Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: alanclare on November 22, 2010, 09:03:58 AM
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The team did not fully comprehend the demands of playing a team of scrappers and certainly did not relish it.
"The performance against Manchester United needs to be repeated if you want to step up a level," Houllier said. "We were too shy at the beginning. It's a different challenge physically and mentally, and today maybe we were not up to it. As a team we have to show more personality and more character."
"Keep humble - everything is tight. I don't think we gave a fair account of ourselves. But when you have a young team, you have to accept there will be god sides and bad sides. Let's not complain about anybody except ourselves and turn to the next game, against Arsenal."
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Spot on, but he needs to drill this kind of analysis into the players!
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Patience is the name of the game, when we get the crocked players back and a couple of new players in January, things will look much brighter.
Houllier knows what needs to be done and he has the ability and nous to do it.
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Patience is the name of the game, when we get the crocked players back and a couple of new players in January, things will look much brighter.
Houllier knows what needs to be done and he has the ability and nous to do it.
Patience is the name of the game for full backs as well, stop diving in Warnock FFS, the likes of Hogg and Bannan don't deserve to be judged on yesterday when the more experienced players let them down.
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It was allways going to be an hard match without so many players we have got to try and play like we did against Manure then we will be ok. Roll on january get a couple of players in and the injured back then we will be fine.
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I feel sorry for anyone who has a No 9 Irleand shirt oh his back what a waste of money.As for the real Ireland errrr what a waste, as someone stated on the match thread an oxygen thief and waste of rations. I doubt he will be losing sleep over his inept performances though.
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I feel sorry for anyone who has a No 9 Irleand shirt oh his back what a waste of money.As for the real Ireland errrr what a waste, as someone stated on the match thread an oxygen thief and waste of rations. I doubt he will be losing sleep over his inept performances though.
I would be surpised if anyone has 9 & Ireland on the back, the shirts have only just come out and we've seen him play! might have been a different story in August
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If Downing and & Young had scored would have been a different story, would have been 2 up before they scored in the 47th min!!
Was a far cry from Man u performace, You just don't know what team is going to turn up
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Its a worry that we looked so vulnerable at set pieces to be bullied....I know we are stronger when Collins is on the field but teams are going to use that against us from now on......exactly the same tactic as we used to use against others.
I think I would rather we were a dirty team than one who constantly give away niggly free kicks in the areas that Warnock did yesterday and ALbrighton did against Fulham....points wasted via discipline
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Its a worry that we looked so vulnerable at set pieces to be bullied....I know we are stronger when Collins is on the field but teams are going to use that against us from now on......exactly the same tactic as we used to use against others.
I think I would rather we were a dirty team than one who constantly give away niggly free kicks in the areas that Warnock did yesterday and ALbrighton did against Fulham....points wasted via discipline
We do miss Cuellar and Heskey for defending set pieces, Heskey used to clear at the near post a fair few times a game, and Cuellar was an extra body defending and a threat from our set pieces.
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I feel sorry for anyone who has a No 9 Irleand shirt oh his back what a waste of money.As for the real Ireland errrr what a waste, as someone stated on the match thread an oxygen thief and waste of rations. I doubt he will be losing sleep over his inept performances though.
Tony Cascarino writing in today's Times says of Ireland:
"Good gig he's had for the past year, earning a fortune for doing almost nothing. Has he given up on club football as well as Ireland? Quiet again yesterday. The next Winston Bogarde?"
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Psychologically speaking, conceeding the first goal when we did was the worst time to conceed. Most players' heads would drop after that, but it affects young players more. We played some nice football at times, unfortunately for the most part it was nice, but ineffective football. It kind of reminded me of a bad Arsenal performance, lots of fancy passing triangles but not really going anywhere and lacking any real penetration, and of course, struggling with the physical strength of the opposition.
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With Gabby still not fit, we don't have a striker.
That must take a lot of confidence away from the rest of the team ?
No excuse for how shit we were yesterday mind you.
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With Gabby still not fit, we don't have a striker.
That must take a lot of confidence away from the rest of the team ?
No excuse for how shit we were yesterday mind you.
I don't think that anybody has made excuses for a change but there are certainly a number of mitigating circumstances. Our main problems yesterday were caused by the injury list, lack of experience and allowing some of our more experienced players (Warnock) to get drawn into Big Sam's tactics. You really need experience to handle Blackburn and it was a bit much to expect Messrs Clarke, Bannan, Hogg and Herd to know what to expect.
Having thought about it for a day I would say that I'm disappointed in a couple of senior players and we were suckered rather than 'shit'. Hopefully a worthwhile learning experience for some of our players that will prepare them for the next game.
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Psychologically speaking, conceeding the first goal when we did was the worst time to conceed. Most players' heads would drop after that, but it affects young players more. We played some nice football at times, unfortunately for the most part it was nice, but ineffective football. It kind of reminded me of a bad Arsenal performance, lots of fancy passing triangles but not really going anywhere and lacking any real penetration, and of course, struggling with the physical strength of the opposition.
If it had been 0-0 at half time as it should have been, I still think were the most likely winners. Warnock's tackle was unprofessional and he let his team and manager down.
Blackburn were difficult to break down in the second half as they had something to defend. Playing counter-attacking football in the second half at 0-0 would have given us every chance.
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Psychologically speaking, conceeding the first goal when we did was the worst time to conceed. Most players' heads would drop after that, but it affects young players more. We played some nice football at times, unfortunately for the most part it was nice, but ineffective football. It kind of reminded me of a bad Arsenal performance, lots of fancy passing triangles but not really going anywhere and lacking any real penetration, and of course, struggling with the physical strength of the opposition.
If it had been 0-0 at half time as it should have been, I still think were the most likely winners. Warnock's tackle was unprofessional and he let his team and manager down.
Blackburn were difficult to break down in the second half as they had something to defend. Playing counter-attacking football in the second half at 0-0 would have given us every chance.
How can you play counter-attacking football against a team with no ambitions and 10 defenders?!?!?!?
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It's all a bit stating-the-fucking-obvious really, isn't it?
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It's all a bit stating-the-fucking-obvious really, isn't it?
It is, but ( stating the obvious again) we should be beating teams like Blackburn Rovers, they aren't a very good team.
1 away win this season so far is a dreadful record.
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Thing is what is the 'next level' that he's talking about. We've been challenging for top 4 and getting to Wembley recently so our level is pretty good. Getting the team back challenging where we've been would be a good start. With all the injuries we can just hope that we are not too far behind come the new year and can then move up the table.
one other thing, Houllier always looks cold and ill to me when he is on the bench. I do hope this isn't a step to far for him.
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one other thing, Houllier always looks cold and ill to me when he is on the bench. I do hope this isn't a step to far for him.
For a start, he wasn't wearing his Villa scarf which, it should be stated, should not be assumed in that posy way that is adopted by one Roberto Mancini.
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A comment for a separate thread I guess but I have never known such a long injury list - is there something wrong with our training/treatment regime?
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Psychologically speaking, conceeding the first goal when we did was the worst time to conceed. Most players' heads would drop after that, but it affects young players more. We played some nice football at times, unfortunately for the most part it was nice, but ineffective football. It kind of reminded me of a bad Arsenal performance, lots of fancy passing triangles but not really going anywhere and lacking any real penetration, and of course, struggling with the physical strength of the opposition.
If it had been 0-0 at half time as it should have been, I still think were the most likely winners. Warnock's tackle was unprofessional and he let his team and manager down.
Blackburn were difficult to break down in the second half as they had something to defend. Playing counter-attacking football in the second half at 0-0 would have given us every chance.
Agreed Nick. It was a long way from a cut your wrists performance yesterday but the tackle by Warnock at such a crucial time was really bloody stupid.
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We have to hang in there. We have an extremely young and inexperienced team on the pitch at present. We're without Beye, Cuellar, Collins, Sidwell, Reo-Coker, Albrighton, Delph, Carew and Heskey. Like some of those players or not, it's a long injury list. Any club would be struggling for consistency with that many players missing.
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Did Houllier sum up with "Did you know that 'Cor Wank is an anagram of 'Warnock'?"
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We have to hang in there. We have an extremely young and inexperienced team on the pitch at present. We're without Beye, Cuellar, Collins, Sidwell, Reo-Coker, Albrighton, Delph, Carew and Heskey. Like some of those players or not, it's a long injury list. Any club would be struggling for consistency with that many players missing.
Beye has been awful lately. Cuellar is out of favour. Collins has been shit lately. Sidwell is Sidwell. Reo-Coker can't pass a football to save his life.
Delph won't be back to anywhere near his best until next season. Carew is just lol.