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Title: Which Keeper
Post by: ROBBO on March 06, 2011, 09:19:37 AM
There are a lot of good shot stoppers in the premiership but not many that can command their area and can handle crosses around the six yard box. Out of Villa past. if possible who would you like in between thr sticks now? I will start off with Nigel Sims.
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: villa1 on March 06, 2011, 09:23:26 AM
Spink
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Post by: robinleper on March 06, 2011, 09:28:34 AM
Ozzie Bozzie
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Post by: VillaZogmariner on March 06, 2011, 09:36:35 AM
At his peak - Schmichael

Over what they did during their career - Bosnich, Spink or James.
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Post by: Percy McCarthy on March 06, 2011, 09:38:43 AM
Bozzie at his best. Spink was terrible on crosses.
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: VillaZogmariner on March 06, 2011, 09:41:11 AM
I can only really remember the tail end of Spinksy's career with us. Bozzie was outstanding, although his weakness was his kicking.

Out of the three I've picked above I think I'd go with James though.
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: flybo on March 06, 2011, 09:42:39 AM
Jimmy Rimmer every time
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Post by: Whiney MacWhineface on March 06, 2011, 09:45:55 AM
Jimmy Rimmer. Best all-round keeper we've had in my life, though he didn't have to face kicking the damn thing off the floor. Bosnich was a wonderful keeper but his kicking terrified me.
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: TimTheVillain on March 06, 2011, 09:57:16 AM
John Burridge by a mile.
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: asgpaul on March 06, 2011, 10:00:19 AM
Bosnich was great till ball went to feet, he was unlucky in so much as the back pass rule came into play during his tenure, but he was a superb shot stopper.  Would have to vote Jimmy Rimmer overall though.
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: eastie on March 06, 2011, 10:12:24 AM
Bosnich just shades it ahead of rimmer for me.
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: Jimbo on March 06, 2011, 10:14:09 AM
Rimmer, Spink or Bosnich - all fine 'keepers.
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Post by: darren woolley on March 06, 2011, 10:14:14 AM
I would go with Bosnich liked him between the sticks just hope we find a top notch keeper in the summer.
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: WikiVilla on March 06, 2011, 10:18:26 AM
Jimmy Rimmer
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Post by: ozzjim on March 06, 2011, 10:38:52 AM
I think it would be a toss between James and Bosnich for me. James was more prone to an error but was very good for his defenders.
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: Ian. on March 06, 2011, 11:06:30 AM
James from about 3, 4 yeas ago. For a time in his Portsmouth days he was brilliant. For a non Villa connection it would have to be Schmichael.

Bloody hell, I must have removed him from my memory, I forgot he played for us!
I would pick him from his Utd days though not his time with us.
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Post by: philthebar on March 06, 2011, 11:58:07 AM
Has to be Bosnich - commanded the area, great shotstopper and good communicator with the defense.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on March 06, 2011, 12:32:46 PM
Sam Hardy was good apparently.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on March 06, 2011, 01:05:17 PM
Rimmer for week-in, week-out consistency.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 06, 2011, 02:26:03 PM
Bosnich was probably the most talented, but prone to moments of madness, as well as a tendency to come charging out of his box and do a star jump in front of an attacker if there was a break on. As well as a complete inability to kick the ball.

Rimmer was less spectacular but more consistent, and less insane. Plus it would be amusing to see the faces of todays groundskeepers as he kicks up penalty areas when marking where his posts are. So Rimmer for me.
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: Holtenderinthesky on March 06, 2011, 03:56:42 PM
I'd go with Bozzie or James.   The latter we should've kept and could still possibly do better than our current incumbent.
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: The Left Side on March 06, 2011, 06:45:15 PM
Rimmer, Bosnich, James or Spink... Jimmy just been bozzie for his kicking.
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: DeKuip on March 06, 2011, 08:10:25 PM
Jimmy Rimmer has been our best in my time, without a doubt. Spink wasn't as good as people seem to be remembering, although brilliant in Rotterdam I'm not so sure he ever became a top keeper.
Bozzie is the only keeper I can think of who left us for one of the tops sides, but he flopped at that level. Should have stayed here.
I also think in ten years time we'll look back on Friedal as being one of our better keepers as well.

When I started watching, and standing right behind the goal, I used to worship Colin Withers. I was too young to really appreciate whether he was any good or not (and in hindsight he probably wasnt too hot), but he used to pull off some spectacular saves. The sort of saves that really used to hurt when I tried in the road outside our house.
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Post by: TheSandman on March 06, 2011, 08:13:26 PM
Aussie Bozzie please
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Post by: Deano's Mullet on March 06, 2011, 08:42:58 PM
Bosnich although his kicking was poor as mentioned. His display at Sunderland in the League Cup was dazzling amongst others and i particularly remember fantastic saves from Gavin Peacock of Chelsea and a Coventry forward (Moldovan?) in the FA Cup match they won at Villa Park.

Spinksy wasnt very good at coming off his line but a very good shot stopper.

David James arguably was the most consistent keeper we've had in recent years, the one big mistake he made however coming in the FA Cup Final.
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: Lobsterboy on March 06, 2011, 08:52:14 PM
Jimmy Rimmer for me every single time.

Spinksy was a great servant rather than a great goalkeeper and I can't have James or Bosnich as one couldn't catch a cross and the other couldn't kick a ball...

Schmeicel probably the biggest disappointment as probably the only goalkeeper signing I have ever genuinely got excited about!
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: Louzie0 on March 06, 2011, 08:53:06 PM
Big Jim Cumbes for me and Bosnich for the thrills
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: TopDeck113 on March 06, 2011, 09:10:00 PM
Spink?  One of the best shot-stoppers I've seen in net for the Villa, but was all at sea if he ever had to venture out of the six yard box.

Bosnich?  Outstanding athlete and certainly the best shot-stopper I've seen. Penalty conceded? No problem, we've got Bozzie in goal. However, since a keeper's role nowadays depends on their ability to play the ball with his feet, his kicking was a liability.

James?  Great all-rounder, but prone to catastrophic lapses in concentration.  It takes something to lose two FA Cup finals for two different clubs through your inability to hold on to a cross. 

So I'd go for Rimmer.  Great command of his area and constantly keeping those in front of him in order.  I can recall being quite far back on the Holte and hearing him bellowing at our defence from the Witton End goal.  If you can organise your defenders, you don't have to be the greatest keeper.
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: the-farmer on March 06, 2011, 09:42:35 PM
Spink, for poking his tongue into his cheek

I remember Rimmer getting chipped on several occasions, coming too far off his line at inappropriate times

followed by Bosnich for his Adolph salute to the Spurs fans  ;D

Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 06, 2011, 09:56:47 PM
Colin Withers, Jimmy Rimmer, Jim Cumbes for me.

Before my time, but how about a mention for Nigel Sims ? (1957 and all that).
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: DeKuip on March 07, 2011, 12:16:08 AM
Big Jim Cumbes for me and Bosnich for the thrills
I can't think of Jim Cumbes without visions of Antwerp away flashing through my head. He never played for us again after that nightmare.
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 07, 2011, 04:33:20 AM
If you're in trouble he will save the day
He's brave and he's fearless come what may
Without him the Villa would go astray
He's Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy Rimmer

Without him life would be much grimmer
He's handsome, trim, and no-one slimmer
He will never need a zimmer
He's Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy Rimmer

More reliable than a garden trimmer
He's never been mistaken for Yul Brynner
He's not bald, and his head doesn't glimmer

Master of the wit and the repartee
His command of penalty areas is uncanny
How come he's such a genius? Don't ask me!
He's Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy Rimmer

He's also a fantastic swimmer
And if you play your cards right
Then he just might come round for dinner
He's Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy Rimmer
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: JD on March 07, 2011, 04:56:40 AM
If you're in trouble he will save the day
He's brave and he's fearless come what may
Without him the Villa would go astray
He's Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy Rimmer

Without him life would be much grimmer
He's handsome, trim, and no-one slimmer
He will never need a zimmer
He's Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy Rimmer

More reliable than a garden trimmer
He's never been mistaken for Yul Brynner
He's not bald, and his head doesn't glimmer

Master of the wit and the repartee
His command of penalty areas is uncanny
How come he's such a genius? Don't ask me!
He's Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy Rimmer

He's also a fantastic swimmer
And if you play your cards right
Then he just might come round for dinner
He's Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy Rimmer

That's brilliant. Without a shadow of doubt, I would pick Jimmy Rimmer. 
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 07, 2011, 10:12:01 AM
Big Jim Cumbes for me and Bosnich for the thrills
I can't think of Jim Cumbes without visions of Antwerp away flashing through my head. He never played for us again after that nightmare.

Our first ever adventure into Europe and a great Villa following in Belgium, we were really excited and in the big time now ready to conquer Europe.
4-0 down by half time wasnt it ? 
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: UsualSuspect on March 07, 2011, 11:26:25 AM
Spink for me

10 years of consistency
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: cratch on March 07, 2011, 11:36:33 PM
Les Sealey. Never a dull moment
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Post by: pooligan on May 28, 2011, 04:38:59 PM
Jimmy Rimmer for me just in front of Bosnich and Withers.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on May 28, 2011, 04:43:37 PM
Throughout history we've, according to those who know, had very few world-class keepers, but a lot of very good ones. Sam Hardy, Nigel Sims and Jimmy Rimmer come into the former category.
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Post by: adrenachrome on May 28, 2011, 06:00:16 PM
Jimmy Rimmer for me just in front of Bosnich and Withers.

Colin Withers was my first goalkeeping hero, and it seemed to me that he and Slogger kept us in many of the earliest games I attended.
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on May 28, 2011, 10:09:16 PM
Bozzie is best goalkeeper I have seen for Villa apart from his feet. Victor Valdes of Barcelona remind me of him.
Title: Keeper
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 29, 2011, 12:58:58 AM
It would take a very harsh judge not to class Sam Hardy as "World class" in an era when only England and Scotland players could realistically use that tag. Our best ever goalkeeper in my opinion.
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: usav on May 29, 2011, 05:36:35 PM
Friedel has to be up there for consistency.   Best I have seen is Bosnich, excellent keeper, didn't matter that his kicking was so shite, gave us something to laugh at.

Spink was terrible on crosses, another great shot stopper though.  I don't remember Rimmer being anything but solid....but I was too young to remember any finer details.
Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: E I Adio on May 29, 2011, 06:15:00 PM
Colin Withers was my first goalkeeping hero, and it seemed to me that he and Slogger kept us in many of the earliest games I attended.

Both heroes of my youth, Withers is often wrongly overlooked when the topic of great goalies arises. Perhaps because we were firmly in the doldrums in the period when he played and as you say, the truth is we'd have been up shit creek without a paddle if it hadn't been for those two.

Was lucky enough to see Nigel Sims play and he was also a great goalie, as was Jimmy Rimmer of course.

Title: Re: Which Keeper
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on May 30, 2011, 10:29:16 AM
Rimmer is the best keeper I've seen in a Villa shirt in over 40 years of watching Villa.
Nigel Spink is still my favourite Villa keeper though. His performance on 26/05/82 was something most of us can only dream about.
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Post by: The Left Side on May 30, 2011, 08:59:38 PM
Spinky for me, 1982 was just the best performance especially under the circumstances and I know we rode our luck. Then as I worked my way up the Holte he was always there performing well, even in the darker years.
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Post by: willywombat on May 31, 2011, 08:44:54 AM
Rimmer ahead of Bossie for me with an honourable mention for Spinksy.
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Post by: martin o`who?? on June 13, 2011, 07:25:00 PM
I`d say Bozzie if it wasnt for the way he dumped on us to go to Man U, so i`ll have to say Jimmy Rimmer, definitely Arsenals loss and our gain, pity he didnt stay on the pitch in Rotterdam, he deserved it so much, a total star.
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Post by: curiousorange on June 13, 2011, 10:46:50 PM
Bozzie.
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Post by: Classof13 on June 14, 2011, 06:37:12 AM
Bosnich for me, amazing keeper & great character too shame what happened to
His career.
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Post by: Witton Warrior on June 14, 2011, 07:07:45 PM
Bozzie for his luck and Jimmy Rimmer for leadership
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Post by: Holte L2 on June 24, 2011, 01:36:24 PM
Bozzie
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Post by: garyshawsknee on June 24, 2011, 01:45:22 PM
Bosnich. He could make saves that most keepers couldnt dream of. I was at a game in the mid 90s at West Ham,and he slipped kicking a back pass,was on his arse,but still reached out an arm and saved a shot from Lee Chapman. I was in the West Ham end at the time,and even they applauded it.

Shame how his careerened,as he had the tools to be the very best,even better than Schmeichal.
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Post by: noodles_ on June 24, 2011, 01:53:31 PM
Yup Bosnich was fantastic.
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Post by: Damo70 on June 24, 2011, 02:22:43 PM
Rimmer was a great keeper but for a while in the nineties I genuinely believe Bosnich was on his way to being the best in the world. When his problems came to light around 2002 I remembered a conversation I had in Tenerife in the mid nineties. I was wearing my Villa shirt and this guy who reckoned he'd owned clubs in Manchester for years told me our keeper had a little problem and had done since he was a youngster at United.
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