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Title: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Mark H on November 09, 2010, 02:29:13 PM
Sidwell now out until Christmas - We need to have a sticky thread on who is out and for how long as the list is getting longer !

So we just need updates on :-

Sidwell
NRC
Heskey
Delph
Carew
Gabby
Petrov

Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: usav on November 09, 2010, 02:30:27 PM
Normally  I wouldn't care, but bloody hell! 
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: TheSandman on November 09, 2010, 02:35:54 PM
Bannan is at least twice the player.

Does this mean our only decent fit CMs are Bannan and Clark?
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Chris Smith on November 09, 2010, 02:39:42 PM
Bannan is at least twice the player.

Does this mean our only fit CMs and decent are Bannan and Clark?

Yes, although it should read "our only fit CM and converted centre back...".

Next it will be Bannan to get his leg caught in a mouse trap and be out for 3 months.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: pablopicasso_10 on November 09, 2010, 02:40:23 PM
no loss...

he is shit...
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: DB on November 09, 2010, 02:41:59 PM
He's not shit as such, just does not contribute anything, it's like playing with 10 men.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Pete3206 on November 09, 2010, 02:44:20 PM
Sidwell now out until Christmas

Every cloud.......etc, etc.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on November 09, 2010, 02:45:00 PM
He's not shit as such, just does not contribute anything, it's like playing with 10 men.

So he's shit then.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 09, 2010, 02:45:08 PM
Don't be surprised to see Gabby on the bench tomorrow.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Chris Smith on November 09, 2010, 02:47:32 PM
Don't be surprised to see Gabby on the bench tomorrow.

On his own.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Dribbler on November 09, 2010, 02:48:18 PM
Bannan is at least twice the player.

Does this mean our only fit CMs and decent are Bannan and Clark?

Is Ireland not a CM?
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: TheSandman on November 09, 2010, 02:49:43 PM
Bannan is at least twice the player.

Does this mean our only fit CMs and decent are Bannan and Clark?

Is Ireland not a CM?

Yes. Mind was playing tricks as I had him in Ashley Young's position as second striker.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Merv on November 09, 2010, 02:50:40 PM
Ireland is a CM, yes.

I suppose Hogg will be in the squad then. Or maybe Daniel Johnson.

Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Simon Ward on November 09, 2010, 02:51:22 PM
Don't be surprised to see Gabby on the bench tomorrow.

As predicted here. :)

Gabby on the bench according to WM! At last a glimmer of good injury news.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Pete3206 on November 09, 2010, 02:51:51 PM
Don't be surprised to see Gabby on the bench tomorrow.

On his own.

I've heard Benson and Hedges will be on the bench tomorrow.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: TheSandman on November 09, 2010, 02:53:29 PM
Don't be surprised to see Gabby on the bench tomorrow.

On his own.

I've heard Benson and Hedges will be on the bench tomorrow.


John Robertson back on the coaching staff?
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on November 09, 2010, 02:53:47 PM
Bannan is at least twice the player.

Does this mean our only fit CMs and decent are Bannan and Clark?

Is Ireland not a CM?

His performances for us so far would suggest not.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 09, 2010, 02:54:11 PM
Don't be surprised to see Gabby on the bench tomorrow.

As predicted here. :)

Gabby on the bench according to WM! At last a glimmer of good injury news.

I just hope we're not rushing him back too soon because of all the other injuries. We need Gabby fully fit, not 80% fit and then doing himself more damage by playing and being out for longer.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: darren woolley on November 09, 2010, 03:02:36 PM
When are these injuries going to stop at this rate we will have to bring our boots on wednesday.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Mazrim on November 09, 2010, 03:04:47 PM
Is there a sniper at Bodymoor Heath? In all honesty though, whilst I dont wish injury on anybody, in Sidwell's case I just cant bring myself to be bothered.

I think the next step is to play Collins and Clark in midfield with Cuellar and Dunne at centre half.
Thank fuck we have centre halves who can play.
Hogg is a decent enough player with a Hitz like hammer shot on him that could make him popular but I wouldnt be wanting him in the side yet under any other circumstances. The other options are Osbourne and Salifou.
If Osbourne remembered the player he should be he could be useful but he seems a bit of a waster and Salifou is just a bit hopeless.

How we could do with Delph and Gardner right now.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: stevenjos on November 09, 2010, 03:08:08 PM
No loss, really is wank.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: VillaAlways on November 09, 2010, 03:19:40 PM
OS saying Gabby will be on bench
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 09, 2010, 03:23:00 PM
Sidwell really is a terrible footballer, but to be honest, even he is better than nothing.

Although it is a close run thing.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: eamonn on November 09, 2010, 03:23:54 PM
For the love of Nixon...has MON pissed on our corner flags or something?
Sidwell can now prepare to move on in January.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: pedro25 on November 09, 2010, 03:30:39 PM
In people's opinions if G Gardner was fit where would he be in the pecking order?  Behind Bannan and Clark and above Hogg, or below Hogg as well, or right in the mix with Bannan and Clark?  Are Salifou and Osbourne behind Hogg, Johnson, Gardner etc and if so why are they still here?  Also Weiman, if fit is he a better all round bet than Delfouneso or not yet?
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Dave P on November 09, 2010, 03:32:29 PM
It does make you think what we do in training !!
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on November 09, 2010, 03:38:23 PM
He is shit but what the fuck is going on!!!?

Whats up with him? Is it groin injury from sex or something? it can't be from playing?
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: usav on November 09, 2010, 03:40:25 PM
OS saying Gabby will be on bench

Really want Gabby fit for Manure.  Vidic seems to struggle against him (and anyone with pace).
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Merv on November 09, 2010, 03:41:49 PM
Are Salifou and Osbourne behind Hogg, Johnson, Gardner etc and if so why are they still here? 

I guess they must be, they've been nowhere near the first team all season while Johnson and Hogg have both been in recent squads. To be honest, I've got no idea why we didn't release both years ago.

And... how bad must Osbourne have got not to even make the bench with four/five midfield players out injured? What the hell has happened to him? I never saw him as a world-class player in the making but thought at the very least he'd turn into a decent ball-winning midfielder good enough to make some sort of contribution to a squad.

Salifou's just a total mystery to me.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: manic-road on November 09, 2010, 03:43:37 PM
Salifou is a mystery to everyone
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 09, 2010, 03:46:19 PM
Salifou!!!

Come on down!!
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 09, 2010, 03:46:46 PM
It does make you think what we do in training !!
It's because we actually train now, instead of just jog.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: UsualSuspect on November 09, 2010, 03:47:33 PM
Don't be surprised to see Gabby on the bench tomorrow.

has gabby had any reserve game time?

The only reason I ask is because before he got injured he looked a stone overweight to me
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on November 09, 2010, 03:49:29 PM
According to OS its a re-accurance of a achillies tendon problem.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: b23 on November 09, 2010, 03:51:59 PM
Does he need some surgery on his ankle ? Has he been playing through some pain ?
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Merv on November 09, 2010, 03:59:04 PM
Yeah, to be fair to Sidwell, you don't want to mess about with an Achilles tendon injury.... if that snaps, that's your season over.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: VillaAlways on November 09, 2010, 04:05:04 PM
NRC knee injury not as bad as first thought.Only expected to bo out for 2-3 weeks.Might make it back for the Blose game with any luck
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 09, 2010, 04:05:10 PM
Yeah, to be fair to Sidwell, you don't want to mess about with an Achilles tendon injury.... if that snaps, that's your season over.

His season hasn't started.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Merv on November 09, 2010, 04:11:35 PM
You know what I mean.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 09, 2010, 04:12:31 PM
You know what I mean.

Yep.

Rumours on Twitter than Delph could be on the bench.

Surely not? Maybe someone is confused with Gabby.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: eastie on November 09, 2010, 04:17:10 PM
Sidwell is no loss at all- I'd far rather one of our reserves or youth team in the side than sidwell- one of the worst players I've seen for us in over 30 yrs of watching villa.

Hopefully he will fuck off in January and never wear a villa shirt again- strong words I know but the guy is a passenger.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 09, 2010, 04:20:43 PM
In fairness, I thought his attitude seemed a bit better in recent games and he was at least doing a good job of getting stuck in. Admittedly it's the least we should expect, but it was a start!
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: junxs on November 09, 2010, 04:48:40 PM
You know what I mean.

Yep.

Rumours on Twitter than Delph could be on the bench.

Surely not? Maybe someone is confused with Gabby.

Interesting that one, when he was initially injured December was earmarked as the return date. So maybe, just maybe, he's a week or two ahead of schedule?
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: eamonn on November 09, 2010, 04:58:20 PM
He is shit but what the fuck is going on!!!?

Whats up with him? Is it groin injury from sex or something? it can't be from playing?


He has his wedding vows tattooed across his back so you imagine he'd have plenty of credit in the (sex) bank.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: nick harper on November 09, 2010, 05:12:51 PM
In fairness to him (and I appreciate he hasn't covered himself in glory ) he has tried to play through an injury that has probably got worse as a result.

His time here has never really got going and he's never seemed to be fully fit for any length of time.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 09, 2010, 05:19:44 PM
Osbourne. Play Him.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on November 09, 2010, 05:20:03 PM
Think he need to get fit, go out on 3 months loan to find regular football and get him sharp and matchfit. I don't know if Reading Sidwell is a good player or not. Maybe we can send him to Reading on loan when recovered.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: supertom on November 09, 2010, 05:22:29 PM
I love Salifou. I dunno why, I just do. I'd like to see him appear again in a Villa shirt. He may be bobbins, but I like him.

Sidwell? Meh! Ship him out!
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on November 09, 2010, 05:48:21 PM
Stephen Warnock would be ideal to step into midfield.  If only we had a reserve left back. 
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Monty on November 09, 2010, 06:22:09 PM
Stephen Warnock would be ideal to step into midfield.  If only we had a reserve left back. 

We could play Luke there and put in Lichaj or Cuellar at right back? I do like the look of Lichaj, actually, so it could be a decent shout. Warnock played very well in the midfield for Blackburn a few times, especially against us.

We could also put Collins in the midfield and play Dunne and Cuellar at the back - hardly a bad defensive pairing, you'd imagine.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 09, 2010, 06:29:42 PM
Whatever happens tomorrow night we know a couple of the players will have to play out of position
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: richard moore on November 09, 2010, 06:32:58 PM
Thank god for that, hopefully he has played his last game for Villa. Hope this doesn't affect his selling price though which must be pretty low as it is...
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: richard moore on November 09, 2010, 06:34:35 PM
Yeah, to be fair to Sidwell, you don't want to mess about with an Achilles tendon injury.... if that snaps, that's your season over.

His season hasn't started.

Or did you mean 'Villa career'....?
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Monty on November 09, 2010, 06:34:58 PM
Whatever happens tomorrow night we know a couple of the players will have to play out of position

Though, as Clark is showing, we have a few footballers who can play in many roles and positions.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: ozzjim on November 09, 2010, 06:50:18 PM
Clark and Bannan deserve starting places based on the Blues and Fulham games. Ireland should then be next in line, with Warnock being the best option for a holding role though he dives in too much for my liking at Fulback and fear he would do it even more and more dangerously in the centre where free kicks would result in shots at goal.

Happy to let the kids do it till Jan and then if not good, sell the dead wood and let GH get a couple in he trusts.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Clampy on November 09, 2010, 07:14:31 PM
I can't get my head round why some people are glad Sidwell is injured, bearing in mind our current injury problems.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Legion on November 09, 2010, 07:21:19 PM
Another one bites the dust. Who's next I wonder?
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 09, 2010, 07:51:20 PM
I can't get my head round why some people are glad Sidwell is injured, bearing in mind our current injury problems.

I can't get my head around anyone being glad a Villa player is injured, whatever the circumstances.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on November 10, 2010, 01:50:49 AM
Not happy about Sidwell injury. But seriously think Clarke with Ireland in front of him will make us a better team ........
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Caiphus on November 10, 2010, 04:18:35 AM
What about Herd? Is he still around? Didn't he have a pretty good loan spell at Lincoln last season?
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: adamski villa on November 10, 2010, 07:37:18 AM
What about Herd? Is he still around? Didn't he have a pretty good loan spell at Lincoln last season?

What??? I thought he was Bannan;s driving instructor, surely he is not still playing
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: pedro25 on November 10, 2010, 08:27:14 AM
Surely it's Clark and Bannan with the shirts, Ireland's got to do a lot more to force his way back in.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 10, 2010, 09:38:03 AM
Christmas 2012    Hopefully
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Mazrim on November 10, 2010, 10:09:31 AM
Hang on, has anybody seen Sidwell and Santa Claus at the same time?
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: TimTheVillain on November 10, 2010, 10:18:48 AM
I will remember him for that goal at Everton.

Nothing else springs to mind other than mediocrity personified ( at best).
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: VillaZogmariner on November 10, 2010, 10:22:43 AM
Another one bites the dust. Who's next I wonder?

I seem to remember reading a thread where you went to watch the open training session at Villa Park.

Since then I can't help but notice how bad our injuries have become.

Coincidence? I think not.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Concrete John on November 10, 2010, 10:22:54 AM
I think we should start a thread on who is going to get injured next.  Midfield and the strikers are already screwed, so I'm betting we get him in defence next.

My money is on Dunne.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: VillaZogmariner on November 10, 2010, 10:32:20 AM
It will be Warnock.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: pablopicasso_10 on November 10, 2010, 10:37:21 AM
I will remember him for that goal at Everton.

Nothing else springs to mind other than mediocrity personified ( at best).
i think that is being very unkind to mediocrity...

only thing sidwell has done well, has been as a ballboy and doing the best invisible man impression never seen...
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: stevenjos on November 10, 2010, 11:01:11 AM
I think we should start a thread on who is going to get injured next.  Midfield and the strikers are already screwed, so I'm betting we get him in defence next.

My money is on Dunne.

Dunne looks like hes playing injured already he sweats when he looks at the pitch. Im fairly sure Gerard would play him injured instead of carlos anyway!
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: TimTheVillain on November 10, 2010, 11:12:59 AM
I will remember him for that goal at Everton.

Nothing else springs to mind other than mediocrity personified ( at best).
i think that is being very unkind to mediocrity...

only thing sidwell has done well, has been as a ballboy and doing the best invisible man impression never seen...

True, and MON didn't half buy some duffers.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Duncan Shaw on November 10, 2010, 11:14:52 AM
I will remember him for that goal at Everton.

Nothing else springs to mind other than mediocrity personified ( at best).
i think that is being very unkind to mediocrity...

only thing sidwell has done well, has been as a ballboy and doing the best invisible man impression never seen...

Apart from the fact that Sidwell was a member of the five man midfield with Gabby up top that most of us remember as being one of the best runs we had under MON, including that Everton game.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: pedro25 on November 10, 2010, 11:20:02 AM
He didn't stand out in that run mind
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Somebody_Told_Me on November 10, 2010, 11:23:37 AM
Can we have him please, Sidwell would be great for us. (Stoke)

EDIT Sorry I thought it said out as in sold. Not injured. :-\ Sorry
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 10, 2010, 11:23:46 AM
I will remember him for that goal at Everton.

Nothing else springs to mind other than mediocrity personified ( at best).
i think that is being very unkind to mediocrity...

only thing sidwell has done well, has been as a ballboy and doing the best invisible man impression never seen...

Apart from the fact that Sidwell was a member of the five man midfield with Gabby up top that most of us remember as being one of the best runs we had under MON, including that Everton game.

He did Ok during that spell. Nothing much after.

When he came on v Wigan on his debut and scored a belter I really thought we'd see a future England player. Silly me.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Duncan Shaw on November 10, 2010, 11:30:35 AM
I agree he has done little since, but he has been injured and in and out of the side.  The facts show that when he had a prolonged run in a settled position in the side we played well and had one of our most succesful run of results in the last few years.  I do think there is a plyer in there somewhere.
That said, I thought he would have grasped the chance over the last couple of weeks, particularly in the Burnley game, and it is disappointing that he hasn't - but if he has been carrying an injury, that might be a mitigating factor?
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 10, 2010, 11:31:29 AM
I do think there is a player in there somewhere, but he always stays very very central and there's no real aspect to his game, he isn't superb at attacking or defending, or dictating play etc.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: *shellac* on November 11, 2010, 06:42:11 AM
Of course there's a player in there somewhere but he left him in Reading.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: olaftab on November 11, 2010, 09:03:19 PM
How did he get injured? His wallet fell on his foot or something?
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: JJ-AV on November 11, 2010, 09:55:29 PM
I will remember him for that goal at Everton.

Nothing else springs to mind other than mediocrity personified ( at best).

He played his part that season. Never looked the Barry replacement he was billed as, but he had a pretty decent year.

Performances home and away to Arsenal and away at West Ham stand out in my mind.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: AV82EC on November 11, 2010, 10:38:19 PM
I will remember him for that goal at Everton.

Nothing else springs to mind other than mediocrity personified ( at best).

He played his part that season. Never looked the Barry replacement he was billed as, but he had a pretty decent year.

Performances home and away to Arsenal and away at West Ham stand out in my mind.

He played well in the 3-1 at Liverpool.  The goals against Everton and Wigan.  Ballboy to Milner.  Hitting the post from a saved penalty.  Just missing loads of chances.

Its just never quite happened for him and just don't think he's got what it takes to be a player in a top 6 team.  I've never faulted him for effort, he just lacks the required quality.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: Reality on November 11, 2010, 10:56:02 PM
How come a lot of our players are getting injured under the new regime? This fitness bollocks clearly isn't working.
Title: Re: Sidwell out until Christmas
Post by: TimTheVillain on November 11, 2010, 10:59:38 PM
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Its just never quite happened for him and just don't think he's got what it takes to be a player in a top 6 team.  I've never faulted him for effort, he just lacks the required quality

He should be OK at Villa now then  :-[
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