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Title: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Brigada1874 on December 06, 2010, 06:27:21 PM

full length version


shortened version

enjoy!
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: JJ-AV on December 06, 2010, 06:34:18 PM
Doing well so far, the 'Just Can't Get Enough' song you lot have got going is really good. Good luck for the future.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Brigada1874 on December 06, 2010, 06:38:33 PM
Doing well so far, the 'Just Can't Get Enough' song you lot have got going is really good. Good luck for the future.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 06, 2010, 06:42:10 PM
Good luck mate. Even if the middle bit of the second vid looks a bit like a Klan rally!
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Brigada1874 on December 06, 2010, 06:43:14 PM
Good luck mate. Even if the middle bit of the second vid looks a bit like a Klan rally!

Cheers, is that the bit in the dark? (Aston Park)
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 06, 2010, 06:53:41 PM
Yes, that's the bit.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Brigada1874 on December 06, 2010, 06:55:06 PM
Yes, that's the bit.

Yeah that bit does look a bit dodgy, not exactly how i planned it to look :D
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: london lion on December 06, 2010, 06:56:34 PM
Didnt see any of the Brigada lot making thereselves seen against blues
Wonder why that was ??
Oh,and if your going to have a "mission statement" that includes the mantra that you are non sectarian,then it may be for the best if you break your ties with the green brigade at Celtic
That would be the green brigade that held up that hatefull banner about poppies at celtic park.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Brigada1874 on December 06, 2010, 06:59:46 PM
Didnt see any of the Brigada lot making thereselves seen against blues
Wonder why that was ??
Oh,and if your going to have a "mission statement" that includes the mantra that you are non sectarian,then it may be for the best if you break your ties with the green brigade at Celtic
That would be the green brigade that held up that hatefull banner about poppies at celtic park.

We had a banner and streamers at the Sty how else do you want us to make ourselves seen?
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: london lion on December 06, 2010, 07:03:04 PM
You tell me ? Your the ones who want to be Ultra Villa fans.
Oh and you swerved the question in relation to your love in with our troop haters.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Brigada1874 on December 06, 2010, 07:06:50 PM
You tell me ? Your the ones who want to be Ultra Villa fans.
Oh and you swerved the question in relation to your love in with our troop haters.

No you tell me what you wanted us to do at the Sty as you brought it up!

Not swerving any questions we don't have a love in or links to any other groups, some of our members know members of the Green Brigade but some of our members know members of other groups but nobody seems to want to mention that.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: darren woolley on December 06, 2010, 07:07:49 PM
Good luck for the future nice Video.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 06, 2010, 07:08:53 PM
You tell me ? Your the ones who want to be Ultra Villa fans.
Oh and you swerved the question in relation to your love in with our troop haters.

So you think the only way for them to show themselves as proper Villa fans is to run on the pitch and smash the place up? I think Brigada1874 has posted on a few threads that they're not supposed to be a hoolie group.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: london lion on December 06, 2010, 07:17:53 PM
You tell me ? Your the ones who want to be Ultra Villa fans.
Oh and you swerved the question in relation to your love in with our troop haters.

So you think the only way for them to show themselves as proper Villa fans is to run on the pitch and smash the place up? I think Brigada1874 has posted on a few threads that they're not supposed to be a hoolie group.

Bloody hell thats a hell of a tangent you've gone off on there,drop me a pm and i'll give you directions back to the topic.
Look,this brigada 1874 nonsence have big links to the green brigade,if you want them sat by you then thats your shout (although with the prices of season tickets in the trinity upper,i shouldnt think they will get anywhere near the villa park elite)
Oh and if your gonna critisize the taking of flares to football matches then you have to do it across the board,whether it be lobbing one around against the rags or jumping around in Aston park with one.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: K3Villa on December 06, 2010, 07:18:41 PM
Hmmmmmm...interesting use of flares in Aston Park there.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Brigada1874 on December 06, 2010, 07:21:57 PM
You tell me ? Your the ones who want to be Ultra Villa fans.
Oh and you swerved the question in relation to your love in with our troop haters.

So you think the only way for them to show themselves as proper Villa fans is to run on the pitch and smash the place up? I think Brigada1874 has posted on a few threads that they're not supposed to be a hoolie group.

Bloody hell thats a hell of a tangent you've gone off on there,drop me a pm and i'll give you directions back to the topic.
Look,this brigada 1874 nonsence have big links to the green brigade,if you want them sat by you then thats your shout (although with the prices of season tickets in the trinity upper,i shouldnt think they will get anywhere near the villa park elite)
Oh and if your gonna critisize the taking of flares to football matches then you have to do it across the board,whether it be lobbing one around against the rags or jumping around in Aston park with one.

jumping around an empty park with a flare is a lot different than throwing it around a packed football stadium.

big links with the green brigade? please explain this
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: damon loves JT on December 06, 2010, 07:23:33 PM
*draws up a chair*
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: london lion on December 06, 2010, 07:25:23 PM
Hmmmmmm...interesting use of flares in Aston Park there.

I think i know what your getting at there,these flares are so easy to get hold off that please dont put 2 and 2 together and get 22.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: K3Villa on December 06, 2010, 07:26:15 PM
Hmmmmmm...interesting use of flares in Aston Park there.

I think i know what your getting at there,these flares are so easy to get hold off that please dont put 2 and 2 together and get 22.

I know. I'm shit stirring.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 06, 2010, 07:30:17 PM
You tell me ? Your the ones who want to be Ultra Villa fans.
Oh and you swerved the question in relation to your love in with our troop haters.

So you think the only way for them to show themselves as proper Villa fans is to run on the pitch and smash the place up? I think Brigada1874 has posted on a few threads that they're not supposed to be a hoolie group.

Bloody hell thats a hell of a tangent you've gone off on there,drop me a pm and i'll give you directions back to the topic.
Look,this brigada 1874 nonsence have big links to the green brigade,if you want them sat by you then thats your shout (although with the prices of season tickets in the trinity upper,i shouldnt think they will get anywhere near the villa park elite)
Oh and if your gonna critisize the taking of flares to football matches then you have to do it across the board,whether it be lobbing one around against the rags or jumping around in Aston park with one.


The topic, which you raised, was what should they have done against Blues? Your post seemed to imply that you thought they should be confronting Blues fans acting like a bunch of hooligans. There is a huge difference between 'jumping around in Aston Park' with a flare and lobbing it at someone, surprised you can't see that.

I couldn't care less about the alleged Green Brigade links. However, if other people feel so strongly about it too maybe they could discuss possibly disassociating themselves from them at their next meeting?


Do Ultras have meetings?
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Brigada1874 on December 06, 2010, 07:31:10 PM
Hmmmmmm...interesting use of flares in Aston Park there.

I think i know what your getting at there,these flares are so easy to get hold off that please dont put 2 and 2 together and get 22.

no there really hard to get hold of ::)

http://www.cosmicfireworks.com/product_full.asp?name=Coloured+Flares&code=1288
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: london lion on December 06, 2010, 07:37:03 PM
You tell me ? Your the ones who want to be Ultra Villa fans.
Oh and you swerved the question in relation to your love in with our troop haters.

So you think the only way for them to show themselves as proper Villa fans is to run on the pitch and smash the place up? I think Brigada1874 has posted on a few threads that they're not supposed to be a hoolie group.

Bloody hell thats a hell of a tangent you've gone off on there,drop me a pm and i'll give you directions back to the topic.
Look,this brigada 1874 nonsence have big links to the green brigade,if you want them sat by you then thats your shout (although with the prices of season tickets in the trinity upper,i shouldnt think they will get anywhere near the villa park elite)
Oh and if your gonna critisize the taking of flares to football matches then you have to do it across the board,whether it be lobbing one around against the rags or jumping around in Aston park with one.

jumping around an empty park with a flare is a lot different than throwing it around a packed football stadium.

big links with the green brigade? please explain this

A little while back you had an influx of new posters join your banter board who asked qestions that you or whoever your board admin is didnt like/want to answer as they were asking pointed questions in relation to the links i posted about
Strangley,you decided to ban the posters rather than answer the questions,why was that ?
The posters i speak of were happy to have a decent discussion about your links so were shocked to find out they had been banned but then when a bit of digging behind the scenes of your organisation was done in relation as to who the main players are it quickly became apparent why the questions were uncmfortable to answer
I can go into it on here if you want,i'd rather not as it's not really the place,but its up to you and of course the learned Mr Woodhall
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Brigada1874 on December 06, 2010, 07:42:22 PM
You tell me ? Your the ones who want to be Ultra Villa fans.
Oh and you swerved the question in relation to your love in with our troop haters.

So you think the only way for them to show themselves as proper Villa fans is to run on the pitch and smash the place up? I think Brigada1874 has posted on a few threads that they're not supposed to be a hoolie group.

Bloody hell thats a hell of a tangent you've gone off on there,drop me a pm and i'll give you directions back to the topic.
Look,this brigada 1874 nonsence have big links to the green brigade,if you want them sat by you then thats your shout (although with the prices of season tickets in the trinity upper,i shouldnt think they will get anywhere near the villa park elite)
Oh and if your gonna critisize the taking of flares to football matches then you have to do it across the board,whether it be lobbing one around against the rags or jumping around in Aston park with one.

jumping around an empty park with a flare is a lot different than throwing it around a packed football stadium.

big links with the green brigade? please explain this

A little while back you had an influx of new posters join your banter board who asked qestions that you or whoever your board admin is didnt like/want to answer as they were asking pointed questions in relation to the links i posted about
Strangley,you decided to ban the posters rather than answer the questions,why was that ?
The posters i speak of were happy to have a decent discussion about your links so were shocked to find out they had been banned but then when a bit of digging behind the scenes of your organisation was done in relation as to who the main players are it quickly became apparent why the questions were uncmfortable to answer
I can go into it on here if you want,i'd rather not as it's not really the place,but its up to you and of course the learned Mr Woodhall

You are joking right? Are we talking about people who filled the board with shite and threats of violence, no-one was banned from the site for asking any questions and if you are/were a member of our forum you would know that.

Now the part about the "main players" of the group is completely laughable your at it big time!
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on December 06, 2010, 07:46:03 PM
Why on the video are all of your faces hidden?

If it's kids on the video, then I can understand it, but why hide your faces?
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Brigada1874 on December 06, 2010, 07:47:20 PM
Why on the video are all of your faces hidden?

If it's kids on the video, then I can understand it, but why hide your faces?

quite a few on the video are/were under 16
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on December 06, 2010, 07:51:36 PM
Why on the video are all of your faces hidden?

If it's kids on the video, then I can understand it, but why hide your faces?

The others? -

quite a few on the video are/were under 16
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Brigada1874 on December 06, 2010, 07:55:58 PM
Why on the video are all of your faces hidden?

If it's kids on the video, then I can understand it, but why hide your faces?

The others? -

quite a few on the video are/were under 16

obviously over 16 :D
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: london lion on December 06, 2010, 07:57:17 PM
You tell me ? Your the ones who want to be Ultra Villa fans.
Oh and you swerved the question in relation to your love in with our troop haters.

So you think the only way for them to show themselves as proper Villa fans is to run on the pitch and smash the place up? I think Brigada1874 has posted on a few threads that they're not supposed to be a hoolie group.

Bloody hell thats a hell of a tangent you've gone off on there,drop me a pm and i'll give you directions back to the topic.
Look,this brigada 1874 nonsence have big links to the green brigade,if you want them sat by you then thats your shout (although with the prices of season tickets in the trinity upper,i shouldnt think they will get anywhere near the villa park elite)
Oh and if your gonna critisize the taking of flares to football matches then you have to do it across the board,whether it be lobbing one around against the rags or jumping around in Aston park with one.

jumping around an empty park with a flare is a lot different than throwing it around a packed football stadium.

big links with the green brigade? please explain this

A little while back you had an influx of new posters join your banter board who asked qestions that you or whoever your board admin is didnt like/want to answer as they were asking pointed questions in relation to the links i posted about
Strangley,you decided to ban the posters rather than answer the questions,why was that ?
The posters i speak of were happy to have a decent discussion about your links so were shocked to find out they had been banned but then when a bit of digging behind the scenes of your organisation was done in relation as to who the main players are it quickly became apparent why the questions were uncmfortable to answer
I can go into it on here if you want,i'd rather not as it's not really the place,but its up to you and of course the learned Mr Woodhall

You are joking right? Are we talking about people who filled the board with shite and threats of violence, no-one was banned from the site for asking any questions and if you are/were a member of our forum you would know that.

Now the part about the "main players" of the group is completely laughable your at it big time!

Now now, think about what your saying ,there wasnt any threats of violence so stop playing up to the crowd on here,i was banned for asking questions as to why any person in there right mind would want to be associated with the green brigade and all they stand for when again, your mantra is against fascism,sectarianism etc
Thats the same green brigade who seem to forget the scarifices our forefathers made to assure that the same fascism and sectarianism was routed in the 2nd world war.
It seems to me that if your going to have a misssion statement for any supporters group you may want to think it out and try to stick to it.
And as comment about your main players,facebook is a wonderfull tool to incriminate yourself with if you dont know how to handle it
Thats all im saying on the matter at this present time as the game is about to kick off,but we can pick it up again when were 4-0 down if you insist ?
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: TheSandman on December 06, 2010, 07:58:29 PM
Can you please explain the links to the Green Brigade?
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: london lion on December 06, 2010, 08:05:14 PM
Can you please explain the links to the Green Brigade?

And if you do,dont give us the half baked version
Tell it like it really is with your green brothers (looks for the puking smilie)
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Brigada1874 on December 06, 2010, 08:09:40 PM
Can you please explain the links to the Green Brigade?

As i've said earlier in this thread

Quote
Not swerving any questions we don't have a love in or links to any other groups, some of our members know members of the Green Brigade but some of our members know members of other groups but nobody seems to want to mention that.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: myf on December 06, 2010, 08:14:50 PM
I say fair play that some people want to get organised and create more of an atmosphere.  Its needed at VP.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Trinitymiddle on December 06, 2010, 08:47:37 PM
Well done lads. Ignore the moaners. Glad someone is doing something to create a better atmosphere down VP and at away days.
Some people on here may not agree with the politics of the Green Brigade, but the banners and flags at Parkhead are an amazing sight. If you could do half of that it would make VP even more special on match days.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: bruisedshins on December 06, 2010, 09:00:29 PM
Alright, member of the group here. I'd just like to reiterate what Brigada1874 has stated. We have no links to Gren Brigade or any other ultra groups in England or abroad but some members are mates with Green Brigade members.

The only people who have been banned from our forums are those that threatening language towards the group or forum members or those who constantly used sectarian language to wind up other posters.

Cheers for the support!
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: london lion on December 06, 2010, 09:04:51 PM
Well done lads. Ignore the moaners. Glad someone is doing something to create a better atmosphere down VP and at away days.
Some people on here may not agree with the politics of the Green Brigade, but the banners and flags at Parkhead are an amazing sight. If you could do half of that it would make VP even more special on match days.

The banners and flags at parkhead are an amazing sight.!!!!!!!!!!!!
You truly,truly disgust me.
How can any self respecting villa supporter think its ok to associate with those who  mock and vilify our serving men and women
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: london lion on December 06, 2010, 09:06:42 PM
Alright, member of the group here. I'd just like to reiterate what Brigada1874 has stated. We have no links to Gren Brigade or any other ultra groups in England or abroad but some members are mates with Green Brigade members.

The only people who have been banned from our forums are those that threatening language towards the group or forum members or those who constantly used sectarian language to wind up other posters.

Cheers for the support!

Gulity by association...
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Brigada1874 on December 06, 2010, 09:08:04 PM
Alright, member of the group here. I'd just like to reiterate what Brigada1874 has stated. We have no links to Gren Brigade or any other ultra groups in England or abroad but some members are mates with Green Brigade members.

The only people who have been banned from our forums are those that threatening language towards the group or forum members or those who constantly used sectarian language to wind up other posters.

Cheers for the support!

Gulity by association...

what was your username on our forum?
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Trinitymiddle on December 06, 2010, 09:16:13 PM
Well done lads. Ignore the moaners. Glad someone is doing something to create a better atmosphere down VP and at away days.
Some people on here may not agree with the politics of the Green Brigade, but the banners and flags at Parkhead are an amazing sight. If you could do half of that it would make VP even more special on match days.

The banners and flags at parkhead are an amazing sight.!!!!!!!!!!!!
You truly,truly disgust me.
How can any self respecting villa supporter think its ok to associate with those who  mock and vilify our serving men and women

I wasn't referring to the poppy banner that you seem so obsessed with. I was on about all the other ones that they make, and there are dozens and dozens of them. Why dont you have a look at them? There are many photos of them on the internet, and they are not just by the Green Brigade, but also the Jungle Bhoys.
Also, I wasn't aware that I had assoiated myself with anyone, so stop putting words in my mouth.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: london lion on December 06, 2010, 09:20:08 PM
Alright, member of the group here. I'd just like to reiterate what Brigada1874 has stated. We have no links to Gren Brigade or any other ultra groups in England or abroad but some members are mates with Green Brigade members.

The only people who have been banned from our forums are those that threatening language towards the group or forum members or those who constantly used sectarian language to wind up other posters.

Cheers for the support!

Gulity by association...

what was your username on our forum?

It doesnt matter what my username was,what is the truth is that never once did i post any threatening words or statements on your site,all i did was kept asking the same question which was
If your mission is to promote anti fascism,anti sectarianism etc will you publicly denounce your members who have links to the green brigade.
The answer to my repeated,pointed question was to be banned from the forum
How very undemocratic for an group that promotes inclusion to all Villa supporters (or maybe just the brainwashed sort that tommy docherty once made a very famous quote about)
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: london lion on December 06, 2010, 09:25:27 PM
Well done lads. Ignore the moaners. Glad someone is doing something to create a better atmosphere down VP and at away days.
Some people on here may not agree with the politics of the Green Brigade, but the banners and flags at Parkhead are an amazing sight. If you could do half of that it would make VP even more special on match days.

The banners and flags at parkhead are an amazing sight.!!!!!!!!!!!!
You truly,truly disgust me.
How can any self respecting villa supporter think its ok to associate with those who  mock and vilify our serving men and women

I wasn't referring to the poppy banner that you seem so obsessed with. I was on about all the other ones that they make, and there are dozens and dozens of them. Why dont you have a look at them? There are many photos of them on the internet, and they are not just by the Green Brigade, but also the Jungle Bhoys.
Also, I wasn't aware that I had assoiated myself with anyone, so stop putting words in my mouth.

Again guilt by association,they made the banner,your saying the banners and what they stand for, are to use your words "an amazing sight"
So whats your real opinion,and just remember fella,you cant be 50 per cent pregnant.

Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Brigada1874 on December 06, 2010, 09:25:44 PM
Alright, member of the group here. I'd just like to reiterate what Brigada1874 has stated. We have no links to Gren Brigade or any other ultra groups in England or abroad but some members are mates with Green Brigade members.

The only people who have been banned from our forums are those that threatening language towards the group or forum members or those who constantly used sectarian language to wind up other posters.

Cheers for the support!

Gulity by association...

what was your username on our forum?

It doesnt matter what my username was,what is the truth is that never once did i post any threatening words or statements on your site,all i did was kept asking the same question which was
If your mission is to promote anti fascism,anti sectarianism etc will you publicly denounce your members who have links to the green brigade.
The answer to my repeated,pointed question was to be banned from the forum
How very undemocratic for an group that promotes inclusion to all Villa supporters (or maybe just the brainwashed sort that tommy docherty once made a very famous quote about)

If that was the case why not tell me your user-name? I know for a fact I never banned anyone for asking a question, now that leaves only 2 others that have banned people and they haven't banned anyone for asking a question! So either tell me what your user-name was or quit the unsubstantiated rubbish you keep spouting!
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Dave on December 06, 2010, 09:28:19 PM
It doesnt matter what my username was,what is the truth is that never once did i post any threatening words or statements on your site,all i did was kept asking the same question which was
If your mission is to promote anti fascism,anti sectarianism etc will you publicly denounce your members who have links to the green brigade.
That must have been almost as tedious as you asking the same question over and over again on here is getting.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Trinitymiddle on December 06, 2010, 09:33:22 PM
Well done lads. Ignore the moaners. Glad someone is doing something to create a better atmosphere down VP and at away days.
Some people on here may not agree with the politics of the Green Brigade, but the banners and flags at Parkhead are an amazing sight. If you could do half of that it would make VP even more special on match days.

The banners and flags at parkhead are an amazing sight.!!!!!!!!!!!!
You truly,truly disgust me.
How can any self respecting villa supporter think its ok to associate with those who  mock and vilify our serving men and women

I wasn't referring to the poppy banner that you seem so obsessed with. I was on about all the other ones that they make, and there are dozens and dozens of them. Why dont you have a look at them? There are many photos of them on the internet, and they are not just by the Green Brigade, but also the Jungle Bhoys.
Also, I wasn't aware that I had assoiated myself with anyone, so stop putting words in my mouth.

Again guilt by association,they made the banner,your saying the banners and what they stand for, are to use your words "an amazing sight"
So whats your real opinion,and just remember fella,you cant be 50 per cent pregnant.



As I said before, I was referring to the other banners at Parkhead, but that doesn/t suit your angry rant so you choose to ignore it.
I dont have to justify what I think to you, and to be quite honest I cant be bothered. You seem like the sort to start an argument in a phone box so I'll leave you to it.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: london lion on December 06, 2010, 09:39:15 PM
Alright, member of the group here. I'd just like to reiterate what Brigada1874 has stated. We have no links to Gren Brigade or any other ultra groups in England or abroad but some members are mates with Green Brigade members.

The only people who have been banned from our forums are those that threatening language towards the group or forum members or those who constantly used sectarian language to wind up other posters.

Cheers for the support!

Gulity by association...

what was your username on our forum?

It doesnt matter what my username was,what is the truth is that never once did i post any threatening words or statements on your site,all i did was kept asking the same question which was
If your mission is to promote anti fascism,anti sectarianism etc will you publicly denounce your members who have links to the green brigade.
The answer to my repeated,pointed question was to be banned from the forum
How very undemocratic for an group that promotes inclusion to all Villa supporters (or maybe just the brainwashed sort that tommy docherty once made a very famous quote about)

If that was the case why not tell me your user-name? I know for a fact I never banned anyone for asking a question, now that leaves only 2 others that have banned people and they haven't banned anyone for asking a question! So either tell me what your user-name was or quit the unsubstantiated rubbish you keep spouting!

Again it doesnt matter,it was a username that i use on various other forums other than here,you say what i'm saying is unsubstantiated,you on the face of things could take that line,but its swings and roundabouts as your saying you didnt ban me for asking you to denounce your green brigade sympathisers,but yes you did.
Your group has links to a group that condones the singing of IRA songs,displaying of anti british troop banners and various other disgusting behaviour,you've admitted it in so many words and i should imagine that because the mental aptitude of most of the users of the heroes and villains website is generally quite high,they will abhor what you have admitted.
Supporting Aston Villa is a broad congregation,Black,white,male,female,gay,straight are all welcome,what most brummies wont accept is a group that thinks that its ok to be friendly with others who support those who killed our families,loved ones etc in the pub bombings many years ago.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: london lion on December 06, 2010, 09:41:51 PM
It doesnt matter what my username was,what is the truth is that never once did i post any threatening words or statements on your site,all i did was kept asking the same question which was
If your mission is to promote anti fascism,anti sectarianism etc will you publicly denounce your members who have links to the green brigade.
That must have been almost as tedious as you asking the same question over and over again on here is getting.

Oh right,so if i keep posting Houllier out,will i get banned because it doesnt follow the hero and villain mantra that everything in the garden is rosy.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 06, 2010, 09:42:56 PM
No you won't. When did Dave threaten to ban you? He just said you were tedious, which you clearly are.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Dave on December 06, 2010, 09:43:37 PM
It doesnt matter what my username was,what is the truth is that never once did i post any threatening words or statements on your site,all i did was kept asking the same question which was
If your mission is to promote anti fascism,anti sectarianism etc will you publicly denounce your members who have links to the green brigade.
That must have been almost as tedious as you asking the same question over and over again on here is getting.

Oh right,so if i keep posting Houllier out,will i get banned because it doesnt follow the hero and villain mantra that everything in the garden is rosy.
Impeccable logic.

You won't get banned for repeatedly posting anything. It doesn't mean that it's particularly interesting though.

He's answered your question, you don't like his answer. Surely you don't need to ask it another dozen times?
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: london lion on December 06, 2010, 09:48:04 PM
It doesnt matter what my username was,what is the truth is that never once did i post any threatening words or statements on your site,all i did was kept asking the same question which was
If your mission is to promote anti fascism,anti sectarianism etc will you publicly denounce your members who have links to the green brigade.
That must have been almost as tedious as you asking the same question over and over again on here is getting.

Oh right,so if i keep posting Houllier out,will i get banned because it doesnt follow the hero and villain mantra that everything in the garden is rosy.
Impeccable logic.

You won't get banned for repeatedly posting anything. It doesn't mean that it's particularly interesting though.

He's answered your question, you don't like his answer. Surely you don't need to ask it another dozen times?
If you dont like the thread content,dont read it,quite simple really.
And he's far from answered my question,just tried to gloss over it in reality
But if you think ive been harsh on him and his I.R.A supporting pals for asking him to denounce them,well you know what ?your welcome to them.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Brigada1874 on December 06, 2010, 09:50:23 PM
Alright, member of the group here. I'd just like to reiterate what Brigada1874 has stated. We have no links to Gren Brigade or any other ultra groups in England or abroad but some members are mates with Green Brigade members.

The only people who have been banned from our forums are those that threatening language towards the group or forum members or those who constantly used sectarian language to wind up other posters.

Cheers for the support!

Gulity by association...

what was your username on our forum?

It doesnt matter what my username was,what is the truth is that never once did i post any threatening words or statements on your site,all i did was kept asking the same question which was
If your mission is to promote anti fascism,anti sectarianism etc will you publicly denounce your members who have links to the green brigade.
The answer to my repeated,pointed question was to be banned from the forum
How very undemocratic for an group that promotes inclusion to all Villa supporters (or maybe just the brainwashed sort that tommy docherty once made a very famous quote about)

If that was the case why not tell me your user-name? I know for a fact I never banned anyone for asking a question, now that leaves only 2 others that have banned people and they haven't banned anyone for asking a question! So either tell me what your user-name was or quit the unsubstantiated rubbish you keep spouting!

Again it doesnt matter,it was a username that i use on various other forums other than here,you say what i'm saying is unsubstantiated,you on the face of things could take that line,but its swings and roundabouts as your saying you didnt ban me for asking you to denounce your green brigade sympathisers,but yes you did.
Your group has links to a group that condones the singing of IRA songs,displaying of anti british troop banners and various other disgusting behaviour,you've admitted it in so many words and i should imagine that because the mental aptitude of most of the users of the heroes and villains website is generally quite high,they will abhor what you have admitted.
Supporting Aston Villa is a broad congregation,Black,white,male,female,gay,straight are all welcome,what most brummies wont accept is a group that thinks that its ok to be friendly with others who support those who killed our families,loved ones etc in the pub bombings many years ago.

We both know you weren't banned for asking a question, as for the rest of the post it's utter shite! So lets leave it at that!
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Perry Barr Pet on December 06, 2010, 10:39:11 PM
[Supporting Aston Villa is a broad congregation,Black,white,male,female,gay,straight are all welcome,what most brummies wont accept is a group that thinks that its ok to be friendly with others who support those who killed our families,loved ones etc in the pub bombings many years ago.
[/quote]

Totally with you there LL.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: bruisedshins on December 06, 2010, 10:55:58 PM
[Supporting Aston Villa is a broad congregation,Black,white,male,female,gay,straight are all welcome,what most brummies wont accept is a group that thinks that its ok to be friendly with others who support those who killed our families,loved ones etc in the pub bombings many years ago.

Totally with you there LL.
[/quote]

I've got a couple of mates in the Green Brigade who i know through football and none of them support the IRA. Obviously you don't like something about the group LL, that's fair enough, but don't go about making straw men in an attempt to tarnish us.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: dcdavecollett on December 07, 2010, 12:38:36 AM
So, in the spirit of denouncing the IRA and its terrorism, no-one, of course, would choose to support an organisation that gunned down unarmed civilians on Bloody Sunday.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 07, 2010, 12:42:10 AM
into it on here if you want,i'd rather not as it's not really the place,but its up to you and of course the learned Mr Woodhall

What have I got to do with it?
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on December 07, 2010, 01:22:20 AM
So in response to my earlier question, why have the faces of the people in the videos had their faces blacked out? I appreciate that kids is fair enough, but those old enough? What are their reasons?
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Brigada1874 on December 07, 2010, 08:24:17 AM
So, in the spirit of denouncing the IRA and its terrorism, no-one, of course, would choose to support an organisation that gunned down unarmed civilians on Bloody Sunday.

Look Im not being funny but if you want to debate the IRA or the British government can you start your own thread we have nothing to do with the IRA and no links to anyone let anyone that supports them!

PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt - What is the obsession with this?


See this is the thing that winds us up! All we wanna do is try and improve the atmosphere at VP but some people just keep trying to look for things that aren't there! We didn't/don't except everyone to support us but the mudslinging is just ridiculous!
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: TimTheVillain on December 07, 2010, 08:50:36 AM
I say fair play that some people want to get organised and create more of an atmosphere.  Its needed at VP.

This.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: willywombat on December 07, 2010, 08:53:31 AM
Yup, go for it boys
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: tremzvillain on December 07, 2010, 08:59:06 AM
So, in the spirit of denouncing the IRA and its terrorism, no-one, of course, would choose to support an organisation that gunned down unarmed civilians on Bloody Sunday.

Look Im not being funny but if you want to debate the IRA or the British government can you start your own thread we have nothing to do with the IRA and no links to anyone let anyone that supports them!

PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt - What is the obsession with this?


See this is the thing that winds us up! All we wanna do is try and improve the atmosphere at VP but some people just keep trying to look for things that aren't there! We didn't/don't except everyone to support us but the mudslinging is just ridiculous!



Then ignore it, and just concentrate on corresponding with those who support your attempts to improve the atmosphere at VP.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Dave Cooper please on December 07, 2010, 10:11:31 AM
This is a remakablt tedious thread!

Look, what happens is that a few supporters of a club start up an "Ultra" group, then they advertise their website / forum across t'internet, and members of other Ultra groups inevitably get in touch, some decent, others with an undesirable element.

Unless our own Brigada1874 start to play up or display unwanted banners at our games than I suggest you just leave them to it, if you don't like some of the stuff on their forum - don't visit their forum!
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Brigada1874 on December 07, 2010, 01:21:11 PM
This is a remakablt tedious thread!

Look, what happens is that a few supporters of a club start up an "Ultra" group, then they advertise their website / forum across t'internet, and members of other Ultra groups inevitably get in touch, some decent, others with an undesirable element.

Unless our own Brigada1874 start to play up or display unwanted banners at our games than I suggest you just leave them to it, if you don't like some of the stuff on their forum - don't visit their forum!

I can assure you won't be playing up any time soon and any banners/displays will be purely about Villa past and present!
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: DeKuip on December 07, 2010, 03:54:57 PM
Good luck to you lads - it's good to see a group of fans with a positive attitude, so don't let us miserable old bastards put you off doing what you're doing. Any effort to improve the atmosphere at games should be applauded.
I believe the PRIDE OF BRUM flag in the Railway End last week was yours, good on you!

Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Brigada1874 on December 07, 2010, 03:59:28 PM
Good luck to you lads - it's good to see a group of fans with a positive attitude, so don't let us miserable old bastards put you off doing what you're doing. Any effort to improve the atmosphere at games should be applauded.
I believe the PRIDE OF BRUM flag in the Railway End last week was yours, good on you!

Cheers for the support!

Yeah was our banner but it's disappeared without trace  :(
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Lew Chatterleys Lover on December 07, 2010, 08:07:56 PM
My first contribution to this board and I want to use it to say Good Luck to Brigada 1874. I'm a bit of an old school codger, as some will gather from the name, but I'm all for the young guns making a bleedin racket and doing everything (within the law) to stir things up and create a buzz at games.

Don't let cynics put you off lads and don't get downcast by misjudged criticism about links to other groups. There's plenty of room for the car-rug-and-flask merchants in the upper Trinity. We need zealots, we need one-eyed nutters and we need cheery loudmouths roaring the boys on.

Keep the faith and keep the Lions flag flying high!
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: Percy McCarthy on December 08, 2010, 06:16:39 AM
Welcome and well said LCL.
Title: Re: Brigada 1874: Starting Out Video
Post by: TimTheVillain on December 08, 2010, 08:12:45 AM
My first contribution to this board and I want to use it to say Good Luck to Brigada 1874. I'm a bit of an old school codger, as some will gather from the name, but I'm all for the young guns making a bleedin racket and doing everything (within the law) to stir things up and create a buzz at games.

Don't let cynics put you off lads and don't get downcast by misjudged criticism about links to other groups. There's plenty of room for the car-rug-and-flask merchants in the upper Trinity. We need zealots, we need one-eyed nutters and we need cheery loudmouths roaring the boys on.

Keep the faith and keep the Lions flag flying high!

Nice one matey.
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