli will be gone they will need another striker to partner Djeko
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Man Ci££y are the only ones who may come in with a crazy bid ie. +£50m, with Tevez rumoured to be off and Ballottelli will be gone they will need another striker to partner Djeko
I think you're right, they're also the only club that could afford him too. When you look at Toress at £50m, Carroll at £35m. Bent would have to be reaching a fee between the two.
Luckily for us Bent obviously didn't seem trendy or Fantasy Football enough for Citeh in January and they went for Dzeko instead.
The over riding factor though, is I don't think Bent would want to leave us anytime soon. He seems very happy and he's now an England regular because he's playing for Fabio's favourite team. God forbid what happens to the poor lad when 'Appy Arry is given the job next year!!
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You scared the shit out of me for a split second and then I saw the question mark.
The answer is no. He is the best finisher in the country and we are very lucky to have a board that were prepared to shell out for him. He will bang in 25 goals plus next season for us and no amount of money would tempt Randy to sell. I'm sick and tired of the media unsettling our players with this sort of speculation and we don't need our own fans giving the likes of Liddle, Holte and Nursey ammunition. I don't mean to jump on you but the hacks love to make stories out of nothing and I could just imagine a story in the mirror on Monday entitled "Villa fans fear Bent exit". He is going nowhere.
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If Torres is worth £50 million, Bent's worth £100 million. Any less, and they can get lost (although I'd take £85 million plus Milner).
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If Torres is worth £50 million, Bent's worth £100 million. Any less, and they can get lost (although I'd take £85 million plus Milner).
And who would you buy to bang in the goals with Bent's ratio? Who could we realistically attract with his scoring record as a replacement? It's all good and well having 85 mil to spend but we have been crying out for a finisher for years and I don't think there's anyone better.
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He is not for sale, close the thread down
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No chance unless its £100m
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The title of this thread is a bit ridiculous and negative.
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Why exactly are we discussing this?? We've been through enough this season without imagining the worst!
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Delete all.
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£100 million plus Milner then I might consider it.
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Welcome Bigmatt. Nice to have you on the forum however try to be a little less depressing in the future topics!
As for Benty no f in way... he is ours and really who out of the 5/6 can come for him?
Not Manu, not Chelsea, not Spurs, not Liverpool, not Manshhitty they all have 2/3 or 4 strikers , maybe Arsenal but they will have to change their style of play entirely and they don't have £50M.
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Arsenal being in the market for some no frills English player that will complete the jigsaw is a hoary old football myth.
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I can honestly see this happening, especially from Man City and Arsenal, but we should be getting at least £35 Million for the lad.
In fairness...we could use that money to improve the squad in general, buying 2 full-backs, a centre-half, an engine in midfield, and a goalkeeper.
Oh, and a new manager.
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No.
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In fairness...we could use that money to improve the squad
Selling the player we've all been waiting for since God knows when is not going to improve the squad. I can't believe any Villa fan would even entertain the idea.
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Arsenal are the only team who would really need him - and I doubt they'll pay the £30-£40 million we would want for him.
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You scared the shit out of me for a split second and then I saw the question mark.
The answer is no. He is the best finisher in the country and we are very lucky to have a board that were prepared to shell out for him. He will bang in 25 goals plus next season for us and no amount of money would tempt Randy to sell. I'm sick and tired of the media unsettling our players with this sort of speculation and we don't need our own fans giving the likes of Liddle, Holte and Nursey ammunition. I don't mean to jump on you but the hacks love to make stories out of nothing and I could just imagine a story in the mirror on Monday entitled "Villa fans fear Bent exit". He is going nowhere.
Absolutely.
I can't understand such a defeatist attitude amongst our own fans. Arsenal want a twenty goal a season striker? So what. Aston Villa have been crying out for one for years, too. We have one and now we will build a team around him.
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In fairness...we could use that money to improve the squad
Selling the player we've all been waiting for since God knows when is not going to improve the squad. I can't believe any Villa fan would even entertain the idea.
I do agree with you, but I think you've got me wrong.
I'd be gutted if we sold bent, and it would be a travesty to football, but at least we could use that money to improve the long list of faults in the squad.
Just trying to put a positive spin on a negative idea.
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I can honestly see this happening, especially from Man City and Arsenal, but we should be getting at least £35 Million for the lad.
In fairness...we could use that money to improve the squad in general, buying 2 full-backs, a centre-half, an engine in midfield, and a goalkeeper.
Oh, and a new manager.
I can honestly see it not happening. What a load of shit-stirring nonsense.
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Not a hope, go F*ck yourself anyone. He is the man who will lead us to glory
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In fairness...we could use that money to improve the squad
Selling the player we've all been waiting for since God knows when is not going to improve the squad. I can't believe any Villa fan would even entertain the idea.
I do agree with you, but I think you've got me wrong.
I'd be gutted if we sold bent, and it would be a travesty to football, but at least we could use that money to improve the long list of faults in the squad.
Just trying to put a positive spin on a negative idea.
Fair enough, but I believe that had we have signed Bent 2 years ago we'd have qualified for the Champions League. Under MON we had, at times, all the components of a top 4 side and a top class finisher was the missing link. MON spent a lot of money on squad players (that he refused to play) and we didn't quite crack it, I'd rather have 1 Darren Bent than 4 Marlon Harewoods. Besides, who says we won't spend money strengthening the squad anyway? I don't believe Randy would have spent 18 million on Bent if he didn't intend to see the job through and the board are well aware that we need to strengthen the squad. In summary, we could get 40 mil for Bent and the best we could do with the money would be to by several average players as no big name player would come to us after selling our star man just after we've bought him. Quality over quantity.
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It won't happen. This summer at least.
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Some of our fans seem to have a masochistic tendency.
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One of the buys of the season for me few have been better. Unlike Carroll and Torres, he's done the job he was bought for and his goals have gained us enough points nearly and at 18 mill nearly a snip.
Few managers have bettered this, well done Houllier and especially Randy for the cash.
When you look at the likes of Carew, Harewood he's some purchase.
Sell him?
Be daft if we did
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It won't happen full stop.
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I don't know exactly which of the 'big boys' would be able to get him in.
United - Can't see them wanting to spend that sort of money on someone who probably won't start.
Chelsea - Torres, Drogba, Anelka and Sturridge to return. They tend to play one up front most of the time so he'd get less chance there.
Arsenal - Possibly some interest from the but I doubt they could afford him.
Man City - Usually sign our most important players and Tevez will surely be going in the summer but they're still laden with strikers. Plus the financial fair play rules will (hopefully) curb their spending soon.
Tottenham - Redknapp can dream on.
Liverpool - Will probably get Young in as their big signing this year and with all the money they threw around on strikers I assume they'll be happy with what they've got.
Bottom line, I'm guessing (and hoping!) that he'll be at the Villa for a few years yet.
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No negativity in my post,just curiosty and keen to hear other peoples opinions :-X
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Is there a Bent song yet?
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Not a prayer. Can see where you are coming from but no chance. For some reason the big 4 don't seem to rate him, otherwise they would have taken him on by now surely.
Liverpool have Carroll & Suarez, Man Utd and Chelsea are well stocked, No chance he would go back to Spudz after his relationship with Redknapp (and would Redknapp climb down?).
Man City maybe, but then again they can have their pick of most players in the league.
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Is there a Bent song yet?
Na na na na na na na na na na Darren Darren Bent Darren Bent Darren Darren Bent
to the tune of "Baby Give It Up".
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i don't get why some dickheads even start threads like this! do you enjoy bringing constant negativity amongst villa fans and fuel the already flaming fire of reporters that don't like us!!??
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i don't get why some dickheads even start threads like this! do you enjoy bringing constant negativity amongst villa fans and fuel the already flaming fire of reporters that don't like us!!??
I don't think he was necessarily being negative, Mate. Possibly just hoping to get some reassurance from others that think Bent will be with us for a while yet. ;)
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Benty contributes precious little outside the box and so is simply never going to be an Arsenal signing. They tried a similar thing with Jeffers and since then have abandoned the idea of buying strikers who can't also fit into their passing game. Chelsea won't be interested either, they have to hope Torres will come good after a decent pre-season. Citeh will want a bigger name if they are going to replace Tevez. United might bid, but I really don't think Fergie would fancy him.
Spurs are more likely to sign Sandra Redknapp and Liverpool have spunked the Torres cash. Bent will give us at least another season anyway. He seems to be enjoying his football.
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I don't think for one second he is up for sale but I also don't know what we will do if we are offered a price somewhere between the £35m paid for Carroll and the £50m paid for Torres.
Yes you do..
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villa is ideal for him. can't see a man u, city, chelski, arsenal or liverpool coming in for him so where is gonna be better than here?????
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Nice to know new posters are welcomed by some :-X
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i don't get why some dickheads even start threads like this! do you enjoy bringing constant negativity amongst villa fans and fuel the already flaming fire of reporters that don't like us!!??
And I don't get why some people post such dickheadish nonsense instead of actually reading or responding to the initial post. In terms of constant negativity, I've seen much worse on here. In terms of dickheadishness, well there's a reason why I barely frequent the site any more.
What I saw from Bigmatt was a concern that Bent's stock has risen considerably since joining us and that at the moment, there are clubs bigger than us to whom he might seem an attractive purchase.
He asked the question whether anyone was expecting "a big money bid [...] in the summer" and made it quite clear that he hoped this wouldn't be the case.
There's always the chance a bid could come in. I think he would fit into Arsenal's line-up, maybe even a Rooney-less United. However, I don't think it will happen and share Bigmatt's "God, I hope not" sentiment.
Sorry you appear to have been lined up as the new H&V Public Enemy Number 1, Bigmatt. I guess once Houllier won a couple of games and then went and got ill, certain people had to find someone to pick on.
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Strange title.
Had it been along the lines of How Much is Bent Worth Now? It probably wouldn't raise the hackles so much.
As it is, it's not a leap of faith to deduce that 'Bent For Sale?' by a new poster might, just might be a wind up.
Of course, not being a cynical sort of chap I'm sure that wasn't the intention at all.
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The title of the thread should surely read "Bent not for sale"
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Nice to know new posters are welcomed by some :-X
I think if you tweaked the title of the thread it might not have gone down so badly. Something like "How Much Would Bent be Worth Now"?
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dont know what people get worked up for,
if a top 4 club came in for Bent and offered good money for him and Bent the chance to earn more,
he'd be of, and thats it, its just a fact of life
thats what players do,
thats what happens when we approach another club for a player, pay him more money and if we are regarded in the players eyes as a bigger club with better prospects then he will come.
the good news is that i dont think anyone playing in champs league will come in so we will be OK.
dont think theres anything wrong with the thread title, making it a bit contrversial always gurantees a few more posts
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Is it too late to change the topic title? lol :-[
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I'd say the only club near the top that need a good striker is Spurs. Arsenal have RVP, who is very good if they can get more than 25 games out of him a season.
United have Rooney & Hernandez. Berbatov & Owen will probably be sold this summer.
Liverpool have Carroll, Suarez & Kuyt.
City have Balotelli, Dzeko, Tevez. Tevez & Balotelli could both go to Inter/AC Milan this summer. They also have Jo, Santa Cruz & Adebayor don't forget.
Chelsea will re-build their team around Torres & Sturridge next season.
I really don't think we've got anything to worry about.
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United have Rooney & Hernandez. Berbatov & Owen will probably be sold this summer.
You reckon? But hasn't Berbatov had a storming season for them?
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Why are we supposing that only the whorefour would be interested in signing the premier leagues third most prolific marksman? Why wouldn't he be of interest to the italians or the spaniards?
'Just wonderin loike' as Barry the radish would say.
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Careful Eddie,your sounding very negative :)
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I think from an objective perspective he must be disappointed with the move. If it had not happened so quickly he could surely have been a Liverpool target.
Arguably, given his form since the January window, he is a top class striker who should be playing for one of the top four. I think eventually it's a given that he'll make the step up - probably after he gets a good international tournament under his belt.
At the moment, though, I think we're safe. He won't want to move again so quickly, is undoubtedly one of our top earners, and the only club desperate enough - Arsenal - wouldn't pay hypothetical the asking price.
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If our own fans think so little of our club then what hope have we got? I wonder if there are any threads on Liverpool forums showing dread at Suarez being sold after he has played barely half a season for his new club? Maybe Real Madrid fancy adding him to their attack? There's such a despairing, small-time, defeatist outlook amongst some of us that I find incredibly frustrating.
We've just shelled out more money on a player than Spurs or Arsenal ever have (I'm talking about the whole £24 million figure here). I've never known either Spurs or Arsenal ever tempt one of our players to their respective clubs over the past twenty years yet you'd think, reading here, that they are some kind of super club that no player on earth could resist. As for Liverpool, they are currently the sixth best side in England - similar to us the previous three years. Did any of us think of our club so highly when we were in that position?
The worry is that if some of our fans have no belief in our club and its ability to compete then what hope have we got? It is a form of negativity in my view, that simply transmits itself to players and media alike. It plays a part, in my view, in holding us back. It's all such a small-time, defeatist discussion. We've signed a great goalscorer - let's enjoy it. Let's dream of how we will develop a team with him being an integral part.
Maybe, just maybe, Bent can play for a top four club and win trophies at Villa Park wearing a claret and blue shirt for a club called Aston Villa?
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Hard to disagree with most of that BW.