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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: kerms on December 31, 2010, 03:53:30 PM
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Celtic have just signed this guy,, he's fit for the first time in ages,, in my opinion a much much better bet than pires !!!!
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lets get romario out of retirement as well...
have a zimmerframe area out in the car park...
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Having not seen him play for a long time it's hard to comment. I can see what your saying, although it probably isn't as straightforward as you make out. Besides, he'll find it much easier in the SPL.
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Ljungberg is only 33. I thought he was older than that.
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Probably because Pires was signed when we had no players. Whereas it's January now and we're able to sign players.
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Pires was bad enough. Bear in mind that Pires actually was a far better player to begin with and was recently playing at a decent level in Spain rather than the MLS.
Watching him at West Ham (2, 3 years ago?) it was evident he was shot and a year or so in semi-retirement won't help.
We have far wider horizons in January than free-agent hasbeens too.
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Celtic have just signed this guy,, he's fit for the first time in ages,, in my opinion a much much better bet than pires !!!!
I take it you didn't see him at West Ham a couple of years ago?
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I can see what Kerms is saying I think..... not why did we not sign Freddie as well as Pires but if why if both were available why sign Pires over Freddie.
Probably that Pires was being touted around at the time and GH saw something in Pires that he thought would bring to a very young and inexperienced squad.
Sometimes a player available today wasn't available yesterday. shifting sands.
I truly think that in a less pressurised environment where we are struggling to get a win and flirting with the bottom 3 Pires would have added something to our squad. But in our current situation he is like a rabbit in headlights and as such is an easy target for the boo boys.
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Celtic have just signed this guy,, he's fit for the first time in ages,, in my opinion a much much better bet than pires !!!!
what a ludicrous post, you are a short sighted idiot!
Pires was signed because we had no players and he was fit, available and able to start straight away. Some people will moan about fucking anything!
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Dear me, oh dear me, what are we coming to...
I take it you saw him perform for West Ham and heard what their fans thought of him?
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When I heard that Ljungberg had signed for someone in Britain I immediately thought it must be us because he is so shit!
Thank the Lord for small mercies and all that...
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If we had signed Ljungberg then everyone would have been saying what we signed another has been for?
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Celtic have just signed this guy,, he's fit for the first time in ages,, in my opinion a much much better bet than pires !!!!
what a ludicrous post, you are a short sighted idiot!
Pires was signed because we had no players and he was fit, available and able to start straight away. Some people will moan about fucking anything!
You are of course basing your comments on what ??
A short sighted idiot am I ?? I believe the signing of Pires to be one of the worst signings villa have ever made, a la Balaban, this guy will never make an impact, is getting driven around like royalty , and will never be as committed to Villa as Bannan is , so why sign him ??
Moan about Fucking Anything ?? Please point out my other moans on this site ??
My Point was and still is,, if Villa are now looking at these kind of signings , why havent we signed him ?? Surely he is the same kind of risk as Pires yet he was hailed as a saviour !!!
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Yep season tickets will definitely be getting ripped up because we signed one ageing squad player instead of another arbitrary one.
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Robert Rasario.
He sounds exotic.
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Celtic have just signed this guy,, he's fit for the first time in ages,, in my opinion a much much better bet than pires !!!!
what a ludicrous post, you are a short sighted idiot!
Pires was signed because we had no players and he was fit, available and able to start straight away. Some people will moan about fucking anything!
Bit harsh. But each to their own I suppose.
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Probably because Pires was signed when we had no players. Whereas it's January now and we're able to sign players.
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There needs to be a facepalm smiley.
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Having watched Ljungberg in the MLS over the last 2 years, we are not missing him or his wages... I remember we were linked with him before he moved to the Arse in 1998, shame as he was a good player in his day. If we would have got him before Celtic we could have got Mellberg back too, then we would have had some fun and games at Bodymoor!
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There needs to be a facepalm smiley.
(http://forum.football365.com/images/smiley_icons/santapicard.png) courtesy of 365
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Celtic have just signed this guy,, he's fit for the first time in ages,, in my opinion a much much better bet than pires !!!!
what a ludicrous post, you are a short sighted idiot!
Pires was signed because we had no players and he was fit, available and able to start straight away. Some people will moan about fucking anything!
You are of course basing your comments on what ??
A short sighted idiot am I ?? I believe the signing of Pires to be one of the worst signings villa have ever made, a la Balaban, this guy will never make an impact, is getting driven around like royalty , and will never be as committed to Villa as Bannan is , so why sign him ??
Moan about Fucking Anything ?? Please point out my other moans on this site ??
My Point was and still is,, if Villa are now looking at these kind of signings , why havent we signed him ?? Surely he is the same kind of risk as Pires yet he was hailed as a saviour !!!
he was never seen as a saviour, however he was another experienced body to have available whilst some more of our pros were getting fit, as for moaning about anything, that wasnt aimed at you but to every moaner who posts on here lately, everyone will feel like they have an axe to burn on here, like everyone who bemoaned the shit football under oneill and now want rid of houllier because of the threat of relegation and now wants stability back!
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Probably because Pires was signed when we had no players. Whereas it's January now and we're able to sign players.
Is the correct answer
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Probably because Pires was signed when we had no players. Whereas it's January now and we're able to sign players.
Is the correct answer
Argumentative this I know , but has Pires shown us that he is better than anyone else that we had on the bench ?
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He was signed at a time when Osbourne was nearing first team action and Salifou was almost getting on the bench. He probably wasn't worth the wages but it was a good gamble to take IMO.
Plus, we've no idea what he's offered on the training ground. At the very least he's given the manager an ally in the dressing room.
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Pires is also French, and probably is buddies with Ged. Ljungberg is not French, and probably not buddies with Ged. Also Ljungberg was shit at West Ham, as others have pointed out.
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Pires is a waste of space, twice against spurs the ball dropped to him on the edge of the box with no one around him.
Does he
A Lash a volley into the top corner.
B play a great pass to a villa player
C take control of the ball and retain posession
d sidefoot it on the volley straight at the nearest defender not once but twice
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Pires was a much better player and more technically gifted. Ljungberg was more reliant on his pace back then too, which has gone. Pires has never relied much on pace.
In any case, Pires has proven so far to have been long past it. Ljungberg would prove equally inadequate. It's jan tomorrow, whereby we can go out and sign players much young, with their careers ahead, or at least players peaking.
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Pires was a fucking shocking signing
i would have gladly played anyone of our outstanding kids than a 37 year old frenchman who cant even run
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Pires was a fucking shocking signing
i would have gladly played anyone of our outstanding kids than a 37 year old frenchman who cant even run
We were playing the outstanding kids. The only ones we had left were Osbourne and Salifou.
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Pires was a fucking shocking signing
i would have gladly played anyone of our outstanding kids than a 37 year old frenchman who cant even run
We've been playing our outstanding kids all season and look where we are in the league.
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Have watched Ljunberg in the dodgy MLS the last few years and he's absolutely shit, which just shows you how bad the scottish league is.
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Probably because Pires was signed when we had no players. Whereas it's January now and we're able to sign players.
Is the correct answer
Argumentative this I know , but has Pires shown us that he is better than anyone else that we had on the bench ?
It was a gamble at a time when we couldn't sign anyone else and were short of players. It didn't work or hasn't worked yet...move on.
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Ljunberg couldn't hack it at Arsenal, failed at West Ham, was poor by all accounts in the MLS. It should be obvious to anyone his legs went about 5 years ago.
He is completely and utterly shot
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Celtic have just signed this guy,, he's fit for the first time in ages,, in my opinion a much much better bet than pires !!!!
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Think you should ask hammers fans whether they'd want Ljungberg back at their club.
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Neither.
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Apparently Ljungberg signed for West Ham with a fractured hip.It wasn't until he to the USA they found it.
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I would rather not waste the money on Ljungberg's wages and get another younger more exciting player in.
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because Pires is good enough...No? OK!
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I'm sure Pires would be player of the season in Scotland. Just because someone signs for Celtic doesn't mean they can cut it in the Cjhampionship never mind the Prem.
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He'll struggle to keep Paddy McCourt out of the team: