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Title: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: DeKuip on December 16, 2010, 04:34:25 PM
Slave labour at Citeh...

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/Video/Features/Christmas-card-with-the-MCFC-players (http://www.mcfc.co.uk/Video/Features/Christmas-card-with-the-MCFC-players)

And Tevez's English is coming on well too if you can bear to stick it out to the end.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: jembob on December 16, 2010, 04:55:47 PM
A mate of mine works for a print company that has just quoted £7,000 to produce a small set of invitation cards for Gareth Barry's 30th birthday party. Apparently they only need 250 but the cost is so high because the card uses special heat sensitive ink which changes colour when picked up.

Just imagine how much lard arse will be spending on the actual party!

PS - They apparently thought that the price was reasonable!!
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: TimTheVillain on December 16, 2010, 06:13:25 PM
but the cost is so high because the card uses special heat sensitive ink which changes colour when picked!

Bit like Fat Barry's face !
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on December 16, 2010, 06:25:35 PM
Why is this 2% Villa?

Neither player play for the Villa?

I have no interest in either
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: b23 on December 16, 2010, 06:29:19 PM
2 ex Villa players = 2% maybe ? Not much interest in them here either.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: 1958Villan on December 16, 2010, 07:07:07 PM
Oh do me a favour.

They work for 2 hours on a saturday and for 4 hours a day for 4 other days a week, totalling some 18 hours a week, for a wage of £100k a week.

I used to and know dozens of people that still do, work 18 hours a day for £15k a year.

And they have the temerity to complain that they get 'tired'.
They ought to be on their knees every day, thanking the Lord, that they were lucky enough to get picked to play football for a living.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: eamonn on December 16, 2010, 07:39:16 PM
Interesting how the banter stopped as soon as il gaffer walked-in. Richards seems to be the joker. Not surprised, he used to let some of the youth players do skids and handbrake turns in his latest flashy motor.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: nico2708 on December 16, 2010, 07:55:49 PM

they promised Tevez that he could keep the card he made  :) but decided to auction it off instead (another broken promise)  >:(

 is this why he handed in his tranfer request?????  :o :o 
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: Pete3206 on December 16, 2010, 08:02:52 PM
Oh do me a favour.

They work for 2 hours on a saturday and for 4 hours a day for 4 other days a week, totalling some 18 hours a week, for a wage of £100k a week.

I used to and know dozens of people that still do, work 18 hours a day for £15k a year.

And they have the temerity to complain that they get 'tired'.
They ought to be on their knees every day, thanking the Lord, that they were lucky enough to get picked to play football for a living.
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Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: joe_c on December 16, 2010, 11:23:13 PM
A mate of mine works for a print company that has just quoted £7,000 to produce a small set of invitation cards for Gareth Barry's 30th birthday party. Apparently they only need 250 but the cost is so high because the card uses special heat sensitive ink which changes colour when picked up.

Just imagine how much lard arse will be spending on the actual party!

PS - They apparently thought that the price was reasonable!!

The maître d’ stops by to say hello to Adebayor, then notices we don’t have our complimentary Bellinis, and runs off before any of us can stop him. I’m not sure how Adebayor knows Alain so well—maybe Cecelia?—and it slightly pisses me off but I decide to even up the score a little bit by showing everyone my new business card. I pull it out of my gazelleskin wallet (Barney’s, $850) and slap it on the table, waiting for reactions.
“What’s that, a gram?” De Jong says, not apathetically.
“New card.” I try to act casual about it but I’m smiling proudly. “What do you think?”
“Whoa,” Adebayor says, lifting it up, fingering the card, genuinely impressed. “Very nice. Take a look.” He hands it to Kompany.
“Picked them up from the printer’s yesterday,” I mention.
“Cool coloring,” Kompany says, studying the card closely.
“That’s bone,” I point out. “And the lettering is something called Silian Rail.”
“Silian Rail?” Adebayor asks.
“Yeah. Not bad, huh?”
“It is very cool, Barry,” Kompany says guardedly, the jealous bastard, “but that’s nothing….” He pulls out his wallet and slaps a card next to an ashtray. “Look at this.”
We all lean over and inspect Vincent’s card and De Jong quietly says, “That’s really nice.” A brief spasm of jealousy courses through me when I notice the elegance of the color and the classy type. I clench my fist as Kompany says, smugly, “Eggshell with Romalian type…” He turns to me. “What do you think?”
“Nice,” I croak, but manage to nod, as the busboy brings four fresh Bellinis.
“Jesus,” De Jong says, holding the card up to the light, ignoring the new drinks. “This is really super. How’d a nitwit like you get so tasteful?”
I’m looking at Kompany’s card and then at mine and cannot believe that De Jong actually likes Kompany’s better.
Dizzy, I sip my drink then take a deep breath.
“But wait,” De Jong says. “You ain’t seen nothin’ yet…” He pulls his out of an inside coat pocket and slowly, dramatically turns it over for our inspection and says, “Mine.”
Even I have to admit it’s magnificent.
Suddenly the restaurant seems far away, hushed, the noise distant, a meaningless hum, compared to this card, and we all hear De Jong’s words: “Raised lettering, pale nimbus white…”
“Holy shit,” Kompany exclaims. “I’ve never seen…”
“Nice, very nice,” I have to admit. “But wait. Let’s see Balotelli’s.”
De Jong pulls it out and though he’s acting nonchalant, I don’t see how he can ignore its subtle off-white coloring, its tasteful thickness. I am unexpectedly depressed that I started this.
“Pizza. Let’s order a pizza,” Adebayor says. “Doesn’t anyone want to split a pizza? Red snapper? Mmmmm. Barry wants that,” he says, rubbing his hands eagerly together.
I pick up Balotelli’s card and actually finger it, for the sensation the card gives off to the pads of my fingers.
“Nice, huh?” De Jong’s tone suggests he realizes I’m jealous.
“Yeah,” I say offhandedly, giving De Jong the card like I don’t give a shit, but I’m finding it hard to swallow.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: eamonn on December 17, 2010, 01:09:25 AM
Nice - all that Zola reading seems to have rubbed off. And you can actually imagine De Jong using the word ''nitwit''. Those kooky Dutch.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: willywombat on December 17, 2010, 09:10:46 AM
Shit really isnt it? The world really has gone completely mad. I remember having a chat with Frank Carrodous at the Elbow Room in the seventies and at the time I was earning more than him!! What chance of that now?
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: darren woolley on December 17, 2010, 09:56:29 AM
I got a friend who saves his loose change all year then donates it to children's charity's at christmas time.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 21, 2010, 11:45:33 AM
Nice to see what they think of James £26m Milner...

link (http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=201361)
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 21, 2010, 11:54:18 AM
When James peeked over the fence it wasn't greener grass he saw. It was just the colour of money...

Not so popular now it seems. He fits what we gave him for his career. It's a shame he didn't see it that way also.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 21, 2010, 11:58:27 AM
Nice to see what they think of James £26m Milner...

link (http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=201361)

Looking at some of the clowns on there you'd think Manchester City were Real Madrid circa 1960.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: Hookeysmith on December 21, 2010, 12:15:15 PM
Nice to see what they think of James £26m Milner...

link (http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=201361)

Looking at some of the clowns on there you'd think Manchester City were Real Madrid circa 1960.

Doesn't take long does it for the wankers to get on their high horses - shows how much they know all the fans i know told me Ireland was a superstar!!!
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: Hookeysmith on December 21, 2010, 12:16:52 PM
Oh and to add i have spoken to one or two Citeh fans and all they say is "yeah but look where we are in the league"

FFS for the money they have thrown around they should have had it won by now!
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: NeilH on December 21, 2010, 12:17:36 PM
Reading that you really do despair about the modern football fan. The comments on there and the behaviour of Tevez speak volumes about the modern game and what a horrible monster it is turning into.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: DB on December 21, 2010, 12:20:51 PM
Oh and to add i have spoken to one or two Citeh fans and all they say is "yeah but look where we are in the league"

FFS for the money they have thrown around they should have had it won by now!

I could hear the Everton fans yesterday singing "2-0 and we've spent f*ck all....", fair play.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: Merv on December 21, 2010, 12:21:14 PM
The last post on there (danp86) is bang on. Milner has his limitations as a footballer and until City start playing to his strengths, they'll never get the best out of him.

Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: Stu on December 21, 2010, 12:34:58 PM
The last post on there (danp86) is bang on. Milner has his limitations as a footballer and until City start playing to his strengths, they'll never get the best out of him.



No no, as one points out, Jimmy was an ok player in a shit team. A team that finished 3 points behind them last year. Shit indeed.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: Chris Smith on December 21, 2010, 12:44:00 PM
To be fair there were similar posts, if slightly less vitriolic, on here about Downing last season.

Now, he's our top scorer and in the Guardian today they do a round up of the season so far and in the stats section he's 2nd only to Bale in the number of crosses made and third overall in number of chances created.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: TheSandman on December 21, 2010, 04:49:43 PM
Interesting read that Bluemoon thread. They seem to be saying just about every player they have is lazy or disinterested. Perhaps a symptom of paying massive wages to mercenaries. That said some of the guys they criticise don't deserve it. I see Balotelli getting a lot of stick for being lazy. Yet, he's scored a decent number of goals in terms of his small number of appearances. I guess there is just no pleasing some people.

On Milner, they are just flagging a lot of concerns some of us on here had such as the lack of technique. BUT I still think he's a decent player and if he plays centrally rather than on the wing he could show that. I'm not sure if it will be at City though.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: Mister E on December 21, 2010, 05:13:48 PM
Reminds me of a shot from Playskool - without the same levels of intelligence, though.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: villa1 on December 21, 2010, 05:23:32 PM
Balotelli's a twat and deserves all the stick he gets. He's there for one reason, and one reason only. And it ain't trophies that top his list of priorities. Displays a shit attitude in matches.

In fairness to Milner, I moaned about him constantly in his first season with us. Came good after though.

Obviously it was because he was playing in a 'shit team' instead of the allmighty, all conquering Manchester Madrid.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: adrenachrome on December 21, 2010, 05:41:14 PM
For the period when Milner was out of form for us, it was clear to me that he was trying too hard. It would not surprise me, given the amount of money involved and the need to impress at Citeh, if the same thing is happening again. 

You would think that with all their dosh, Citeh would employ some psychologists. Maybe they should sack Mancini and give the gig to  Fat Sam: he was big on that kind of thing.

 
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: Brend'Watkins on December 21, 2010, 05:42:00 PM
The last post on there (danp86) is bang on. Milner has his limitations as a footballer and until City start playing to his strengths, they'll never get the best out of him.

That's the problem though.  Milner is better in the middle of the park than out wide therefore City will never get the best out of him as they wont give him the time to settle in a middle position.  It sounds as though he's going to become a very expensive squad player judging by some of those comments.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: VillaZogmariner on December 22, 2010, 12:08:55 AM
Nice to see what they think of James £26m Milner...

link (http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=201361)

Well if Man City want their £18m and Ireland back in return for Jimmy coming back here I'd be more than happy with that.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: BannedUserIAT on December 22, 2010, 03:07:50 AM
He was brought into Man City for two reasons:
1. To rock Villa's boat completely off course.
2. To play as a winger.

They have the cash to able to justify number (1) and, to a large degree, it's worked a charm.
But, whilst he's a quality player in the middle of the park, he's not world class. And that's what the Man City fans want. And, just like they want (dare I say it, need) to win a lot of things fast. they need players to settle fast. And it rarely happens.

It'll take a continued run in the middle of the park until the end of the season for Milner to get into the kind of form that he was in for us. Mancini, nor their arrogant fans will afford him that. He'll be 2nd (maybe 3rd) choice for the wing. Which, I suspect, means he'll be off soon enough.

Would pride stop him coming back to Villa Park?
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: martyn ellis on December 22, 2010, 10:47:42 AM
The whole shambles just shows how football is systematically destroying itself. It's littered with big money players under-performing out of position and just maybe wondering why they moved in the first place. Just imagine, you've finally discovered your best position, you're running the show in what everyone admits is 'a big club', you're already earning more in a week than most of us earn in a year, and then the toxic influence of the agent manages to convince you that you should move. The agent manages to squeeze even more from the well before it runs dry (and it surely will) to justify their existence in getting the best deal for their clients, the player moves to one of three or four clubs that can afford to lay out ever more disgusting amounts of money, and the rest of us play in a little league of our own, because all the best players are warming someone else's bench and wondering what to do with all that money. I think I've just talked myself out of next year's season ticket.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: olaftab on December 22, 2010, 11:08:53 PM
Pair of Twats couldn't careless about them. Left us for money so feckem.
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Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: ROBBO on December 23, 2010, 12:03:38 AM
It just mirrors the criticism of Ireland, we are no better than Man City supporters at least Milner wanted to go there Ireland on the other hand was given little choice. These players arn't robots he would have been absolutely choked to be kicked out of City and yet even though he is playing with strangers and in a totally different environment he is supposed to show his quality from day one. We were so quick to condemn Downing as the worst MON signing ever but would we sell him now? not on your life. I think you have to give new players a complete pre and full season before you can make an accurate assessment.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: VillaAlways on December 23, 2010, 12:21:02 AM
I would completely agree, apart from the fact that it's clear that unlike Downing last season the effort is not there he clearly can not give a toss
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: hawkeye on December 23, 2010, 12:50:45 AM
Downing looked like he could not give a toss last season, there have been games this season when you could say the same, regarding Ireland, he had the tripple wammy, new to the club, new to the manager and a makeweight in a deal to get Milner to Citeh, Ireland had not played first team football at first through injury and then because he could not get back into the citeh team following regime change. Downing would have considered joining us as a step up, for Ireland it was a step down. Then guess what he dosent perform, gets slagged by the manager and wants out-predictable?




Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: BannedUserIAT on December 23, 2010, 03:20:06 AM
I'd be tempted to agree with both Robbo and Hawkeye on this.
He's been bombed out of his club - a club e clearly has a lot of love for. To a large degree this will be humiliating for him, especially as they're flying high(ish) and we're down in the dregs. He's working in a new environment with new people with different standards.

Right, that's that load of shit out of the way!

He's a fucking (so called) professional footballer who gets paid about 4 million quid a year to be:
(a) professional and
(b) a footballer.

Does anyone see any more value than your average pub player who'd do it for next to nowt?
No, me neither.

Look at Vassell he did the same thing but in the opposite direction. Did he mope about like an insolent brat? Did he throw his toys out of the pram and act the ******? Did he fuck! In fact, every time he came up against us, HIS team, he hammered us. Bastard! :)

Sorry, but if Ireland was on minimum wage (or close to it), I'd have some degree of sympathy for him.
But, at 65,000 squid a week, he can cry me a fucking river! Twat!
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: Simba on December 23, 2010, 08:52:03 AM
Nice to see what they think of James £26m Milner...

link (http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=201361)


Blimey - and I thought we could be harsh. Plenty of commentry amongst them about being F---le too.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: damon loves JT on December 23, 2010, 08:58:32 AM
As for Ireland: I bet all of us have had to work for a new boss who didn't really rate us. Two choices: knuckle down and prove them wrong, or bugger off.

Good luck to him if he thinks he can get the same fat contract again.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: ROBBO on December 23, 2010, 09:03:32 AM
That's where the robot thingy cuts in, no matter how much they earn they are still susceptable to the same feelings as any ordinary mortal is. If you've ever been sacked how did you feel starting a new job, full of confidence were you? became instant friends with the other workers? didn't wish you were back with the company and workmates you spent the last ten years with? confidence has to be built over time as does everything else.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: damon loves JT on December 23, 2010, 10:15:03 AM
It is fecking horrendous. But in my case I had to earn a living, whatever it took. He has the luxury of being able to consider his disappointment and his poor hurt feelings. Bollocks to him.
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: stevenjos on December 24, 2010, 12:14:33 AM
Fair play to them. Man city keep their want away stars and will win things before we do.....
Title: Re: 2% Villa - Barry & Milner really do earn their money!
Post by: eamonn on December 24, 2010, 04:05:18 AM
Even if Ireland is a write-off I still think we can get a better player or two for the Milner money.
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