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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: eastie on March 21, 2011, 10:35:53 PM
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He hasn't even played yet and he's broken a curfew with Leon best and been hauled before pardew- what a prick!
Full story on mirror website if someone can paste it as I'm on iPod.
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Here it is: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Newcastle-Leon-Best-and-Stephen-Ireland-have-apologised-after-it-emerged-they-broke-a-club-curfew-the-night-before-4-0-hammering-at-Stoke-article716221.html
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To think we lost Milner and this guy was part of package to replace him.....bloody hell we should have realised back then our season was doomed.
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Before we signed I called him a border line mentalist. I was wrong, he's a full blown fruit cake. Another fresh start and he's in bother before he has even kicked a ball.
My worry is that we end up stuck with the pillock as no other mugs will want him.
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Marvellous. Stephen Ireland coming back. As if things couldn't be much worse.
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Ireland is the the type of footballer that is making me lose interest in the game. A talented footballer who has turned into a lying, stupid waste of space. What some of us would have given to have even one opportunity like this dickhead has had.
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It makes me more convinced than ever that before any player is signed he should have to undergo as serious and thorough a psychiatric examination as the physical evaluations they have to have.
A dodgy ligament here or a tweaked tendon there are minor fixables compared with mental meltdown so many players are prone to as a result of excessive money and coccooned lifestyles.
If any player has previous form for erratic behaviour, especially one with a multi million pound price tag, he should be avoided like the plague.
Man City got from us a genuine, straight, committed professional football player. In return we got a disruptive, whingeing head case.
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Stephen Ireland has caused upsets and had fall outs at Manchester City, Aston Villa, Newcastle United, and the Republic of Ireland. I can find no evidence of upsets at Cobh Ramblers where he started, so perhaps he should just go back there.
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If he's fined 2 weeks wages.....I want us to get it
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Before we signed I called him a border line mentalist. I was wrong, he's a full blown fruit cake. Another fresh start and he's in bother before he has even kicked a ball.
My worry is that we end up stuck with the pillock as no other mugs will want him.
One thing you can be sure of in football Chris is there is always someone stupid enough to want a player like Ireland....
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The man is just a waste of space.
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He went topless?
He's just trying to be like their fans.
(http://tattootrend.genia.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/stephen-ireland-tattoo-design1.jpeg)(http://leaderswedeserve.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/shirtless-newcastle-fan.jpg)
Two toon topless twits take tyneside tattoos too far. ( Now say it again, faster)
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I ,maybe the only one , was quite happy with the signing . I thought there was a very good player there and would make a difference in our team. What a waste . Hindsight, we should have just taken the money for Milner . Lke I say , a waste of a player and a waste of Villa money. C**s like this , ruin the game for me and there are plenty of them.
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He's mad. He's madder than Mad Jack McMad, the winner of last year's Mr Madman competition.
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He's mad. He's madder than Mad Jack McMad, the winner of last year's Mr Madman competition.
I actually think he's not mad at all, just a ****** who doesn't give a flying fuck as long as some club or other is throwing another multi million pound contract at him.
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I wonder who he will blame this time, pillock.
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I ,maybe the only one , was quite happy with the signing . I thought there was a very good player there and would make a difference in our team. What a waste . Hindsight, we should have just taken the money for Milner . Lke I say , a waste of a player and a waste of Villa money. C**s like this , ruin the game for me and there are plenty of them.
You're not the only one, I was chuffed when he finally agreed to come.
As it is in my nature to look for the good in people, may I just say I think it was admirable that as an 18/19 year-old, he fought for and won custody of his children, so he's not all bad.
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as an 18/19 year-old, he fought for and won custody of his children, so he's not all bad.
within a week of arriving at his place they were refusing to get out of bed and go to school, and their their agent had issued a `come and get me' plea to other parents
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I ,maybe the only one , was quite happy with the signing . I thought there was a very good player there and would make a difference in our team. What a waste . Hindsight, we should have just taken the money for Milner . Lke I say , a waste of a player and a waste of Villa money. C**s like this , ruin the game for me and there are plenty of them.
I was gutted when Milner left, I liked him the first time he was here and I loved it when he re-signed.
I did think Ireland was going to be a good addition to our squad, probably better than anyone here in the role he could play so yes I was excited in a way to see what he could do. How wrong can you get.
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I ,maybe the only one , was quite happy with the signing . I thought there was a very good player there and would make a difference in our team. What a waste . Hindsight, we should have just taken the money for Milner . Lke I say , a waste of a player and a waste of Villa money. C**s like this , ruin the game for me and there are plenty of them.
You're not the only one, I was chuffed when he finally agreed to come.
As it is in my nature to look for the good in people, may I just say I think it was admirable that as an 18/19 year-old, he fought for and won custody of his children, so he's not all bad.
Christ, the mother must have been a right fucking head case if the judge thought he was the best bet for them.
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Not trying to defend Ireland one little bit...I despise him more than most on here I would imagine.
But, do you think if it wasn't Stephen Ireland or Newcastle, that this story would have seen the light of day?
The 2 of them were invited to a nightclub, went along, didnt drink (allegedly) and agreed to a stupid picture.
I think in this situation the story says more about the calibre of people employed by and buying newspapers today than it does about Stephen Ireland.
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What a class guy he is, I hope he doesn't darken our doorstep again.
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No-one's going to buy him from us.
How long is this prick's contract? If you were to subtract his salary over that time from the fee we got for Milner, how much would be left with?
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It makes me more convinced than ever that before any player is signed he should have to undergo as serious and thorough a psychiatric examination as the physical evaluations they have to have.
A dodgy ligament here or a tweaked tendon there are minor fixables compared with mental meltdown so many players are prone to as a result of excessive money and coccooned lifestyles.
If any player has previous form for erratic behaviour, especially one with a multi million pound price tag, he should be avoided like the plague.
Man City got from us a genuine, straight, committed professional football player. In return we got a disruptive, whingeing head case.
It makes me more convinced than ever that before any player is signed he should have to undergo as serious and thorough a psychiatric examination as the physical evaluations they have to have.
A dodgy ligament here or a tweaked tendon there are minor fixables compared with mental meltdown so many players are prone to as a result of excessive money and coccooned lifestyles.
If any player has previous form for erratic behaviour, especially one with a multi million pound price tag, he should be avoided like the plague.
You'd probably then would miss out on the likes of Maradonna, Best, Cantona, Gascoinge, to name a few.
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Will the insurance payout on him if he is just declared insane and we have to cancel his contract ?
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Newcastle must think they've been sold a pup as much as us.
Even if they're only stumping up half his wages with him being injured that two month's money gone on him already with nowt to show for it.
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I ,maybe the only one , was quite happy with the signing .
If you went back to around the time he signed you'd find plenty of positive comments, including some from me. I sure feel like a mug now, mind.
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I ,maybe the only one , was quite happy with the signing .
If you went back to around the time he signed you'd find plenty of positive comments, including some from me. I sure feel like a mug now, mind.
There is a good player in there somewhere. What a waist of talent.
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If Stephen Ireland doesn't end up in prison at some point in his life, I'll be stunned.
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If Stephen Ireland doesn't end up in prison at some point in his life, I'll be stunned.
Prison? He's too fucking lazy to commit a crime. Christ I am on one tonight! Best lay off the Artois.
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He won't end up in prison, but may decide to invade Russia
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With proper psychiatric evaluation of potential player signings you might well steer clear of Gascoigne, Best, Maradonna and Cantona but of those four only Cantona might be considered to have solved more problems (ie made a net positive contribution to the game of football) than they have created for themselves, their employers and the game.
If you were to say to me but Georgie Best was a sublime talent who gave pleasure to a lot of people I would reply that he finished up a broken, bankrupt wreck of a man who wasted his life and went to an early grave. Proper psychiatric help at the right time not "what you having George?" would have given him a chance. His talent merited that chance.
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With proper psychiatric evaluation of potential player signings you might well steer clear of Gascoigne, Best, Maradonna and Cantona
Who would want to steer clear of any of those four players ?
Imagine all of them together in your team, with Mcgrath at the back (another one that any 'proper' psychiatric evaluation would have advised Graham Taylor to steer clear of).
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With proper psychiatric evaluation of potential player signings you might well steer clear of Gascoigne, Best, Maradonna and Cantona
Does the Disability Discrimination Act apply to employing footballers? Just a thought.
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Would be nice if M.City came out and said that they knew he was a loon-bag and that's why they wanted him out - Villa could then claim they were sold defective merchandise and get a refund.
Or something.
I was excited to see what happened to the team when he arrived but I never expected it all to turn out into such a farce. Could have been good, but I underestimated how much of a tool he is.
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As someone posted on another thread - Ireland is the ideal player (attribute wise) to be playing in that "hole" behind Bent. When he is on his game he is fantastic at timing his runs so that he is in the box at the right time.
Just a shame he is a fucking nutter though.
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As someone posted on another thread - Ireland is the ideal player (attribute wise) to be playing in that "hole" behind Bent. When he is on his game he is fantastic at timing his runs so that he is in the box at the right time.
Just a shame he is a fucking nutter though.
that is a case for mark hughes as manager as he would get the best from ireland , warnock and dunne as he did when managing them all before, not that hughes would be my choice .
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They should have a footballers version of Big Brother for all the fruitloops who have found their way into the game.
I'd propose Stephen Ireland, Sasa Curcic, Gennaro Gattuso, El Hadji Diouf, René Higuita, and David Icke.
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Sasa Curcic actually won his country's version of Celebrity Big Brother.
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More good news on Ireland.
He's injured again and out for the rest of the season, so will be back here soon-ish.
Rejoice!
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More good news on Ireland.
He's injured again and out for the rest of the season, so will be back here soon-ish.
Rejoice!
He really is doing his best to win the 2011 Sasa Curcic Completely Wasteful Wanker Award. Previous winners include the Moore brothers and Stan Collymore
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With proper psychiatric evaluation of potential player signings you might well steer clear of Gascoigne, Best, Maradonna and Cantona but of those four only Cantona might be considered to have solved more problems (ie made a net positive contribution to the game of football) than they have created for themselves, their employers and the game.
So Argentina would have been advised to steer clear of picking Maradonna in 1986 and he made no significant contribution to that tournament?
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More good news on Ireland.
He's injured again and out for the rest of the season, so will be back here soon-ish.
Rejoice!
He really is doing his best to win the 2011 Sasa Curcic Completely Wasteful Wanker Award. Previous winners include the Moore brothers and Stan Collymore
He's a lot worse than any of them.
It should be named the Stephen Ireland award.
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More good news on Ireland.
He's injured again and out for the rest of the season, so will be back here soon-ish.
Rejoice!
He really is doing his best to win the 2011 Sasa Curcic Completely Wasteful Wanker Award. Previous winners include the Moore brothers and Stan Collymore
He's a lot worse than any of them.
It should be named the Stephen Ireland award.
He's certainly running old Sasa close that's for sure.
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So Bodymoor Heath will now have to put up with his mentalist, moaning ways for a bit longer.
He should be made to dress up as Napoleon.
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He will never match the elusive ivo stas, but maybe has overtaken bosco balaban in the waste of money stakes.
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So Bodymoor Heath will now have to put up with his mentalist, moaning ways for a bit longer.
He should be made to dress up as Napoleon.
He probably thinks he is Napoleon.
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Sad case.
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I think he'll be somewhere like QPR next season.... At least, I friggin hope so!!!
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Interesting. Only last week he was extolling the virtues of Newcastle 'looking after' him while he was injured. What will poor Stephen say now?
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Mark Hughes will be his saviour but it would be on the cheap and at a huge financial loss to us- you win some, you lose some.
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Hughes was apparently going to come in for him in January. What happened there?
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Definitely Sasa rather than Ivo or Bosco.
Re Brian's point about psychiatric screening, I'd certainly recommend psychometric assessment; certainly works for recruiting in the business world.
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Hughes was apparently going to come in for him in January. What happened there?
He took Sidwell instead.
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Ireland can sling it and the sooner the better. Chav cock.
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Hughes was apparently going to come in for him in January. What happened there?
He took Sidwell instead.
And then gave him a new contract.
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His girlfriend/partner/wife whatever - not sure of her exact status - has recently been badly injured in a car crash. Whether this has any relevance regarding his general fuckwittery is debatable.
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I still wouldn't be totally against giving him another chance if he comes back with the right attitude this summer. A new manager may help in that regard but ultimately the onus will be on him, whether he wants to turn things around here or merely put himself in the shop window.
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If Ireland ends up back at Villa Park Lerner should insist that he gets mental health counselling.
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If Ireland ends up back at Villa Park Lerner should insist that he gets mental health counselling.
A contract termination would be more preferable.
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Oh gawd help us if he is coming back
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Theres no one to blame here but the club, it's not as if the signs weren't there.
To paraphrase a former manager, they got us into this mess, they can f***in' well get us out of it.
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I still wouldn't be totally against giving him another chance if he comes back with the right attitude this summer. A new manager may help in that regard but ultimately the onus will be on him, whether he wants to turn things around here or merely put himself in the shop window.
Kevin, well said.
There's latent talent there, maybe Hughes will end up Managing him ?
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I dont suppose theres any chance somebody took out mentalist insurance on baldilocks is there?
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That'd be Faulkner's responsibility so...no.
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If Ireland ends up back at Villa Park Lerner should insist that he gets mental health counselling.
Who - Randy or Napoleon?
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I dont suppose theres any chance somebody took out mentalist insurance on baldilocks is there?
It would be a lovely thought, although I suspect the insurance company would only pay out at the point when Kojak starts flinging his own poo around; something I hope he has already done in the vicinity of Joey Barton.
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Oh gawd help us if he is coming back
Well, at least we will have a pre-season to work on him and maybe if there is a new manager in place he might be a bit more receptive to his way, not that there has been anything wrong with the way GH and Co have been dealing with him mind.
Ireland is now drinking in the last chance saloon, if he wants to maintain his high level chav style existence then he needs to get his act together sharpish.
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I admire your optimism, Bren, but it's a long shot.
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The bloke is a wanker
he didn't want to come to us in the first place and then made it blatently clear he didn't want to be arsed - case in point crying off the man ure game only to go out on the piss.
Give him another chance or a pre season FFS are some people mad???
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So what's the alternative....just let him drift out of the club for nothing?
If you bought a Ferrari from a car auction and got home to find out that it needed a lot of work doing to it would you just leave it in the back yard to rust while you paid off the bank loan each month for the next 3 or 4 years?
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So by that rationale a player can do as he wants and because we have spent money on him we just put up with the shit? The fault lies with whover sanctioned the deal knowing that ireland is mentally deficient
The same goes for Dunne and Collins they have both taken the piss so bugger them off
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We'll have to embrace him back at the club if only to try and get his value up.
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So what's the alternative....just let him drift out of the club for nothing?
Sell him.
Someone will be daft enough to take a punt. Bolton. Wigan. Stoke. That kind of level.
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The same goes for Dunne and Collins they have both taken the piss so bugger them off
That would be the same Collins who possibly scored the most important goal of the season and played out of his skin agianst Newcastle? The same one who's been our best defender for the last few weeks? I think you need to see the same councellor as Ireland!
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The same goes for Dunne and Collins they have both taken the piss so bugger them off
That would be the same Collins who possibly scored the most important goal of the season and played out of his skin agianst Newcastle? The same one who's been our best defender for the last few weeks? I think you need to see the same councellor as Ireland!
And the same one who has looked like he's on drugs for almost the entirety of the rest of the season.
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The same goes for Dunne and Collins they have both taken the piss so bugger them off
That would be the same Collins who possibly scored the most important goal of the season and played out of his skin agianst Newcastle? The same one who's been our best defender for the last few weeks? I think you need to see the same councellor as Ireland!
And the same one who has looked like he's on drugs for almost the entirety of the rest of the season.
So he looks like this incident taught him which side his bread was buttered on doesn't it? But this isn't a debate on Collins so I'll leave it there.
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He's out for the rest of the season apparently. Can't imagine many Geordies are upset.
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does that mean he's back at Bodymoor and off their wage bill ? How does it work when a player is out long term ?
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Mybe he was really driving that car and not his wife/GF ..
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sportinglife.com
McAllister wants fully fit Ireland
Caretaker manager Gary McAllister admits Aston Villa midfielder Stephen Ireland has to gain full fitness before his "real talent" can blossom.
Ireland is returning to Villa to undergo rehabilitation work after his loan spell at Newcastle was cut short by injury setbacks.
It was a similar scenario during the first half of the campaign after Ireland moved to Villa from Manchester City as part of the deal which saw James Milner head in the opposite direction.
McAllister, who is continuing to deputise while manager Gerard Houllier recovers from a heart problem, said: "Stephen is an Aston Villa player. He's our responsibility.
"When he reports back, he needs to be assessed by the medical people here and then be set a programme to get fit.
"He has had all these problems for a long time now."
When asked if Ireland will still be at Villa next season, McAllister said: "He went on loan, it's not worked.
"He's had problems up at Newcastle as well, a number of injuries as well, groin, hamstring, ankle, he's not had much luck.
"There is no doubt he is a talented player but he's got to get fit before we see the real Stephen Ireland."
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He aint fit in the head, thats the problem..
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How does he get himself injured so much when he isn't even playing, it beggars belief!
An absolute fruit-cake!
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Maybe we are seeing the 'real' Stephen Ireland ..............and it's not a pretty sight
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As I said a long time ago, every expensive player should have psychiatric as well as physical evaluation before they are signed.
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I still wouldn't be totally against giving him another chance if he comes back with the right attitude this summer. A new manager may help in that regard but ultimately the onus will be on him, whether he wants to turn things around here or merely put himself in the shop window.
Kevin, well said.
There's latent talent there, maybe Hughes will end up Managing him ?
From what i've heard he might be, it wont be at Fulham though
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get rid. If he comes back next season it won't be long before he's back in the papers whether its for acting a prat or mouthing off at the club/fans/manager. He's a talented player but like Graig Bellamy, more trouble than he's worth.
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As I said a long time ago, every expensive player should have psychiatric as well as physical evaluation before they are signed.
Apparently Wenger does this in the form of a stupidly long questionnaire so it shows that some top managers agree. I think he could do with adding a few questions to test the players bottle mind.
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get rid. If he comes back next season it won't be long before he's back in the papers whether its for acting a prat or mouthing off at the club/fans/manager. He's a talented player but like Graig Bellamy, more trouble than he's worth.
The fact he's already been in the paper slating Birmingham should be enough for us to tell him to fuck off. Whether he thinks that or not, if he's being paid £50k a week or whatever it is by a club based in that city he should be a bit more respectful.
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get rid. If he comes back next season it won't be long before he's back in the papers whether its for acting a prat or mouthing off at the club/fans/manager. He's a talented player but like Graig Bellamy, more trouble than he's worth.
The fact he's already been in the paper slating Birmingham should be enough for us to tell him to fuck off. Whether he thinks that or not, if he's being paid £50k a week or whatever it is by a club based in that city he should be a bit more respectful.
So he should, and for that reason, I hope we fuck him off.
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Bottom line is he's an average footballer and a below average human.
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sign of the times . Its why Im going off Football. Most of us on here , struggling on our wages, probably getting a third of his weekly wage , in a years salary. This c**t gets ( is it 50,000 a week) and doesnt give a flying toss.
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I'd say the same thing about so many of our players this season.
Bunch of arseholes.