Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Hillbilly on April 15, 2011, 01:41:34 AM
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The Grauniad is reporting that Blues might not be granted a licence to play in the Euro Vase next season. The reason is their dodgy financials.
I'm a bit torn on this. While it's always heartening to see bad stuff happen to them, it seems unfair to deny the players and fans because of the dodgy owners. The fans are first and far away the custodians of the club. The players who put in the effort a distant second and the owners an unfortunate fact of life like herpes or George Osbourne.
Any thoughts?
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europe is a better place without Small Heath
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While it would be quite amusing, are their finances really much dodgier than most of the qualifiers from Eastern Europe/Italy etc?
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Meh, it'd be funny, but Europe will have a detrimental affect on their season.
TBH I'm not particularly bothered either way, we'll finish above 'em this season and we'll do the same again next season. They aren't a worry of mine unless we're playing them.
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I would love it if they weren't allowed in Europe.
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The gift that keeps on giving?
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They should do it otherwise their fans will wreck the host city.
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The fans are first and far away the custodians of the club.
That's precisely why it would be so enjoyable
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They have to be allowed otherwise they may protest again and all twelve of them could end up getting lost again which altough funny is a bit embarrassing.
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Put yourself in the position of the travelling supporters from the other European teams faced with the prospect of having to visit St Andrews.
A freezing cold Thursday night in December thousands of miles away against Lokomotive Backendofnowhere or Small Heath ?
Penned in a corner of the ground surrounded by 60,000 fanatical flare throwing kebab wielding Turks who are just getting restless as they have all been in the ground for 18 hours waiting for kick off or Small Heath ?
A trip to an Iceleandic village team where on the day of the game you cant even go to the cashpoint anymore when you want a pint of lager because all the banks have been closed down or Small Heath ?
Yes, if I was them I would rather be beaten up by Russian gangsters/Istanbul prison guards/angry cod fishermen than accept the hand of international friendship from a bunch of knuckle draggers who probably still think its called the Inter Cities Fairs Cup.
On the positive side if they stay in, we will shift a few extra items at the souvenir shop. Any fans from visiting European teams are sure to pay a visit to B6 during their daytime itinery before going there for the game in the evening.
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europe is a better place without Small Heath
And so is Birmingham
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europe is a better place without Small Heath
And so is Birmingham
I think they should bulldozer all of Small Heath to make way for the HIgh Speed Trains
Can't agree with Iceland comment above - it was a very pleasant trip a couple of years ago. The locals were very friendly - especially as they were spending our money from their failed banks!
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I don't want them to get the revenue from it, i don't want them in there enjoying it and would love to see them all gutted that they got there hopes up. Although it would be funny if they lost alot of players left to make some money back and got embaressed by the likes of TNS
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They will be thrown out of Europe after their first away game anyway due to crowd trouble
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I bet the bindippers are going to get involved as they might see it as a way to get a European place. It looks like only 5th place will get a Europa spot.
When they get out of bed (about lunchtime) and see this they will start bleating about how they have some right to European football as they invented it etc.
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I bet the bindippers are going to get involved as they might see it as a way to get a European place. It looks like only 5th place will get a Europa spot.
When they get out of bed (about lunchtime) and see this they will start bleating about how they have some right to European football as they invented it etc.
do not even joke about it SashasGrandad........
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If Stoke or Bolton win FA Cup 5th won't even get it will they ?
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If Stoke or Bolton win FA Cup 5th won't even get it will they ?
Yes.
If Man Utd win the FA cup, then 6th will get a spot as well (ditto if Man City win the cup and finish in the top 4)
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I'm confused by the use of the plural word 'trips' in the thread title?
Surely it'll be a singular trip as they get knocked out in the first qualifying round??
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If Stoke or Bolton win FA Cup 5th won't even get it will they ?
Yes.
If Man Utd win the FA cup, then 6th will get a spot as well (ditto if Man City win the cup and finish in the top 4)
does not the losing finalist get it (either Bolton/Stoke) ??
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They'll get in, unfortunately.
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If Stoke or Bolton win FA Cup 5th won't even get it will they ?
Yes.
If Man Utd win the FA cup, then 6th will get a spot as well (ditto if Man City win the cup and finish in the top 4)
does not the losing finalist get it (either Bolton/Stoke) ??
I thought losing finalists got it too, maybe rules have changed?
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Losing finalists in the FA cup do get into Europe if the winners have already qualified. The confusion comes from the point that the League Cup runners up do not get the same thing.
So Bolton or Stoke are pretty much in, along with the twelve toed ones. leaving only 1 place for the league, which goes to the 5th placed team.
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I hope they draw Rapid and get Knocked Out in the play off.
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God no. Imagine if they beat them. Actually, they'll have no fecking chance.
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It will be a glorious campaign, of this I am sure.
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The cup is a joke anyway, As much as I hate them they'd be better off without it, You don't make any money and I can see them now on CH5 with about 50 ppl in the ground.(much like any other match day I guess)
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I hope they're allowed in. With a bit of luck they'll get some obscure team in eastern europe that takes about 5 days to get there and back from and we can try moving Birmingham somewhere else while they're away or at least change all the roadsigns so they can't find their way back. It do-able i reckon, given a decent timescale
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If they get some obscure team full of interbred fans , out in the moutains of russia somewhere , they will all probably move there as they will feel at home.
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The reports says:
"Uefa delegates its licensing scheme to national associations, meaning that Birmingham will need to satisfy the FA and the Premier League that they can meet their financial liabilities for the year ahead."
They will be in. FA toothless, PL clueless.
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We all know that they'd get Rapid Vienna and hammer them over 2 legs.
Goddamn Noses.
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They should do it otherwise their fans will wreck the host city.
As a club who suffered the ignominy of playing a European cup tie behind closed doors because of our own scum perhaps we should be a bit less quick to pass judgement.
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I hope they're allowed in. With a bit of luck they'll get some obscure team in eastern europe that takes about 5 days to get there and back from and we can try moving Birmingham somewhere else while they're away or at least change all the roadsigns so they can't find their way back. It do-able i reckon, given a decent timescale
That's a quality idea. Count me in.
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I'm sure its been discussed elsewhere but what happens if they get relegated? Can a Championship team play in Europe?
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I'm sure its been discussed elsewhere but what happens if they get relegated? Can a Championship team play in Europe?
Yes, Millwall did it 5 or so years ago when United beat them in the Cup final.
I think Ipswich Town may have done so to
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Middlesborough aswell I think. They were in the FA Cup final in the late 90s the season they got relegated.
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I hope they're let in, they earned it fair and square, plus it really is an awful competition up until the knock out stages (which they won't get to)
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All rivalry aside, it would be an absolute disgrace if they aren't allowed in on a technicality while, say, Manchester City are.
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If Stoke or Bolton win FA Cup 5th won't even get it will they ?
Yes.
If Man Utd win the FA cup, then 6th will get a spot as well (ditto if Man City win the cup and finish in the top 4)
does not the losing finalist get it (either Bolton/Stoke) ??
Yes you're right.
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If Stoke or Bolton win FA Cup 5th won't even get it will they ?
Yes.
If Man Utd win the FA cup, then 6th will get a spot as well (ditto if Man City win the cup and finish in the top 4)
Nah, that's the Carling Cup mate.
Whoever wins the FA Cup semi-final between Stoke and Bolton qualifies for next year's Europa League.