Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Mister E on September 12, 2010, 06:12:50 PM
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I don't pay for online Times but read in my hard copy this morning an article by David Walsh. He wrote a balanced pieec about GH and argues that he should appoint an English assistant manager to support him at VP. Three names were mentioned: Mary Poppins, Monkey-Face Keown and Gareth Southgate.
The logic was based on the likely length of tenure by GH (2-3 years at most, according to Walsh); the opportunity to continue Villa's "English experiment" (my words, not Walsh's) and the benefit to English football of developing English managerial talent.
Not sure what I think really, although I wouldn't be averse to either Keown or Southgate. Not so sure about Shearer (he's more likely to bugger off back ot the N-E after having tapped up the experience at VP).
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Gary McAllister is the latest name linked. I'd be quite happy with that, seems to be a thoughtful and intelligent man and obviously knows Houllier well.
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Pity he isn't inglish.
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Proof, if it were ever needed, that what most football writers need is to have their head slammed in a car door over and over again
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I couldn't give a fuck about the benefit to English football of developing English managerial talent.
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I couldn't give a fuck about the benefit to English football of developing English managerial talent.
I can't hear Alan Shearer or Monkey-Face Keown voice an opinion without wanting to throw heavy objects around the room.
As for Southgate, he can apply for a job at the Villa when he's had a successful spell of management at a decent club.
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So as well as developing players for Man City, we're now supposed to groom young managers for England as well? Oh, what joy.
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Gary McAllister is the latest name linked. I'd be quite happy with that, seems to be a thoughtful and intelligent man and obviously knows Houllier well.
Did pretty well in his brief sprint at Coventry.
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Gary McAllister is the latest name linked. I'd be quite happy with that, seems to be a thoughtful and intelligent man and obviously knows Houllier well.
Did pretty well in his brief sprint at Coventry.
I'm sure he'd go the extra 100 yards for us.
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Gary McAllister is the latest name linked. I'd be quite happy with that, seems to be a thoughtful and intelligent man and obviously knows Houllier well.
Did pretty well in his brief sprint at Coventry.
I'm sure he'd go the extra 100 yards for us.
I'm sure Houllier will pass him the baton shortly.
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McCallister would be fine, and a potential replacement. I hate Shearer. He can fuck off.
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McAllister was a top class signing by GH at the time and I'm sure he could teach NRC how to pass.
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McAllister was a top class signing by GH at the time and I'm sure he could teach NRC how to pass.
Not so sure about the NRC comment, but GH could do a lot worse than McAllister - he knows how to play the game.
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I'd go along with Gary Mac, Can't go wrong with a guy with that much playing experience. Did the business at Leeds and Liverpool, was Coventry's most consistent player on their downward spiral, good to keep the Sottish connection going too.
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McAllister was a top class signing by GH at the time and I'm sure he could teach NRC how to pass.
Not so sure about the NRC comment, but GH could do a lot worse than McAllister - he knows how to play the game.
If McAllister can't teach NRC to pass then there is no hope.
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McAllister was a top class signing by GH at the time and I'm sure he could teach NRC how to pass.
Not so sure about the NRC comment, but GH could do a lot worse than McAllister - he knows how to play the game.
If McAllister can't teach NRC to pass then there is no hope.
If he cant pass by now I would suggert there is no hope.
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I couldn't give a fuck about the benefit to English football of developing English managerial talent.
I can't hear Alan Shearer or Monkey-Face Keown voice an opinion without wanting to throw heavy objects around the room.
As for Southgate, he can apply for a job at the Villa when he's had a successful spell of management at a decent club.
Surely not ? we will never have enough ambition for Mr. Ambition!
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I'd welcome Southgate back. I think a few years tutelage under Ged would be ideal for him.
I don't think he did too bad a job at Middlesboro, if anything he just had bad timing, joining just after the big spending days. I'd also suggest his record stands up against Strachan's (...who's record at Celtic was comparable with...).
He clearly has the ambition and wants to get to the top. With Ged providing contacts etc it could work nicely.
I'd throw Grayson and Cowan's names in there too.
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What about Steve Clarke?
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What about Steve Clarke?
I'd go with that.
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What about Steve Clarke?
I'd go with that.
Rather have Ken Clarke!
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Why?
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Gary McAllister is the latest name linked. I'd be quite happy with that, seems to be a thoughtful and intelligent man and obviously knows Houllier well.
Did pretty well in his brief sprint at Coventry.
I'm sure he'd go the extra 100 yards for us.
I'm sure Houllier will pass him the baton shortly.
Could be a Bolt out of the blue!
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Why?
What about Steve Clarke?
I'd go with that.
Rather have Ken Clarke!
He has experience in balancing the books!
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If we are wanting McAllister appointed because he used to be able to pass a football I'd say we have an ideal alternative candidate already working for us with the youth team.
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mcallister might be an interesting choice...
houllier is a defensive minded counter attacking manager...
someone like mcallister might help add some attacking flair to the tactical side of our play...
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Gary McAllister is the latest name linked. I'd be quite happy with that, seems to be a thoughtful and intelligent man and obviously knows Houllier well.
Did pretty well in his brief sprint at Coventry.
I'm sure he'd go the extra 100 yards for us.
I'm sure Houllier will pass him the baton shortly.
Could be a Bolt out of the blue!
Hopefully not with hurdles as we have enough of those to get over with getting Houllier on board
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What was McAllister's record like at Coventry then? And he was doing well why was he there such a short time?
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What was McAllister's record like at Coventry then? And he was doing well why was he there such a short time?
Same reason O'Neill left Celtic, although with sadder results.
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What was McAllister's record like at Coventry then? And he was doing well why was he there such a short time?
Same reason O'Neill left Celtic, although with sadder results.
Indeed - for those unaware of his sad loss
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-378906/Footballers-wife-loses-cancer-battle.html
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Sorry to hear that and feel like a bit of an idiot for asking now - I should have known that!
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What about Steve Clarke?
Absolutely.
An outstanding coach. I'm less sure of McAllister mind. He didn't do that well at Leeds and is currently Stracan's assistant at Miseryboro.
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Keown, Shearer and Southgate have all become regular fixtures in football on TV though- it's an arena that entices ex pros in and rarely sees them make a successful return to the game. McCoist has been an exception, but in the SPL you only have to be the better of two teams to be a success. Dowie, Merson, and Kamara have all tried their hand at management and ended up preferring the easier ride of TV football- it keeps them in the public eye and under much less pressure. Merse in particular was dead set on becoming a manager in his book Hero and Villain, but now he seems happy to have people watching him watching football on a Saturday afternoon. After Shearer trying his hand at saving Newcastle two years ago, and Southgate's Middlesbrough experience, could you blame them for preferring the studio to the training pitch and dugout? Alan Hansen made it perfectly clear that management is not for him, and as a result he has one of the safest jobs in football.
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I think Southgate will make a very good manager one day. It was just too much to soon at a PL club. He needs a spell earning his stripes at a Championship or League One side, or as an assistant manager, coach at a PL club. He has always come across very intelligently, and we could do a lot worse than have him working in the background under Houllier.
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Strachan was just on 5Live saying that we have approached Boro about McAllister.
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Gary Mc would be an excellent addition, very calm under pressure, and with Houllier's medical history that might be a real bonus. I know Southgate acted like a prick when he left Villa, but that was in the days of HDE and we were lacking ambition, he just landed on the wrong ship and lookedlike a chump for doing so.