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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: D.boy on February 09, 2011, 11:06:18 PM
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According to the Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/olympics/london2012/8314885/West-Ham-beat-Tottenham-to-win-Olympic-Stadium-battle.html)
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Shouldn't have gone to either but West Ham makes more sense than Spurs. Another reason to hope they go down. Welcome to the New Withdean Stadium...
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Wow, a free stadium. Mind you, with a running track there will be fuck all atmosphere, they may well be shooting themselves in the foot in the long run. Who will want to go and play for a club that plays in an athletics ground that's half empty every week?
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The Porn-moguls won't give a flying dildo about that - they're just happy to be cashing in on the sale of Upton Park.
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*Shrugs shoulders*
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The Porn-moguls won't give a flying dildo about that - they're just happy to be cashing in on the sale of Upton Park.
the whole reason they got involved with Spam
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It doesn't matter what club they are at, they have always a great big shiny new ground, paid for by someone else.
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IMO, Spurs plan to re-model the Olympic stadium and improve the existing Crystal Palace athletics venue makes far more sense than West Ham's plan.
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Looks like Daniel Levy's preferred business method of swooping in at the last minute to hijack somebody else's deal may have been rumbled
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IMO, Spurs plan to re-model the Olympic stadium and improve the existing Crystal Palace athletics venue makes far more sense than West Ham's plan.
aside from Levy you must be the only person on the planet who thinks that. Its an utterly bizarre plan? Crystal Palace is a nightmare to get to, for starters
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IMO, Spurs plan to re-model the Olympic stadium and improve the existing Crystal Palace athletics venue makes far more sense than West Ham's plan.
How can it make more sense to knock down one stadium, build two more and make sure at the same time that we never get another major sporting championships?
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It's a scandal that any private company can move into a building funded by public money without paying for it.
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I still reckon Leyton Orient will throw a spanner in the works and rightly so.
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Wow, a free stadium. Mind you, with a running track there will be fuck all atmosphere,
I like running tracks round stadia. Like in Rome, Old Wembley and Munich. Makes the games look like European Cup finals in the 70s!
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I like running tracks round stadia. Like in Rome, Old Wembley
Know what you mean. Although Wembley wasn't a running track
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Running track eh ?
plenty of room for Gabby to warm up when we play them in the cup next season ;)
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I would prefer West Ham to get it i just don't wan't the Spuds to get it it just wouldn't be right for them to get it.
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It's a scandal that any private company can move into a building funded by public money without paying for it.
It's not exactly free. They're converting it using £20m from the sale of Upton Park, borrowing £40m from the council, the other £35m is from the Olympic budget and was available to any bidder.
Something had to be done with the stadium and this way it. in theory, becomes an asset to the local community.
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I like running tracks round stadia. Like... Munich.
It was an awful place to watch football in; great big hopeless soup-bowl of a stadium, like watching far away ants.
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It's not exactly free. They're converting it using £20m from the sale of Upton Park, borrowing £40m from the council, the other £35m is from the Olympic budget and was available to any bidder.
Still not the £500m that it cost to build though. Plus all the work that's been done extending platforms at every DLR station, improving rail links etc.
West Ham havent paid a penny for this.
You only have to drive past the Olympic Village to see the scale of the work being done there. We're not talking about the City of Manchester Stadium here, it's more like an entire town being built from scratch.
Something stinks
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It'll be the best stadium in the second division.
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It's not exactly free. They're converting it using £20m from the sale of Upton Park, borrowing £40m from the council, the other £35m is from the Olympic budget and was available to any bidder.
Still not the £500m that it cost to build though. Plus all the work that's been done extending platforms at every DLR station, improving rail links etc.
West Ham havent paid a penny for this.
You only have to drive past the Olympic Village to see the scale of the work being done there. We're not talking about the City of Manchester Stadium here, it's more like an entire town being built from scratch.
Something stinks
So what would you do with it?
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I've not paid a huge amount of attention to this, but from the little I do know I have to (reluctantly) say that West Hams bid does seem a better all round package. The issue I have with it is the fucking smug faces we'll see off them and Brady - foot through the telly time!
From our perspective, Spurs have been a close rival up until this season and them getting the added revenue of an increased capacity for basically no outlay would be an unfair advantage, so it ultimately helps us.
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So what would you do with it?
I've no idea. But if we're spending that much money I would have expected this kind of decision to have been made long before the first brick was laid not 12 months before the Olympics actually start
Although I know what I wouldn't do with it - give it to a football club.
Sticks in my craw, knowing I'm paying extra council tax to give West Ham a new ground
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So what would you do with it?
I've no idea. But if we're spending that much money I would have expected this kind of decision to have been made long before the first brick was laid not 12 months before the Olympics actually start
Although I know what I wouldn't do with it - give it to a football club.
Sticks in my craw, knowing I'm paying extra council tax to give West Ham a new ground
My London knowledge isn't great, but why didn't they just total rebuild Crystal Palace and spend the difference improving the infrastructure and transport links around it? That way athletics has one top notch venue in the capital and football can fend for itself.
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My London knowledge isn't great, but why didn't they just total rebuild Crystal Palace and spend the difference improving the infrastructure and transport links around it? That way athletics has one top notch venue in the capital and football can fend for itself.
Because, when we go on about the media being London, London, London all the time, what they really mean is North London.
I don't know whether there is really the space for a transport overhaul in the area too.
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So what would you do with it?
I've no idea. But if we're spending that much money I would have expected this kind of decision to have been made long before the first brick was laid not 12 months before the Olympics actually start
Although I know what I wouldn't do with it - give it to a football club.
Sticks in my craw, knowing I'm paying extra council tax to give West Ham a new ground
I agree with you to an extent but the whole basis behind the Olympic bid was to leave a legacy, not just in terms of the stadium but also infrastructure in the area. Having a multi purpose stadium, which is what they are proposing, seems to me to be the best outcome for the locals.
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It may be proposed as a multi purpose stadium but athletics involves a lot more than running around a track.
I can't see a top flight club allowing the pitch to be used as a centre field through the summer when every other club treats theirs like a spoiled poodle.
There will be a few community events before Crystal Palace resumes it's role and West Ham only open the doors for football.
If there are to be any other uses they will commercial events such as concerts and corporate events. The local school pratting about with bibs, cones and lightweight shot-putts just won't happen.
The owners will then have a money making asset worth more than anything they have to borrow.
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Looks like the porn wankers got what they always wanted!
Gonna look stupid in the championship..
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I might be setting myself up for a load of stick now but I didn't agree with this country bidding for the olympics. I didn't agree in 2005 when they won the bid and I don't agree now.
Part of my thinking was the track record of Olympic games of massive budget overspends.
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They were able to knock Stratford flat because it is a shithole. To build an Olympic Village at Crystal Palace park would have annoyed the millionaires of SE19.
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They were able to knock Stratford flat because it is a shithole. To build an Olympic Village at Crystal Palace park would have annoyed the millionaires of SE19.
They could do with knocking bits of Stratford-upon-Avon flat too. It is also a shithole (cf. traffic).
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I might be setting myself up for a load of stick now but I didn't agree with this country bidding for the olympics. I didn't agree in 2005 when they won the bid and I don't agree now.
Part of my thinking was the track record of Olympic games of massive budget overspends.
I agree. And it's a City that bids for the Olympics...but I know what you mean.
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I heard Barry Hearn today going on about taking legal action against the FA and the premier league as there is a clause that no club can move into a 5 mile radius of an exisiting club - now i dont know the geography of that part of LOndon well but he think that Orient have a stone cold case - i am sure if it goes to court a quick hard cash pay off will keep the little man quiet in the face of the premiership team
the whole thing stinks
I agree with i was in favour of not getting the olympic games - waste of fucking money and all it will be is a job for the boys moneymen on the big contracts - just like the dome and wembley
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I think they should let West Ham have the swimming arena instead.
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Will W Ham own the stadium?
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I think they should let West Ham have the swimming arena instead.
They might go for that if they were allowed to put cameras in the ladies changing rooms.
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I might be setting myself up for a load of stick now but I didn't agree with this country bidding for the olympics. I didn't agree in 2005 when they won the bid and I don't agree now.
Part of my thinking was the track record of Olympic games of massive budget overspends.
I'm with you Chris. The whole thing is a massive waste of money as far as I'm concerned.
However, I have a major problem with the concept of the Olympics anyway. To me it seems a random set of events.
Also, money seems to me to end up being given to some sports and not others just because some are Olympic sports and some are not.
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I might be setting myself up for a load of stick now but I didn't agree with this country bidding for the olympics. I didn't agree in 2005 when they won the bid and I don't agree now.
Part of my thinking was the track record of Olympic games of massive budget overspends.
I'm with you Chris. The whole thing is a massive waste of money as far as I'm concerned.
However, I have a major problem with the concept of the Olympics anyway. To me it seems a random set of events.
Also, money seems to me to end up being given to some sports and not others just because some are Olympic sports and some are not.
I was dearly hoping that new sports to be included in the Olypics would be Darts, Crib and Underwater Dwarf Taunting.
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If West Ham get the stadium will they rent it? You buy west Ham with £100m debt and you get a £600m stadium thrown in for free?
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Just what west ham need as the enter the championship!
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Deluded thoughts of K.Brady.
Clicky (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/sunsport_columnists/3402516/Karren-Brady-reveals-her-vision-of-West-Hams-future-at-the-Olympic-Stadium.html)
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Some funny comments underneath Brady's fantasy
"THE day has arrived. Finally, we kick-off in the Olympic Stadium this afternoon and we are ready".... "
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"for our League 1 encounter with Hartlepool in front of 10,000 fans half a mile from the pitch in a stadium that hold 60k"
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Deluded thoughts of K.Brady.
Clicky (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/sunsport_columnists/3402516/Karren-Brady-reveals-her-vision-of-West-Hams-future-at-the-Olympic-Stadium.html)
She actually had me going until "Before kick-off at 3pm"
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I thought West Ham had financial issues?
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"The first lady of football"
Fuck off!
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"The first lady of football"
Fuck off!
God help the sport if she is.
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It's a scandal that any private company can move into a building funded by public money without paying for it.
It's not exactly free. They're converting it using £20m from the sale of Upton Park, borrowing £40m from the council, the other £35m is from the Olympic budget and was available to any bidder.
Something had to be done with the stadium and this way it. in theory, becomes an asset to the local community.
"In theory" being the operative phrase - I don't buy any of this Olympic Legacy stuff at all. In fact whenever anyone mentions 'legacy' or 'heritage' in relation to the olympics its probably safe to assume they're bullshitting in some way.
The real issue here isn't the decision now - 5 years ago they approved plans to build a stadium which they would then reduce afterwards. Now they've massively overspent, the brakes are on and the original plan has been shown up - unfortunately the only people making money in sport are the Premier League so they have no choice but get them on board.
As for the Leyton Orient question someone asked - they are the closest club to the site at around 2 miles.
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So W Ham are getting a 600m stadium for 60m then Chris?
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Lets face it, the porn barons have been desperate for someone else to subsidise a new stadium for them and now it looks like they will finally get their wish. I can't see it being full and the hammers fans will soon be moaning about being too far away from the pitch and will wish they had stayed at their current residence.
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Lets face it, the porn barons have been desperate for someone else to subsidise a new stadium for them and now it looks like they will finally get their wish. I can't see it being full and the hammers fans will soon be moaning about being too far away from the pitch and will wish they had stayed at their current residence.
I don't think it's possible to be too far away from West Ham
I live in East Dulwich and as far as I'm concerned that's still miles too close to the pitch
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Something stinks
Yeah, the whole thing stinks like Brady's flute.
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I give them 20years max and then they will be looking to have a new football only stadium with a much smaller capacity. Re Juventus.
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I give them 20years max and then they will be looking to have a new football only stadium with a much smaller capacity. Re Juventus.
Yep, and for a team of Juventus's size, the gates have been woeful for years. Think what West Ham will end up with.
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I'm with Alan Sugar on this
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympic_games/9393611.stm
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I thought West Ham had financial issues?
Yep,sales of dildo's aren't what they use to be.
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So W Ham are getting a 600m stadium for 60m then Chris?
So what would you do with it?
Something has to happen to it. We can debate all day about whether it should have been built. The fact is it has and this seems to me to be the least bad option.
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So W Ham are getting a 600m stadium for 60m then Chris?
So what would you do with it?
Something has to happen to it. We can debate all day about whether it should have been built. The fact is it has and this seems to me to be the least bad option.
They should at least offer it to The Orient for nothing! £5 adult and £2 kids tickets for the next ten years - be nice to see a club and fan base like Orient's benefit rather than the spammers and that cross eyed bint!
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I'm with Alan Sugar on this
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympic_games/9393611.stm
Can't watch videos at work - what's he said? And does it put him at cross purposes with Brady?
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I give them 20years max and then they will be looking to have a new football only stadium with a much smaller capacity. Re Juventus.
Indeed. It does strike me as odd that Roma and Juve, fed up with the running tracks ruining the atmosphere, are doing the literal opposite to what West Ham are doing.
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It does strike me as odd that Roma and Juve, fed up with the running tracks ruining the atmosphere, are doing the literal opposite to what West Ham are doing.
When you consider that they're both big clubs that know what they're doing, and who is running West Ham, then no not really!
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We can lose the "(apparently)" from the title now.
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It does strike me as odd that Roma and Juve, fed up with the running tracks ruining the atmosphere, are doing the literal opposite to what West Ham are doing.
When you consider that they're both big clubs that know what they're doing, and who is running West Ham, then no not really!
Well I wouldn't class Roma as 'well-run', but yes, next to Gollivan the outgoing Sensi family look like Randy.
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I am at the west ham press conference waiting for gold and sullivan to arrive. It is like passing a very difficult stool
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I am at the west ham press conference waiting for gold and sullivan to arrive. It is like passing a very difficult stool
I can't imagine many WHU fans being pleased about this. Where's Sendo when you need him?
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I am at the west ham press conference waiting for gold and sullivan to arrive. It is like passing a very difficult stool
Can you ask them "So what's it like to finally get the free stadium you've always dreamed about since you took over at Small Heath?"
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Ask them if they feel it was a step up from owning the second biggest team in the second city, to the second biggest team to wear claret and blue in the country?
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I am at the west ham press conference waiting for gold and sullivan to arrive. It is like passing a very difficult stool
I hope you're wearing a rather large blow up dildo on your head?
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Ask them if they feel it was a step up from owning the second biggest team in the second city, to the second biggest team to wear claret and blue in the country?
You're doing Marston Green Wanderers U12s Girls 2nd 11 a great disservice there.
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Ask them if they feel it was a step up from owning the second biggest team in the second city, to the second biggest team to wear claret and blue in the country?
Burnley?
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I thought West Ham had financial issues?
Yep,sales of dildo's aren't what they use to be.
Oh I don't know about that -
Ridgewell,
Gardner,
Davies,
Phillips.
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I am at the west ham press conference waiting for gold and sullivan to arrive. It is like passing a very difficult stool
Is that what you are sitting on ?
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I give them 20years max and then they will be looking to have a new football only stadium with a much smaller capacity. Re Juventus.
Indeed. It does strike me as odd that Roma and Juve, fed up with the running tracks ruining the atmosphere, are doing the literal opposite to what West Ham are doing.
Not odd at all.
Sullivan, Gold, subsidised new stadium. It's the fulfilment of a dream that started with all that unseemly begging when they were up here.
Personally, I think it'll be the end of West Ham. They'll get nowhere near filling a 60,000 stadium, and as mentioned, the running track will totally kill off the one thing they do have - atmosphere and a bit of tradition.
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My only concern with the whole thing is if West Ham are able to have the naming rights. It could give them some serious cash.
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I just shook Sullivan's hand. I hope you will forgive me. It was like grasping the penis of a drowned corpse. He explained that he has a weak wrist - no really - so insisted on a kind of soul brother overhand grip. I will never forget this day
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I just shook Sullivan's hand. I hope you will forgive me. It was like grasping the penis of a drowned corpse. He explained that he has a weak wrist - no really - so insisted on a kind of soul brother overhand grip. I will never forget this day
Dettol and a wire brush.
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I just shook Sullivan's hand. I hope you will forgive me.
I hope Megan Fox is lying in my bed waiting for me tonight, but that's not going to happen either.
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Does this mean West Ham will have won the World Cup and the Olympics?
Maybe Mr.Goat Head will buy himself a gold gong to go along with his FA Cup.
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I just shook Sullivan's hand. I hope you will forgive me. It was like grasping the penis of a drowned corpse. He explained that he has a weak wrist - no really - so insisted on a kind of soul brother overhand grip. I will never forget this day
127 hours. Do it now!
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Congrats to "West Gam" Gam? :o
From The Huffington Post
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/11/west-gam-2010-london-games-olympics-stadium_n_821817.html
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I am at the west ham press conference waiting for gold and sullivan to arrive. It is like passing a very difficult stool
I can't imagine many WHU fans being pleased about this. Where's Sendo when you need him?
I was in docklands with a couple of West Ham ST holders yesterday. They are delighted, reckon it will be "the making" of their club
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I just shook Sullivan's hand. I hope you will forgive me. It was like grasping the penis of a drowned corpse. He explained that he has a weak wrist - no really - so insisted on a kind of soul brother overhand grip. I will never forget this day
Did you grimace like a fox that just eaten shit off a wire brush?
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By rights, it should have gone to Orient, athough it would have been interesting to see it 7/8ths empty each week, jsut to stick two fingers up at ol' 'appy 'arry and the porn twins.
This new stadium will now kill the club.
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I suppose it was always destined to go to 'West Ham United' as it is an anagram of 'The New Stadium'
(and no I didn't work it out - I have got better things to do with my time!)
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I am at the west ham press conference waiting for gold and sullivan to arrive. It is like passing a very difficult stool
What do you Damon?
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I am at the west ham press conference waiting for gold and sullivan to arrive. It is like passing a very difficult stool
What do you Damon?
Gets his mug on the telly during numerous news reports whilst wearing a villa tie.
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If I was a West Ham fan I'd be delighted with this.
Not only because my club would have a shiny new stadium, but also because it probably marks the beginning of the end of the Gold/Sullivan/ Brady axis of evil. I'm sure I read at the time of their numerous attempts to get a free 60k casino/pleasuredome at Small Heath that their business plan was basically to do what the owners at Man City did in 2002, get a free stadium to increase the profitability of their asset and move it on.
They were never going to succeed at a two bob outfit like Small Heath, but you have to have some degree of respect for their persistence.
Only fly in the ointment I can see is that one of the few things the 'ammers have going for them is the atmosphere they can create at a tight ground like the Boleyn. Take that away, or space it out in a vast stadium and they might be even less effective as a team, if that's at all possible.
Having a nice shiny Olympic stadium hasn't done much to improve the profile of Hertha Berlin, for example.
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Having a nice shiny Olympic stadium hasn't done much to improve the profile of Hertha Berlin, for example.
Another club waiting to move out.
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Having a nice shiny Olympic stadium hasn't done much to improve the profile of Hertha Berlin, for example.
Another club waiting to move out.
Or Espanol. Who have now moved on.
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My only concern with the whole thing is if West Ham are able to have the naming rights. It could give them some serious cash.
That is a very good point.Man Citeh couldn't change the name of their stadium for 10 years,after an agreement with the council.
With the council stumping up an interest free loan,I would guess it would be the same,but not sure.
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I just shook Sullivan's hand. I hope you will forgive me. It was like grasping the penis of a drowned corpse. He explained that he has a weak wrist - no really - so insisted on a kind of soul brother overhand grip. I will never forget this day
Oh Damon, was that really necessary? You're a tallish bloke, couldn't you have pretended you didn't see him?
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If I was a West Ham fan I'd be delighted with this.
Not only because my club would have a shiny new stadium, but also because it probably marks the beginning of the end of the Gold/Sullivan/ Brady axis of evil. I'm sure I read at the time of their numerous attempts to get a free 60k casino/pleasuredome at Small Heath that their business plan was basically to do what the owners at Man City did in 2002, get a free stadium to increase the profitability of their asset and move it on.
They were never going to succeed at a two bob outfit like Small Heath, but you have to have some degree of respect for their persistence.
Only fly in the ointment I can see is that one of the few things the 'ammers have going for them is the atmosphere they can create at a tight ground like the Boleyn. Take that away, or space it out in a vast stadium and they might be even less effective as a team, if that's at all possible.
Having a nice shiny Olympic stadium hasn't done much to improve the profile of Hertha Berlin, for example.
I think the £20mil they are about to bank will lighten the blow
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Him on the news just had a nice little dig. "Some people will be happy," indeed.
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I still reckon Leyton Orient will throw a spanner in the works and rightly so.
Rightly f*&king so Maz. My local team (from where I come from) and just down the road from Stratford. The stadium should be given to the Mighty O's who are the local team, not the bas&*rd Kit Stealers.
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I still reckon Leyton Orient will throw a spanner in the works and rightly so.
Rightly f*&king so Maz. My local team (from where I come from) and just down the road from Stratford. The stadium should be given to the Mighty O's who are the local team, not the bas&*rd Kit Stealers.
All very nice and romantic but in reality how could Orient afford to run a stadium like that? They'd be broke in 3 months.
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Something for Sullivan et al to mortgage West Ham against.
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How sad that our Olypic stadium (and i say ours because it is being paid for with tax payers money) is handed over to these people whilst they are able to walk away with millions from the sale and development of Upton Park, and then more tax payers money given to them to develope the stadium, and those mandarins in The People Republic of Newham laughing all the way to the bank, this is the sort of country we live in.
I have nothing against West Ham a lot of thier supporters are real supporters but most of them dont have a clue whats going on here.
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I would rather the stadium is used after the olympics than not. Rather West Ham than Spurs - who would have to move from their home patch in North London to East London - WHAT?? That's like saying that the Baggies move to a lovely new stadium called Villa Park.
Newham and West Ham (or anybody taking it over) have to put in a lot of reddies to make it work, apparently. And that's the bit I don't get. I've read that any new owners have to put in toilets and refreshments. Don't Olympic crowds need those facilities? Wouldn't they be there already? (I'm already rethinking my application for Olympic tickets if not.)
Although I prefer the West Ham bid to that of the North London Massive, what about Leyton Orient?
Actuallly, what about them? Cos if they move they lose the current distinction on football trivia quizzes about having the biggest pitch. (square yardage)
Are they anywhere near launching a bid - never mind a legal objection?
Cannot help thinking that this is a situation which could have been sorted with the interested parties before now - and when the stadium was a twinkle in the eye of seb coe...
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I still reckon Leyton Orient will throw a spanner in the works and rightly so.
Rightly f*&king so Maz. My local team (from where I come from) and just down the road from Stratford. The stadium should be given to the Mighty O's who are the local team, not the bas&*rd Kit Stealers.
All very nice and romantic but in reality how could Orient afford to run a stadium like that? They'd be broke in 3 months.
I know that in all seriousness, but I just hope with the Kit Stealers moving to Leyton O's territory that it doesn't run them out of business.
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Sullivan let slip yesterday that the lease runs for 250 years. I find that astonishing. Effectively it's a freehold.
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Shiny new stadium or not, I'd be gutted if we ever left villa park, I still haven't got over the Trinity & Holte being ripped down
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Good luck to West Ham, they have a decent football club there, tarnished by their current owners.
A bitter Lord ( !) Alan Sugar is not happy about this - what's new !! ?
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I would rather the stadium is used after the olympics than not. Rather West Ham than Spurs - who would have to move from their home patch in North London to East London - WHAT?? That's like saying that the Baggies move to a lovely new stadium called Villa Park.
Newham and West Ham (or anybody taking it over) have to put in a lot of reddies to make it work, apparently. And that's the bit I don't get. I've read that any new owners have to put in toilets and refreshments. Don't Olympic crowds need those facilities? Wouldn't they be there already? (I'm already rethinking my application for Olympic tickets if not.)
Although I prefer the West Ham bid to that of the North London Massive, what about Leyton Orient?
Actuallly, what about them? Cos if they move they lose the current distinction on football trivia quizzes about having the biggest pitch. (square yardage)
Are they anywhere near launching a bid - never mind a legal objection?
Cannot help thinking that this is a situation which could have been sorted with the interested parties before now - and when the stadium was a twinkle in the eye of seb coe...
I don't think it would have been right for a club like Leyton Orient taking on sole responsibility for the place. But in principle, I wouldn't see an issue with a groundshare, if Hearn is so desperate to play there. Particularly with Essex County Cricket Club due to play there in the summer.
Pitch might take a battering, but it would be hard to argue that the needs of the sporting community weren't being met if they all get a look in. I think Hearn is more interested in a pay-off though. If there is any truth to the 5 mile radius thing, I expect he is just looking to exploit that financially, rather than have his side play in a venue at least four sizes too small for them.