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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: JJ-AV on December 01, 2010, 09:52:58 PM

Title: Positivity
Post by: JJ-AV on December 01, 2010, 09:52:58 PM
Take the individual errors away, look at the performance on its on as a sign of how far we've come.

We kept the ball so well, played it from the back, didn't lump it until the death.

Gerard's slowly working his tactics. Once he gets a centre forward, centre mid and centre half in, we'll be back up in the mix again.

If they draw Arsenal in the semis, it won't have meant much in the grand scheme of things. They were due one, lets just regroup and stay positive.
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: itbrvilla on December 01, 2010, 09:54:51 PM
WE lumped it up the pitch throughout.  Same players as usual..... Dunne and Collins.
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: mygardenshed1982 on December 01, 2010, 10:00:38 PM
I agree.. staying positive is key. The football we played tonight was excellent at times. Yes okay it wasn't hugely incisive but the scum just play to stop the opposition playing. Under MON, we would never have kept the ball like tonight. Some might say under MON we would have won but we'll never know. The fact is, I am happy under Ged so far. I think he has the right ethos that, given the backing will allow us to go further. Completely gutted about losing to that shower, but on the whole and taking in to account the injuries we have, we have to see the positives.
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: myf on December 01, 2010, 10:04:16 PM
WE lumped it up the pitch throughout.  Same players as usual..... Dunne and Collins.

Did we balls!  We played some nice football and some good counter attacks.
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: The Left Side on December 01, 2010, 10:05:30 PM
I liked the movement of Bannan, Hogg and Clark and Ashley enjoys playing with Gabby ahead of him, Ireland just needs a good performance or a goal and his confidence will hopefully go through the roof.
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: TimTheVillain on December 01, 2010, 10:07:45 PM
Luke Young and Warnock are crap passers of the ball.

Dunne is awful at the the moment - he's overweight and should be training hard to get back to fitness.

Ash is not giving what we all look for from him, an edge around the box.

WE had loads of possession, but look clueless in the final third and low in confidence.



Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 01, 2010, 10:07:47 PM
We certainly didn't lump it and as I said in the match thread Bannan can be our 'Iniesta'. However we need to start winning games.
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: E I Adio on December 01, 2010, 10:12:55 PM
WE lumped it up the pitch throughout.  Same players as usual..... Dunne and Collins.
We generally don't lump it out of defence now, but a special mention to Warnock, whose lump up the field straight to a Bloose player led to the winning goal.
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: Rico on December 01, 2010, 10:18:56 PM
I don't know what the final stats for the whole game were, but on possession alone we mullered them. I bet it must have been 60 - 40. Going forward we look good. Really good. But! And it's a big but, you'll never win anything if you can't defend. Don't know what has happened to Dunne and Collins, but they were awful tonight. On the positive side our football going forward looks great. With a bit of time and some new additions up front and at the back then we'll be going places! I know losing to them is never good, but you can tell from their reaction at the final whistle, they know they've got away with murder. Let them have their 5 minutes of joy. Remember form is temporary, class is permanent. And they will forever be in our shadow!
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on December 01, 2010, 10:19:24 PM
Didn't deserve to lose but didn't look like scoring
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: N'Rexy on December 01, 2010, 10:20:09 PM
We need to bring back the orange dot. It worked well previously.
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: darren woolley on December 01, 2010, 10:22:29 PM
We can take positives out of the game tonight the way we kept the ball played it around, we are heading in the right direction under GH just need our injured players back and two or three players brought in then we will be ok.
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: villa1 on December 01, 2010, 10:30:06 PM
Lots of nice passing. No penetration.
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 01, 2010, 10:32:07 PM
We can take positives out of the game tonight the way we kept the ball played it around, we are heading in the right direction under GH just need our injured players back and two or three players brought in then we will be ok.


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Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 01, 2010, 10:32:42 PM
mind, the only players I want back are Delph and Albrighton..
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: Sleeuwenhoek on December 01, 2010, 10:35:32 PM
Trouble is the injured players are the ones everybody was slagging off last season. Selling our best midfield players and not replacing them means Ash is spending most of his time firefighting. Injuries/loss of form by Carew and Heskey and only Gabby up front means every time the ball is lumped forward it comes straight back. No one to meet any crosses that are worthy of the name. Lots of pretty passing in everywhere but the final third doesn't cut it with me. Only one decent chance in the second half for all our possesion. Think we are in serious trouble unless we buy wisely in Jan
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: Ger Regan on December 01, 2010, 10:40:24 PM
Lots of nice passing. No penetration.
Story of my life
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: KevinGage on December 01, 2010, 10:46:38 PM
I have a bottle of single malt Laphroaig that I was keeping back for Christmas.

I'm going to start drinking it like cordial, big tall glasses and allsorts.
When I'm done I'll get a lorryload more to hopefully see me through to May.

With a bit of luck I might miss the rest of this season altogether.

Hows that for positivity.
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: TheSandman on December 01, 2010, 10:52:05 PM
I have a bottle of single malt Laphroaig that I was keeping back for Christmas.

I'm going to start drinking it like cordial, big tall glasses and allsorts.
When I'm done I'll get a lorryload more to hopefully see me through to May.

With a bit of luck I might miss the rest of this season altogether.

Hows that for positivity.

At least you have the single malt. There's no booze in the house. :(

Dunne has to be dropped but I've been saying that for weeks and nothings happened. Even when Carlos was fit we still saw Coco the Clown giving his best Titus Bramble impression.
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: itbrvilla on December 01, 2010, 10:59:06 PM
WE lumped it up the pitch throughout.  Same players as usual..... Dunne and Collins.

Did we balls!  We played some nice football and some good counter attacks.
Watch it again and count how many times the back 4 hoofed it straight to Dann and Johnson- more than a few I guarantee it
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: villajk on December 01, 2010, 11:12:11 PM
WE lumped it up the pitch throughout.  Same players as usual..... Dunne and Collins.

Did we balls!  We played some nice football and some good counter attacks.

I thought we passed the ball around rather nicely in the second half.
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: avfcpg on December 01, 2010, 11:28:11 PM
We did. You can see that GH has been getting them to keep possession, even at the back. Just not sure Dunne is as comfortable on the ball than a Rio Ferdinand (or Anton for that matter)...
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: pablopicasso_10 on December 02, 2010, 10:25:02 AM
its hard to stay positive when you cant see where the next win is going to come from...
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: Dr Butler on December 02, 2010, 10:33:14 AM
I'm staying very positive, I thought the Villa retained the ball very well and although in the last third we were very wasteful when in decent crossing postions.

My mate (Boro fan) reckons that the Villa will give somebody a good hiding sooner rather than later..
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: N'ZMAV on December 02, 2010, 10:37:46 AM
We are a better Football team. There has been obvious improvements. We need to defend better now.
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: The Man With A Stick on December 02, 2010, 10:38:24 AM
We did. You can see that GH has been getting them to keep possession, even at the back. Just not sure Dunne is as comfortable on the ball than a Rio Ferdinand (or Anton for that matter)...

Franz Ferdinand is better on the ball than Dunne and he's been dead nearly 100 years.
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: richard moore on December 02, 2010, 10:38:36 AM
WE lumped it up the pitch throughout.  Same players as usual..... Dunne and Collins.

Did we balls!  We played some nice football and some good counter attacks.
Watch it again and count how many times the back 4 hoofed it straight to Dann and Johnson- more than a few I guarantee it

True indeed, but that is different to your first take on things which was 'throughout'. Which is incorrect in my view. It was a mixture of both which is how most teams, bar probably Arsenal, play. Problem is, it all used to be that hoof and hope on the counter attack and teams had found us out on that repetitive tactic...
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: AV82EC on December 02, 2010, 11:08:32 AM

I'm staying very positive, I thought the Villa retained the ball very well and although in the last third we were very wasteful when in decent crossing postions.

My mate (Boro fan) reckons that the Villa will give somebody a good hiding sooner rather than later..

The only trouble is I've been espousing the good hiding theory for at least 6 weeks.  However i concur that it will come at some point, hopefully against the Albion.
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: Dr Butler on December 02, 2010, 11:12:50 AM

I'm staying very positive, I thought the Villa retained the ball very well and although in the last third we were very wasteful when in decent crossing postions.

My mate (Boro fan) reckons that the Villa will give somebody a good hiding sooner rather than later..

The only trouble is I've been espousing the good hiding theory for at least 6 weeks.  However i concur that it will come at some point, hopefully against the Albion.

I'll take that.
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: KevinGage on December 02, 2010, 11:28:38 AM
I'm all for good football.

But pretty patterns in non-threatening areas is very Mowbray-esque.

Did we create a hatful of chances last night with this pretty football? No.
Do we look like we'll concede anytime the ball comes remotely near our area? Yes.

So I don't see how continuing to play just as we are at the moment with no modifications will automatically result in a reversal of fortunes, or that some team is going to cop a hammering (unless that team is us. Again).

But seeing as this thread is titled positivity: 29 days and counting to the opening of the transfer window. Hard time of year to do business blah blah blah. Other clubs manage it somehow. Get it done Gerard, no excuses. Start with a new CB (or two) and take it from there.
Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: Merv on December 02, 2010, 12:06:52 PM
Positivity? By the end of January we should hopefully be spoilt for choice when it comes to team selection, with Petrov, Delph, Reo-Coker, Heskey, Cuellar, Albrighton et al fit again, PLUS a couple of new signings (I'll take a midfield general and a new CB please, perhaps with a side order of left-back to challenge Warnock) PLUS the knowledge that some of the young lads we barely thought of in terms of challenging for a regular first team place (Clark, Bannan, Hogg, Lichaj) a year ago are capable of playing decent roles, if not more.

I reckon we'll win the FA Cup.

Pass the single malt over, Kev.

Title: Re: Positivity
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 02, 2010, 12:16:23 PM
Id forget about Petrov for a few mths but a general midfield with a little nasty steak and a lethal finisher up front, and i can see a good finish to the season . And Albrighton,Delph,NRC and Heskey back in the squad.      For me Carew,Beye ,Salifou,dunne and Sidwell can now fook off... 
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