Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: VinnieChase84 on December 12, 2010, 06:26:25 PM
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Just been thinking about the rumours that were looking to offload big brad in Jan for a new keeper. Just seen gomes save a pen from drogba and got me wondering has brad ever saved a penalty for us? Sure he was not formidable at saving pens at Blackburn either? Out of all the keepers in the prem I'm sure 'he' must have the worst pen save ratio!?
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He saved this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xwBFpa4_Yk) when we played PSV Eindhoven.
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He saved one against Reading on his debut in a friendly IIRC, but I'm not sure he's ever saved on in a competitive game for us.
He's not a particulaly good shot stopper. His strengths are in other areas.
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If we ever get to a penalty shoot-out in which he is a starter and we have a sub left I would swap him for Guzan.
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If we ever get to a penalty shoot-out in which he is a starter and we have a sub left I would swap him for Guzan.
Guzan was fantastic in the league cup shoot out up in Sunderland last season, I don't know the rest of his game though.
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He saved this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xwBFpa4_Yk) when we played PSV Eindhoven.
Great.
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Who was in goal for the Del Piero pen?
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Guzan.
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Love it.
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saving penalties is a young man game and brad is not one of them
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Love it.
Same here. Always brings a smile,that 1.
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According to this hes been one of the best.
As at Aug 2009 he had saved 7 out of 23 in the previous 4 years.
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/blogs/mirror-football-blog/Mirror-mirror-on-the-wall-who-is-the-best-Premier-League-penalty-saver-of-them-all-article134227.html
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Good find, Mr Lochhead.
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As of Aug 2209, eh? How many has he faced and saved in competetive games for us? Ever since Guzan mentioned that he waited for the striker to hit the ball before he moved I've watched keepers and their penalty saving attempts and not only do keepers tend to go very early, you tend to find that most penalties that are taken are very rarely of the unsaveable variety - i.e. right into the corners.
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not only do keepers tend to go very early, you tend to find that most penalties that are taken are very rarely of the unsaveable variety - i.e. right into the corners.
One leads to the other though. You'll find that a lot of the ones that are stroked into the middle of the goal or that are seemingly easy are only put there once they have seen that the keeper is committed they are okay to take an 'easy' penalty.
If keepers started standing in the middle of the goal until they saw what was happening we would start to see a lot more belted to the corners.
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I'm not talking about standing there but as the player strikes the ball move in the direction that the ball is going towards. If the penalty is hit well enough it will go in anyway, if not it gives the keeper more of a chance to save it.
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I'm not talking about standing there but as the player strikes the ball move in the direction that the ball is going towards. If the penalty is hit well enough it will go in anyway, if not it gives the keeper more of a chance to save it.
I agree that it what they should do - but my previous post was an explanation as to why it looks like so many easy penalties seem to be scored.
If keepers started doing what we are suggesting then as I said - more will be blasted at the corners and keepers won't get close to them.
To argue against my own point though, I can't imagine that our idea hasn't occurred to two generations of goalkeeping coaches the world over.
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But it hasn't been successfully gotten over to keeper sthen as its still, pick a corner and guess'. Penalties will be scored more often than not, and the whole moving early came about to try and even up the competition for the keepers. Following on from that penalty-takers could wait for them to go and score simple looking spot kicks. But now the pendulum has swung the other way again, and players aren't just running up and hitting them then they should try waiting again. As for more being blasted at the corners, well surely that's what the keepers should want them to do, make them hit a penalty weel should they want to score it which hardly has to happen now.
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Peter, I'm not sure what you're arguing - as far as I can tell, we're in complete agreement.
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Just saying that penalty takers have got lazy in the art of penalty taking. Make them put it in the corner which keepers - and Brad Friedel - aren't doing at the moment. That's all. Nothing else to see here.
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I was thinking this after the SHA game and yep never saved one in a competitive game for us and he has faced a few.
Which is mad as he saved loads at Blackburn (including one against barry a few years ago) such as two in one game against Sheffield United in 06/07.
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I agree with Peter W that the players have got lazy in taking a penalty.