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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: peter w on March 01, 2011, 05:43:48 PM

Title: Erm, not Sure
Post by: peter w on March 01, 2011, 05:43:48 PM
So let's imagine you've just landed yourself with £10m. Which club would you invest in? You've taken care of your family and whatever else you want the money for and have 10m left so this is for those who want to invest in a club.

Would you go to the bottom of the pyramid and build up a club? And a ground gert some decent players in and try and work your way up?

I've always fancied pumping in a couple of million to a Shrewsbury, a Hereford, Lincoln city maybe. It would have to be a midlands club. But now I'd pay off some clubs tax bills and pump some money into maybe Accrington or Stockport. I wouldn't expect to be able to bankroll the club so it would be just to clear debts and hopefully get the manager to buy one or two decent additions.

the only input I'd want is that I'd want and sit with the manager just to get his plan for the squad/team and how much money he thinks he'd need for the next level. Obviously wary of getting a martin O'Neill type. It may also be wise to put money into a club with a manager who seems good but just hasn't had a chance at a level with a little bit of money to spend.

So, who would you invest in? Why? And what would be the denouement?
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: jembob on March 01, 2011, 05:49:04 PM
£10M is nowhere near enough to really make a difference - I know it might be to Kidderminster Harriers though. If you are talking about an investment then a football club is a bad place to put money. If you can afford to lose money on a club, it should only be a team that you have a passion for so for me it would be Villa.
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: Chipsticks on March 01, 2011, 06:09:21 PM
Give about 5 Million to Plymouth to help them out. Then I'd probably donate it to a small local club; for me Stratford Town, I'd send them a nice 3 Million.

Then the remaining £2 million I'd probably just give to Villa in exchange for lowering ticket prices ;)
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: ExclDawg on March 01, 2011, 06:11:54 PM
I'd invest in Birmingham, then vote to liquidate the club.
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: Tezmond on March 01, 2011, 06:22:50 PM
Option 1: 10m probably not quite enough, but I'd be shrewd and follow Mandaric's nose and put cash into Wednesday. Huge potential if managed properly, proper ground etc. Mandaric has profitted wherever he's gone and flogged on at the right time (if being a hradnosed investor).

My option 2 would be to build a club up from the ground in South Brum - a good 8 miles from the other 3 clubs, 2 buses to get to and from their grounds too. Cute little ground plonked near to Longbridge station. Decent ticket prices to attract disaffected supporters / people unable/unwilling to pay £40 per pop.
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: Chris Jameson on March 01, 2011, 06:50:54 PM
Killinghall Nomads. I'd buy them the land needed for thir own ground, new kits, the works and then pay people handsomely to ritually humiliate ever single day the bullying arsehole that picked on my son.
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: wombat on March 01, 2011, 06:51:28 PM
Stourbridge Town FC.. Get the War Memorial Ground to to scratch (maybe shift the cricket club). Sort out the old bar that no longer has a roof. Then lead an attack on the conference! I'd also rib Gary Hackett about when he had an Arsenal esque carling cup error to gift me the winner in a game of 5-a-side a few years back!
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 01, 2011, 06:53:44 PM
Stourbridge Town FC.. Get the War Memorial Ground to to scratch (maybe shift the cricket club). Sort out the old bar that no longer has a roof. Then lead an attack on the conference! I'd also rib Gary Hackett about when he had an Arsenal esque carling cup error to gift me the winner in a game of 5-a-side a few years back!

A pedant writes:

Do they have any connection to Stourbridge FC?
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: TopDeck113 on March 01, 2011, 06:57:01 PM
Frankly, if I had any sort of money, the last place I'd invest it is in a football club.

The old adage that the way to become a millionaire football club owner is by starting off as a billionaire is all too true.
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: KevinGage on March 01, 2011, 07:25:30 PM
So let's imagine you've just landed yourself with £10m. Which club would you invest in? You've taken care of your family and whatever else you want the money for and have 10m left so this is for those who want to invest in a club.

Would you go to the bottom of the pyramid and build up a club? And a ground gert some decent players in and try and work your way up?

I've always fancied pumping in a couple of million to a Shrewsbury, a Hereford, Lincoln city maybe. It would have to be a midlands club. But now I'd pay off some clubs tax bills and pump some money into maybe Accrington or Stockport. I wouldn't expect to be able to bankroll the club so it would be just to clear debts and hopefully get the manager to buy one or two decent additions.

the only input I'd want is that I'd want and sit with the manager just to get his plan for the squad/team and how much money he thinks he'd need for the next level. Obviously wary of getting a martin O'Neill type. It may also be wise to put money into a club with a manager who seems good but just hasn't had a chance at a level with a little bit of money to spend.

So, who would you invest in? Why? And what would be the denouement?

An O'Neill-type might actually be a good choice for that level, a blinkered autocrat who gets average>below average players firing and motivated, and punching above their weight.  Tactics aren't so crucial that far down the ladder.  The man himself made his name dragging Wycombe through the divsions, let's not forget.

For me I'd split it, £5 million to Tamworth (maybe even Mile Oak if that's not to ambitious) and attempt to crack the lower divisions and £5 million to Sligo Rovers in Ireland, as I spend a good chunk of the year close to there. They've played in major European competitions, which is ridiculous when you consider the standard of LOI football + they've had some decent players over the years; Dixie Dean, Paul McGee, Colin Cameron and most recently Seamus Coleman. Ex Cameroon international Joseph N'do currently turns out for them.  Lawrie Sanchez and Steve Cotterill both had spells managing there mid 90's, and ex Wolves midfielder currently manages them. But we won't hold that against them.

The focus would be to keep on doing what they're doing now, focusing on youth and bringing young talented players through. The extra £ would go on sourcing talent from a wider area, ideally selling at profit to keep the thing ticking over.
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: LeeB on March 01, 2011, 08:16:11 PM
Erdington AFC of the Sutton & District League, who would suddenly find themselves playing in the brand new Stade De Holly Lane and probably Midland Comb.

The implimentation of my visionary training methods and club ethos would shake football to it's roots, the fairytale completed with promotion to the Football League via a Conference play off win in 2018-19 against Birmingham City.
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: usav on March 01, 2011, 08:22:51 PM
Before I read the thread I had no idea what this would be about, given the title.

I'm much wiser now.
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: Lambert and Payne on March 01, 2011, 08:24:43 PM
Id invest in my local team Evesham United. I spoke to their manager and he told me how difficult it was to attract anyone to their club cus they can't afford the wages like other teams in leagues below them! They also have a new ground nearly built but cant afford the rest of it. This and i used to play for the kids sides!
It would only need 2 mil to turn it into a much better club, the rest of the money id keep!
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: ChrissyPrice on March 01, 2011, 08:25:16 PM
Worcester City. Build them up to high conference/steady league 2 standard. Keep them at the present "atmospheric" ground and look surprised when the rest of the board suddenly decide to name a stand after me.
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on March 01, 2011, 08:36:59 PM
Erm

Im not sure, I think I'd like to start my own club, No idea where im gonna get a ground from either?

I'd manage in my own stuart Pearce Style kicking every football and generally shouting a lot :)
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: damon loves JT on March 01, 2011, 10:26:24 PM
I would turn Dulwich Hamlet into a football club again, rather than a long-term property speculation venture.
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: TheSandman on March 01, 2011, 10:31:00 PM
I'd not pick one club but would rather give it to clubs lower down the pyramid who are struggling financially to save them.

Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: Olneythelonely on March 01, 2011, 11:31:51 PM
Good idea for a thread, terrible title though.
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: UsualSuspect on March 02, 2011, 09:16:01 AM
Stourbridge Town FC.. Get the War Memorial Ground to to scratch (maybe shift the cricket club). Sort out the old bar that no longer has a roof. Then lead an attack on the conference! I'd also rib Gary Hackett about when he had an Arsenal esque carling cup error to gift me the winner in a game of 5-a-side a few years back!

Plus demolish the old war memorial club and biuld a decent one and bring the bowling green back

i've always had a soft spot for Dudley Town and it would be nice to see them play in Dudley again
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: darren woolley on March 02, 2011, 02:56:29 PM
I would invest in Bloxwich United because before they merged with Blakenall FC i used to play for Blakenall FC.
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 02, 2011, 03:35:30 PM
I'd bring back Bromsgrove Rovers. Gone but not forgotten.
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: duncan on March 02, 2011, 04:53:20 PM
Spearmint Rhino Ladies FC and the first thing I'd do is install the communal bath .....then invite the 'ladies'  to renegotiate contracts' ......
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: London Villan on March 02, 2011, 05:23:53 PM
I build a network of decent football facilities across Brum and sponsor a load of leagues from kids upwards. Obviously allowing Villa to pick which of the best players they wanted to take.
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: The Left Side on March 02, 2011, 05:42:10 PM
Spearmint Rhino Ladies FC and the first thing I'd do is install the communal bath .....then invite the 'ladies'  to renegotiate contracts' ......

Can I be your assistant manager?
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 02, 2011, 05:43:33 PM
Spearmint Rhino Ladies FC and the first thing I'd do is install the communal bath .....then invite the 'ladies'  to renegotiate contracts' ......

Can I be your assistant manager?

I want to do the Physio.
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: Linus on March 02, 2011, 06:51:34 PM
I'd spend it on Stony Stratford Town, helping them up the pyramid so Milton Keynes can have a proper football team.
Title: Re: Erm, not Sure
Post by: Mac on March 02, 2011, 08:00:19 PM
Not sure I'd want to give any of my money directly to a footballer.
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