Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: PaulTheVillan on November 18, 2010, 11:56:57 AM
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ESPN Link (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=843828&sec=england&cc=5901)
Good news.
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Forgot that Gary McAllister was his manager at Leeds for a while.
Looking forward to seeing Delph back.
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Me too. I just hope we don't expect too much from him too soon.
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Me too. I just hope we don't expect too much from him too soon.
I'm sure Gary McAllister & Houllier won't rush him back.
Delph and Bannan could be a very good future centre midfield. Energy & talent by the bucket load.
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I cnt wait till next season, Bannan and Delph are going to be quality.
Wending see the best of Delph till next season, so after Christmas we need to give him time to catch up with things.
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One for next season once he gets a few games under his belt.
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Can't wait untill Delph returns to action he is going to be a big player for us in the future i have got high hopes for him.
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Me too. I just hope we don't expect too much from him too soon.
If this place is anything to go by, prepare yourself to be disappointed Bren. He had half a decent season at Leeds (the first half) and a handful of good 45 minutes for us. The kid has a long way to go before being the type of player that will demand a place in our central midfield.
Great news that he's on his way back. He's got the raw, natural talent, now it will need developing. Like Bannan, Delph will have to be patient. As will the fans.
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Excellent news, I'm a big fan of Delph. Maybe we should loan him out for six months to the Championship (Leeds?) so he can get his fitness back and some games under his belt. Then with a full pre season he'll be in great shape to start next season.
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Me too. I just hope we don't expect too much from him too soon.
If this place is anything to go by, prepare yourself to be disappointed Bren. He had half a decent season at Leeds (the first half) and a handful of good 45 minutes for us. The kid has a long way to go before being the type of player that will demand a place in our central midfield.
Great news that he's on his way back. He's got the raw, natural talent, now it will need developing. Like Bannan, Delph will have to be patient. As will the fans.
Agree with much of this, however MON's style of play didn't suit him. If you are a powerful midfielder looking to pass the ball or take people on, it must be frustrating to see the ball launched over your head up to the big man! He will come into his own in Houllier's style of play and will complement Bannan very well. I can't help but think that these two would need a physical minder to play with them too.
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With the old heads of Petrov and NRC (NRC not actually that old) and then the babies of Delph, Bannan and Gardner there is the potential for a pretty natural handing over of the guard for Villa's midfield (from NRC/Petrov to Delph/Bannan/Gardner).
However I think a top DMC signing is still necessary as it is highly unlikely that all three of the youngsters will make it (on the flip side - one will, and be signed by Man City). I'd be looking for a 22-25 year old that has played a lot of games: Defour or Witsel spring to mind.
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good news.. i like the look of delph...
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Excellent news, we can't rush him back though!
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Has Rene/Hot Lips/G-Dawg/The Houllinator spoken about Delph in the press since he came?
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Looking forward to seeing Delph back - he's going to be a proper player.
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Whats happening with Gary Gardner ???
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Let's hope that he comes back slowly. I trust Hollier to do just that.
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I'd like Gerard and McAllister to sort out the timing of his tackling when he returns, far too many late challenges previously.
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I'd like Gerard and McAllister to sort out the timing of his tackling when he returns, far too many late challenges previously.
Good point. Although, Paul Scholes has proven that tackling isn't something that can be easily resolved with training.
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I'd like Gerard and McAllister to sort out the timing of his tackling when he returns, far too many late challenges previously.
Hopefully his reading of the game will improve with experience and he'll stay on his feet and press more.
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However I think a top DMC signing is still necessary as it is highly unlikely that all three of the youngsters will make it (on the flip side - one will, and be signed by Man City). I'd be looking for a 22-25 year old that has played a lot of games: Defour or Witsel spring to mind.
Agree with this, although I think Defour is more attacking - I do like the look of Witsel.
Were Ash to go or move back out wide and be replaced by Delph it would change the dynamic of the side. We'd probably be more solid and hopefully still get a central threat by Delph and Bannan taking turns getting forward to support the striker.
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Good point. Although, Paul Scholes has proven that tackling isn't something that can be easily resolved with training.
I always think Scholes' tackling would have improved far quicker had a few referees shown a bit more bottle and sent him off... maybe he'd have learned to temper his challenges that way. The guy could be on a dozen red cards in his career - he's had so many let-offs it's untrue!
Walters Warriors - I believe Gary Gardner was cleared to resume full training a week or so ago; probably still a couple of weeks away from getting a game with the reserves though. Get him and Delph up to speed for the New Year and our midfield options could be very exciting.
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Whats happening with Gary Gardner ???
He was off to sign for Inter Milan wasn't he. The FSW wanted him. Big lol.
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Whats happening with Gary Gardner ???
He was off to sign for Inter Milan wasn't he. The FSW wanted him. Big lol.
He was reported to be back in training by various sites. Now i have heard nothing on his progres. Any body know anything ????
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Good news
I just hope he can be the player that everyone thinks he will
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Cheers Merv. Appreciated.
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Scholes never intended to change his way of tackling, he sticks the boot in and gets away with it, if he had played for any one else he would have had to change
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With some close guidance, Delph should be our future centre mid. I am totally sold on that. We have not been blessed with great quality centre mids over the years, they are either good on the ball but with no pace (Barry) or good destructive players who never trouble the keeper (NRC, McGann,) or have an ok all round game but with nothing particularly special (Gardner, Davis, Petrov, Sidwell). Milner was becoming the exception as he was as close to Gerard as we have seen since Platt, but whilst Milner had hard work and endeavour as his main attributes, unfortunately real "class" was only occasional as probably man city fans are finding out.
Delph has class though. He's completely at ease with the ball at his feet, is box to box and can score. Under GH's tutoring, he will be our best chance of creating a Gerrard that we have had in a long time. Having seen Bannan emerge over the last few weeks, he seems in the same mould, in the fact that he is totally comfortable with the ball too, but can also play the killer pass. God have we yearned for that over the last few years. His ball for Albrighton away at Fulham for the goal and then vs Utd his ball to Downing 1st half and to Young for the Albrighton goal showed his creative quality. His ability to turn on a sixpence due to his size too is incredible as he turned utd's midfield inside out on a few occasions and had the balls to do it - that's class. C. Clark is the same too. Vs Chelsea when he came on, some of his composure on the ball was outstanding. A little McGrath-esque I might add. His ability to turn this way or that, not to hoof as the first option was awesome. These three, plus Albrighton (not seen enough of Lichaj yet) with a bit of quality experience around them really could turn into diamonds under the new management regime. As for Delfouneso, he needs to get Gabby's "best of" DVD and sit and watch it over and over and over and see what hard work earns you. Gabby gave a master-class on Saturday vs Utd in strength and hold up play and created a penalty on sheer effort. ND needs to take note and follow in Gabby's footsteps, not Luke Moore's.
Rant over.
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I thought Delph struggled in his fleeting appearances last season. Seems a good athlete anyway and combative but again lets not build him up too much. Looking forward to seeing him get a chance in a different system that values possession of the ball. We have three left sided centre midfield options now - possibly one too many
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I'd like Gerard and McAllister to sort out the timing of his tackling when he returns, far too many late challenges previously.
MON alluded to this as an issue even prior to his injury.
Hopefully the length of time he's been out has rammed the issue home. He has all the toys to make it in the top flight; good control, eye for a pass, likes to take players on and beat them and relishes the physical aspect of the game. It's rare to see a player possess all that, if they're good at the former they often lack the latter.
Controversial viewpoint, but I reckon part of the problem Arsenal have had with injuries in recent seasons is they are so focussed on pretty patterns and what they do in possession that they neglected to a certain extent how players should protect themselves when challenging for the ball.
Whether Arsene likes it or not tackling too is a skill and is still a crucial part of the game.
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Best player on the pitch against Ure, best player against Bolton, best player against Palace.And even though the team performance was shite, best player against Wigan.I did'nt go to the Fiore game, but apparently he was the best player in that as well.
This is a 19 yr old we are talkig about.He could be better than all of them, Ramsey, Bannan, Wilshire, Rodwell etc.He has everything.
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We could really do with him now. I hate watching the current team against battling sides like Blackburn. The midfield looks like very weak defensively. With Petrov and NRC missing this would have been a golden opportunity for him.
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We could really do with him now. I hate watching the current team against battling sides like Blackburn. The midfield looks like very weak defensively. With Petrov and NRC missing this would have been a golden opportunity for him.
I'm sorry but last season against Blackburn he was taken off because one more rash challenge and he'd have been off. I think he's too lightweight to hold his own in the Premiership at this time. He needs some growth time. He does look as though he'll be a good player.
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We could really do with him now. I hate watching the current team against battling sides like Blackburn. The midfield looks like very weak defensively. With Petrov and NRC missing this would have been a golden opportunity for him.
I'm sorry but last season against Blackburn he was taken off because one more rash challenge and he'd have been off. I think he's too lightweight to hold his own in the Premiership at this time. He needs some growth time. He does look as though he'll be a good player.
If hes too lightweight, where does that leave Barry Bannan.
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We could really do with him now. I hate watching the current team against battling sides like Blackburn. The midfield looks like very weak defensively. With Petrov and NRC missing this would have been a golden opportunity for him.
I'm sorry but last season against Blackburn he was taken off because one more rash challenge and he'd have been off. I think he's too lightweight to hold his own in the Premiership at this time. He needs some growth time. He does look as though he'll be a good player.
If hes too lightweight, where does that leave Barry Bannan.
Someone with the skill, poise, balance, control and low centre of gravity that makes him an entirely different player and able to compete. Delph is a different player who still needs to fill out. I'm not syaing he won't its just he's only 19/20 and from what I've seen so far he needs to develop his physicality to compete inthe Premier League.
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I don't think his physicality (is that a real word?) is an issue at all. I would have thought the lower divisions were more physical than the top flight and he seemed ok there. From what I saw last year he looked strong and tenacious, and that seems to be what we are lacking at the minute.
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Delph is not the answer to our prayers. From what I've seen he's got the potential to be a great player but we're talking a hell of a long time out and he's not going to get much of a grace period from his own fans, let alone the opposition. Better to view his return as a bonus and not the be-all and end-all.
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The point I was trying to make was that the current injury crisis would have been an ideal time for him to have a run in the side.
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I'd welcome the imminent return of any of our current injury list, regardless.