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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: SoccerHQ on December 27, 2010, 10:01:41 PM

Title: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 27, 2010, 10:01:41 PM
What did people make of that decision last night?

He was the captain last night so with Dunney being banished seems to have been elevated into Houllier's mind as our number one centre half all of a sudden.

Not sure on that, I don't see him as a leader or organiser of the defence.

He's short on pace, gets turned easily and should've cut out that cross for the first goal.

Must admit I'd like to see Clark and Cuellar as our CB partnership in the near future.
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: PeterWithe on December 27, 2010, 10:04:56 PM
I did wonder who was the captain with Dunn, NRC, Petrov & Young not starting.

Collins would seem the obvious choice
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: Bosco81 on December 27, 2010, 10:07:34 PM
I think Collins sees playing for Villa as a previledge, if anything last night he tried too hard.

In the predicament we are in now we need a few more like him, it's certainly not the time to pick a young kid ahead of him.
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 27, 2010, 10:13:24 PM
I did wonder who was the captain with Dunn, NRC, Petrov & Young not starting.

Collins would seem the obvious choice

Think Warnock's been captain at Blackburn but him on the way out so only other real option was Friedel.
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: PeterWithe on December 27, 2010, 10:16:00 PM
Or Downing who has captained Boro and has been our best player, bit of a bender though...
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 27, 2010, 10:18:08 PM
I think Downing only captained Boro as he was a local.

Fcuk it, give it to Gabby then!
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: gervilla on December 27, 2010, 10:18:33 PM
What difference does it make, it makes none,
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: Mattwall on December 27, 2010, 10:22:07 PM
Wrong decision Collins is rubbish
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on December 27, 2010, 10:25:08 PM
Luke Young would be my captain if he was fit.
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: Nastylee on December 27, 2010, 10:25:57 PM
What's the big deal, these days a captain tosses a coin and has a photo with the ref. 
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: Pete3206 on December 27, 2010, 10:48:31 PM
So many knowledgeable viewpoints. 
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: gervilla on December 27, 2010, 11:05:22 PM
Well ,when we are in the shit up to the point we are at the moment  I think who is captain is the least of our worries.
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 27, 2010, 11:06:41 PM
At least Ashley Young wasn't playing, he would have been captain.

Collins was a sensible choice.
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: darren woolley on December 28, 2010, 09:58:05 AM
I think it was the right choice to have Collins as captain.
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: Shrek on December 28, 2010, 10:12:48 AM
It's not a big issue really, it was for one game, Petrov is our captain and havent we missed him, alot of us me included wanted him dropped before his injury.
But he can't come back soon enough.
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: brian green on December 28, 2010, 10:22:07 AM
It has nothing to do with tossing the coin and having a photograph with the referee.


It is about leadership on the pitch.   It is about bollocking lazy players, calming down nervous ones, restraining angry players' it is about showing fight when we go goals down and not letting heads drop.   It is about sorting out set pieces and not letting inexperienced players get carried away (a good example being Marc Albrighton taking a quick sloppy short throw in injury time when it should have been bombed into the box) it is about expressing  fair views to the referee when clearly wrong calls have been made.   It is about making sure the players acknowledge the travelling fans and do not just slink off down the tunnel.  It is about showing bravery and commitment when all those about him are not up for the fight.   It is about telling Downing the basic truth that he is much more likely to get hurt bottling tackles than making them,

Those are just a few reasons we need a captain and we would be a better side for having somebody who could do those things.
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 28, 2010, 10:38:55 AM
It has nothing to do with tossing the coin and having a photograph with the referee.


It is about leadership on the pitch.   It is about bollocking lazy players, calming down nervous ones, restraining angry players' it is about showing fight when we go goals down and not letting heads drop.   It is about sorting out set pieces and not letting inexperienced players get carried away (a good example being Marc Albrighton taking a quick sloppy short throw in injury time when it should have been bombed into the box) it is about expressing  fair views to the referee when clearly wrong calls have been made.   It is about making sure the players acknowledge the travelling fans and do not just slink off down the tunnel.  It is about showing bravery and commitment when all those about him are not up for the fight.   It is about telling Downing the basic truth that he is much more likely to get hurt bottling tackles than making them,

Those are just a few reasons we need a captain and we would be a better side for having somebody who could do those things.


exactly, thats why I cant think of one player...   theres no bollocks in this team...     maybe NRC If he starts...
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: Clark W Griswold on December 28, 2010, 10:45:49 AM
He's shite.
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: glasses on December 28, 2010, 10:54:46 AM
He is our best centre midfielder.
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: berneboy on December 28, 2010, 11:05:59 AM
So many knowledgeable viewpoints.

I thought so too.
We do so consider carefully and with measured words.
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: rutski on December 28, 2010, 11:13:25 AM
Wrong decision Collins is rubbish
so far matt, most of your comments have been less than constructive, 3 posts, all negative, i smell something!
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: Legion on December 28, 2010, 11:21:02 AM
It has nothing to do with tossing the coin and having a photograph with the referee.


It is about leadership on the pitch.   It is about bollocking lazy players, calming down nervous ones, restraining angry players' it is about showing fight when we go goals down and not letting heads drop.   It is about sorting out set pieces and not letting inexperienced players get carried away (a good example being Marc Albrighton taking a quick sloppy short throw in injury time when it should have been bombed into the box) it is about expressing  fair views to the referee when clearly wrong calls have been made.   It is about making sure the players acknowledge the travelling fans and do not just slink off down the tunnel.  It is about showing bravery and commitment when all those about him are not up for the fight.   It is about telling Downing the basic truth that he is much more likely to get hurt bottling tackles than making them,

Those are just a few reasons we need a captain and we would be a better side for having somebody who could do those things.

Well said, Brian. I am in complete agreement with that. We lack a real 'leader' on the pitch and have done for quite a long time.
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: villa1 on December 28, 2010, 11:55:38 AM
Absolutely correct Brian.
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: dicedlam on December 28, 2010, 12:14:47 PM
There is only NRC in our squad that would tick the list of Brian's requirements.

We have not had a proper captain in my eyes since Southgate or even possibly before him, Townsend.
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: LeeB on December 28, 2010, 12:20:06 PM
He is our best centre midfielder.

You should probably add "...and guide dog" to your username.
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: Chipsticks on December 28, 2010, 12:39:08 PM
I would have made Friedel captain.
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: garyshawsknee on December 28, 2010, 12:48:54 PM
Not even sure if Collins deserves to be in the team on recent performances. If Petrov plays today,surely it'll go back to him.
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: glasses on December 28, 2010, 01:00:40 PM
Ok LeeB, care to tell who you think our best Centre Midfielder is then? There are people all around your 'witty' post, stating that NRC is possibly the player most suited to being captain, because of his leadership qualities. He is the best tackler in the midfield, he is quick across the pitch, strong, and can run all day long. Ok he perhaps isn't going to play the defence splitting pass, he can play simple passes though, but as an all round midfielder, he ticks more boxes than anyone else for me.
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: Diablo on December 28, 2010, 01:20:29 PM
He has been the captain of his country a few times and he seems (quite rightly) to take great pride in that.  I'm sure he'll relish the challenge of captaining us. He might even be permanently awarded the captaincy for Wales (he must be in the running) as I read the other day that Bellamy has asked for the captaincy to be handed over to someone else (without knee trouble).
Title: Re: James Collins, Villa captain.
Post by: TheSandman on December 28, 2010, 02:37:51 PM
I'm a big fan of Collins in truth. He has made fewer and less shocking mistakes than Dunne who was deservedly dropped. In that team who played Sperms he was just about the best choice. We've lacked most of our leaders this season. For me Petrov, NRC, Dunne (though he doesn't deserve to be in the team on form) and to an extent despite his petulance Ashley Young have the characteristics as leaders.

A lot of crap... Sorry considered viewpoints were on here about Stan, poor player, not a good captain, so on, so forth but we've missed him. He is the type to lead by example, speak to the ref and calm our players down. He doesn't need to be a loud abrasive character to do that. Same with NRC really. NRC is according to those who know him a shy and retiring guy not that abrasive character but he organises and speaks to his team mates.
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