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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 22, 2011, 02:10:57 PM
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jan/21/darren-bent-edin-dzeko-scout-report
Tor-Kristian Karlsen
guardian.co.uk, Friday 21 January 2011
Scouting report: How Darren Bent and Edin Dzeko measure up
A football scout runs the rule over the new strikers at Manchester City and Aston Villa
Finishing
Bent 7
Often arrives at goalscoring opportunities at the end of strenuous runs, be it after outpacing a defender with the ball at his feet or pulling away from his marker to, ideally, slot home a cross or a through ball. Technically this makes his finishing quite rushed and harder to execute, which may explain the odd sloppiness and missed sitter
Dzeko 8
Delicately placed beauties with either foot, long-range screamers, perfectly measured headers – the Manchester City striker typically finds the net through finesse rather than power, instinct rather than laborious effort
Pace
Bent 8 Sheer speed is arguably his No1 attribute. Bent's acceleration, sharp and direct running on and off the ball, as well as his ability to exploit space, forces the opponents to play with a deeper line
Dzeko 6
By no means a sprinter – as you'd expect at 192cm – but the £27m man is hard to stop when he gets into his stride thanks to his great balance. Deceptively agile
Heading
Bent 7
Should arguably be even more dominant in the air given his size, though his all-round athleticism allows him to leap well and make his presence felt in challenges
Dzeko 8
Ironically for a striker of the Bosnian's height, he's more renowned for his technical skills than aerial prowess. Yet the former Wolfsburg man is more than capable in the air. Adds another dimension to the Man City attack
Body strength
Bent 8
The combination of speed and muscle is what Steve Bruce will miss the most from his departed striker. Even so, not the ideal hold-up forward; not for lack of power but Bent has to play facing towards goal to hit maximum performance
Dzeko 7
Lacks the aggressive edge often seen in British forwards of an equal build. For what he holds back in throwing himself around, he makes up for with first-class balance
Technique
Bent 6
As with most English forwards, Bent possesses a practical skill base rather than one full of flash touches or trickery. Maybe not eye-pleasing, but it suits its purpose
Dzeko 9
It won't be long before Alan Shearer points out that "this fella has a good touch for a big man". In this case Shearer would be wrong – Dzeko has a great touch for any man. A complete striker who's useful in all facets of the game
Tactical awareness
Bent 6
In many ways a one-dimensional forward who's reliant on space. Ideal for counter-attacking but loses his impact when what's demanded of him becomes too complex and the trajectory of his runs involve more than finding the quickest route to the opponent's goal
Dzeko 8
As is common with players from the Balkans, the Bosnian has a natural, almost instinctive, perception of the game. Understands when to keep, when to release. Can anticipate a pass as well as picking out a team-mate
Experience
Bent 8
For all the criticism he is an established Premier League star who's proven capable of scoring consistently for three different top-flight sides
Dzeko 6
Like all imports, he needs time to adjust to the Premier League's frantic pace. Integration and cultural adaptation might still become an issue
Verdict
Bent 50
On last year's form the closest you come to an English 20-goals-a-season striker in the top flight. Ideal for any team that plays on the break or employs traditional attacking schemes without sophisticated collective patterns of movement. He has probably found his rightful home at an upper mid-table Premier League side
Dzeko 52
A complete centre forward who masters all sides of the game. With his excellent technique, smooth movement, top finishing skills and advanced vision he would not look out of place up front for the likes of Real Madrid or Internazionale
Tor-Kristian Karlsen is International Scout for a leading European club
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I actually read the Guardian paper this morning and you had Mancini running his mouth saying Dzeko is better than Bent... I peered down to the stats and Bent just wipes the floor with Dzeko.
The Premier League has no patch on the Bosnian top flight, eh Roberto?
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Dzeko has done the business in Germany though, too early to make a complete comparison with Bent.
He has probably found his rightful home at an upper mid-table Premier League side
Don't know whether to be insulted, patronised or happy with that.
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Shouldn't Roberto be more concerned on how he's going to wear his scarf today?
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Think Dzeko is being scored on potential more than seen ability in the Prem on those stats, but is without doubt potentially a top, top forward. Bent is proven in our league, so probably a fair scoring. They have paid 27 rising to 34 for Dzeko, more than us.
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I actually read the Guardian paper this morning and you had Mancini running his mouth saying Dzeko is better than Bent... I peered down to the stats and Bent just wipes the floor with Dzeko.
The Premier League has no patch on the Bosnian top flight, eh Roberto?
I'm sorry, as annoying and patronising as that article was, Dzeko is a much better player than Bent - with time on his side as well. As pleased as I am to have Bent on board - and I think the article is unfair to his all-round game - Dzeko is a very good player indeed.
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The foreigner is always better, erm, just because he's foreign. No actual stats or proof needed to back it up. Anyways, Grafite was always better than Dzeko at Wolves.
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The foreigner is always better, erm, just because he's foreign. No actual stats or proof needed to back it up. Anyways, Grafite was always better than Dzeko at Wolves.
Dzeko doesn't just score goals he helps to make them. He's far more well-rounded as a player. Sadly, this often is because they're foreign, due to so many backwards practices in the English youth-level coaching system.
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havent seen Dzeco much so i'l just have to take there word for him,
but thought they summed up Bent pretty well
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Dzeko has done the business in Germany though, too early to make a complete comparison with Bent.
He has probably found his rightful home at an upper mid-table Premier League side
Don't know whether to be insulted, patronised or happy with that.
It made me want to grab the olives and book a flight to my holiday home in the South of France.
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Bent 1
Dzeko 0
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Dzeko a better finisher than Bent? Really?
I'm not knocking Dzeko who has a superior all round game but Bent is by all means a better finisher.
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Shame Dzeko wasn't playing tonight as it would have been great to compare the two.
What's that? Oh, right.
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Think Dzeko is being scored on potential more than seen ability in the Prem on those stats, but is without doubt potentially a top, top forward. Bent is proven in our league, so probably a fair scoring. They have paid 27 rising to 34 for Dzeko, more than us.
There was a report somewhere were they said it will be Bent v Dzeko where they mention that Citeh bought Dzeko for only £3mill more then we paid for Bent. Why is every report saying we bought him for £24mil. He is the first player where they take into account the add ons even though they he might not trigger some of them.
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18m 1 27m 0
now there is a scouting report!
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Think Dzeko is being scored on potential more than seen ability in the Prem on those stats, but is without doubt potentially a top, top forward. Bent is proven in our league, so probably a fair scoring. They have paid 27 rising to 34 for Dzeko, more than us.
There was a report somewhere were they said it will be Bent v Dzeko where they mention that Citeh bought Dzeko for only £3mill more then we paid for Bent. Why is every report saying we bought him for £24mil. He is the first player where they take into account the add ons even though they he might not trigger some of them.
I'm not sure that's the case. I've heard all sorts of figures quoted in the press for Wayne Rooney's move to Man Utd, for example, ranging from £17-27million. I quite like them mentioning the upper figure for Bent, to be honest!
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Ah, the Manchester Guardian. Always a good read over a pot of houmous and a reiki massage. They backed the Lib Dems at the general election, you know
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Dzeko did look quality though. Whether he scores bucketloads in this league remains to be seen....
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just finished reading the guardian (do you know how hard it was to find someone who has the guardian in Erdington) saw the article, very interesting,, just one thing though, can someone tell me where the page 3 bird is!! Ahh well all out of andrex now so the guardian will come in usefull after all,,
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Ah, the Manchester Guardian. Always a good read over a pot of houmous and a reiki massage. They backed the Lib Dems at the general election, you know
Ha ha, yes. And in one of their football blogs recently, one of the posters actually quoted part of Fever Pitch.
And they are getting pelters on every political blog about backing the Lib Dems, its hilarious.
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Dzeko looked like the new Emile Heskey today. Held the ball up well, linked with his team-mates, worked his socks off and.......... couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo
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(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2009/8/5/1249480462824/MH-Darren-Bent-001.jpg)
That's what's up.
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At the end of the day the only way to judge strikers against each other is goals- so on the basis of last night Darren Bent is clearly superior!
And whilst the lovely photo is more Will Smith than Michael Jackson, may I suggest a little ditty to the tune of Thriller...... It's Villa, Villa Night, and no-ones gonna save you from the Bent that gonna strike...etc ;D
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At the end of the day the only way to judge strikers against each other is goals- so on the basis of last night Darren Bent is clearly superior!
And whilst the lovely photo is more Will Smith than Michael Jackson, may I suggest a little ditty to the tune of Thriller...... It's Villa, Villa Night, and no-ones gonna save you from the Bent that gonna strike...etc ;D
Ha ha..am actually loving that chant !!!
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That is the best Bent chant I have heard yet. Quality!
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Oh yes, get that going!
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"It's Villa, Villa Night, and no-one's gonna save you from the Bent about to strike"
Love it!
Perhaps the Brigada 1874 could work on this choreography:
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I was very impressed with Dzeko, his movement and first touch were both excellent.
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"It's Villa, Villa Night, and no-one's gonna save you from the Bent about to strike"
Love it!
Perhaps the Brigada 1874 could work on this choreography:
class
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Could we get this going on the Holte?
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"It's Villa, Villa Night, and no-one's gonna save you from the Bent about to strike"
Love it!
Perhaps the Brigada 1874 could work on this choreography:
That is so funny! Me and the Mrs enjoyed that!
Also that ditty Could go down as best terrace song this decade! Love it.
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Bent- finishing 7?!?!?!
Who wrote that? I've seen enough of him in 18 months at our place to know he's a 9. The rest seems fair enough though. Yes he is a little one dimensional at times, but if one dimension gets you 20+ goals a season I certainly didnt complain.
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Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but did anyone see MOTD Saturday night? The stat they brought up was that Bent only had one touch in the box all game - and that was the goal!
His all round play was also good, without being spectacular, so I don't think he'll be a passenger we have to carry when it comes to build up play.
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A statistic I've not seen thrown about much - no striker in the league takes as few shots per goal that he scores as Darren Bent.
Something he's certainly carried on thus far with us.
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It's Bent for me he is proven and has he proved on saturday one chance one goal.
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How do Bent and Dzeko measure up? I think they missed an important area...
Chance of still playing in England in four years time?
Bent 10
Dzeko 2
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Dzeko just looked to me like a foreign Peter Crouch, but with fancier boots.
Let's be honest for one minute, the only reason everyone's saying he's better than Bent is so their £27m can be justified.
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I thought dzeko looked quality, admittedly man city seemed to dominate possession. I was impressed that with how mobile he was and was often found linking with midfield. In many ways his play was a lot more like tevez than I had imagined (I thought he was more of a target man...) to the point where they might actually get in each others way.
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Dzeko just looked to me like a foreign Peter Crouch, but with fancier boots.
Let's be honest for one minute, the only reason everyone's saying he's better than Bent is so their £27m can be justified.
...and because he has a vowel on the end of his name. Johnny (sorry- Juan) foreigner is always better.
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7 for finishing, 154 career goals in 363 games, surely that's worth at least an 8?