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Title: Season ticket prices....
Post by: DB on September 23, 2010, 06:27:58 PM
Interesting read....
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/ianmcowie/100007727/football-fans-show-red-card-to-soaring-ticket-costs/ (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/ianmcowie/100007727/football-fans-show-red-card-to-soaring-ticket-costs/)

I always wonder why prices in this country are not lower they are. Doesn't most revenue come from TV, advertising, sponsers etc..? Why don't we take the German approach and lower prices ?
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: Bungle on September 23, 2010, 06:38:44 PM
Simple answer to that is this is rip-off Britain, where things are priced to the max.

Unfortunately the wages paid are poor as well which doesn't really help.
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: rutski on September 23, 2010, 06:42:09 PM
football will get a bite on the bum, tickets are too expensive. This recession hasnt hit hard yet as a lot of folk subsidised lack of income over the last 2 years with savings ready for the kick start again, we aint seen the last of it yet!
last nights attendance at massively reduced prices shows what the football fan thinks of the game at the moment!
I think Randy has seen it coming and that is why clubs need to sort wage structures and transfer fees out big time! We cannot compete with man city and their blase spending policy so sort the books out, it may be our redemption in the end!
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: darren woolley on September 23, 2010, 07:27:34 PM
I agree rutski.
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: Holtemeister on September 23, 2010, 07:44:25 PM
Ellis said much the same and he was continually castigated for it .......what makes Randy so different ?

I'd love to find the quote but it was something along the lines of when the bubble bust we will come out the other side in a position to capitalise.
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: Shrek on September 23, 2010, 07:56:36 PM
Can someone work out how much it's costs to just buy a ticket every home game.

Because with all these cheap offers is it actually cheaper buying a season ticket?
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 23, 2010, 08:02:17 PM
Simply supply and demand.

SHA can charge us close to 50 quid as they know they'll be 3k Villa fans out there who will pay it.

But equally we're finding out there isn't the demand to pay 45 quid to sit in the Trinity or Witton upper.
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 23, 2010, 08:07:14 PM
Can someone work out how much it's costs to just buy a ticket every home game.

Because with all these cheap offers is it actually cheaper buying a season ticket?

We must have about ten category AA or A games this season that are priced at eiher 30 or 29 quid in the North stand upper where I usually sit so that's 300 quid straight away so season ticket is still significantly cheaper.

They are doing a deal for 100 quid on the OS for the games against sha, Chelsea, Blackpool, Manure and arsenal which saves your 43 quid which I'd advise anyone who dosen't have a season ticket to get on to!
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: PaulTheVillan on September 23, 2010, 08:11:27 PM
For where my Season Ticket is a ticket v Blues is £37. Expensive.
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 23, 2010, 08:13:18 PM
Top price tickets will be 45 quid in the Witton upper, I imagine that's what we'll be chargin them aswelll.

I can see it not selling out.
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: DB on September 23, 2010, 08:49:55 PM
I was so close not getting a ST this year due to cost, but did in the end only afer taking a cheaper seat.
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on September 24, 2010, 06:09:38 PM
Can someone work out how much it's costs to just buy a ticket every home game.

Because with all these cheap offers is it actually cheaper buying a season ticket?

Thye offers don't happen as much as you'd think im afraid, I had a season ticket for donkeys and there always seemed to be offer's and since I packed it in 2 years ago there has hardly been any at all. If you want to make savings a season ticket is the only way to go
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: Ads on September 24, 2010, 06:37:26 PM
Simply supply and demand.


Germany has higher attendances than England though.
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: DB on September 24, 2010, 06:45:14 PM
Simply supply and demand.


Germany has higher attendances than England though.

...and demand is dropping. Football is a luxury some people can no longer afford.
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 24, 2010, 07:56:39 PM
Simply supply and demand.


Germany has higher attendances than England though.

Could that be because they charge lower ticket prices? I'm not being a smart arse, I have no idea how much an average ticket to a Bundesliga game is, which may be a factor in attendances there.
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 25, 2010, 07:24:23 PM
Simply supply and demand.


Germany has higher attendances than England though.

True but that's down I'd say to teams like Blackburn, Wigan, Bolton all with minimal home and away support.

If they all went down for instance to be replaced by say Leeds, Forest and Derby then attendances home and away would go up.
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: Lee on September 27, 2010, 12:11:53 PM
Simply supply and demand.


Germany has higher attendances than England though.

Could that be because they charge lower ticket prices? I'm not being a smart arse, I have no idea how much an average ticket to a Bundesliga game is, which may be a factor in attendances there.

.. and they have safe standing.
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 27, 2010, 12:36:08 PM
Simply supply and demand.


Germany has higher attendances than England though.

Could that be because they charge lower ticket prices? I'm not being a smart arse, I have no idea how much an average ticket to a Bundesliga game is, which may be a factor in attendances there.

.. and they have safe standing.


And considerably more sensible ticket pricing.

The most depressing (and depressingly predictable) thing about Sky era, monied football is that with all that money coming into the game from TV, it didn't go towards subsidising ticket prices, rather it went straight to players and agents.

That's all very short term. Lower (as in much lower) ticket prices would result in substantially larger attendances, and also introduce a new generation of supporters to match attending.

I don't have kids, so it isn't a problem I'll have to face, but I struggle to imagine how a lot of parents manage to cope finding the money to bring their children to watch football matches.
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: TimTheVillain on September 27, 2010, 12:42:46 PM
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/europe/features/article_1584962.php/German-fans-unhappy-at-rising-cost-of-match-tickets-News-Feature

22 Euros is proving too much for some Dortmund fans.
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 27, 2010, 12:52:12 PM
Simply supply and demand.


Germany has higher attendances than England though.

True but that's down I'd say to teams like Blackburn, Wigan, Bolton all with minimal home and away support.

If they all went down for instance to be replaced by say Leeds, Forest and Derby then attendances home and away would go up.

You could say the same about Hertha Berlin & Fortuna Dusseldorf.
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: Lee on September 27, 2010, 01:02:59 PM
Simply supply and demand.


Germany has higher attendances than England though.

Could that be because they charge lower ticket prices? I'm not being a smart arse, I have no idea how much an average ticket to a Bundesliga game is, which may be a factor in attendances there.

.. and they have safe standing.


And considerably more sensible ticket pricing.

The most depressing (and depressingly predictable) thing about Sky era, monied football is that with all that money coming into the game from TV, it didn't go towards subsidising ticket prices, rather it went straight to players and agents.

That's all very short term. Lower (as in much lower) ticket prices would result in substantially larger attendances, and also introduce a new generation of supporters to match attending.

I don't have kids, so it isn't a problem I'll have to face, but I struggle to imagine how a lot of parents manage to cope finding the money to bring their children to watch football matches.

I gave up my 20 year old Season Ticket purely for the cost last year. Change in career direction and my son playing Saturdays and Sunday meant I was missing games. Something I could no longer do. We still go when we can, but pick and choose (bloody fickl3). If the were generally lower, I would make the effort for us both to go.

And, on  a side note, I'd love to stand again.
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: London Villan on September 27, 2010, 01:12:11 PM
Cheap prices don't guarantee big gates though. Look at the Blackburn match, £10 a ticket and we get our lowest gate for years.
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: Pete3206 on September 27, 2010, 01:15:07 PM
I think the fact it was Blackburn had someting to do with it. The crowd against Cardiff last year would have been very low if it hadn't been for a large number of away fans to swell the gate. Still, early rounds and all that.
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: cheltenhamlion on September 27, 2010, 01:24:58 PM
Two things.

The fact we have had such a fractured start to the season would have contributed against Blackburn. That and the fact we played them 5 times last season and they don't exactly playing a game that is pretty to watch do they.

On the German thing, we went in the club shop when we were in Hamburg. You could buy a season ticket there for cheaper than the cost of a replica shirt.
Title: Re: Season ticket prices....
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 27, 2010, 01:27:36 PM
Cheap prices don't guarantee big gates though. Look at the Blackburn match, £10 a ticket and we get our lowest gate for years.

A lot of whom will be the same people who fork out PL prices the rest of the season, hence the reluctance to go and see us play a side we played at home three times last season.

It's the same elsewhere, small crowds for the early rounds of the CC, but you can't divorce it from the cost of attending PL matches.
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