Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Reality on November 23, 2010, 02:51:22 AM
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Guzan
Warnock
Beye
Sidwell
Carew
Heskey
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Carew
Heskey
Sidwell
Young
Ireland
Agbonlahor
Petrov
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Which Young?
And Gabby? Really?
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Only those who've made it clear in one way or another that they want out. Plus any that Gerard doesn't see as fitting into his first team plans, who he can't find a place for in the 25. Couldn't really say about the latter of course but re the former it would only be Carew and Ireland whom I really want to leave now. The rest, however limited their talents, have at least shown some commitment to the cause.
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Just Carew & Ireland to go if between now and January they don't put in the effort.
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Only those who've made it clear in one way or another that they want out. Plus any that Gerard doesn't see as fitting into his first team plans, who he can't find a place for in the 25.
I agree with this statement.
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I certainly dont want Carew too go yet. Let's get him fit first, he will get goals.
Ireland
Sidwell
Salifou
Osboirne
Heskey. As good as he has been playing, we need goals.
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When we have a smallish squad anyway and numerous injuries, what sort of thread is this ?
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Ireland is not a team player so he is not one for Mr Houllier, he is lightweight,doesn't tackle loses the ball to easily and once he loses it doesn't try to win it back. Dare I say it he makes Sidwell look good. City had us over when we were vulnerable without a manager who wanted the player. Also with all these injuries and Salifou and Osbourne cannot get a start or even play for the reserves they must be shown the door we have been patient enough with them.
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At the moment just Sidwell & Carew.
I would like to see another Left back & centre midfielder signed to push Warnock & Petrov.
Also, I'd love to see a top draw striker come. Someone who could push us up to the next level. I'm not sure Gabby is that player.
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In the summer, I presume?
Beye
Sidwell
Osbourne
Salifou
Carew
Heskey
Possibly Curtis Davies, but I'll hold my judgement on that one for now.
That's about all, I think. I could make a case for releasing Friedel but all things considered it's probably worth giving him a new one-year deal - although I do think we should sign a new No.1 'keeper.
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When we have a smallish squad anyway and numerous injuries, what sort of thread is this ?
i think the thread is really clever as the long term aim is to drop out of 11 a side football and join sixes by the motorway! 12 is too many for a six a side team and there will be bitching if people dont get a game!
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cuellar
warnock
sidwell
petrov
heskey
carew
osbourne
salifou
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Friedel
Dunne
Sidwell
Osbourne
Salifou
Reo-Coker
Carew
But only if we sign suitable replacements. harsh on OSbourne and salifou but if they aren't going to progress now then they may as well not be on the wage bill.
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I don't think it's a case of 'want out', but rather those that are surplus to requirements once we have everyone back fit. To me that's:-
Carew
Sidwell
Davies
Salifou
Osborne
And then those that we should be looking to move on in order to make room for better incoming players:-
Heskey
Beye
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Sidwell, Carew, Warnock, Salifou and Osbourne.
Under review: Ireland, Dunne, Reo Coker, Petrov, both Youngs, Davies, Beye and Heskey.
It'll probably be worth keeping most of the second group especially as we need bodies in and any transformation should be over the longer term.
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Petrov, Davies, Beye
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guzan
carew
sidwell
davies
petrov
heskey
and i think ashley young will go by his own choice
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Sidwell
Warnock
Ireland
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I would get rid of Sidwell, Ireland, Beye, Osbourne, Salifou, Carew, Guzan, and Warnock i dont think we will miss them that much we can replace them with better players.
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Unless he already has players lined up to come in January, i would'nt let go anyone until the summer apart from Osbourne and Salifou.
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And who said we were fickle?? What a pointless post. We should be getting behind the boys during this injury crisis.
How many of the people posting would of put Downing on their list last season?... Who may i add has been of best players so far this year!?!?
Give Ireland time he will come good, I remember people writing Milner off after his first season. Patience..... it will all come together soon.
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Carew
Heskey
Sidwell
Young
Ireland
Agbonlahor
Petrov
Gabby! FFS He's just signed a new contract and is our best striker with a good future ahead of him.
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Sidwell
Davies
Carew
Osbourne
Salifou
Ashley Young (if the rumoured Spurs/Arsenal silly money links are true)
Dunne
Guzan
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Osbourne & Salifu....What is the point of them being here.
Sidwell....rubbish
Ireland...if he doesn't get his shit together
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Those who fall into one or both of the following categories;
A) A player who does not have the heart to play for Aston Villa
B) A player who does not have the talent to play for Aston Villa
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Davies
Sidwell
Warnock
Osbourne
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I don't want any of the first team players out until we've got players in to replace them. If we get the right players in then I believe the below players should be on their way out
Carew
Osbourne
Salifou
Sidwell
Davies
Ireland
Beye
I also think we really need to replace Petrov.
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Would not make any difference
Sidwell
Carew
Ireland
Osbourne
Salifu
Only if we can get replacements
Warnock
Petrov
Dunne
Beye
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Sidwell, Salifou, osborne, but I wouldn't let anyone else go unless there are replacements, and with our injuries you can't afford to get rid of players. I think realistically only carew & Sidwell will go as they are out of contract
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January -
Osbourne, Salifou
Summer -
Friedal, Sidwell, Carew, Heskey, Petrov,
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Friedel out in the summer? the guy is in the top 3 goalkeepers in the country
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Carew
Davies
Beye
Sidwell
Keep Ireland unless he desperately wants to go. The problem I see is we sell Ireland and then Young leaves in the summer so suddenly we have little guile in midfield then.
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Carew
Salifou
Sidwell
Davies
Osbourne
Heskey in the summer.
Nige has been one of our better players when fit this season so keep him providing the wages aren't extortionate. Give Ireland a proper chance.
Keep Bannan and Albrighton at all costs, the future of this club.
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January:
Osbourne - waste of space
Salifou - why is he in our club in the first place?
Summer:
Davies - he will want 1st team action and we won't be able to give him
Sidwell - left his footballing abilities at Reading. I bet his old man plays better than him now
Carew - earning too much, contributing too little
Heskey - a good servant but we need GOALS
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Guzan
Warnock
Beye
Sidwell
Carew
Heskey
Add Friedel, Petrov, a centre half and maybe even Luke Young to that list. Will probably be the summer before a proper re org can happen. Massive job ahead from Houllier but hopefully Clark, Albrighton, Bannan, Delfouneso, Lichaj, Delph can step up to some degree anyway. Hard to expect they will all make it mind.
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Some of the posts on this thread are mental. Some people actually want Gabby and Young out? Jesus!
I don't want anyone out in particularly, although I'd be happy with them all going if better replacements are brought in.
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Friedel out in the summer? the guy is in the top 3 goalkeepers in the country
Friedel is out of contract in the summer, so he could be on his way.
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Some of the posts on this thread are mental. Some people actually want Gabby and Young out? Jesus!
Threads like this are carte blanche for people to talk bollocks.
IMO
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I thought that Ireland cannot leave until the end of the season because you cannot play for 3 teams in a season ???
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Friedel out in the summer? the guy is in the top 3 goalkeepers in the country
Friedel is out of contract in the summer, so he could be on his way.
Friedel has been very steady since he signed. We do need to look at replacing him soon. I don't think Guzan is up to the job.
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Friedal
L Young
Beye
Dunne
Petrov
Sidwell
Osbourne
Salifou
Heskey
Carew
Probably forgot someone..
A Few other players really need to improve. (Ireland,Warnock)
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I would be disappointed, if the followingt are still here in 12 months time.
LYoung
Cuellar
Beye
Carew
Heskey
NRC
Sidwell
Nothing to do with their current form, just that i think we should get younger, hungrier, and probably cheaper, players in their place.
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I think I'd wait until we were close to having our quota for the 25 man squad rule before letting anyone go.
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Dunne, Beye, Warnock, Petrov, Sidwell, Heskey, Carew
All over paid and past their best form.
Davies too.
Wouldn't be against selling Luke Young either, again due to age and wages.
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Some of the posts on this thread are mental. Some people actually want Gabby and Young out? Jesus!
I don't want anyone out in particularly, although I'd be happy with them all going if better replacements are brought in.
Amen to that.
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Carew
Sidwell
Saliwho
Osbourne
Heskey
Beye
Davies
petrov
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Some of the posts on this thread are mental. Some people actually want Gabby and Young out? Jesus!
Lets face it at VP you're only one wayward pass away from being called an arsehole, just ask FFS Downing.
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Writing a long list of players is ridiculous. Just who is going to replace them all? My tuppence, anyone who says they don't want to play for the club and anyone who doesn't give 100% on the pitch.
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Right now I wouldn't want anyone to leave, not even Sidwell! We can barely put a side out as it is. That said in the summer IF we can replace them and only WHEN that has been done I'd let go of Beye, Carew, Heskey, Sidwell, Guzan, Osbourne and Salifou. But as I say, now is not the time to be thinking of letting players leave.
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Very negative thread when we should be looking at who is breaking through. But please put reo coker on this list and bring in Clarke until Delph and gardner are also ready to compete. Reo will not take us forward and to give him a three year contract on 50k a week is a joke ......