Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: richardhubbard on January 25, 2011, 11:42:39 PM
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I think over next 2 years the bunch of young players that have come through could with the right signed players make villa Park exciting
Clarke looks a premership player to me already and has a number of positions he can play in
Lichaj- good few games a getting very close to being a member of our regular 18 man squad
Baker- starting to get involved in first team selection
Lowry- on loan at Sheffield United , see how he goes 2nd half of season
Gardner- great reserve come back
Delph- great potential and looks premership class when fit
Bannan- starting to establish himself in the premership regardless of his height
Albrighton- looks quality, future england international to me
Delf- just needs a first team run
Weimann- Looked good pre season and hopefully will do well on loan
Herd- again another edging around 1st team
Hogg- really improved when he got a run out
I dont remember ever having 12 players who looked like they could make it. If 5-6 make it for us they would be special
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It is great of course but I just can't see how we'll be able to give all of them sufficent runs in the team to prove themselves - not when we want to improve and are willing to shell-out on proven quality i.e £20m on a striker.
It'd be a pisser for Bannan and Fonz, who have a lot of competition in their positions, to get bored of only playing the odd game and bugger off in 12 months.
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I agree with the theme, however I am undecided about loaning potential out to play in lower leagues. My opinion is that you develop more quickly if you are exposed to a higher standard of football and by playing in the championship will only develop certain skills or behaviours and should be a very short term scenario.
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Competative games must surely improve people, there are not many reserve games and sitting on the bench for most of the season isn't going to improve them.
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I hope they all go on and make it nothing would make me more proud than that, we seem to have an exciting crop of youngsters at the Villa let's just hope they reach there potential at the Villa.
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I agree with the theme, however I am undecided about loaning potential out to play in lower leagues. My opinion is that you develop more quickly if you are exposed to a higher standard of football and by playing in the championship will only develop certain skills or behaviours and should be a very short term scenario.
But it's also good for youngsters to appreciate playing at other grounds and realising how great a club Aston Villa is, not everyone has the facilities we have.
As long as they play I don't mind them going out on loan, I see Hogg played yesterday but with Watford flying I can't see Weissman getting much of a look in there.
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I've never heard of half of those players ;-)
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our academy products will only get better over the next 10 years...
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our academy products will only get better over the next 10 years...
Without doubt, but I'm not convinced they are anywhere enar the finished article at the moment
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You really are a retard..
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You really are a retard..
What?
For him having an opinion on the younger players?
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Anyone got any idea what's happened to Eric Lichaj fallen out of favour after giving a penalty away heard nothing since. Next 1 to go out on loan maybe???
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You really are a retard..
Smashing stuff.
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I am really very positive about our younger players as a bunch - I think if 2/3 of that list make it to our first team as a regular that would be a fantastic result and we will get good money for the rest funding more investment in good young players
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It was a pity we got knocked out of Europe before the league stage. That would have been ideal to let some of the kids have a run out.
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credit should go to someone - they are a good crop of players
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And even if they don't make it for us, selling a few of them on for £3-£4m each will enable us to buy the Darren Bents of the world.
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Its very hard to throw youngsters in,the premier league is so competitive.However fairplay to Houllier,Clark and Baker have both now played at left back and are hungry to play.While Heskey was banned I would have loved Delfouneso to play longer but as we have been desperate for points Houllier can't gamble too much.However when are we not desperate for points?
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i understand that houllier is liking what he is seeing from delfouneso since he put his head down and started working harder in training... i think he wants to build up his hunger, and and at the same time, keep his feet on the ground....
the fact that he mentioned delfouneso first when darren bent signed, backs that up for me...
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I went to that Villa forum on monday and the guys on the panel were very impressed with Weimann said he could be better than Agbonlahor & The Fonz
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It is the best way to do it. Lower wages demand plus no stupid high transfer fees. We could become English's Barcelona without expensive superstars and superstars wages.
I think after clean out and a rebulit, we don't need to make many signing afterwards maybe 2 in each season. Then Randy can save money on transfer fees for special players.
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There's def some talent there. Beaky, Clark and delph will make it. Fonz should, bannan could, and with Gardner and weimann I'm going to say yes on reputation. Don't think lichaj, Hogg or herd will make it at villa
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From what i have seen think Gary Gardner is the most nailed on to be, the most succesful. Followed by Clarke and Bannan .......
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Agreed that Gardner will be the best hope of making the biggest impact but think if he does then Bannan is likeley to suffer most by being kept out the team .
If only we still had Cahill he's starting to look the player we knew he would be.
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I know I'm cynical and like to set the bar quite high but...
Clarke - Maybe but I think he is positionally quite weak at the moment. Doubt he will 'make' it as a higher Prem team.
Lichaj- Don't rate him that highly.
Baker- Impossible to say after his brief appearance at Wigan.
Lowry- Again, impossible to judge.
Gardner- Being great in the reserves means nothing with regards to how good he may be in the first team. Wait and see.
Delph- I've only seen him play 2 or 3 times and haven't seen anything that makes me think he is a great prospect or has a great future. he may well have but I haven't seen it.
Bannan- Could go either way yet. may be a Paul Scholes, may be a Steven Davis.
Albrighton- Looked great this season. Will need to add a trick though come next season because everyone will know what he's about.
Delf- Has looked sharper this season, but one shot at St Andrews apart he still doesn't look like he will score.
Weimann- Maybe. But not expecting much.
Herd- Not that impressed. He will work his way down the leagues.
Hogg- have to agree that the more he played the better he got. Needs to add a little spark to his game to play in the team regularly. Good loan move for him.
Out of that lot I'd only expect 1 to make it. Albrighton can stioll be a Froggatt but he could easily be a lot better than that too. I liked the look of Hogg by the time the first-teamers came in and he could potentially be the best of all of those that have played in the first team this season.
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i hope next season we see a lot of these players start L Cup games, or maybe if we are safe and destined mid table to give a few game time then
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Delfouneso needs to go on loan to a Championship club. Give him a bit of experience of good quality football. He's 20 next week, so can't be written off yet.
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I think Baker had a pretty good game midweek, didn't look out of his depth at all. Then again Lichaj looked o.k. till the Man City game.
Havn't been overly impressed by Hogg or Herd.
Super Mark looks like the best prospect for me if he can cut out the silly challenges and retain the ball better when we are under pressure.
Wee Barry has looked good at times but has also looked pretty lost at times.
I'm glad Clarke has declared for the Republic as we have very few quality players to choose from. He is going to make it, hopefully it will be with us and for a long time to come.
Still don't knoe what to make of The Fonz. Flashes of brilliance but they are few and far between.
We need to se Delf get a run of 9 r 10 games so we can see what he is made of.
Lowry, Gardner and Weimann , not seen enough of them yet.