Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Lambert and Payne on February 03, 2011, 11:33:14 AM
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Dont know if anyone of you on facebook has seen this but i think its pathetic. The person making the group and the people joining it should be ashamed of themselves. We moan (rightly so) when we heard about the songs with Chris Priest being sung. Also when we played Blose away i seen someone infront of me with a Villa shirt having T. Andrews 96 on the back of his shirt.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/profile.php?id=100001939317964
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Dont know if anyone of you on facebook has seen this but i think its pathetic. The person making the group and the people joining it should be ashamed of themselves. We moan (rightly so) when we heard about the songs with Chris Priest being sung. Also when we played Blose away i seen someone infront of me with a Villa shirt having T. Andrews 96 on the back of his shirt.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/profile.php?id=100001939317964
I saw the same shirt at the home game as well, pathetic.
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Dont know if the links working, but the long and short of it is someones made a profile of her. And theres a lot of Villa fans on here bragging about it and saying how there delighted she's out
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We should get on there and hi-jack it.
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Sorry but would someone explain what this Tracy Andrews thing is all about ?
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I wouldn't even look at it. Small minded simpletons.
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I searched for groups, and there were 2.
This is one
here (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/home.php?sk=group_110796448986621)
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Sorry but would someone explain what this Tracy Andrews thing is all about ?
Tracey Andrews killed her boyfriend who was a Birmingham fan back in the 90's. Since then Villa have sung she's our friend and she kills noses
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I searched for groups, and there were 2.
This is one
here (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/home.php?sk=group_110796448986621)
Someones made a profile for her
Tracie Avfc Andrews
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Sorry but would someone explain what this Tracy Andrews thing is all about ?
Tracey Andrews killed her boyfriend who was a Birmingham fan back in the 90's. Since then Villa have sung she's our friend and she kills noses
Not all Villa fans, mind.
To the tune of 'London Bridge is falling down':
Tracey Andrews is our friend,
Is our friend,
Is our friend,
Tracey Andrews is our friend,
She kills Zulu's.
Bring her back to kill some more,
Kill some more,
Kill some more,
Bring her back to kill some more,
Tracey Andrews.
Some fuck-wits still sing it.
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Just report the account? bottom left hand corner. Pretty sure it would be dealt with that way.
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Just report the account? bottom left hand corner. Pretty sure it would be dealt with that way.
Yeah i have done and someone else i know has. Still the fact that someones sick enough to go to them lengths for a murderer makes me cringe, they should be ashamed...
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Killed her bluenose boyfriend, that's sad. If she'd killed a brummie wearing a red 'scum' or 'scouse' top then fair enough !
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Looks a bit bad when we call their fans knuckledraggers and we have so-called supporters who do this.
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Nearly as unintelligent as the knuckledragger who started to sing the Munich song on Tuesday night stood behind me along with his racist son who seems to think Nani comes from Pakistan. Pair of fuckwits. There's plenty of complete arseholes who support the Villa unfortunately but all part of life's rich tapestry.
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Dont know if the links working, but the long and short of it is someones made a profile of her. And theres a lot of Villa fans on here bragging about it and saying how there delighted she's out
Just because they are Villa fans it doesn't mean they aren't ******.
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Dont know if anyone of you on facebook has seen this but i think its pathetic. The person making the group and the people joining it should be ashamed of themselves. We moan (rightly so) when we heard about the songs with Chris Priest being sung. Also when we played Blose away i seen someone infront of me with a Villa shirt having T. Andrews 96 on the back of his shirt.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/profile.php?id=100001939317964
That guy was just in front of me, at one point he took it off, held it aloft and started jumping up and down, could'nt get my head round it personally
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Nearly as unintelligent as the knuckledragger who started to sing the Munich song on Tuesday night stood behind me along with his racist son who seems to think Nani comes from Pakistan. Pair of fuckwits. There's plenty of complete arseholes who support the Villa unfortunately but all part of life's rich tapestry.
I think considering the size of our support that over all we've got a great bunch, but I absolutely agree that we've got a few complete morons too
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You have to be pretty retarded to think that is amusing.
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Nearly as unintelligent as the knuckledragger who started to sing the Munich song on Tuesday night stood behind me along with his racist son who seems to think Nani comes from Pakistan. Pair of fuckwits. There's plenty of complete arseholes who support the Villa unfortunately but all part of life's rich tapestry.
I think considering the size of our support that over all we've got a great bunch, but I absolutely agree that we've got a few complete morons too
yeah agreed although a lot of the lower north stand were singing that song which makes me feel sick i will not join in any of those type of songs
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AV82EC - Slightly unrelated, but thank you for reminding me of the wonderful Dave Angel ;D
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very sad when it happened i didnt know the guy but my sister knew his ex wife and alot of his family arent just blues some are villa..
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There are times when living in a country where FB is banned makes complete sense
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Killed her bluenose boyfriend, that's sad. If she'd killed a brummie wearing a red 'scum' or 'scouse' top then fair enough !
Grow up.
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Killed her bluenose boyfriend, that's sad. If she'd killed a brummie wearing a red 'scum' or 'scouse' top then fair enough !
Grow up.
Think he was joking Dave.
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Killed her bluenose boyfriend, that's sad. If she'd killed a brummie wearing a red 'scum' or 'scouse' top then fair enough !
Grow up.
Think he was joking Dave.
it was stupid. There's nothing funny about it. Singing or even wishing death upon someone for their football allegiance isn't something to joke about.
It's a mindless few amongst our fans that do this and it's in poor taste even for football fans.
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Have also reported this site as a fake profile and have defriended this profile's and my mutual FB friend.
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Wonder who Tracey supports?
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I get so fucking embarrassed when that disgusting, chavvy "song" is shouted out by the Villa 'yoof'. It makes us look as bad as noses and is fuck all to do with our club, it's in very bad taste and it should be banned. On a side note, it does not get behind the players in any way either which is the actual point of singing at football matches. It's a disgrace.
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I hate FB and as for singing songs about murderers = disgraceful.
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I hate FB and as for singing songs about murderers = disgraceful.
Are we becoming a nation that likes to be offended? ;-)
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I hate FB and as for singing songs about murderers = disgraceful.
Are we becoming a nation that likes to be offended? ;-)
According to the Daily Mail we are. I'm bloody furious about it!
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I've seen the chap with T Andrews on his back a few times at away games and i just can't get my head around it. It's moronic. Mind you i hate it when i see our fans with SOTC on their tops as well. That probably annoys me even more, it's so bloody childish.
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Sorry to be pedantic, but it was Tracie Andrews and she is now called Tia Carter.
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I hate FB and as for singing songs about murderers = disgraceful.
Are we becoming a nation that likes to be offended? ;-)
"blows raspberry"
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Killed her bluenose boyfriend, that's sad. If she'd killed a brummie wearing a red 'scum' or 'scouse' top then fair enough !
Grow up.
I'll grow up if you'll grow a sence of humour.
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One of the ironies is that few would have had a clue that the fella she killed was a Blues fan.
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Reported profile.
It's just pathetic.
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I've reported it as well and deleted it. By deleting though, I now can't see the 'friends' who had 'liked' it. I wanted to get rid of them. None of them, when I looked before deleting the profile, were people I knew.
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Killed her bluenose boyfriend, that's sad. If she'd killed a brummie wearing a red 'scum' or 'scouse' top then fair enough !
Grow up.
I'll grow up if you'll grow a sence of humour.
Oh, it was a joke was it? Maybe you should introduce yourself to one of her victim's family and tell them they haven't got a 'sence (sic) of humour'.
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Reported profile.
It's just pathetic.
agreed, just a sad indictment of today's society
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Killed her bluenose boyfriend, that's sad. If she'd killed a brummie wearing a red 'scum' or 'scouse' top then fair enough !
Grow up.
I'll grow up if you'll grow a sence of humour.
Oh, it was a joke was it? Maybe you should introduce yourself to one of her victim's family and tell them they haven't got a 'sence (sic) of humour'.
Sorry if you misunderstood the jist of my post, didn't intend to make a joke about somebody being murdered. The point i was jokingly making was if I had the choice of giving life or death to either of 2 lesser evils then the bluenose would be spared rather than a brummie glory hunter.
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Didn't the pair of them used to knock the shit out of each other on a regular basis? I reckon that if she hadn't tried to blag the road rage story and made more of their violent relationship instead she'd have got two years for manslaughter.
I remember when we had a thread on here there were plenty of posters who thought that woman-beaters deserved everything they got.
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very sad when it happened i didnt know the guy but my sister knew his ex wife and alot of his family arent just blues some are villa..
Fucking hell - when you put it like that it really hits home that murder is a bad thing.
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I remember getting into a heated argument with someone I worked with about the song Road Rage by Catatonia. I didn't know it but she was related to Lee and the family were looking to get the song banned because they said it glorified the murder.
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I remember getting into a heated argument with someone I worked with about the song Road Rage by Catatonia. I didn't know it but she was related to Lee and the family were looking to get the song banned because they said it glorified the murder.
As much as I am definately not in favour of disrespecting the death of a man, there are so many tragic things that happen worldwide, not just in this country. To attempt to ban a song is absolutely crazy. May be losing your mind.
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The song is crass but then again most of Villa's songs are inane and lack any wit or charm.
One point though is I would gladly kick shit out of any bloke who hits a woman. Absolutely no excuse for it no matter what the provocation. if that guy had beaten her first then she should of got a medal not a prison sentence.
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That's right, there are never - ever - EVER - any circumstances under which death is not an appropriate penalty for a man who touches a woman.
There are literally no circumstances, no matter how easy it might appear to be to think of some, under which even so much as a gentle rebuke would be permissable. I'm glad that fucking ****** is dead.
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My ex used to work with his Mum and I also loosely knew a lot of his social circle at the time. It seems from what I heard that the violence was pretty one-sided and she was known as a bit of a nut-case. I take it she's out now then?
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I always find that this subject does seem to bring the worst out of the Villa fans.
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The song is crass but then again most of Villa's songs are inane and lack any wit or charm.
One point though is I would gladly kick shit out of any bloke who hits a woman. Absolutely no excuse for it no matter what the provocation. if that guy had beaten her first then she should of got a medal not a prison sentence.
How do you feel towards women that hit men?
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The song is crass but then again most of Villa's songs are inane and lack any wit or charm.
You're watching the wrong sport or living 60 years too late if you're looking for "charm" from a football chant. It's noise made to encourage or support your team or have a go at the opposition, it doesn't need to be "charming".
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Wasn't the song originally sung in the 60s/70s about a criminal who had shot police? Fictionalised in the Jake Arnott novel "He Kills Coppers".
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Wasn't the song originally sung in the 60s/70s about a criminal who had shot police? Fictionalised in the Jake Arnott novel "He Kills Coppers".
Sounds plausible.
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Wasn't the song originally sung in the 60s/70s about a criminal who had shot police? Fictionalised in the Jake Arnott novel "He Kills Coppers".
Sounds plausible.
The Harry Roberts song. Used to hear it down the Villa as well until around the early 90s. Not especially pleasant either, no matter how unreasonable the WMP were back then, before they sensibly decided to take a lower profile at most games.
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Wasn't the song originally sung in the 60s/70s about a criminal who had shot police? Fictionalised in the Jake Arnott novel "He Kills Coppers".
YepWasn't the song originally sung in the 60s/70s about a criminal who had shot police? Fictionalised in the Jake Arnott novel "He Kills Coppers".
Sounds plausible.
The Harry Roberts song. Used to hear it down the Villa as well until around the early 90s. Not especially pleasant either, no matter how unreasonable the WMP were back then, before they sensibly decided to take a lower profile at most games.
Yes, used to here it a lot whenever they wanted to wind up the coppers, particularly late 70s.
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I remember getting into a heated argument with someone I worked with about the song Road Rage by Catatonia.
I heard about that, it was all over the front page.
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Wasn't the song originally sung in the 60s/70s about a criminal who had shot police? Fictionalised in the Jake Arnott novel "He Kills Coppers".
Harry Roberts. Originally a Millwall song.
You still see the ofdd bit of graffiti on South East London walls making reference to him.
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Wasn't the song originally sung in the 60s/70s about a criminal who had shot police? Fictionalised in the Jake Arnott novel "He Kills Coppers".
Leeds still sing it. Think i seen one video a few months back of a child being filmed singing it by his dad!
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Sound slike a right charmer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Roberts_(murderer) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Roberts_(murderer))
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You must know Loughbrough Junction/cold harbour lane, SR?
this was painted windows there for years - my train used to go past it each morning
http://www.urban75.org/brixton/photos/images/brix006.jpg
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You must know Loughbrough Junction/cold harbour lane, SR?
this was painted windows there for years - my train used to go past it each morning
http://www.urban75.org/brixton/photos/images/brix006.jpg
That picture does ring a few bells in my memory.
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[How do you feel towards women that hit men?
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No feelings about it all.
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[How do you feel towards women that hit men?
No feelings about it all.
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Weird.
Violence is violence whoever the perpetrator is.
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That's right, there are never - ever - EVER - any circumstances under which death is not an appropriate penalty for a man who touches a woman.
Hyperbole much?
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weird.
Violence is violence whoever the perpetrator is.
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violence between men is natural and if you dont admit to ever having enjoyed a punch up then that seems weird to me.
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Wasn't the song originally sung in the 60s/70s about a criminal who had shot police? Fictionalised in the Jake Arnott novel "He Kills Coppers".
Sounds plausible.
The Harry Roberts song. Used to hear it down the Villa as well until around the early 90s. Not especially pleasant either, no matter how unreasonable the WMP were back then, before they sensibly decided to take a lower profile at most games.
They still sing Harry Roberts at Newcastle. In fact there was something in the papers recently about it because the muppets have just changed the words to refer to Raul Moat. Not surprisingly the family of the now blind PC have taken offence.
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[How do you feel towards women that hit men?
No feelings about it all.
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It's ignored, that's how the world is these days......
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weird.
Violence is violence whoever the perpetrator is.
violence between men is natural and if you dont admit to ever having enjoyed a punch up then that seems weird to me.
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Count me in as a weirdo then!
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weird.
Violence is violence whoever the perpetrator is.
violence between men is natural and if you dont admit to ever having enjoyed a punch up then that seems weird to me.
Count me in as a weirdo then!
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I've not had a 'a bit of a punch up' since I was about seven years old.
I thought that was pretty normal for most people.
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Whenever I hear even a minority of our support singing about this woman it makes me want
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Gallows humour such as 'let's pretend we've scored a goal' is one thing but to glorify in someone's death
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That's right, there are never - ever - EVER - any circumstances under which death is not an appropriate penalty for a man who touches a woman.
Hyperbole much?
Think he's being sarcastic Dave.
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[How do you feel towards women that hit men?
No feelings about it all.
Weird.
Violence is violence whoever the perpetrator is.
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Quite right.
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That's right, there are never - ever - EVER - any circumstances under which death is not an appropriate penalty for a man who touches a woman.
Hyperbole much?
Think he's being sarcastic Dave.
*smacks forehead*
Apologies.