Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on February 01, 2011, 01:40:30 AM
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Ah yes. It really wouldn't be a proper football season without those champions of the completely ridiculous cheering us all up with their day to day events. The new home of our very own plonker Stephen Ireland is set to explode once again. If selling their beloved Andy Carroll wasn't enough, the following revelation by the departed Carroll is sure to see several thousand naked fat bastards burning effigies of another fat bastard:
The England striker said that he had been "pushed out the door" by Ashley whose chairman Derek Llambias negotiated a club record fee for the 22-year-old. Carroll, currently injured, was flown to Liverpool by private jet. The replacement for Fernando Torres, sold to Chelsea for a British transfer record of £50m, Carroll texted a fans' website to express his disgust at his former club.
Carroll, whose fee broke the record paid for a British player, said: "I'm gutted to be leaving my hometown club, I was told to go. I didn't want to leave that's why I signed a five-year deal [with Newcastle in October]. I was pushed out of the door."
Hope you enjoy your stay in the jungle Stephen. You'll find out very quickly that being at Villa wasn't so bad after all.
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Here you go:
http://www.fansonline.net/newcastleunited/article.php?id=599
It's going to be fun up there. *snigger*
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Pushed out the door, pausing only to sign a written transfer request...
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Pushed out the door, pausing only to sign a written transfer request...
Dont be stupid someone must have wrote it for him and he just put his mark on it - probably with his huge forehead
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Well from those texts it looks as though he didn't sign a transfer request.
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Expect the shit to hit the fan later today. Good times.
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Ashley must be a Sunderland fan. Is there any doubt left? What else can he do except turn St.James' into a shopping centre?
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Andy Carrol said:
'Mate, mate, mate, mate...'
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Not exactly what liverpools fans would want to here from their new record signing , didn't want to go , pushed out the door , similar to Stephen Ireland joining us maybe?
Carroll has always said he loved newcastle and wanted to always stay and I believe Ashley has forced him out- Ashley wants the money and I'd be surprised if pardew sees anywhere near half the cash to spend-where will the goals come from now?
They are 2 points above us and along with Blackpool I think they will really struggle to survive now.
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The England striker said that he had been "pushed out the door" by Ashley whose chairman Derek Llambias negotiated a club record fee for the 22-year-old. Carroll, currently injured, was flown to Liverpool by private jet. The replacement for Fernando Torres, sold to Chelsea for a British transfer record of £50m, Carroll texted a fans' website to express his disgust at his former club.
Carroll, whose fee broke the record paid for a British player, said: "I'm gutted to be leaving my hometown club, I was told to go. I didn't want to leave that's why I signed a five-year deal [with Newcastle in October]. I was pushed out of the door."
That flight must have took all of 5 minutes.
With all the buzzing of footballers around the country in helicopters and planes it's a wonder there wasn't a mid air collision.
I think Ashley did the right thing. £35 m for what is basically a novice striker is brilliant business.
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If that is true then it is sensational. The fans of 91 league clubs all love Mike Ashley apart from the ones at the club he is at. Marvellous.
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Two points: One, he's bound to say something to soften his departure, and Ashley is the major-league hobby horse in carToon land. So Carroll gets his glittering, big-money move without his family's houses being torched.
The other point: he is this era's Duncan Ferguson - a big bruiser with a temperament which will lead him into problems.
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Ashley has pissed Newcastle fans off many times before, selling the stars and not investing the monety on players is nothing new to him , I said in the transfer thread at the time he would want Carroll to request a move to divert the flak.
No replacement lined up at all, how much will pardew get of the money to spend ? Maybe £15m on players at best I'd expect , I don't feel sorry for Newcastle fans because he's pissed on them time and again and will continue to do so - wake up and smell the roses you magpies fans!
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Haha
Losers, Couldn't happen to a nicer club
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Haha
Losers, Couldn't happen to a nicer club
Exactly!
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Agent to Carroll: There's interest in you son, we should use the opportunity to get a better contract
Carroll to Pardew: Any chance I could have an improved contract gaffer?
Pardew to Carroll: Come on, you only signed one in October not right now
Carroll to Agent: They said no
Agent to Carroll: What! That's a disgrace. They obviously don't value you at all, we should put in a transfer request
Carroll to Chairman: I want a transfer
Chairman to Carroll: OK. My helicopter is waiting to take you to Liverpool.
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Very strange bunch, Newcastle fans are. I really don't understand their mentality and thought process.
I remember them getting really wound up when we took the piss out of them out of them at Villa Park on the final game of the season when they went down. They were actually blaming us for them being relegated. Hilarious.
re: Carroll. Yes it sucks to have your best striker leave, but they're getting an insane amount for him. If they stay up they'll get 3 or 4 good players with that money so they should be better in the long-term.
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That's only true though situation, if Ashley puts the cash back into signing players, his past history suggests whatever pardew may think that the majority of the Carroll transfer money will not be spent on new players.
Ashley has shown little to suggest he is in it for anything other than the money and has tried to sell up more than once to no avail- i'd be surprised come summer if pardew gets half the cash to spend.
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its great both north east loony bins loose there best strikers by miles, fist face and pardew must be wondering what the point is
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I find it hard to believe sometimes that Mike Ashley is actually a Newcastle fan. I can't think of one good thing he's done for the club.
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Selling Carroll and getting Ireland on loan for the rest of the season, there season is just going to go downhill from now on.
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I find it hard to believe sometimes that Mike Ashley is actually a Newcastle fan. I can't think of one good thing he's done for the club.
He's not - he's a Spurs fan.
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some one is telling porkies, NUFC show the transfer request
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some one is telling porkies, NUFC show the transfer request
He was saying he was forced into it. The truth would only emerge if you could see his finances as he would either have been paid off for his contract or he wouldn't. If he didn't want to go and was forced into it they would probably have to pay a loyalty bonus. If it was Carroll who put in the transfer request then unforced he would have signed that money away.
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He is a NUFC fan. He took them up. He is well paid by them. He is adored by his own fans. He has done well this season for them.
If this was the Villa and I had the ability to play for the Villa and a fan too and be in his shoes, why the fuck would you want to leave? It really is mental. Maybe (but not for me) 20 years ago when you had the money increase and to play for Liverpool was a big draw. But for somebody who was paid well, loved by his fans and in the England spotlight - it makes no sense.
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He said the chairman made it clear they wanted him to go as they wanted the money, in that situation and the chance to double his wage at one of europes most successful ever clubs , it seems quite sensible to me he would leave a newly promoted club to join Liverpool.
Yes he may be a toon fan but that means little , Rooney was a huge everyone fan but still jumped ship, a player will put his career before the team he supports.Liverpool are a far better long term prospect than Newcastle.
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i think this is the reason hughton was sacked, they knew he would fight the sale of carrol and pardew was told when he took over carrol is going in january so deal with it!
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i think this is the reason hughton was sacked, they knew he would fight the sale of carrol and pardew was told when he took over carrol is going in january so deal with it!
Seems unlikely as the deal only became possible because of Torres going to Chelsea.
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Equally unlikely as pardew spent the whole window denying Carroll would be sold, if he knew they were going to sell him he would look a fool by denying it so vehemently.
As I say, a good deal if they spent it all on players but Ashley is hardly a man of his word and will probably hand pardew less than half of it, whatever he may say now.
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Before we start taking the piss out of them i will give you another scenario. Gabby: I've always supported Villa from the day i was born i don't want to play anywhere else Gaffer. Houlleir: We don't want to lose you son but we have a surplus of fowards and appy arry has just offered us 25 million for your services, you will be getting a three million signing on fee. Gabby: how am i going to break it to all my fans, they will be awfully upset. The biggest losers out of this will be Liverpool,35 million for half a good season and a very bad reputation.
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If we got offered £25m for gabby then the world truly will have gone mad!
To us as fans it's different , but they are players and must do what's best in their career , if gabby left I'd understand that , Rooney did it at everton and life goes on .
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i think this is the reason hughton was sacked, they knew he would fight the sale of carrol and pardew was told when he took over carrol is going in january so deal with it!
Seems unlikely as the deal only became possible because of Torres going to Chelsea.
well i dont nessessarily mean to liverpool but the sale of carroll full stop, i think he was told if a decent offer was made for him he would be off
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Before we start taking the piss out of them i will give you another scenario. Gabby: I've always supported Villa from the day i was born i don't want to play anywhere else Gaffer. Houlleir: We don't want to lose you son but we have a surplus of fowards and appy arry has just offered us 25 million for your services, you will be getting a three million signing on fee. Gabby: how am i going to break it to all my fans, they will be awfully upset. The biggest losers out of this will be Liverpool,35 million for half a good season and a very bad reputation.
And don't you think this will probably be the scenario next season when Gabby plays Carling Cup and FA Cup matches and is on the bench unless Bent is injured?
He was on the bench last night, wasn't he?
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So, they've sold Carroll, and they're relying on Shola Ameobi, Nile Ranger and Leon Best to provide their goals.
Ameobi has broken his cheek bone tonight, which must mean a lay off for a while. They're also currently losing to Fulham
I wonder if they're worth a flutter to go down?
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So, they've sold Carroll, and they're relying on Shola Ameobi, Nile Ranger and Leon Best to provide their goals.
Ameobi has broken his cheek bone tonight, which must mean a lay off for a while. They're also currently losing to Fulham
I wonder if they're worth a flutter to go down?
Great isn't it!
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So, they've sold Carroll, and they're relying on Shola Ameobi, Nile Ranger and Leon Best to provide their goals.
Ameobi has broken his cheek bone tonight, which must mean a lay off for a while. They're also currently losing to Fulham
I wonder if they're worth a flutter to go down?
Great isn't it!
Ordinarily, yes, but losing to Fulham is something we could do without them doing, as it puts Fulham above us tonight.
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So, they've sold Carroll, and they're relying on Shola Ameobi, Nile Ranger and Leon Best to provide their goals.
Ameobi has broken his cheek bone tonight, which must mean a lay off for a while. They're also currently losing to Fulham
I wonder if they're worth a flutter to go down?
Great isn't it!
Ordinarily, yes, but losing to Fulham is something we could do without them doing, as it puts Fulham above us tonight.
Newcastle could follow blackpool in tumbling down the table, i'd be happy with the best fans in the world being in the championship again.
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Clearly not worth starting a new thread for, but worth posting anyway:
I scored 24 goals helping my side win promotion back to the Premier League aged just 22.
Then in my first season in the top flight I had bagged an impressive 15 goals by the end of January. Including a goal against the reigning champions, away at Arsenal and in a home win over Liverpool. My form earned me an England call-up and my debut in an international friendly.
Am a I £35m striker?
No I am Michael Ricketts, February 2002.
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Ameobi has broken his cheek bone tonight
And joins Adlene Guedioura on Steve Sidwell's hitlist for this season.
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Before we start taking the piss out of them i will give you another scenario. Gabby: I've always supported Villa from the day i was born i don't want to play anywhere else Gaffer. Houlleir: We don't want to lose you son but we have a surplus of fowards and appy arry has just offered us 25 million for your services, you will be getting a three million signing on fee. Gabby: how am i going to break it to all my fans, they will be awfully upset. The biggest losers out of this will be Liverpool,35 million for half a good season and a very bad reputation.
I think we should activly try and sell Gabby to Newcastle for £25 million !!
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Carroll may be one of those players who can do it for his hometown club but struggles elsewhere, the money paid is a huge risk on a player with less than 20 games at top level- a good player but we have seen many players at that age look really great prospects only to drift away down the leagues.
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I would have taken a chance on Carroll even for big money, because I think he can be a top striker. As I thought this time last year and earlier.
But £35m is... ludicrous, at this stage.
Outside of his comfort zone, it is quite possible his already fragile psyche could disintegrate.
It's a big gamble that could pay off spectacularly or be an absolute disaster and the fee exaggerates that.
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So, they've sold Carroll, and they're relying on Shola Ameobi, Nile Ranger and Leon Best to provide their goals.
Ameobi has broken his cheek bone tonight, which must mean a lay off for a while. They're also currently losing to Fulham
I wonder if they're worth a flutter to go down?
Great isn't it!
Ordinarily, yes, but losing to Fulham is something we could do without them doing, as it puts Fulham above us tonight.
yea, but if we look upwards, it puts us in touch with the top 10...
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Bestest and thickest fans in the world. Enjoy!
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Could never burn a villa top no matter who is on the back.
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Bestest and thickest fans in the world. Enjoy!
What sad little oiks they are, Ireland will fit in perfectly.
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I would have taken a chance on Carroll even for big money, because I think he can be a top striker. As I thought this time last year and earlier.
But £35m is... ludicrous, at this stage.
Outside of his comfort zone, it is quite possible his already fragile psyche could disintegrate.
It's a big gamble that could pay off spectacularly or be an absolute disaster and the fee exaggerates that.
He's a very good player. Of that there's little doubt and with right coaching and guidance he can fulfil his potential. However the pressure that will be on him will be incredible, and it's not like he's got a stand up captain to lean on to help him deal with it.
If he gets off to a slow start, or if his tendency to get injured remains a tendency there won't be anywhere to hide. He would always have been protected at Newcastle because he's one of them, but Liverpool fans won't be as forgiving especially given what they just shelled out for him. We got slated for being "desperate" in signing Bent. At least we got proven ability. It's not even close to to Liverpool's level of desperation in paying that for mostly potential and a lot of personal baggage.