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Title: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on March 21, 2011, 03:19:51 PM
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Aston Villa striker Darren Bent insists manager Gerard Houllier still has the full backing of the club's players.

Villa find themselves looking over at the relegation trap door once again after suffering a surprise 1-0 home defeat to Wolves on Saturday.

The defeat means Houllier's troops are now just one point clear of third-from bottom Wolves, further intensifying the pressure on their Frenchman.

A number of Villa fans are unhappy with the former Liverpool boss at the helm and have called for his departure, but Bent insists the club's squad still have his back.

"We all believe in the manager and we're still fighting for him," said Bent. "There's no reason why we can't get out of it."

Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Risso on March 21, 2011, 03:23:00 PM
and I believe in Father Christmas and the Tooth Fairy.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: eastie on March 21, 2011, 03:24:59 PM
actions speak louder than words-just sack the fucker and give us a chance of staying up!
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: adrenachrome on March 21, 2011, 03:28:32 PM
I believe for every drop of rain that falls a flower grows

I believe that somewhere in the darkest night a candle glows
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: damon loves JT on March 21, 2011, 03:29:49 PM
looking over at the relegation trap door

With the drop zone breathing down our necks
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on March 21, 2011, 03:30:21 PM
I don't believe one word of it.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: pablopicasso_10 on March 21, 2011, 03:30:49 PM
i would hate to see them if they didnt believe in houllier!
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 21, 2011, 03:31:37 PM
I believe in mircales, baby,
I belive in yooooo
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: WikiVilla on March 21, 2011, 03:33:06 PM
Bent stick to doing what you do best
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on March 21, 2011, 03:34:07 PM
He's probably been asked about it?

What's he going to say? No actually we hate the ******? Course he's not goin to say that!

Also Bent was Houllier's signing, he must have said something to bring him here
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on March 21, 2011, 03:36:00 PM
I believe in a thing called love.

I'll also be rocking until the sun goes down (well, till about 7.30)
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: UsualSuspect on March 21, 2011, 03:36:38 PM
Bent stick to doing what you do best

Exactly

I'm sick of hearing player quotes about being behind, the manager, all the team is united blah blah blah

Just play football like you look remotely interested is all they need to do
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on March 21, 2011, 03:38:12 PM
Ironic Bent saying it, he didn't look the slightest bit interested on Saturday.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Risso on March 21, 2011, 03:46:27 PM
I believe in miracles, since you came along, you sexy thing.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 21, 2011, 03:47:32 PM
I believe in mircales, baby,
I belive in yooooo

Can't beat the Jackson Sisters to lift the mood. Nice one, Chico.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: PeterWithe on March 21, 2011, 03:49:24 PM
Blah, blah fucking blah. Dont tell me, show me.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: sidcowans10 on March 21, 2011, 03:50:15 PM
I often think that the fact players feel they have to come out and say such things suggests that they are actually not !! If there was not an issue surely it wouldn't need to be commented on ?
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Chris Smith on March 21, 2011, 03:52:41 PM
On Sunday some of you were using the idea that none of the players had spoken out backing the manager as proof that he had lost the changing room. Now that one of them does they won't accept it.



Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Oscar Arce on March 21, 2011, 03:53:08 PM
I believe that children are our future
Teach them well and let them lead the way
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Small Rodent on March 21, 2011, 03:53:29 PM
Back to The Godfather

I believe in America
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: cheltenhamlion on March 21, 2011, 03:53:57 PM
Mr Withe has got that just about right
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on March 21, 2011, 03:54:12 PM
The players performance on Saturday showed me that they don't want to play for him.

I can take losing, but not losing without any effort put in.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on March 21, 2011, 03:55:16 PM
As Sydney Youngblood once sang

Believe me, Believe me
If only I could
I'd kick Gerard up the arse
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: KevinGage on March 21, 2011, 03:55:45 PM
First time I can recall any of our players backing him this season. Scrap that, it's the first time I can recall any of our players saying anything remotely positive about him.

Charm offensive?  We'll soon see, I guess.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 21, 2011, 04:05:33 PM
No doubt some players said they believed in Billy McNeill with 8 games to go in 1986/7.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Breezeblock on March 21, 2011, 04:10:31 PM
I believe I can fly! I believe I can touch the sky!  I dont believe we'll be playing premier legue football next season though. I dont believe i'll renew my season ticket should this come to pass.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on March 21, 2011, 04:37:20 PM



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On Sunday some of you were using the idea that none of the players had spoken out backing the manager as proof that he had lost the changing room. Now that one of them does they won't accept it.




And if you believe that a footballer rent a quote means that we haven't got a divided dressing room then you really have lost the plot.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Cuz on March 21, 2011, 04:51:34 PM
No one really dislikes him they just don't understand what the fuck he's going on about and think he and GMac are completely bonkers, lots of head scratching going on in the Villa dressing room
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Fergal on March 21, 2011, 05:21:15 PM
I don't believe in him.  I am beginning to hate what he is doing to our club.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Villa'Zawg on March 21, 2011, 05:25:19 PM
"Disappointment haunted all my dreams"
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: WikiVilla on March 21, 2011, 05:28:27 PM
No one really dislikes him they just don't understand what the fuck he's going on about and think he and GMac are completely bonkers, lots of head scratching going on in the Villa dressing room

That's a bit harsh dragging him into it
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Chris Smith on March 21, 2011, 05:44:51 PM



On Sunday some of you were using the idea that none of the players had spoken out backing the manager as proof that he had lost the changing room. Now that one of them does they won't accept it.
And if you believe that a footballer rent a quote means that we haven't got a divided dressing room then you really have lost the plot.
[/quote]

I don't claim to know what goes on in the dressing room, I don't claim to be an expert in body language and I don't claim to be able to tell when a player is being genuine or is lying through his teeth from a 2 line quote on the Internet.
 
It appears that in those respects I am in a minority on this site lately.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Ian. on March 21, 2011, 05:52:50 PM
As Sydney Youngblood once sang

Believe me, Believe me
If only I could
I'd kick Gerard up the arse
Jesus.....Sydney Youngblood by eck how did you remember that!
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Ian. on March 21, 2011, 05:56:59 PM
Well if it's true they will have to prove it at Everton and after that again and again. I hope it is true.
We just got to stay up and Randy has seriously got to look at what is going on in May. From the fans point of view even Houllier must admit that it does not look rosey.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on March 21, 2011, 06:47:21 PM
If I were Randy Lerner I wouldn't sell any players if we go down and make them work for promotion for punishment. So if they lose their place in national team so be it.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: TopDeck113 on March 21, 2011, 06:53:45 PM
I would quite like it if not one single Villa player spoke to a media outlet between now and taking the field against Everton, at which point they'll show us all their undying love for the boss/the club/the shirt/the fans by giving Everton the mother of all thrashings.

In the real world, we'll get all the usual platitudes and a 2-0 defeat.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on March 21, 2011, 07:00:26 PM



On Sunday some of you were using the idea that none of the players had spoken out backing the manager as proof that he had lost the changing room. Now that one of them does they won't accept it.
And if you believe that a footballer rent a quote means that we haven't got a divided dressing room then you really have lost the plot.

I don't claim to know what goes on in the dressing room, I don't claim to be an expert in body language and I don't claim to be able to tell when a player is being genuine or is lying through his teeth from a 2 line quote on the Internet.
 
It appears that in those respects I am in a minority on this site lately.
[/quote]
Sorry Chris, I'm sure that sort of thing for a down well at St Gullibles, but the blind faith defence doesn't wash with me.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: sid cowans10 on March 21, 2011, 07:05:57 PM
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 Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
« Reply #16 on: Today at 03:50:15 PM »QuoteI often think that the fact players feel they have to come out and say such things suggests that they are actually not !! If there was not an issue surely it wouldn't need to be commented on ?

i believe someone has nicked my name
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: PaulTheVillan on March 21, 2011, 07:06:52 PM
Some amazing quoting in this thread.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: mozza on March 21, 2011, 07:07:05 PM
Never mind playing for the manager etc,..

How about the people who pay to watch a performance like last Saturday.......

Pride in your own performance maybe ?

Would be heartening to know that we had players who were fully committed
to the club, but those days are long gone and almost forgotten

Just have a half decent mini season of 8 matches with 3 wins and a draw, is
that too much to ask (for some of our players I fear it might be)     
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Chris Smith on March 21, 2011, 07:07:43 PM
Morrissey, you should stick to posting about shit because you're making little sense here.

I don't have much faith in the way things are going, blind or otherwise. But I'm not going to just fall in behind claims based on feelings and supposition.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on March 21, 2011, 07:43:42 PM
Morrissey, you should stick to posting about shit because you're making little sense here.

I don't have much faith in the way things are going, blind or otherwise. But I'm not going to just fall in behind claims based on feelings and supposition.

.
Now, now calm down.
All of this is about feelings and supposition. It's a forum to discuss shit, if you like. happening at our club. When a team is going down rhe pan, a player is always trotted out to show his support. It's tedious and tiresome and i dont believe it.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 21, 2011, 08:08:06 PM
Bent stick to doing what you do best

Exactly

I'm sick of hearing player quotes about being behind, the manager, all the team is united blah blah blah

Just play football like you look remotely interested is all they need to do


To be fair , If someone asks him the question , hes only answering  it ...       If he said fook off , we would be calling him a c**t   ;-)
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: adrenachrome on March 21, 2011, 08:17:30 PM
I'll tell you who pisses me off: fucking Cher.
Quote
Do you believe in life after love?
I can feel something inside me say
I really don't thinl you're strong enough
Which is fair enough I suppose and she is entitled to her belief.

But why is she smirking when she sings it?

And what is the something inside her?

It's fucked up.

 
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: The Left Side on March 21, 2011, 08:41:34 PM
Stop talking about it and do it on the pitch.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: hawkeye on March 21, 2011, 08:45:22 PM
Player backs manager, meaningless
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 21, 2011, 08:47:58 PM
I believe in justice, I believe in vengeance, I believe in getting the bastard.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Bad English on March 21, 2011, 09:15:12 PM
A) Gérard

B) Leave.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Des Little on March 21, 2011, 09:20:49 PM
As Big Ron said - Don't tell me, show me.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: peter w on March 21, 2011, 10:41:32 PM
I believe that  the devil's ready for repent
What I don't believe is Ronald Reagan is President.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Louzie0 on March 21, 2011, 10:45:47 PM
I believe that  the devil's ready for repent
What I don't believe is Ronald Reagan is President.

All right peter, it's time for your cocoa.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: placeforparks on March 22, 2011, 12:47:32 AM
'We believe in Houllier.'

read that to the tune of the beatles - yesterday.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Louzie0 on March 22, 2011, 12:58:05 AM
'We believe in Houllier.'

read that to the tune of the beatles - yesterday.


inspirational


we believe...
we believe...in..houllier
we believe in houllier, oh, we..believe...
in ho...ullier

just tried it and it works.   On a stylophone.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: KevinGage on March 22, 2011, 01:02:42 AM
I'll tell you who pisses me off: fucking Cher.
Quote
Do you believe in life after love?
I can feel something inside me say
I really don't thinl you're strong enough
Which is fair enough I suppose and she is entitled to her belief.

But why is she smirking when she sings it?

And what is the something inside her?

It's fucked up.

 

I dunno.

But it's definitely not Labi Siffri.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Louzie0 on March 22, 2011, 01:05:45 AM
yes I've still got one.  And then I tried it on the piano, the recorder and the guitar.

Still worked.

Although the piano's a bit out of tune.
And the recorder is a bit dried out.
The (acoustic) guitar - don't get me started.   :'(
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: darren woolley on March 22, 2011, 09:42:19 AM
I still say we will get out of ths mess i hope the staff and players are all pulling in the same direction that will make our job a lot easier.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Shrek on March 22, 2011, 11:42:50 AM
He backs Houllier but doesn't like playing up front on his own. Hmm.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on March 22, 2011, 11:59:07 AM
Interesting Bent quote on the formation

"He wants us to play this way and we've got to get on with it and adapt to it."

Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: MoetVillan on March 22, 2011, 12:07:14 PM
jeepers, that sounds a bit Bassett-England manager for my liking.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on March 22, 2011, 12:14:09 PM
I think at this stage, it would be wise to let the players play in a formation that they're more comfortable with.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Risso on March 22, 2011, 12:15:48 PM
Quote

But Bent knows the Villa players have to come to terms with Houllier's ideas and philosophies, and said: "It was difficult against Wolves, especially against those two (Berra and Stearman) as centre-halves. But, at the same time, the manager wants the system and, as professionals and players we've got to respect that."
He added: "If he wants to play one up front, then that's fair enough.
"As you said, the fans wanted to see 4-4-2 but this 4-5-1 seems like quite a common formation now. We have to try to make the system work.
"It's always difficult when you're the only striker trying to compete in the air against two centre halves but the main thing is the manager is not going to change it.
"He wants us to play this way and we've got to get on with it and adapt to it."

Hmmmmmm.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on March 22, 2011, 02:02:04 PM
Maybe the board should call a meeting with the players only and really find out whats going on
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: dcdavecollett on March 23, 2011, 01:02:01 PM
As soon as the board do that, the manager is finished.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: TimTheVillain on March 23, 2011, 01:06:39 PM
He was purchased by Le Gaffuer for £18 - £24 mill., so he isn't going to dislike him is he - or at least not show it.
Title: Re: Bent - 'We believe in Houllier.'
Post by: robbo1874 on March 23, 2011, 01:17:14 PM
I believe in mircales, baby,
I belive in yooooo
[I believe in houllier baby,
I believe in hou!]

sorry still aint got the hang of doing quotes in posts
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