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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on March 18, 2011, 08:01:58 PM
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Available Saturday afternoon.
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OK, it's 3pm, French time. I am getting into match thread mode. First titbit c/o Twitter @Lizzlsperger92 (http://twitter.com/#%21/Lizzlsperger92)
"Warnock and Gary Gardner got off the team bus."
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VILLA: Friedel; Walker, Cuellar, Herd, Baker; Albrighton, Makoun, Reo-Coker, Downing; A Young, Bent.
Subs: Marshall, Pires, Agbonlahor, Bradley, Delph, Heskey, Petrov.
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Come on you Villa boys, just win and win well.
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DINGLES: Hennessey, Foley, Stearman, Berra, Elokobi, Hammill, Milijas, Henry, Jarvis, O'Hara, Doyle.
Subs: Hahnemann, Craddock, Kightly, Ebanks-Blake, Fletcher, Ward, Jones.
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Happy with that
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I suspected as much, though I have a sneaking suspicion the back four might line up differently. However, I'm pleased with those attacking options. Incredibly, there isn't a single natural defender on the bench.
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strange...we've got such a strong bench these days compared to any recent year...
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not too worried about defenders...we just need to score about five and we should be ok
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AVFC: VILLA: Friedel; Walker, Cuellar, Herd, Baker; Albrighton, Makoun, Reo-Coker, Downing; A Young, Bent. Subs: Marshall, Pires, Agbonlahor, Bradley, Delph, Heskey, Petrov
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That is a good team from those available. Right off to VP now.
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AVFC: VILLA: Friedel; Walker, Cuellar, Herd, Baker; Albrighton, Makoun, Reo-Coker, Downing; A Young, Bent. Subs: Marshall, Pires, Agbonlahor, Bradley, Delph, Heskey, Petrov
Houllier must truly hate Beye and Warnock. Not even a defender on the bench. Fair enough if we win but if not surely some sort of truce should have been called. Then again those two could be acting disgracefully behind the scenes for all we know.
Dont think Delph deserved to be dropped but we should have a lot going forward today.
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Berne, don't forget the Wolves team! ;-)
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I didn't realise until an hour ago that the UK hasn't gone forward an hour for Spring.
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I didn't realise until an hour ago that the UK hasn't gone forward an hour for Spring.
Last Sunday in March in Europe.
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Our widemen should have a field day today. Particularly down the right with Walker supporting.
Bit worried about being outnumbered in the middle 3 v 2 . Hammill and Jarvis will put in decent deliveries if given space too.
Berra and Stearman are shocking. As is Hennessy.
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Our widemen should have a field day today. Particularly down the right with Walker supporting.
Bit worried about being outnumbered in the middle 3 v 2 . Hammill and Jarvis will put in decent deliveries if given space too.
Berra and Stearman are shocking. As is Hennessy.
Young's been staying deeper recently, not doing those aimless and selfish forward runs of a couple of months ago. He's going to have to keep that up today.
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I didn't realise until an hour ago that the UK hasn't gone forward an hour for Spring.
Last Sunday in March in Europe.
cheers BE. Bizarrely I think Europe moves back before us. Isn't there some suggestion for next year to move the clocks forward 2 hours for the Olympics?
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Carlos needs to have a good game today, hopefully he can hold that very inexperienced defence together.
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Our widemen should have a field day today. Particularly down the right with Walker supporting.
Bit worried about being outnumbered in the middle 3 v 2 . Hammill and Jarvis will put in decent deliveries if given space too.
Berra and Stearman are shocking. As is Hennessy.
Young's been staying deeper recently, not doing those aimless and selfish forward runs of a couple of months ago. He's going to have to keep that up today.
Henry will probably man mark him Id say. Henry is a thug so Young needs to get him on a yellow early on.
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Isn't there some suggestion for next year to move the clocks forward 2 hours for the Olympics?
That information is erroneous. They are, in fact, doing it in order to allow Robert Pires time to get up for Villa corners.
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Isn't there some suggestion for next year to move the clocks forward 2 hours for the Olympics?
That information is erroneous. They are, in fact, doing it in order to allow Robert Pires time to get up for Villa corners.
ah, yes. Makes a lot of sense. Or at least enough time for Dunne to finish his 4th serving of pie & chips and down his 14th pint ahead of training.
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More from @lizzlsperger "Partners in crime Dunney and Collins just arrived with their families at around the same time :P"
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Isn't there some suggestion for next year to move the clocks forward 2 hours for the Olympics?
That information is erroneous. They are, in fact, doing it in order to allow Robert Pires time to get up for Villa corners.
ah, yes. Makes a lot of sense. Or at least enough time for Dunne to finish his 4th serving of pie & chips and down his 14th pint ahead of training.
What? Dunne trains?
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Isn't there some suggestion for next year to move the clocks forward 2 hours for the Olympics?
That information is erroneous. They are, in fact, doing it in order to allow Robert Pires time to get up for Villa corners.
ah, yes. Makes a lot of sense. Or at least enough time for Dunne to finish his 4th serving of pie & chips and down his 14th pint ahead of training.
What? Dunne trains?
Yes, just like a shotputter does.
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Did you see the banna at villa park saying Had Enough Houllier out
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Did you see the banna at villa park saying Had Enough Houllier out
Barry Banna?
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Did you see the banna at villa park saying Had Enough Houllier out
That's great support.
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Isn't there some suggestion for next year to move the clocks forward 2 hours for the Olympics?
That information is erroneous. They are, in fact, doing it in order to allow Robert Pires time to get up for Villa corners.
ah, yes. Makes a lot of sense. Or at least enough time for Dunne to finish his 4th serving of pie & chips and down his 14th pint ahead of training.
What? Dunne trains?
yes. Training for the World Pie, Chips and Pint downing Cup. You haven't been to that event? Alan Brazil, Neil Ruddock and Neville Southall are all former winners.
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Afternoon all.
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Win Villa please.
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Bloody hell, why do we keep getting the devil incarnate commentating.
Come on Villa. Big 3 points please.
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whats up with the banner yeah dont like him but he had all of martins players it takes a than year him to get used to him in charge
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link anybody please ?
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It's a stupid banner, because we need to support them as much as we can. Assuming we stay up he deserves a chance to get rid of some of the bad apples.
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anyone got a decent thread PLEASE !
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Houllier showing his usual level of animation during the minute's silence.
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stream http://sportstream24.com/england_football/watch_online_6
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Come on you Villa Boys.
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Bad feeling about today. We won't recover from a defeat to this lot...... Any radio links?
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Herd playing centre back
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Jesus
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Jesus
He wasn't available.
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It's a stupid banner, because we need to support them as much as we can. Assuming we stay up he deserves a chance to get rid of some of the bad apples.
Huge cheer when it was pulled down at least
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come on guys, any decent links?
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stream http://sportstream24.com/england_football/watch_online_6
Ta, but not doing much for me
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Has Houllier had a 'Ray Reardon' down at the barber's?
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me neither, anyone else?
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Defence needs to get organised.
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Afternoon all =)
http://www.vipcanals.net/ch5.html (http://www.vipcanals.net/ch5.html)not great but it's up and working.
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Blues winning....
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http://atdhenet.tv/35899/watch-aston-villa-vs-wolverhampton
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Villastreams CH 7.
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just pay £1.99 for a day pass on Villa streams!
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sickening
come on villa!
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West Brazil ahead of Arse.
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http://www.vipcanals.net/ch5.html
its not English commentary though
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crap free kick shocker
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Lot of empty seats at VP.
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yes, alot of empty seats.....weird...
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Looks like McAllister's been to the barbers too!
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crap free kick shocker
Surely not Young?
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That's it! I'm officially shitting myself.
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Really good football until Ash's pass to Bent.
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Ashley: how much do you earn? And you can't weight a pass?
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Aargh. Lovely bit of movement down the left but that is Ashley in a nutshell these days. In a tight bit of space he manages to knock the ball forward and take a defender out of the game. Then when it comes to the far easier task of a lightly treaded ball through to Bent he overhits it. So often he does it, fucking annoying.
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let's make something of this corner FFS
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corner - COME ON!
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That's it! I'm officially shitting myself.
I've thought we've been doomed for some time now. Houllier has completely fucked up the defence and we miss far too many chances. I wouldnt surprised if we finished bottom it's so tight down there......
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Why does Trevor "Lord of death and destruction and all things bad including Bobby Davro" Francis always commentate on Villa games?
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villastreams is always a bit shit for me.
Makoun has been hopless thus far and we are very shaky at the back so far
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Hennessy looks like he should be driving cows.
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villastreams is always a bit shit for me.
It keeps freezing for me. It's doing my head in.
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Bollocks! No! disallowed!
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Fuck me, that was close!!
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FUCK ME
edit: Thank fuck for the linesman
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Got away with that.
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phew! offside
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The thing that worries me the most is Houllier and McAllister look totally and utterly clueless when the chips are down. All the good that RL has done for Villa could be undone his decision to get GH out of retirement........
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yes, come on lads, we'll do these...bit of patience
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Set piece though. My pants are trembling.
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In fairness they had 3 or 4 players offside there, so they were always going to get to the ball first.
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thank fuck the linesman spotted that. great cross in. baker is struggling
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Ahhhhh, ahhhhhhhh, ahhhhhhhh, nowhere near.
Fuck me that was close.
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nice scarf Gerard. Let's hope that offside is a wake up!
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Baker kneads to rise to the occasion.
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seeing Tony Daley is the highlight so far!
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Tony Daley?!!!!
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Baker kneads to rise to the occasion.
:)
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what an inspiring first 25 minutes.
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wigan equalise against the dog shit
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fair play wigan
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Baker kneads to rise to the occasion.
Dozen't seem to be so far...
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Baker kneads to rise to the occasion.
Dozen't seem to be so far...
its the bread and butter stuff he needs to improve at
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Baker kneads to rise to the occasion.
Dozen't seem to be so far...
its the bread and butter stuff he needs to improve at
The dough he gets..
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Again fortunate.
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Geoff Capes please.
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Baker kneads to rise to the occasion.
The dough he gets..
Dozen't seem to be so far...
its the bread and butter stuff he needs to improve at
At yeast he hasn't scored an og yet!
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We're going to lose this comfortably if we don't buck our ideas up.
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blackburn are in the shit i reckon
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Doyle isn't very tall so how come he keeps winning headers in the box?
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Delph on?
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Delph for Herd?
edit: for Baker. It will give us a better threat down the left, and a quicker against their right midfield
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What were Blackburn playing at when they sacked Sam Allardyce they're going down
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Delph coming on for?
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Delph on for Baker, injured or just struggling badly?
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baker off delph on
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At home to Wolves and we look second best. Thats sad.
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They're not reading our puns on the bench I hope?
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have wolves had 2 disallowed?!
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have wolves had 2 disallowed?!
Yep and they were both the correct decision.
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At home to Wolves and we look second best. Thats sad.
That is Villa 2010/11 I'm afraid. Apart from some decent youth players coming through I'm trying to find a positive from this season, can somebody please help?!?!
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I don't know much about Baker, is he not particularly attack minded?
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why the fuck didn't we buy Adam, I think we would have been safe weeks ago if we had.
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For a company that punked out their deal with us, FxPro certainly are getting a lot of exposure at VP.
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Bollocks!
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shit
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Oh bollox.
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Don't want to sound defeatest, however we look dreadful. No confidence and no idea. Squeaky bum time at the bottom of the table.......and Wolves have just scored Fuck!!
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WE HAVE BEEN SHIT
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Oh dear, terrible from set piece.
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Shit!
Good job we took Baker off..
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Exactly what we deserve.
What a load of shite
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why the fuck didn't we buy Adam, I think we would have been safe weeks ago if we had.
By forcing him at gunpoint? He didn't want to join us thats why Houllier decided against it.
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Bugger.
Bugger.
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That's been coming since we started. We're poor in every part of the pitch
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Houllier out! Houllier out! Houllier out! Houllier out! Houllier out! Houllier out! Houllier out! Houllier out! Houllier out! Houllier out! Houllier out!
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Now we are fucked
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My god we are shit
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Sleeves up and show some fight now.
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Houllier out! Houllier out! Houllier out! Houllier out! Houllier out! Houllier out! Houllier out! Houllier out! Houllier out! Houllier out! Houllier out!
I'll tell you what though, we'll have a fair bit of cash to spend in the Championship with the amount of players leaving us in the summer. Maybe thats what we need?
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why the fuck didn't we buy Adam, I think we would have been safe weeks ago if we had.
By forcing him at gunpoint? He didn't want to join us thats why Houllier decided against it.
we don't know that, Blackpool didn't accept our bid(s).
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No more than we've deserved. Good strike. But FFS! Come on Villa!!
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come on Villa!!!!! fuck these, come on
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Oh dear. We're not very good.
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My patience is done. Im finally going for Houllier out!! Give Big Sam the job until the end of the season..........that is how desperate I've become.
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OMG, soon we aren't even going to have the "famous" form table to console us..
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havent come from behind to win this season.
Makoun has been shocking. Harsh on Baker I would have preferred Makoun being withdrawn but Delph is an improvement.
Cuellar had to do better for the goal and Downing was asleep not tracking Jarvis.
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We can't go down. That'll mean at least one w midlands club will be in a division above us!
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I genuinely think we are going to get relegated.
This is truly pathetic.
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the banner that was up at the start sums everything up for me
but no we gave him 30 million to spunk
just fuck right off villa
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He's been absolutely clueless since day one.
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I genuinely think we are going to get relegated.
This is truly pathetic.
I think I may agree with you
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we are in a spot of bother here chaps. This hasn't been good at all. I hope the second half brings something because we have to score twice. A draw will be a very bad result.
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I genuinely think we are going to get relegated.
This is truly pathetic.
It's horrrible, but I think you're right. I really thought we'd get out of this pretty comfortably, but watching this today........Jesus, we're poor.
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too much talking in the press-i know they all do it, but when has a manager said 'we're together, we'll do this for the fans etc etc' and it has actually happened?
fucking frustrating.....lets see 24 millions worth of striker pop in a few in second half.
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I genuinely think we are going to get relegated.
This is truly pathetic.
I'm starting to believe it. We're just not a good team.
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You have to score those.
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Shocking miss by Makoun
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We play some decent approach play however we need the final ball to be better. The fact we aren't creating/taking the chances is the reason we are where we find ourselves in the table.
The next few weeks will be very twitchy.
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Makoun well wide. You have to hit the target at the very least from there.
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all these players-walker, young, downing, albrighton, reo coker, makoun, bent
what the hell are they doing out there today?
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Putain Jeannot 2 ! Comment t'as pu manquer cette occasion ?
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Bent off Gabby on he's offered nothing!
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Elokobi is shocking we will have umpteen crosses into the box in the second half.
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I genuinely think we are going to get relegated.
This is truly pathetic.
I'm starting to believe it. We're just not a good team.
It is possible to be a really poor team but survive through spirit alone - Wolves have plenty of spirit.
Look at us by contrast, we have no spirit whatsoever, absolutely zero
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4-5-1 has not worked. At the risk of opening ourselves up even more, we need to get Gabby on. This is brutal.
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Shocking shit alltogether.
Doomed, Doomed I said.
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Bent off Gabby on he's offered nothing!
He might do nothing for 89 mins and get the crucial goal.
I cant believe how much experience he has left on the bench in such a crucial game.
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Whether we stay up or get relegated Houllier has to go and take McAllister with him. Clueless ******.............
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what a pile of shit.
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This is awful, just awful.
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I genuinely think we are going to get relegated.
This is truly pathetic.
its sad i think.....i really was looking forward to today-thought a derby would put some life into us...
still think we'l win....3-2
I'm starting to believe it. We're just not a good team.
It is possible to be a really poor team but survive through spirit alone - Wolves have plenty of spirit.
Look at us by contrast, we have no spirit whatsoever, absolutely zero
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Right, time to cirlce the wagons get something out of this save the season and deal with the chaff in the summer. Moaning wont help the team any.
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I think were that desperate I'd bring in Sam Allardyce
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Why does it take getting it to 0-1 to make us show any urgency?
Alarming stats from the commentator, something about not coming from behind and winning all season. Going behind 12 times and losing 10 of those. I'll cheer myself by looking at Wolves' away record...
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Hi fellas. Just got in and on VS. Apart from the scoreline - how we played?
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Enough for me guys, link going off, laptop going off and I'm off to mow the grass, oh, and mobile off, stop my inlaw Wolves fan texting me from the match!! ..bonne journée all.
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Bent off Gabby on he's offered nothing!
He might do nothing for 89 mins and get the crucial goal.
I cant believe how much experience he has left on the bench in such a crucial game.
Are you serious, he has totally dismantled a solid albeit boring to watch team. Randy what the fucking hell have you done?? :(
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If we lose this we will lose a lot of confidence.This is were the thought of an FA Cup semi to look forward to would help.
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As Liverpool relegate us on the final day I can see Houllier spouting "if I had to be relegated by anyone I would prefer it to be Liverpool".
Still his "passionate" and "animated" team talk will no doubt spark a 2nd half revival today. Jesus wept.
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Hi fellas. Just got in and on VS. Apart from the scoreline - how we played?
We haven't turned up today
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Not a shot on target, being outclassed by wolves, Oh dear i am fearing the worst now.
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its time for Houllier to earn the millions he gets paid at half-time
i expect villa to come flying out of the traps at the start of the 2nd half
lets even show a slight bit of passion, we are in a relegation battle ffs
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Hi fellas. Just got in and on VS. Apart from the scoreline - how we played?
not well Tony. Not well at all.
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Houllier is a disasterous appointment and he's going to be here for the rest of the season at least. I just can't see us winning another game
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Look at us by contrast, we have no spirit whatsoever, absolutely zero
Thats the frightening thing I'm afraid...
Come on Villa! same as what we did to Blackburn will do.
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Wolves are 19th at the moment. 16-19 are on 32 points. We are fifteenth on 33 points. Gulp!
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Hi fellas. Just got in and on VS. Apart from the scoreline - how we played?
not well Tony. Not well at all.
Bugger - I expected us to be ay their throats today.
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Hi fellas. Just got in and on VS. Apart from the scoreline - how we played?
mediocre game, Wolves had 2 goals disallowed (offside and ball went over the byline). Took Baker off after about half hour...not sure if he felt he was responsible for poor defending. Brought Delph on. Concede goal then start to show some urgency. Couple of ok crosses into the box but only one decent chance Makoun header from 5 yards went wide.
Haven't noticed Herd do anything wrong in an unfamilar position. Haven't noticed Makoun or Reo Coker do anything I expected them to.
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its time for Houllier to earn the millions he gets paid at half-time
i expect villa to come flying out of the traps at the start of the 2nd half
lets even show a slight bit of passion, we are in a relegation battle ffs
I expect to see us pushing for a equaliser and conceding a second around 60 mins. 1-2 defeat. I'd fuck Houllier off and get anybody in charge for the remaining games, nobody could do a worse job than he has this season.
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Given what he inherited, and what's been spent since, Houllier is the worst manager we had since we were last relegated. All this "signs of nice football" shite, we're fucking awful. Randy, what HAVE you done?
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Martin Jol or Sam Allardyce prefer Sam Allardyce as has a history of getting clubs out of the mess were in! Got the best out of Warnock also in his last season.
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Houllier is a disasterous appointment and he's going to be here for the rest of the season at least. I just can't see us winning another game
Doomed, doomed, doomed.
I've seen plenty on here calling for the kids to play, well they are and its a disastrous performance. We have no depth in the squad, how pathetic is it that we don't have enough cover defenders we are playing 2 midfield players as defenders, its crazy.
There's no fight, no will to succeed, so it looks like the midweek bonding session was a huge unquestionable success.
I'm just hoping its a Blackburn like second half, otherwise, they'll score several more.
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Terrible performance. Stray balls and a lack of conviction all over the pitch. Will he change things up? will he bollox.
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If we dont turn this around today - i really think we could go down.
Come on guys - time to step up to the plate.
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Hi fellas. Just got in and on VS. Apart from the scoreline - how we played?
not well Tony. Not well at all.
Bugger - I expected us to be ay their throats today.
we've been very flat, and McCarthy has obviously lit a fire under their lot. We look very unsure of ourselves, and we need an early goal in the 2nd half. The longer this goes the worse it will be, and I won't be in the least suprised to see Wolves get a second. If we get a goal in the first 10-15 minutes, I can see us having enough to win. But first of all, and most importantly, we need to hsve more belief. I just don't see where that's going to come from right now.
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Afternoon all. Grim viewing I know however, lets not start knotting the noose just yet. Anyone remember Newcastle a few seasons back? Dreadful first half. Quick goal from Freddie B and the barcodes fell to pieces... and it was sunny too.
UTV
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I've seen plenty on here calling for the kids to play, well they are and its a disastrous performance.
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To be honest, we only really have kids in defence, and only due to injuries. Albrighton I think has earned a start, and most others are on loan. For me, the experience in attack should be asking more questions and Friedel should be leading more to support the youngsters. There is an altogether lack of togetherness.
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second half predictions here-scoreline
3-2 villa
and a link please?
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Petrov for Makoun for me at half time. He should be able for 45 mins against the crap Wolves have in midfield. Might be braver to give Bradley a run but his horror show at City would scare me. Petrov's experience is needed imo out there. We look an absolute rabble out there and his experience might give us a lift.
Our widemen have done well when on the right so I dont think there is a point bringing on Gabby. Full backs need to push on more and Bent needs to wake the fuck up. He looks like he has lead in his boots. Makoun has been absolutely shocking imo and part of the reason we cant link any play up.
The players look afraid of the occasion for me. All looking to someone else to provide some inspiration. Wolves are an absolutely shit side but they have spirit. We are gutless.
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Quietest i've ever seen Villa Park
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Relegation teams are the one that lose belief in themselves at the wrong time of the season and just sink. I think Wigan are already there, Blackburn are on a very steep downward slope, and we're not far behind. When I look at West Ham, Blackpool or even the shit or the baggies, they all have a nastiness about them to get them out of jail. If we don't find that it's going to be tough going. The aim was to get to the last two games of the season already safe. I'm not sure we will have done enough by them. I think the Bolton game really knocked the stuffing out of us, coupled with last weeks unsavoury events.
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Half time in family part of trinity. Wolves fans in box above. First time I think he night need to go. Been desperate. Dowd still a fat prick.
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Quietest i've ever seen Villa Park
I'm not there today, but there's been a moribund feeling around the club for a while.
Against Blackburn in the first half it was incredibly tense. It seems similarly tense today.
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mmy links turned into motorbikes and an advert for dating russian girls
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mmy links turned into motorbikes and an advert for dating russian girls
Some are luckier than others
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Wolves are poor... and we're worse!
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mmy links turned into motorbikes and an advert for dating russian girls
same here ?
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she's quite nice though
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If Wigan beat Blues, which normally would be most amusing, and other scores stay the same, the bottom 6 looks terrifying!
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any other links guys?
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make this count
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Fuck me I'm starting to get worried. If we cannot beat a limited team like Wolves then the writing might be on the wall.
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Thats a penalty.
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Wake me up when March is over.
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he wouldn't have given a pen if he'd thought it was inside the box!
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For fuck's sake Dowd, you wanker.
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that was 100% a pen, even Trev thought it was
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links please ?
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Good point by Francis about the total lack of appeals from our players.
You could be forgiven for thinking they're not that arsed.
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Stone wall pen and yellow card!!! NOT GIVEN!
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Here we go.
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Sums it all up though, not one player showing any passion and asking the ref why it isn't a fking pen. We are too NICE and will be relegared because of it. The Wolves players would have been all over the ref there.
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WWWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
links please????
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Good point by Francis about the total lack of appeals from our players.
You could be forgiven for thinking they're not that arsed.
Complete agree, Houllier's certainly lost the players confidence
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http://www.vipcanals.net/ch5.html
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not working for me but thanks for trying.
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Good point by Francis about the total lack of appeals from our players.
You could be forgiven for thinking they're not that arsed.
Bit like Houllier and co
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Sums it all up though, not one player showing any passion and asking the ref why it isn't a fking pen. We are too NICE and will be relegared because of it. The Wolves players would have been all over the ref there.
I remember being very impressed when Le Gaffeur came in and spoke of Villa needing to be nastier and to have more "biting teeth". He's turned us from being slightly too nice to the softest fucking touch in the league. If you are looking bad we are the team you want to be playing.
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I'm seriously worried, :(
Make something happen villa, please.
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Dread to think what we would of been like if we hadn't been on a team 'bonding' trip. Fuck me!!
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we are not going to score today.
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This is truly absolutely dreadful. We are shit, we look like we think we've got all the time in the world, like we've switched off for the summer.
It is like we're playing in slow motion.
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come on uncle Bob, save us!!!
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It just wont happen for us.
This season = Annus horribilis so far.
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last appeal for a decent link or I'm off !!!, then you'll be sorry!
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Dread to think what we would of been like if we hadn't been on a team 'bonding' trip. Fuck me!!
I know! I can't even laugh with Newcastle being 3-0 down!
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And here comes a man who really does play in slow motion.
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Right well come on Gabby and Robert.
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Oh dear, "you don't know what you're doing"
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Good point by Francis about the total lack of appeals from our players.
You could be forgiven for thinking they're not that arsed.
Bit like Houllier and co
I've never seen a less arsed management team. Houllier probably is a good manager if you're in the top ten trying to push on and many of the changes are for the long term good. But, he's not the man you want leading you out of a relegation scrap and relegation would be a disaster for this club right now. We probably should have got rid of Houllier by now.
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Oh dear - negative chants! It won't help.
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For the first time this season, I genuinely think were screwed.
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Please tell me we're playing 4-4-2 with Young out wide.
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Young on the wing and Gabby and Bent in the middle FFS.
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Please tell me we're playing 4-4-2 with Young out wide.
Errrr....
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For the first time this season, I genuinely think were screwed.
Me too. I just don't see the points coming.
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If we lose today, should GH be fired?
Can we risk keeping him?
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The commentators on this Spanish link don't know their arse from their elbow.
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Young on the wing and Gabby and Bent in the middle FFS.
Even Trev can see that.
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West brom 2 up!
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the baggies 2-0 vs Arsenal isn't helping matters at all.
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To make things worse, Albion 2 up
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If we lose today, should GH be fired?
Can we risk keeping him?
Sack him and get Big Sam in on Sunday with the simple brief of keeping us up
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Baggies 2 - Arsenal 0
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Young on the wing and Gabby and Bent in the middle FFS.
Even Trev can see that.
He's reading this thread.
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Surely with the personnel on the pitch. we should be risking a good old-fashioned 2-3-5.
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come on lads
keep going
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This is beyond pathetic today.
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Why can't we put a cross nearer the penalty spot (away from the keeper).
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Former Villa man Hennessey has had nothing to do all afternoon. Welcome back son.
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http://www.livefootballtvs.com/channel/derby-hd2-sopcast.html
have to have sopcast though
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The commentators on this Spanish link don't know their arse from their elbow.
Sounds like the perfect job for Ged.
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Please tell me we're playing 4-4-2 with Young out wide.
We can only dream of a team with shape to be honest. GH has been 'trying' this system for so long, I dont think he'll ever change it. Gabby on the wing, Young in the hole, does NOT work.
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Offside again!
This is arse.
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Former Villa man Hennessey has had nothing to do all afternoon. Welcome back son.
Isnt he the one who is the partner of that Liz from The Apprentice?
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Why can't we put a cross nearer the penalty spot (away from the keeper).
Because we are shit.
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If we need points from the last 2 games then I really think we will be sunk.
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If we lose today, should GH be fired?
Can we risk keeping him?
Sack him and get Big Sam in on Sunday with the simple brief of keeping us up
I'm inclined to agree with you, even on Big Sam. Jesus wept.
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THIS IS SHIT
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Is this what we ditched the fa cup for??
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Fuck me, that was a let off.
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If we lose today, should GH be fired?
Can we risk keeping him?
Sack him and get Big Sam in on Sunday with the simple brief of keeping us up
I'm inclined to agree with you, even on Big Sam. Jesus wept.
That's how desperate we are
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Lucky escape there.
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This is appalling! I don't think Randy will be able to ignore this now. It's obvious he has lost the dressing room, because these players are definately not interested!
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fuck me Ash. You have been bollocks today
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Pires ohsweetmotherofjesus - someone take him out a wheelchair
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now now everybody - no knee jerk reactions please!!!!!!
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http://www.vipcanals.net/ch5.html
Rated cack
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I've said for ages that there's no point sacking him, as it'd just hasten our relegation, and that I could see the positives he was achieving, but watching this, he has clearly lost the dressing room beyond retrieval. I genuinely can't see how we're ever going to pick more points up.
We need to be putting a run of results together, but we're currently turning in a performance so insipid that it suggests we're only going one way, down. The frightening thing is, it looks more and more like a runaway train that Houllier has no control of.
Very, very worrying.
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we've played like arse for 70 minutes. 20 minutes or so to save this
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A shot on target !
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Top tip - if you want Villastreams, pay for one of the monthly subscriptions, as a one day pass makes you feel that you have to watch the whole 90 minute nightmare.
let's hope something happens to change things over the next 20 minutes!
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Wow well done ash a SHOT ON TARGET!
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now now everybody - no knee jerk reactions please!!!!!!
I think 1-0 down at home to Wolves, looking clueless, gutless and passionless and a point off the relegation zone, doesn't exactly qualify as a knee jerk reaction.....
Houllier OUT
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2-1 at west brom now
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2-1 at west brom now
Come on, Arsenal, for fuck's sake
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I've said for ages that there's no point sacking him, as it'd just hasten our relegation, and that I could see the positives he was achieving, but watching this, he has clearly lost the dressing room beyond retrieval. I genuinely can't see how we're ever going to pick more points up.
We need to be putting a run of results together, but we're currently turning in a performance so insipid that it suggests we're only going one way, down. The frightening thing is, it looks more and more like a runaway train that Houllier has no control of.
Very, very worrying.
Right now, my stomach is turning inside out. I've never seen a need to criticise for the sake of it, and for a little while things were turning around. Is the confidence of this football club so fragile that certain performances or results influence others so much. The famous Stoke game, the great performance and subsequent defeat at Bolton. Is that now our Stoke that will see the season just crash? It is such an empty feeling and I'm trying like everyone to hang on to something.
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Wolves parking the bus.
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some great stats about Wolves not being able to hold on to leads and conceding late goals a lot
The main stat is - not to worry, they are playing Aston Villa
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I've said for ages that there's no point sacking him, as it'd just hasten our relegation, and that I could see the positives he was achieving, but watching this, he has clearly lost the dressing room beyond retrieval. I genuinely can't see how we're ever going to pick more points up.
We need to be putting a run of results together, but we're currently turning in a performance so insipid that it suggests we're only going one way, down. The frightening thing is, it looks more and more like a runaway train that Houllier has no control of.
Very, very worrying.
You say it like its fact that sacking him would hasten our relegation. When there is absolutely no basis for that. Venables coming on board to save Boro for one.
There is no defending Houllier's results. He has to go after the game or the club will face financial meltdown.
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I cant wait till this season is over.
The weekends will be far less depressing.
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Thank fuck we only have three games in March this year and this is the last.
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I've said for ages that there's no point sacking him, as it'd just hasten our relegation, and that I could see the positives he was achieving, but watching this, he has clearly lost the dressing room beyond retrieval. I genuinely can't see how we're ever going to pick more points up.
We need to be putting a run of results together, but we're currently turning in a performance so insipid that it suggests we're only going one way, down. The frightening thing is, it looks more and more like a runaway train that Houllier has no control of.
Very, very worrying.
You say it like its fact that sacking him would hasten our relegation. When there is absolutely no basis for that. Venables coming on board to save Boro for one.
There is no defending Houllier's results. He has to go after the game or the club will face financial meltdown.
I'm not saying it is fact, I'm saying that that's been my take on it for a long time, but now I am not at all sure.
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Would anyone take a defeat here today (given the score already) if it meant Houllier went?
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AAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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shit!!!
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I've defended Houllier all season but after he proved at Man City in the FA Cup he is without doubt coping very badly with senility. I'm absolutely lost for fucking words........
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How the fuck did that not go in.
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Young = left wing therefore when runs in to centre looses his marker = great chance
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at least we are getting chances now
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fuck me. Cuellar. What in the hell was that?
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I can see Wolves getting a second here.
Not because they're threatening it, but because that's just the sort of thing that happens to us.
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we can't concede anymore, goal difference will matter with all the teams so tightly bunched together.
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we need a late goal so badly. If football really is about everything evening out over a season, then give us a late goal.
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Would anyone take a defeat here today (given the score already) if it meant Houllier went?
I never want to see my team lose. Even if we win and I hope we do, I will continue to doubt the manager. Until I see signs we are moving forward I will doubt him and I will gladly eat humble pie if he proves me wrong next season.
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Arsenal level
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Arsenal level, thank god!
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I can see Wolves getting a second here.
Not because they're threatening it, but because that's just the sort of thing that happens to us.
yep. A break away from another shit corner, or something equally as bollocks
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Arsenal equalise!
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Sounds like I've missed a bad one and we are relying on everyone else again......Oh dear oh dear
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Arsenal level, thank god!
That's something at least.
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Arsenal level
and Blackburn, does that mean everyone around us gets points today, except us!?
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ive also backed him till now but its clear he cannot motivate the players and appears to have lost the dressing room , we simply must avoid relegation and i think we may be best served now to make a change , if we dont i dont think we will stay up as things are so dreadfully wrong at our club.
Given time i hink houllier could improve us a team and a club but we cannot take the risk of relegation so its time to say au revoir!
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Pathetic needing teams like west brom to fuck up because we can't go and win against other shit teams.
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Among other horrors, Phil Dowd must never be allowed to referree again.
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this is so depressing.....anyone feel like crying?
Arsenal level!!!
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Arsenal level
and Blackburn, does that mean everyone around us gets points today, except us!?
Sorry still 1-2!
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This is the lowest we've been in sometime, if he has any honour he'd realise the total fuck up he's made of this season and walk tonight.......
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Would anyone take a defeat here today (given the score already) if it meant Houllier went?
I never want to see my team lose. Even if we win and I hope we do, I will continue to doubt the manager. Until I see signs we are moving forward I will doubt him and I will gladly eat humble pie if he proves me wrong next season.
I get what you're saying. It pains me to say it, however I would for go a point today if it meant Houllier going tomorrow. I believe ANY new man coming in would get more points than these clueless muppets. Sad times
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I feel like vomiting watching this. What a gutless shower of ******.
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There's not single positive thing that can be gleamed from this.
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eastie, you've done a complete U turn in the space of a couple of days, on the other thread that sacking him after the Wolves game would be a knee jerk reaction.
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Right, I'm off to work. Bollox to football.
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this is so depressing.....anyone feel like crying?
Arsenal level!!!
I don't feel like crying. I feel powerless. Like I'm being tortured and have no power to resist.
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I feel like vomiting watching this. What a gutless shower of c***s.
My sentiments exactly.
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Trev pointing out why Ashley is taking a free kick that Brad could've took!
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Fucking Trevor Francis nailed it right there. Why is Ash taking a free kick from his own half? Why can't a defender take it?
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With our players on top form we would easily win this. I don't think the problem is the players.
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Would anyone take a defeat here today (given the score already) if it meant Houllier went?
I never want to see my team lose. Even if we win and I hope we do, I will continue to doubt the manager. Until I see signs we are moving forward I will doubt him and I will gladly eat humble pie if he proves me wrong next season.
I get what you're saying. It pains me to say it, however I would for go a point today if it meant Houllier going tomorrow. I believe ANY new man coming in would get more points than these clueless muppets. Sad times
I'm not sure this rabble can be saved. If we lose today we are in it. Regardless of the impact of a loss aside from points on the board three points today would be the surest way to ensure survival.
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this is so depressing.....anyone feel like crying?
Arsenal level!!!
I don't feel like crying. I feel powerless. Like I'm being tortured and have no power to resist.
I have the same feeling.
Combined with feeling almost dead and totally numb inside.
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Would anyone take a defeat here today (given the score already) if it meant Houllier went?
I never want to see my team lose. Even if we win and I hope we do, I will continue to doubt the manager. Until I see signs we are moving forward I will doubt him and I will gladly eat humble pie if he proves me wrong next season.
I get what you're saying. It pains me to say it, however I would for go a point today if it meant Houllier going tomorrow. I believe ANY new man coming in would get more points than these clueless muppets. Sad times
I'm not sure this rabble can be saved. If we lose today we are in it. Regardless of the impact of a loss aside from points on the board three points today would be the surest way to ensure survival.
Fair one, not going to happen though us it. I actually do think a manager who could inspire a little confidence and teach the team how to defend would get points and quickly
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The only way our season can be saved is for Randy to rectify the mistake he has made. Getting Rid of Houllier would boost the players and hopefully enable us to crawl over the line......
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Is Houllier the new Billy McNeil??
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Hopefully the crowd will let Randy know what to do..
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why not send him off? - just sum up the club up the moment
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This is utterly shite. We've lost our heads, heart and all ideas. Everton away next. Ash being a twat on top of everything else.
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The only way our season can be saved is for Randy to rectify the mistake he has made. Getting Rid of Houllier would boost the players and hopefully enable us to crawl over the line......
Could be our only hope now
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Is Houllier the new Billy McNeil??
Not yet but he's working on it.
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Shockin!!!! Go tonight please
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Please please please God. I'm expecting a miracle right now.
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Fucks sake, Ashley
He gets a suspension and we are done for.
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Is Houllier the new Billy McNeil??
Surely worse?? McNeil didn't have the money to spend that Houllier has had.......
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Send off that ****** Ashley Young. Obviously doesnt want to be there. Cowardly prick.
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Ashley Young should have been sent off already. He's lost it.
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Randy must act
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Send off that c*** Ashley Young. Obviously doesnt want to be there. Cowardly prick.
He's one of the very few players who have looked like they give a shit today.
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Randy must act
I hope he acts but I don't think he will.
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3 minutes to sort this shit out.
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Remember Houllier been quoted saying "players are united" I think he should have finished the sentenced "against him!"
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Randy must act
to stop us becoming the equivalent of the Cleveland Browns?
Spineless players, manager and ethos around the club
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2-2 blackburn
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5 minutes added time!
All over dude
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At least Blues lost
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blose losing 2-1
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2-2 blackburn
That's good for us.
We've been quite lucky with the other results today, all told.
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blose losing 2-1
And that is even better.
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At least Blues lost
Great - now we're 3 points off the bottom!
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Send off that c*** Ashley Young. Obviously doesnt want to be there. Cowardly prick.
He's one of the very few players who have looked like they give a shit today.
Kicking people is headless not an illustration of commitment. A striker taking a free kick that should be left for the keeper is also not clever or useful.
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Bag of shit. Roy of the Rovers can fuck off. In fact, they were all shit in the main. Fuck off world. Down down, deeper and down.