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Title: Brad Guzan
Post by: Ad@m on February 06, 2011, 11:50:00 AM
Just noticed Hull are doing pretty well - 1 defeat in the league since the start of November - and wondered how Brad was getting on up there.

Looking through a few Hull forums it seems the general consensus is that he's doing OK, he's better than Boaz Myhill (thank God!) but not as good as Arsenal's 3rd choice keeper, Vito Mannone, who they had on loan before.  The fans seem to want to keep Brad as a No.2.  There's also rumour on there that Brad wants out of the Villa (he's sick of never playing) and asked the club to let him leave rather than us putting him out on loan to get some experience.

Bit of a shame really as I had real hopes for him when he came over (I think he was the MLS's MVP the year before we signed him) but it seems he's not going to make the cut.

More importantly, Friedel's not going to last forever so I hope GH has his scouts out there finding someone else.  I can't think of any obvious choices out there...
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: eastie on February 06, 2011, 12:02:42 PM
Shay given and westwood come to mind, although we have a decent young keeper coming through who could maybe be our 2nd choice very soon- either way I don't think guzan will cut it at the highest level and would be happy if hull want him long term.
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: darren woolley on February 06, 2011, 12:26:50 PM
I think he will end up leaving and with big Brad getting on a bit we will invest in a new keeper in the summer maybe Given if he decides not to stay at City.
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: phantom limb on February 06, 2011, 12:32:42 PM
That League Cup game against Blackburn killed him, and I don't think MON ever picked him again after that. I wouldn't be surprised if we were interested in Westwood, which would free Guzan up to leave in the summer.
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: Matt C on February 06, 2011, 01:01:21 PM
Yep, think we've seen the last of Guzan at Villa and we'll be looking for two keepers in the summer.
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: sid cowans10 on February 06, 2011, 02:15:10 PM
My farther in law is a season ticket holder at the kc and went with him on tuesday and brad still looks very shakey and isnt the ideal replacement for us great at shot stopping (as we know ) but very suspect at crosses and back passes.Championship goalkeeper yes next villa goalkeeper NO!!!!!

Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: eamonn on February 06, 2011, 05:40:41 PM
What does evalast think?
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: brian green on February 06, 2011, 05:47:57 PM
Who is this great prospect at Peterborough we are supposed to be considering?
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: curiousorange on February 06, 2011, 05:49:51 PM
Who is this great prospect at Peterborough we are supposed to be considering?

Joe Lewis I believe. Been in an England squad but I don't know if he's any cop. Contemporary of Joe Hart's I think.
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: brian green on February 06, 2011, 05:53:46 PM
Some well informed mates of my son were raving about him on the way to the match yesterday.   Joe Lewis that's him.
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on February 06, 2011, 06:02:33 PM
If Guzan's not as good as Arsenal's third-choice keeper, then he's definitely not good enough for us.
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: Moorski on February 06, 2011, 06:21:32 PM
Guzan let in a poor goal for Hull yesterday again from a cross, he is not the answer to Friedels replacement by a long way.
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: Lobsterboy on February 06, 2011, 11:15:38 PM
He will always be fondly remembered for his contribution in getting us to the Carling Cup Final last season (especially the Sunderland game!) but is nowhere near good enough to be Aston Villa's first choice keeper.

Shay Given for me please in the summer; proven top flight international keeper and would be an improvement on Big Brad
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: UsualSuspect on February 07, 2011, 08:22:32 AM
Shay Given for me as well

Man City would probably sell to us
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 07, 2011, 08:34:15 AM
I said after the Blackburn semi that Guzan had trashed his chances of ever being our number one. Decent keeper but not quite good enough for where we intend to operate.
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: TimTheVillain on February 07, 2011, 08:56:13 AM
Shay Given for me as well

Man City would probably sell to us

Please.

Guzan isn't good enough - too much flapping and lacks of concentration.
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: UsualSuspect on February 07, 2011, 09:06:00 AM
given is I think 34 so at his peak and doesn't get a sniff because of joe hart who i think is overated.

I reckon city would sell as they dont see us as a direct threat
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: Simon Ward on February 07, 2011, 09:34:09 AM
Another vote for Given
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: Chris Smith on February 07, 2011, 09:53:14 AM
Given is a good keeper, although not that great on crosses, but I'd prefer us to go for somebody with a bit more shelf life.
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: Risso on February 07, 2011, 09:55:23 AM
Given is a good keeper, although not that great on crosses, but I'd prefer us to go for somebody with a bit more shelf life.

He's probably got 5 or 6 decent years in him, it's not often that you get players staying at clubs for longer than that these days.
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on February 07, 2011, 10:35:54 AM
Not being one eyed, but i'd really like us to sign Gordon Banks.
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: eastie on February 07, 2011, 10:47:17 AM
City have already told given he can go in the summer if he wishes , I would be more than happy with shay given as our keeper for the next few years, guzan is not good enough to be our 2nd choice .
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 07, 2011, 11:50:29 AM
I'd get Westwood in.
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: eastie on February 07, 2011, 12:10:27 PM
Given and Westwood !
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: Chris Smith on February 07, 2011, 03:46:44 PM
Given is a good keeper, although not that great on crosses, but I'd prefer us to go for somebody with a bit more shelf life.

He's probably got 5 or 6 decent years in him, it's not often that you get players staying at clubs for longer than that these days.

Or he might only have 1 or 2 decent years. Not many keepers go on as long as Fridel at the top level.
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: Moorski on February 07, 2011, 09:24:24 PM
Friedel will need to be replaced in the summer and not by Guzan - Samir Handanovic of Udinese would be a good option.
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: WikiVilla on February 07, 2011, 09:26:38 PM
I think he will end up leaving and with big Brad getting on a bit we will invest in a new keeper in the summer maybe Given if he decides not to stay at City.

Given is Arsenal bound
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: pmarachi on February 08, 2011, 01:43:16 AM
I would love to see Shay Given in a villa shirt...


...But I have a feeling a lot of fans want him in their shirt as well.
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: pmarachi on February 08, 2011, 01:44:19 AM
I think he will end up leaving and with big Brad getting on a bit we will invest in a new keeper in the summer maybe Given if he decides not to stay at City.

Given is Arsenal bound

This is all I hear about as well.
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: evalast1910 on February 09, 2011, 07:38:36 PM
What does evalast think?

Seen him twice, and same as I said to all Hull fans when they signed him a young keeper who if the other team doesn't bang in long balls for him to catch he will do fine!

A lot of my mates who are massive Hull fans think he is doing a good job, but I honestly don't think he will make it in the top end of the prem. Will be a championship/lower prem keeper or a number two.
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: Colhint on February 09, 2011, 10:11:39 PM
I just dont know, hes 14 years younger tham big brad. So I ask myself in 1997 did I think Bad Friedel was one of the best Goalies in the prem. this was the year after Savo scored a screamer at wembley.
 I didn't
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: fredm on February 10, 2011, 11:45:52 AM
If we are going for a keeper already playing in the Premiership, I would go for Paul Robinson.  IMO he is now back to how he was when he was genuinely Englands No.1 without the problems of going off on international duty.

Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: Hookeysmith on February 10, 2011, 12:14:46 PM
If we are going for a keeper already playing in the Premiership, I would go for Paul Robinson.  IMO he is now back to how he was when he was genuinely Englands No.1 without the problems of going off on international duty.


Excellent shout - feel he was really hard done by with the England thing
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: john e on February 10, 2011, 12:33:02 PM
Guzan made some mistakes,  so what ?
so has Friedel, Van Der Sar, Cech this season.

i saw Craig Gordon play a howler at Stoke, who play very similar to Blackburn at the weekend, he's supposed to be worth 15 mill, and no one is writing him of.

if the managment team can see something in training where they dont think they can improve him, then thats fair enough,

but we are to quick to dispose of him at a young age because he's made a few mistakes,
dont forget he's also played some great games for us to,
 he needs to play games and gian experience, thats the only way he will get better,
cant see how anyone can know yet whether he'l make it after a few flapping mistakes which you can see from time to time by any top class goalie
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: Ad@m on February 11, 2011, 02:03:42 PM
cant see how anyone can know yet whether he'l make it after a few flapping mistakes which you can see from time to time by any top class goalie

I'm more worried about the fact Hull fans don't think he's good enough to be their No. 1 after watching him week-in, week-out for a month!
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: l_mckay on February 11, 2011, 02:52:53 PM
 Either Given or Robinson would be great replacments for Brad,dont think Guzan is up to being first choice!
Title: Re: Brad Guzan
Post by: robinleper on February 11, 2011, 03:48:43 PM
I totally agree a Robinson and he will have a longer career now he has retired from international football.
Does anybody think that if Little Brad was given game time he would be become a better goalkeeper or just another Enkelmann.
I believe Tim Howard was a poor keeper when he signed for Everton but has done well over time
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