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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Ads on January 16, 2011, 07:10:22 PM

Title: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: Ads on January 16, 2011, 07:10:22 PM
Apparently an Everton fan has been stabbed to death outside the King Harry pub.
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 16, 2011, 07:12:29 PM
It's doing the cyber-rounds but nothing confirmed yet. Let's hope it's not true.
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: Witton Warrior on January 16, 2011, 07:13:35 PM
That's terrible news

I never bought into all the "friendly" stuff but it was a change not to read about a derby that was looked on as a time for a good old punch up

Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: lovejoy on January 16, 2011, 07:14:59 PM
I always thought this Everton Liverpool friendly stuff was a myth.
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: Karlos96 on January 16, 2011, 07:25:08 PM
There was an annoucement during the game over the tannoy that ones of the roads had been closed due to an incident not sure if that's the same thing hope not.
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on January 16, 2011, 07:25:48 PM
I really hope its not true
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: PeterWithe on January 16, 2011, 07:31:07 PM
I always thought this Everton Liverpool friendly stuff was a myth.

I used to spend a fair amount of time in Liverpool, they hate each other. Its just that they hate the mancs more.
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: littlevillain on January 16, 2011, 07:39:24 PM
ironic in the states how warren barton made a point of telling his american audience that its the only english derby that fans from both sides sit together in harmony!. where's he from?
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: PeterWithe on January 16, 2011, 07:43:10 PM
BBC saying the game passed off peacefully, hopefully its bullshit.
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: lovejoy on January 16, 2011, 07:46:10 PM
BBC saying the game passed off peacefully, hopefully its bullshit.

You hope someone got stabbed to death?
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on January 16, 2011, 07:48:19 PM
Got this from an Everton forum

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The latest news on radio Merseyside is...................

There was a fight in the King Harry pub, the pub was closed, but there were no serious injuries and no arrests.

Whether something has happened after this or like the Gman said, they are holding back info to stop an all out riot, we shall learn later. However, if everytime there was a fight in a city pub they shut the road, the streets would be constantly grid locked.

Lets face it, they are reds............murdering is what they do!
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: PeterWithe on January 16, 2011, 07:48:34 PM
Do you really think thats what I meant?
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: lovejoy on January 16, 2011, 07:55:11 PM
That's what you've written but I'm open minded enough to give you the benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: PeterWithe on January 16, 2011, 08:02:07 PM
If you want to score a cheap pedantic point of the back of someone maybe getting stabbed at a match you fill your boots.
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: Mac on January 16, 2011, 08:06:52 PM
I'm guessing it meant the report of the incident is bullshit.

That said, these things get media blackout to avoid reprisals.  Look how Chris Priest's murder was reported.
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 16, 2011, 08:12:44 PM
From an Everton forum...

LiverpoolEcho Newspaper @ 19:25
"We understand no one is dead, but the 'no injuries' line is hard to square with the photo we have of a large blood pool outside the pub."

Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: Clark W Griswold on January 16, 2011, 08:21:25 PM
That's what you've written but I'm open minded enough to give you the benefit of the doubt.

WTF?
 :o
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: darren woolley on January 16, 2011, 08:23:43 PM
If it has happened it's such tragic news.
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: Fin Feds Dad on January 16, 2011, 08:31:38 PM
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2011/01/16/police-investigating-after-incident-outside-king-harry-pub-before-liverpool-fc-v-everton-fc-merseyside-derby-100252-27997413/#sitelife-commentsWidget-bottom
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: Small Rodent on January 16, 2011, 08:36:03 PM
If you want to score a cheap pedantic point of the back of someone maybe getting stabbed at a match you fill your boots.


Yeah, I'm a bit surprised by lovejoy's response.
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: john e on January 16, 2011, 08:38:24 PM
ironic in the states how warren barton made a point of telling his american audience that its the only english derby that fans from both sides sit together in harmony!. where's he from?
ironic in the states how warren barton made a point of telling his american audience that its the only english derby that fans from both sides sit together in harmony!. where's he from?


not any more, but i've seen loads of liverpool derby games when they are all mingled in together, not so many years ago either
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: Stu on January 16, 2011, 08:39:53 PM
That's what you've written but I'm open minded enough to give you the benefit of the doubt.

You have got more and more mental as you've been posting on these boards, I suggest a break for a while and perhaps laying off the arsehole tablets would help.
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: The Walshmeister on January 16, 2011, 08:42:40 PM
There were a few Everton fans in the Liverpool end that celebrated for both goals. Imagine that at VP!!!! They do mix, but not in the 100's..........
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: Somniloquism on January 16, 2011, 08:47:19 PM
I couldn't see the police cordoning off a main exit point because of some scuffles before KO. Unfortunately I reckon something serious has happened there.
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: lovejoy on January 16, 2011, 09:05:21 PM
You have got more and more mental as you've been posting on these boards, I suggest a break for a while and perhaps laying off the arsehole tablets would help.


That's what you've written but I'm open minded enough to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Listen I've re-read the original post and I see what was meant now but in all honesty I thought PeterWithe was being a tw@t. I can now see this was a mistake on my part and I apologise for this.

Not sure how posting on tax evasion by players or being pleasantly surprised by todays performance makes me mental (perhaps I'm not negative enough??!!) or an asshole. Read through the game thread and see how mental some people can be.
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: villa1 on January 16, 2011, 09:07:48 PM
Blimey. I thought you were joking, lovejoy.

Amazed you didn't realised what he meant.
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: Fergal on January 16, 2011, 10:08:12 PM
So sad.
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: Fin Feds Dad on January 17, 2011, 08:40:23 PM
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2011/01/17/football-fan-attacked-and-beaten-on-way-to-merseyside-derby-match-100252-27998427/

More detail from yesterday
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on January 17, 2011, 08:48:55 PM
Scum, Sub human scum.

There was trouble at Sunderland & Newcastle, Harper was pushed to the ground by someone who invaded the pitch. I can see the fences comin back up at this rate
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: Somniloquism on January 17, 2011, 10:36:02 PM
Although it was a disgusting act from a bunch of cowards at least it wasn't as bad as first feared.
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: PeterWithe on January 17, 2011, 10:41:46 PM
Well I’ve received more sincere apologies and ones that didn’t include calling me a twat but nevertheless I’m glad its now as clear to you as to everyone else that I don’t think football fans getting stabbed is something to be made  light of.
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: lovejoy on January 18, 2011, 08:35:19 AM
I think we're on the same page on this then.

(I didn't call you a tw@t I apologised for assuming you were being a tw@t).

Draw a line and move on?
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: PeterWithe on January 18, 2011, 09:39:43 PM
Draw a line and move on?

That would seem sensible.
Title: 0% Villa. Utter pondlife
Post by: Breezeblock on January 19, 2011, 12:04:14 PM
That problem at the Liverpool Everton match (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2011/01/18/merseyside-derby-day-throat-slash-victim-speaks-of-his-terror-100252-28003999/)

Title: Re: 0% Villa. Utter pondlife
Post by: nodge on January 19, 2011, 12:08:16 PM
But they're all cheeky chappie scousers who sit together at the match aren't they?
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Utter pondlife
Post by: Dr Butler on January 19, 2011, 12:11:40 PM
that is some scar.

hope the incident does not stop him going to the match.

UTV
Title: Re: 0% Villa. Utter pondlife
Post by: WikiVilla on January 19, 2011, 12:14:53 PM
Why would 3 blokes go outside to get the 6 year old son in ?
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: villajk on January 19, 2011, 08:45:41 PM
Why would 3 blokes go outside to get the 6 year old son in ?

and why would three blokes leave a 6 year old outside a pub (or anywhere) in the dark?
Title: Re: 0% Villa- The Friendly Derby
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on January 20, 2011, 02:48:04 AM
Think quite a lot of information is being left out of this story. So hard to judge ...
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