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Title: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: brackley on January 23, 2011, 06:10:54 PM
Did anyone else witness this yesterday, half an hour before kick-off?

A lone, crazed Manchester City supporter giving it the 'big 'un' outside the Holte Suite.

As he was set upon and realizing that he'd bitten off a bit more than he could chew, he wisely beat a tactical retreat and legged it, against the tide through the oncoming crowd. Weird.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: villajk on January 23, 2011, 06:15:04 PM
Was in the Holte Suite, upstairs, and was blissfully unaware of any incident.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: luke25 on January 23, 2011, 06:17:08 PM
I did'nt see this incident but did witness a City fan get chinned after the game by the healing Church, while I don't condone punching him it probably has to be said that standing there singing Anti-Villa songs at a passing crowd is probably not the wisest move
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Witton Warrior on January 23, 2011, 06:17:55 PM
I remember a coach load of them getting lost and coming down the Trinity Road after they had walloped 4 past us in a 70's night match. All the windows went through and then they started getting off - Neanderthal does not do them justice - we all beat a hasty retreat as well!
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: gav-avfc on January 23, 2011, 06:19:48 PM
as i was walking to the ground with my friend, we seen a group of maybe 6/7/8 man city fans singing blue moon and heading in general direction of the holte. they went up the stairs at the side of the ground and stood at bottom of the holte steps. bit of a stand off with a few villa fans and then the man city fans walked off as the stewards moved them on, 30 seconds later 1 of the more mouthy city fans was on his own and he ran back to the stewards and as he did got a punch to the side of the face and as he went down he was knee'd in the face. the 2 black stewards grabbed the city fan and got him away and i heard 1 of them say "shouldn't even be over this side ennit blud!"
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 23, 2011, 06:20:45 PM
I read through the match thread on Blue Moon and a Manc claimed that a Villa fan had threatened to stab him. Not pleasant.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Shaun Teales mom on January 23, 2011, 06:44:45 PM
Did anyone see the insident at the train station after the match few chav kids were singing 'tevez been bit by a shark' :-[ resulting in a city fan attempting to walk across the live train tracks to confront said chavs police quickly intervened
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on January 23, 2011, 06:45:32 PM
as i was walking to the ground with my friend, we seen a group of maybe 6/7/8 man city fans singing blue moon and heading in general direction of the holte. they went up the stairs at the side of the ground and stood at bottom of the holte steps. bit of a stand off with a few villa fans and then the man city fans walked off as the stewards moved them on, 30 seconds later 1 of the more mouthy city fans was on his own and he ran back to the stewards and as he did got a punch to the side of the face and as he went down he was knee'd in the face. the 2 black stewards grabbed the city fan and got him away and i heard 1 of them say "shouldn't even be over this side ennit blud!"
Great post ....
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on January 23, 2011, 06:58:42 PM
Man City have always had an idiot element, Then again our lot aint perfect. I always remember there being a full scale riot after they beat us 1-0 in the FA cup in the 90's. They were just going mad..They had won I remember thinkin I glad we got beat
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Pete3206 on January 23, 2011, 07:02:24 PM
Delightful stuff.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: LeeB on January 23, 2011, 07:09:42 PM
I read through the match thread on Blue Moon and a Manc claimed that a Villa fan had threatened to stab him. Not pleasant.

Well he shouldn't have broken into his house, should he?
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Legion on January 23, 2011, 07:10:25 PM
All those that spoke to me before the game were fine. No problems at all.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Mattwall on January 23, 2011, 07:11:41 PM
I'm a steward at vp and work with the away fans coz I wouldn't like to kick a villa fan out. The city fans are so arrogant calling villa a pub team they were fighting between themselves 100% wankers. One bloke came up to me and said your fucking shit a fucking pub team so I just laughed at him and said you've just been beat by a pub team then ha ha he didn't find it amusing
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: damon loves JT on January 23, 2011, 07:15:12 PM
"Now, I'm not saying the Chatsworth Estate is the Garden of Eden..."
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: LeeB on January 23, 2011, 07:20:58 PM
"At least we've got our own pub"
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: damon loves JT on January 23, 2011, 07:25:08 PM
Maybe we should set up a fixture with the team from t'Jockeh
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: timeoutbigbar on January 23, 2011, 07:30:42 PM
Sca'ah! Par'eh!
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on January 23, 2011, 07:43:14 PM
"At least we've got our own pub"
At least our "landlord" loves our club and don`t see at as a game of monopoly ......
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: joe_c on January 23, 2011, 08:01:53 PM
Maybe we should set up a fixture with the team from t'Jockeh

Sca'ah! Par'eh!

I'm delighted to see some posters demonstrating their grasp of Kilingon.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: The Left Side on January 23, 2011, 08:04:49 PM
The fans from both manchester club really do their club credit don't they!
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Legion on January 23, 2011, 08:06:15 PM
I much prefer the blue to the red.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Jimbo on January 23, 2011, 08:07:06 PM
The fans from both manchester club really do their club credit don't they!
.

Mancs in obnoxious twats shocker.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 23, 2011, 08:13:31 PM
Maybe we should set up a fixture with the team from t'Jockeh

Sca'ah! Par'eh!

I'm delighted to see some posters demonstrating their grasp of Kilingon.

What's Klingon for 'Sci-Fi Blackpool fan'?
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: villa1 on January 23, 2011, 08:18:07 PM
Quite a few of them in the city centre before the game. They were in the Troc and a few other pubs we went in. Didn't see any problems at all.

I did see it kicking off by the train station after the game but nothing major.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: luke25 on January 23, 2011, 08:22:00 PM
Give me Utd any day over City, in my experience City are the biggest bunch of obnoxious patronising pricks going, even more so than Spurs
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Legion on January 23, 2011, 08:22:43 PM
Give me Utd any day over City, in my experience City are the biggest bunch of obnoxious patronising pricks going, even more so than Spurs

I couldn't disagree more.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: joe_c on January 23, 2011, 08:22:56 PM
Maybe we should set up a fixture with the team from t'Jockeh

Sca'ah! Par'eh!

I'm delighted to see some posters demonstrating their grasp of Kilingon.

What's Klingon for 'Sci-Fi Blackpool fan'?

I'm glad you asked, it's "b'Ans use'r"
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: damon loves JT on January 23, 2011, 08:24:42 PM
Ironic, isn't it. Tevez himself looks like a Klingon. Either that or he plays with a cornish pasty sellotaped to his forehead
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Legion on January 23, 2011, 08:26:04 PM
Got bit by a shark...
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: luke25 on January 23, 2011, 08:29:27 PM
Give me Utd any day over City, in my experience City are the biggest bunch of obnoxious patronising pricks going, even more so than Spurs

I couldn't disagree more.
Suppose it depends on experiences, no doubt you come across a larger number of away fans than me though while on H&V duties
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Villa'Zawg on January 23, 2011, 08:29:31 PM
and now looks like Steve Bruce...
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Legion on January 23, 2011, 08:34:16 PM
Give me Utd any day over City, in my experience City are the biggest bunch of obnoxious patronising pricks going, even more so than Spurs

I couldn't disagree more.
Suppose it depends on experiences, no doubt you come across a larger number of away fans than me though while on H&V duties

Yes. I can guarantee the red side are far worse than the blue.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 23, 2011, 08:41:49 PM
Give me Utd any day over City, in my experience City are the biggest bunch of obnoxious patronising pricks going, even more so than Spurs

I couldn't disagree more.
Suppose it depends on experiences, no doubt you come across a larger number of away fans than me though while on H&V duties

Yes. I can guarantee the red side are far worse than the blue.
And if proof were ever needed City are not even close to the Red Scum fans , read on..

http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=205323

Now can you tell me Man Utd fans would have posted anything similar. It would have been how we ripped up the place, ran Villa, took over their main boozers etc. All posted from sunny Surrey, obviously.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Dave Cooper please on January 23, 2011, 08:54:28 PM
Ironic, isn't it. Tevez himself looks like a Klingon. Either that or he plays with a cornish pasty sellotaped to his forehead

The  new Tevez Low Fat Grilling Machine, so good he put his face on it.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: PeterWithe on January 23, 2011, 09:00:32 PM
I got the train back into town from Witton with a lot of their support, they were fine, a few mouthy twats shouting out the windows but harmless stuff.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Dave Cooper please on January 23, 2011, 09:06:18 PM
They were mostly fine as they came past where I was selling, a lot of very drunk buggers but to be expected given the extra two and a half hours supping time I suppose.

Sold two fanzines to Citeh fans looking for programmes so it's all good.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Dave Cooper please on January 23, 2011, 09:06:44 PM
Oh, and I sold  fanzine to Wolfie.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Nigel Macdougall on January 23, 2011, 09:14:08 PM
I' d be interested to know if any of our IOM based fans witnessed any of the alleged incident ?
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Villa'Zawg on January 23, 2011, 09:24:58 PM
...
And if proof were ever needed City are not even close to the Red Scum fans , read on..

http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=205323

Now can you tell me Man Utd fans would have posted anything similar. It would have been how we ripped up the place, ran Villa, took over their main boozers etc. All posted from sunny Surrey, obviously.

That is excellent.

Some eejit on their forum wrote....

"mate im not a hooligan at all but after getin train from aston i ended up singingin 'goin down my lord goin down villa goin down' then this villa fan came up to me n said shut so i told him fuck off n he said he was gunna stab me lol so i ignored him and he kept kickin off so i ended up chuckin a fence at him n he still give it so i asked him to come down a side street n fukin av it with me n he fukin done one so i shouted fuk off u brummie c*** then the next c*** comes along so i had lost it by then lol"

He is subjected to pages of quality piss-taking and derision culminating in this ...

(http://i52.tinypic.com/vur9d.jpg)

Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Exeter 77 on January 23, 2011, 09:32:27 PM
There were a few of their fans who made 'Shameless' look like a documentary, but then a few of our lot did Villa's reputation no good either.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 23, 2011, 09:51:32 PM
I don't have a problem with Man City fans. I have a problem with what their club has become, as it now represents pretty much every single thing which is wrong with the game.

Man United's away support are arrogant bastards, that much is true, but they always seem to be mainly Mancs, and they're always amongst the noisiest we see. I never understand why by comparison Liverpool get away with it, when away from home they take a gigantic number of jester hat wearing Scandinavians, and are - for me at least - the dictionary definition of the camera-toting once a season Sky fan.

Liverpool's away support is dreadful in pretty much every way. They don't even make any noise. The last few years at our place, they've been absolutely dreadful.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: avfc_1874 on January 23, 2011, 09:57:03 PM
I liked this comment

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Spoke to quite a few Villa fans on the way back and most if them were sound, just normal footy fans no different to ourselves. Never had any problems at Villa Park, unlike the mouth breathers from Birmingham City.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 23, 2011, 09:59:06 PM
Half five kick-offs, don't ya just love 'em?
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Holy Trinity on January 23, 2011, 10:02:22 PM
i just cried and almost pissed myself reading there forum
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 23, 2011, 10:13:08 PM
Ah the joys of the 5.30pm kick off.

Always loads of drunk morons at the game.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Surrey Villain on January 23, 2011, 10:42:00 PM
Give me Utd any day over City, in my experience City are the biggest bunch of obnoxious patronising pricks going, even more so than Spurs

I couldn't disagree more.
Suppose it depends on experiences, no doubt you come across a larger number of away fans than me though while on H&V duties

Yes. I can guarantee the red side are far worse than the blue.
And if proof were ever needed City are not even close to the Red Scum fans , read on..

http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=205323

Now can you tell me Man Utd fans would have posted anything similar. It would have been how we ripped up the place, ran Villa, took over their main boozers etc. All posted from sunny Surrey, obviously.

Leave me out of it please!
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 23, 2011, 10:46:54 PM
Sorry Surrey, no offence intended. Anyway, everybody knows you're nails and one of the founding members of the C Crew.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Chris Smith on January 24, 2011, 08:47:51 AM
That Blue Moon thread is great. It must be a bastard to read for all those who like their fans to conform to cosy stereotypes.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Rico on January 24, 2011, 09:16:27 AM
I live in Greater Manchester for most part of the week and rarely come across any City fans. Obviously loads of utd fans, who believe it or not are generally sound and fairly knowledgeable about their footie. The general consensus of opinion is that city fans are the equivalent of small heath fans. It must have something to do with living in the shadows of more illustrious neighbours. Sad really.

Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: LeeB on January 24, 2011, 09:19:30 AM
I live in Greater Manchester for most part of the week and rarely come across any City fans. Obviously loads of utd fans, who believe it or not are generally sound and fairly knowledgeable about their footie. The general consensus of opinion is that city fans are the equivalent of small heath fans. It must have something to do with living in the shadows of more illustrious neighbours. Sad really.



I myself have generally found that to be the case.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 24, 2011, 09:20:07 AM
Very funny that Blue Moon thread.

Referring to the almost illiterate fence thrower as a pissed up Incredible Hulk, very funny.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Guy M on January 24, 2011, 01:14:07 PM
That Blue Moon thread is great. It must be a bastard to read for all those who like their fans to conform to cosy stereotypes.
My favourite so far is from a poster named friend:
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When you say you "lost it" what was it you lost? Your knowledge of basic grammar?
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 24, 2011, 01:20:09 PM
This is the best post on there:

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There was a set-to between some Evangelicals, Non-Conformists and the organist. It escalated dramatically when the choir got involved.

(thread title is "Trouble near the church")
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Legion on January 24, 2011, 01:23:01 PM
I like the 'Posted from my V-Tech learn your abc' edit.
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: Markerton on January 24, 2011, 03:19:24 PM
I like the 'Posted from my V-Tech learn your abc' edit.

I agree. That was a personal highlight for me!
Title: Re: Incident Outside the Holte Suite.
Post by: ronshirt on January 24, 2011, 08:29:22 PM
The Daily Fail bit was best.
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