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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Chico Hamilton III on January 24, 2011, 03:38:53 PM
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I'm not paying extra council tax just so that Gold, Sullivan and Brady can get their grubby hands of a fucking freebie stadium.
I'd rather knock it down than give it to them. Anyway, until Brady can demonstrate a knowledge of the offside rule , she shouldn't be allowed near a football stadium
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympic_games/london_2012/9371972.stm
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The whole thing is a mess.
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I still think they'll give it to Qatar.
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Yes, I'd rather not see our relay teams exchanging dildos instead of batons, please.
Well, let's not be so hasty. If we get an attractive womens 4x400 team together...
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This is what happens when you do something on the "cheap" in the first place. Should either have built a "proper temporary" stadium for less, or spent more on stadium that could be properly adapted afterwards. Now will be left with a concrete bowl that no good for anything.
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It's a shame as it is dragging on and takes up possible Villa transfer news time, get the decision made quickly and let's move on.
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The stadium was planned to have a legacy as an athletics-only venue. Now apparently it's only viable if it's a football stadium.
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Why didn't the London Olympic committee take the approach that Atlanta did ?
They decided in advance how the stadium would be used post-Olympics and designed it accordingly.
Visit "Turner Field" (as it's now called) now and you wouldn't recognise it as an Olympic venue
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Why didn't the London Olympic committee take the approach that Atlanta did ?
They decided in advance how the stadium would be used post-Olympics and designed it accordingly.
Visit "Turner Field" (as it's now called) now and you wouldn't recognise it as an Olympic venue
The problem with this was that our promise to retain it as an athletics venue was a key part of us getting the games. Everyone must have known how unviable that was, but we pretended we'd keep it that way.
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I don't want either club to get it and don't see why they should. West Ham probably have the greater claim, what with it being their "manor" and all, but only something like 1 in 20 of their fans wants to move. Imagine watching the Villa across a running track, no thanks.
And Spurs, well they can just piss off because they're Spurs.
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Why didn't the London Olympic committee take the approach that Atlanta did ?
They decided in advance how the stadium would be used post-Olympics and designed it accordingly.
Visit "Turner Field" (as it's now called) now and you wouldn't recognise it as an Olympic venue
I thought that was exactly what they did and decided on an 80,000 seater stadium of which 60,000 seats would be temporary and removed after the Olympics. Somewhere along the line those plans must have got "lost in the post".
The whole thing stinks.
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Oh well, at least it's going to be built on time.
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It makes more sense that West ham should get it but all they're interested in is somebody building them a stadium for nothing.
I hope Spurs get it, that means Spurs fans are pissed off, the Brady bunch are really pissed off and Seb (Lord) Coe is livid.
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The original estimate for the stadium was £282m, which has now risen to at least £525m (possibly £547m), on top of that Newham council will lend West Ham another £100m to convert the stadium. I got all these amounts from the Guardian but they were widely reported.
How has that stadium cost so much?? West Ham will make a big show about paying the last bit back but if them or Spurs get it they should pay the whole lot back.
From my window now I can see the stadium (well the very top of it), and over to the left the dome - another great example of frittering away millions of taxpayers' money which took years to sort out.
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We need somewhere in this country to be able to host Athletics events like, the World Championships, Europeans, World Cup, European Cup and the Commonwealth games, so we need to keep the athletics track.
I think you need a minimum of 40,000 seats to host the worlds so as long as that happens I don't care who owns it.
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give it to spuds but only if they pay the £537m it has cost
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Spurs should be prevented from having it, if purely to put an end to the ridiculous wastefulness of building a stadium for hundreds of millions of pounds, using it for one month, then knocking it down again.
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It makes more sense that West ham should get it but all they're interested in is somebody building them a stadium for nothing.
Well they have had years of practice.
I hope Spurs get it, that means Spurs fans are pissed off, the Brady bunch are really pissed off and Seb (Lord) Coe is livid.
I *hate* Sebastian Coe!
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The original estimate for the stadium was £282m, which has now risen to at least £525m (possibly £547m), on top of that Newham council will lend West Ham another £100m to convert the stadium. I got all these amounts from the Guardian but they were widely reported.
How has that stadium cost so much?? West Ham will make a big show about paying the last bit back but if them or Spurs get it they should pay the whole lot back.
From my window now I can see the stadium (well the very top of it), and over to the left the dome - another great example of frittering away millions of taxpayers' money which took years to sort out.
Yes, something that apparently the autorities couldn't do anything with to make it commercially viable because of its location. Well, AEG don't seem to have done too badly with it, have they? And did they actually pay anything for it in the end or were they just kind enough to take it off the tax-payers' hands so we no longer had to cover the exorbitant security costs?
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Spurs proposal is just bollocks, I'm no fan of the owners of West Ham but their proposal is far more appropriate.
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The thought of Brady/Gold/Sullivan finally getting their dirty little hands on a brand spanking new stadium totally free really makes my blood boil. Some of the crap Brady has been coming out with over the last few days turns my stomach - liking Spurs' plans to demolish the stadium to the closing down of 100 hundred primary schools is just sick. The same goes for her uncalled for comments about Pele as well, and the less said about the first game between Spurs and West Ham (if Spurs won the bid) being 'demolition derby', the better.
The most surprising thing about her is that there are still media outlets out there that feel the need to feed her undying urge for media whoredom. She really is a vulgar piece of work.
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I didn't realise the Stratford site was only five or six miles from WHL, I thought it was a lot further away. I'm not sure that letting them demolish a brand new stadium send out the right message in a recession though.
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I hate to mention it but the City of Manchester Stadium was built for the Commonwealth Games in 1992 and it was decided before the Games that Manchester City would use it afterwards so it was converted to a football-only stadium.
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I didn't realise the Stratford site was only five or six miles from WHL, I thought it was a lot further away. I'm not sure that letting them demolish a brand new stadium send out the right message in a recession though.
Its not even that far away - about an hour's walk so 3 miles maybe?
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so would anyone here be ok if Villa Park were rebuilt in Bordesley?
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West Ham in the championship with 15,000 a mile away from the pitch, some atmosphere, The Triunvirate of evil bought West Ham with the sole intention of selling Upton Park
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I would rather West Ham get it i just don't think it's right if spurs get it but it would piss there supporters off if they move there.
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Brisbane Road is literally across the road from the Olympic stadium. Whay don't they give it to Orient?
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Brisbane Road is literally across the road from the Olympic stadium. Whay don't they give it to Orient?
Sounds good to me!
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We have an interview with Karren Brady today. Apparently the powers-that-be would prefer to give the stadium to Wrist Ham but aren't at all convinced by the financial planning behind the bid, or the club's long-term stability. It is a big stumbling block.
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Brisbane Road is literally across the road from the Olympic stadium. Whay don't they give it to Orient?
Sounds good to me!
Wasn't the original plan for a 80,000 seater stadium of which 55,000 seats would be temporary and removed after the Olympics? Oh yes, that seems to be the case because it's still on their website (http://www.london2012.com/games/venues/olympic-stadium.php).
After the Games... It will be a venue for athletics and host other sporting, cultural and community events.
No mention of money-grabbing profiteering Premier League clubs getting their grubby fingers on it there.
So when and how did the plans change to a permanent structure that didn't fit the proposal put forward?
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Ooh, around the time of the general election.
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Have they decided yet? Why not turn it into a tennis stadium, and turn Wimbledon tennis courts into a football ground for AFC Wimbledon, allowing Kingstonian to get their own ground back in the process? I should be Mayor of London.
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I would vote for you
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Ooh, around the time of the general election.
Done a bit of digging and looks like it was first mooted in June 2009: LINK 1 (http://www.planetizen.com/node/39487) and LINK 2 (http://www.sportinglife.com/london2012/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=others/09/07/27/manual_094231.html).
So looks like we have Baroness Ford, Tessa Jowell and the 2018 World Cup bid to thank.
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We have an interview with Karren Brady today. Apparently the powers-that-be would prefer to give the stadium to Wrist Ham but aren't at all convinced by the financial planning behind the bid, or the club's long-term stability. It is a big stumbling block.
It would be funny if the Olympic stadium was given to a team stuck in the second tier. I do wonder what the non football supporting people of Newham think of their council voting to give £40mill to West Ham for their bid in these times of cut backs. If it is because they believe having a football team in the stadium would be good for the area then allowing Spurs in would earn them more money from European nights and suchlike then Spammers hosting Plymouth.
At least Trio of Terror have finally found a council who seems to want to bend over backwards to their wishes. Has a casino also been added to the new plans for that transformation of the ground?
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We have an interview with Karren Brady today. Apparently the powers-that-be would prefer to give the stadium to Wrist Ham but aren't at all convinced by the financial planning behind the bid, or the club's long-term stability. It is a big stumbling block.
It would be funny if the Olympic stadium was given to a team stuck in the second tier. I do wonder what the non football supporting people of Newham think of their council voting to give £40mill to West Ham for their bid in these times of cut backs. If it is because they believe having a football team in the stadium would be good for the area then allowing Spurs in would earn them more money from European nights and suchlike then Spammers hosting Plymouth.
I know what you mean, and I sympathise but surely nobody does anything for entirely commercial, or entirely sentimental reasons? How about they have an eye on the potential benefits to the borough AND they want to help out a local institution?
Edit: I'm referring to Newham council if that's not obvious.
I'm being reasonable, I'd better find that corkscrew.
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How about helping another local institution like Leyton Orient.
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Leyton Orient will do a Milton Keynes and bugger off somewhere I reckon. Seems to be Barry Hearn's plan. Maybe they could play at the Crucible?
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Also, and I could very well be wrong, isn't Leyton in Waltham Forest, rather than Newham?
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Ahh, you are correct. The A12 seems to be the border. So even though the LO ground is about 0.5 miles away from the Olympic Stadium they are in the different Council borough.
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You can't beat a bit of local authority-themed banter on a school night.
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Local for you maybe. I escaped back to Birmingham from Bexley before having to pay too much extra tax for something they was never going to benefit me or the local area compared to the East End and Central London.
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Stratford, local to me? Ha! I live in Muswell Hill. (Sort of) Wink.
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Things are getting personal now.
Levy was on London news last night, dismissing West Ham's plans to keep a running track. AEG have done similar today.
Sullivan has posted his thoughts on the West Ham website today. In a quite splendid rant he reckons that West Ham have got 700,000 fans worldwide and 17,000 on a waiting list for season tickets (?!?!).
he also mentioned his father, Wing Commander Sullivan, and his passion for sport, his 2 boys and how the legacy will benefit them and about how he and david Gold came "home " to West Ham after taking Blues from the 3rd tier and establishing them as a premier league outfit.
This time it's poissonal!!!
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17,000 on a waiting list?
Is that why they are continual trying to sell tickets on Talksport?
For Just £49.99 you can have a curry and pint and play in goal for the first 20 mins at which time our Chairman will pull you off....
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I'd rather the council turn it into a cinema rather than either of the fuckers having it
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17,000 on a waiting list?
Is that why they are continual trying to sell tickets on Talksport?
For Just £49.99 you can have a curry and pint and play in goal for the first 20 mins at which time our Chairman will pull you off....
Are we not venturing into the domain of slander if we allege he's giving out hand jobs as opposed to just selling pictures of other people doing it?
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Have they decided yet? Why not turn it into a tennis stadium, and turn Wimbledon tennis courts into a football ground for AFC Wimbledon, allowing Kingstonian to get their own ground back in the process? I should be Mayor of London.
Come on you Super!
Hoop-ers!