Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: cdbearsfan on November 21, 2010, 06:29:49 PM
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Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/9214212.stm).
I say good luck to them. They have come under shitloads of criticism for daring to upset one of the Tedious Two. If Celtic feel hard done by they should try watching our Wemberley games last year.
Oophs did anyone notice I put the wrong link up there?
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I only wish the referees in england would take a similar stance. The media and managers spout so much garbage about ref's and players try their hardest to intimidate them.
It's interesting how in other sports, such as Rugby and cricket that officials are respected.
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The Refs' case wasn't helped when one of them had to admit to lying about a decision and conspiring with his assistant to cover it up
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To be fair a referee has admitted lying to Lennon this season. Some of this criticism is justified.
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Sorry Redsox you beat me to it.
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To be fair Lennon has been bitching like a little girl since before then.
I also didn't hear him moan about the fairly solid penalty claim that Dundee United were denied yesterday. Wanker.
And how many sodding decisions have Celtic AND Rangers got wrongly in there favour every year? It's into the bloody hundreds. You don't hear Hearts, Hibs, Dundee United, Kilmarnock and so on bitching about those.
Derek Adams who was manager of Ross County until recently was given an eight match ban for exchanging verbals with a ref during a reserve match. This was later extended to 18 matches for various reasons. Lennon has exchanged verbals during games, has criticised them in the media on countless occassions and has basically accused them and the whole system of being as corrupt as Don Beech. The mooted penalty for that has been four games at most. The SPL/SFA are scared of Celtic/Rangers and that is evinced in the penalty given to Adams compared to the mooted penalty for Lennon. I'd throw the book at him.
I back the referees decision if they go on strike. I do hope the SPL bring in that Taylor lad from the English FA and show Lennon what a hopeless ref really is like. Also, it is important to note that our refs are given a small fee for each game rather than salaried like the English ones. They get much less and that is not shown by a real gulf in class.
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How many times have Celtic and Rangers had it there own way and now they are moaning when something goes against them i say the referees are well within there right to strike.
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To be fair Lennon has been bitching like a little girl since before then.
I also didn't hear him moan about the fairly solid penalty claim that Dundee United were denied yesterday. Wanker.
And how many sodding decisions have Celtic AND Rangers got wrongly in there favour every year? It's into the bloody hundreds. You don't hear Hearts, Hibs, Dundee United, Kilmarnock and so on bitching about those.
Derek Adams who was manager of Ross County until recently was given an eight match ban for exchanging verbals with a ref during a reserve match. This was later extended to 18 matches for various reasons. Lennon has exchanged verbals during games, has criticised them in the media on countless occassions and has basically accused them and the whole system of being as corrupt as Don Beech. The mooted penalty for that has been four games at most. The SPL/SFA are scared of Celtic/Rangers and that is evinced in the penalty given to Adams compared to the mooted penalty for Lennon. I'd throw the book at him.
I back the referees decision if they go on strike. I do hope the SPL bring in that Taylor lad from the English FA and show Lennon what a hopeless ref really is like. Also, it is important to note that our refs are given a small fee for each game rather than salaried like the English ones. They get much less and that is not shown by a real gulf in class.
Couldn't agree more.
The SFA are spineless and Lennon is a total twat.
Surely the refs that make the top level are the best there are in Scotland. So what's the alternative?
If the standard isn't good enough who's to blame? Surely it's the people that run the game up there....
Celtic/Rangers and the SFA.
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The Refs' case wasn't helped when one of them had to admit to lying about a decision and conspiring with his assistant to cover it up
The ref made the right decision in the end. It wasn't a penalty. How they got to the decision is where the murkiness appears but to be honest, who the fuck cares about how they get there, who alerted whom as long as the correct decisions are made at the big moments. And they ended up winning the game anyway, ******.
Lennon is just an arse. The Scottish refs aren't perfect but he seems to be waging a war against them just now.
As others have said the sheer number of dubious and dodgy decisions that the odious pair and their venomous, glory hunting, Daily Record reading, half breed fans have biased in their favour stacks miles higher than the small number of decisions going the other way.
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As someone esle pointed out, it'd be nice if the English refs would similarly stand up to the intimidation and bullying handed out to them.
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Hopefully this should mean that Clyde don't lose this weekend
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As someone esle pointed out, it'd be nice if the English refs would similarly stand up to the intimidation and bullying handed out to them.
They won't though. If they upset Ferguson, for example, then they won't ref a top premier league match for a long time because Ferguson will moan to high heaven about him so the FA will make sure that ref doesn't referee their matches in the future, which the ref will not want.
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I don't get what the SFA or the FA for that matter are scared about. The most important thing to the Celtics, Rangers, Man Utds, Chelseas of this world is the money and the big bucks come from the European competitions; UEFA sanctioned tournaments.
If the SFA or FA took a hardline stance they'll be backed up by UEFA and FIFA if push came to shove and the clubs would have nowhere to go. The clubs need the tournaments to showcase their talents and therefore should have to play by the rules.
Maybe it's a naive point of view but I wish the football associations would start doing a bit more to protect the integrity of the game. They did it with the fast track banning system which Barton and Williamson have been punished with and no-one's kicked up a fuss about that. They need to use their power a bit more and ban the Neil Lennon's of this world when they talk such bollocks.
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http://newsthump.com/2010/11/26/scottish-football-fans-busy-learning-polish-for-you-blind-bastard/
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What a great piece of publicity for the Sottish league. The media will be all over the Scottish football matches this weekend no doubt.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/9225458.stm
Catholic Church calls for Dallas email transparency
Scottish Football Association head of refereeing development Hugh Dallas
BBC Scotland has seen the email sent from the account of Hugh Dallas
The Catholic Church want the Scottish Football Association to sack head of refereeing Hugh Dallas if he sent an "offensive" email about the Pope.
SFA chief Stuart Regan has investigated an email seen by BBC Scotland that was forwarded from Dallas's account on the day of the Pope's visit to Scotland.
The email contains an image of a children's school crossing sign and makes reference to the Pope's visit.
The Church asks that the outcome of the SFA investigation be made public.
Catholic Church spokesman Peter Kearney urges Regan to act urgently to maintain the SFA's integrity by requesting confirmation that should the allegation be proved against Dallas he will be removed from his post.
Kearney insists the email was "totally unprofessional, gratuitously insulting to the Pope, deeply offensive to the Catholic community of Scotland, and an incitement to anti-Catholic sectarianism."
The letter goes on to say that the content of the message "is clearly a matter of some concern to the Catholic Church in Scotland" and asks for confirmation that "should the allegation be proved against Dallas, he will be removed from his post."
The email sent from the SFA account belonging to Dallas contained no text, but included an image attachment of a school crossing sign with a silhouette of an adult holding a child's hand and the word "Caution".
Beneath the sign, added text makes reference to the Pope's visit on 16 September.
In response to media reports about the email, the SFA chief executive said in a statement released on 10 November: "I can confirm I have looked into the circulation of the email reported in the media at the weekend.
"Let me state categorically that I do not condone the transmission of any email content that might cause offence to anyone.
"I have spoken with staff and the matter will now be dealt with internally, in line with the Scottish FA's Information Systems Acceptable Use Policy."
He's now been sacked.
Is this right and isn't it just the kind of thing that goes around most companies? I really do think that they are just being a bunch of delicate flowers.
Of course this is still more evidence as to what is really behind the refereeing 'errors'. Well, at least according to the Celtic family. It really does make us a laughing stock as a country that this kind of nonsense is perpetuated by both sides.
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The offending image:
(http://www.hollow-hill.com/sabina/images/caution-pope.jpg)
All of this has certainly got Richard Dawkins' goat:
Hugh Dallas, head of referee development for the Scottish Football Association has been sacked because he passed on, by eMail, a joke about the pope. His dismissal was called for by a spokesman for the Roman Catholic Church in Scotland. This nasty little weasel is called Peter Kearney, Director of the Scottish Catholic Media Office. His details, in case you feel like sending him a message, are as follows:
Peter Kearney, Director, Scottish Catholic Media Office, St George's Buildings, 5 St Vincent Place, Glasgow G1 2DH
eMail: mail@scmo.org
Similarly, the Chief Executive of the Scottish Football Association, responsible for this craven giving-in to Catholic censorship is Stewart Regan. The address of this coward is Scottish Football Association, Hampden Park, Glasgow G42 9AY
eMail info@scottishfa.co.uk
It would seem, from the YouTube video posted here, that the joke concerned is the one that heads this page, warning children of the approach of the pope. The caption was censored, but it isn't difficult to find the original. It is at http://www.hollow-hill.com/sabina/images/caution-pope.jpg
My suggestion is that we should do our best to make this joke go viral, beginning by sending hundreds of copies of it to these two addresses:
mail@scmo.org
info@scottishfa.co.uk
But there are probably funnier jokes along the same lines, and I would encourage you to send as many as you can find.
Richard
http://richarddawkins.net/articles/555416-football-referee-sacked-for-pope-joke
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He's now been sacked.
Is this right and isn't it just the kind of thing that goes around most companies? I really do think that they are just being a bunch of delicate flowers.
Of course this is still more evidence as to what is really behind the refereeing 'errors'. Well, at least according to the Celtic family. It really does make us a laughing stock as a country that this kind of nonsense is perpetuated by both sides.
If you emailed something around from your work account that someone complained was offensive you would probably be disciplined or sacked depending on your HR department and how high profile the error.
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The offending image:
(http://www.hollow-hill.com/sabina/images/caution-pope.jpg)
All of this has certainly got Richard Dawkins' goat:
Hugh Dallas, head of referee development for the Scottish Football Association has been sacked because he passed on, by eMail, a joke about the pope. His dismissal was called for by a spokesman for the Roman Catholic Church in Scotland. This nasty little weasel is called Peter Kearney, Director of the Scottish Catholic Media Office. His details, in case you feel like sending him a message, are as follows:
Peter Kearney, Director, Scottish Catholic Media Office, St George's Buildings, 5 St Vincent Place, Glasgow G1 2DH
eMail: mail@scmo.org
Similarly, the Chief Executive of the Scottish Football Association, responsible for this craven giving-in to Catholic censorship is Stewart Regan. The address of this coward is Scottish Football Association, Hampden Park, Glasgow G42 9AY
eMail info@scottishfa.co.uk
It would seem, from the YouTube video posted here, that the joke concerned is the one that heads this page, warning children of the approach of the pope. The caption was censored, but it isn't difficult to find the original. It is at http://www.hollow-hill.com/sabina/images/caution-pope.jpg
My suggestion is that we should do our best to make this joke go viral, beginning by sending hundreds of copies of it to these two addresses:
mail@scmo.org
info@scottishfa.co.uk
But there are probably funnier jokes along the same lines, and I would encourage you to send as many as you can find.
Richard
http://richarddawkins.net/articles/555416-football-referee-sacked-for-pope-joke
Was he pissed when he posted that?