Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Rip Van We Go Again on November 15, 2010, 12:22:07 PM
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http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2219975,00.html
Really impressed with him Saturday, he showed no nerves at all.
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After saturday he should get a few more games. Good luck to the lad
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And the conveyor belt keeps on producing.....
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The best part of Saturday was the utter fearlessness of the youngsters, bizarrely, it's the older heads in defence who are slipping up.
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You even get a mention in that interview Mark.
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You even get a mention in that interview Mark.
I see no mention of
'We want you to keep an eye on the tall fat ****** ambling round Trinity Road.'
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I thought he looked totally out of his depth in the first 20 minutes, which was understandable, and gave the ball away too cheaply at times, but he got more into it as the game went on. I personally think that out of all the kids playing at the moment, he'll be the one most likely to move down the leagues, but i'll be delighted if he proves me wrong.
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I think they miss a word out as it doesn't actually say what he wants Hogg to do with you - it just says I want you to .... mark Fletcher. Bad grammar.
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I fear we are getting a bit carried away by Hogg. He did okay at times on Saturday, nothing more.
Good experience for him in his development though.
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I fear we are getting a bit carried away by Hogg. He did okay at times on Saturday, nothing more.
Good experience for him in his development though.
My thoughts exactly.
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I fear we are getting a bit carried away by Hogg. He did okay at times on Saturday, nothing more.
Although that may be true, considering who it was he was 'doing OK' against elevates the performance.
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I have very high hopes for Clark, Bannan and Albrighton and hope Fonz proves me wrong as he's still very young, but Lichaj, Lowry, Hogg, Osbourne and Herd are all 21/22 now so I don't really see them establishing themselves at such a high level. I expect they will drift away and the younger boys, Johnson, Gardner, Weimann, Forrester, maybe Collins etc will overtake them in the pecking order shortly.
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I agree he did ok need's to improve his passing though.
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I'm not sure he has what it takes to establish himself in our team long term. He seems like a neat energetic footballer but doesn't look to have that 'extra' that I think he will need.
However, our Academy's successes should not be considered just those that make it in our first team but also those that carve themselves out a decent football career, even if at a lower level.
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I thought that he occupied a space on the pitch and made a couple of good tackles. Nothing spectacular. He did grow in confidence as the game wore on though.
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I thought that he occupied a space on the pitch and made a couple of good tackles. Nothing spectacular. He did grow in confidence as the game wore on though.
He had more of an impact on the match than Sidwell would have done.
You can tell he's played with Bannan a lot, though, looked very much like he was used to being told 'win the ball and give it to Wee Barry Bannan"
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first 15 mins for him was like our whole team, looked dazed and confused, not just Hogg. He settled with the team, and for me, broke up play, and found our players. Simple, effective. Good game overall
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In the pre-match interview Houllier was asked to talk about Hogg. The reply was something like "he is not the finished article, but he can run, and I wish him luck". Hogg doesn't have as much promise as Bannan, but it's perhaps to early to say whether he will be a workmanlike Premiership player of a workmanlike Championship player.
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if he become menacing he can become Boss J.D. Hogg - The man in Duke of Hazzards :)
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A question for any regular reserves watchers, does Hogg usually play as the defensive midfielder player?
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I thought he was poor first half and in truth had we had Reo Coker playing there we may have been a bit more composed towards the end, but second half he did ok. Can't see it long term, but certainly no worse a squad player than Sidwell, and 50k a week cheaper I am sure!
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One game isn't enough to know one way or the other if he's got what he takes.
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I thought Hogg was the weak link on Saturday, he did well tackling etc but looked scared to pass it anywhere but back too dunne or warnock.
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Not the best game to make your debut, someone shit like Wigan might have been a bit easier but give the lad chance. You never know he's only a young and he's got plenty of time to improve.
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His tackling and application were first class on saturday, was really getting stuck into fairly the nearest man. united player to him.
He gave away the ball very cheaply though on various occasions which hints at a lack of composure and technique so much so I thought NRC was out there!
Still as NRC and Muamba have shown, there is a place in the prem for those types of midfielders so intweresting to see how he'll pan out.
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As expected for his age and experience, he has a lot to learn. But this was a massive game to debut in. He was still at least on par with Sidwell and seriously cheaper .........
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I didn't realise it, but, according to the stats, Hogg is the same height as Barry Bannan. Fair play to the pair of them for the way they played on Saturday.
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Great crunching tackle on Wes Brown, that apart I felt the game passed him by.
Seen him in the reserves plays centrally and never really stands out for me.
Let's not get carried away, I think we were down to the bare bones Saturday,but as GH says 'good luck to him'.
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I don't think he's got 'it', sadly.
I was really shocked to see him get a game and surprised that he did way better I expected. He's better than Sidwell or Osbourne would have been.