Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: wozwebs on September 04, 2010, 11:00:11 PM
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http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/942451/PLAYER-REVOLT-IF-HOULLIER-GETS-JOB.html
PLAYER REVOLT IF HOULLIER GETS JOB
Frenchman's Villa role under discussion
HOULLIER: In advanced talks with Villa
By Greg Gobere
ASTON VILLA will face a player revolt if they appoint Gerard Houllier.
Senior players at Villa Park believe the arrival of the ex-Liverpool boss will spell the end of their career at the club.
Goalkeeper Brad Friedel and full-back Stephen Warnock both endured unhappy spells at Anfield under the French coach.
Friedel was sold by Houllier to Blackburn in 1999, while Warnock was shipped out on loan to Coventry before later establishing himself in the side when Rafa Benitez took the reins.
Sport of the World understands the duo will seek urgent talks with the Villa hierarchy if they press ahead with the plan to make Houllier their boss.
Previous manager Martin O'Neill left after causing friction in the dressing room, and chairman Randy Lerner will be disturbed to discover there could already be existing bad blood between key players and the next boss.
A Villa source said: "When it was revealed Houllier was the favourite for the Villa, it went down like a lead balloon with a couple of the players. You can't underestimate the strength of feeling, especially of someone such as Brad Friedel who felt he had no relationship with Houllier when he was at Anfield."
Houllier is scheduled for further talks this week as Aston Villa seek to rubber-stamp his arrival.
He returned to England yesterday to attend Jamie Carragher's testimonial at Anfield.
He was tight-lipped when pressed on the Villa vacancy, but it's clear the job interests him.
"Never and always are the two words you can't use in football," he said.
The French boss fits the Midlanders' profile due to his vast experience of European and English football.
Houllier is currently technical director of the French Football Federation and is known to be keen to return to the Premier League where he enjoyed some notable early success at Anfield.
It's believed he'd be eager to be a full-time manager rather than director of football has previously suggested.
Houllier initially moved to Anfield as joint-manager with Roy Evans in 1998 under a similar restructure of the coaching staff.
When that failed, he took sole charge.
But the unhappiness at the latter years of his reign still run deep with some of his former players.
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Bloody great
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Triffic Rodders, bloody triffic.
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Frigging hell, what is it with these overpaid tossers?
First of all they don`t like MON, hes gone and they are just as upset if Houllier comes on board .. talk about player power.
Seems again to indicate that the players prefer KMac as head poncho
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Two players, no direct quotes, it's the NOTW.
Not exactly a "player revolt" is it?
"Sport of the world understands".....yeah right.
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"A Villa source said"....
For fuck's sake, is anyone actually taking this seriously?
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yeah I'll believe that when I see it.
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what a load of rubbish
move on, nothing to see here
friedel was behind englands number 1, david james
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looks like some will Coop
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its pretty good NOTW journalism, Friedel was unhappy at being dumped by Houlier and i bet Warnock didnt like getting sent to Coventry, who would?
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MON's friends in the press have been quick to get to work.
Friedel and Warnock pissed off about something that happened 11 years ago. I am sure they are much more grown up than the article gives them credit for. Both are now very much established first team players, why would any new manager walk in and just get rid off them. What a load of crap from the NOTW. Suddenly feeling sorry for the Pakistani cricketers.
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I bloody hate this shit stiring good for nothing rag. It has to be the worst excuse for a newspaper. I don't know how they get away with writing such crap time and time again.
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What a load of bullshit.
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Even if it is true, I bet Gentle Ben won't be too upset.
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The phrase "facing player revolt" is a bit misleading don't you think? Another example of a tabloid involved in hyperbole!
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No footy this weekend so that rag has to fill it's pages with any old crap....
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I glad most see it as cobblers.
Two players from the squad were not in favour with him at the start of the millenium. Big chuffing deal.
Hardly a revolt, is it?
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I smell a big pile of horse manure here.
Friedel was behind Westerveld, and given he'd had a number of problems getting a pro contract and thus had only trained, he was probably rightly so.
As for Warnock, he didn't make his senior debut at liverpool till 04, because he was still quite young and they probably had an old pro, he was sent away to get experience, got POTS at coventry, who let's not forget had only gone down 2 seasons before, and therefore were not the small club they are today.
No quotes from players +an anonymous source = fantasyland reporting
Anyway, even if it were true, who sees GH dropping Brad Snr or Warnock? Who would he replace them with?! Brad Jnr + Habib Beye?! No offence to Brad Jnr, but he's not ready, and Beye is crap.
It's not a revolt, it's someone trying to fill column inches by writing utter tosh, and it's not very good tosh at that.
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I suspect it would be John Carew who would have more of a problem with Houllier than Friedel and Warnock. Houllier of course instigated the Baros for Carew swap which was one of the best bits of transfer dealing at Villa in recent times.
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My chin-ometer is off the scale. They are professional footballers and they accept this being part of the business. They are both also very different players to what they were 6 or 7 years ago. This is a bullshit story of the highest order. And let's play stupid for a second and assume it is true. So we lose Warnock and Friedel by next season. Big fucking deal. It's not Ash and Gabby we're talking about is it. Move on. Nothing to see here folks.
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Utter tosh from the Murdoch rag as usual.
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Freidel is near the exit door anyway. A valid criticism of MON, whom i supported, was that both Shay Given and Joe Hart have ebeen available and would have given us both better medium and long term service.
What Warnock thinks of a new manager is neither here nor there to an appointment.
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This is utter rubbish!!!
if this is any bit true then the players need to grow up but its utter utter bollox i am sure of it!!!
Friedel said in the Wembley programme last year that he was thankfull to Houllier for letting him leave and establish himself as 1st team keeper else where even when Liverpool at the time didn't have a back up keeper.
i hope Houllier comes in as Manager now just to shut all these stupid gossips up, also reading the comments on the NOTW saying Houllier is too big for Villa, and we should be happy in what we get!!!! i'm geussing we aint the popular team we once was!
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If Friedel left would hardly be a disaster anyways
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If Friedel left would hardly be a disaster anyways
he was our best player against Everton!
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It's the notw filling column inches putting 2+2 together and coming up with five.
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If Friedel left would hardly be a disaster anyways
It would be at the moment, we haven't got a good enough replacament and we've missed out on at least 2 quality GK's already.
I think this is a story for stories sake.
In other words, a load of crap.
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If Friedel left would hardly be a disaster anyways
We beat Everton because of players like Friedel
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all this houllier, staunton stuff has to be rubbish, ........ randy aint that stupid !!
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It is true the NOTW have got the private phone transcripts to prove it........ Oh hang on a minute!
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Load of shit
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Surprised Carew never got a mention as houllier got rid of him too! Ultimately if true ifs tough shit, and the players know where the door is.
I don't want keV mac as he appears a nice guy and I'm sure. The players would love that rather than a man who can impose discipline, if houllier gets it then I hope he will get our full support.
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Its amazing how much the papers can get away with by saying a 'source',they should be made to name the source,or write nothing instead,then there pages would be empty.
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I know Frieldal had a good game against Everton but he's 40 next season and he will need replacing. There are enough times on here when people are questioning him.
I really can't see that he would have a problem working with Houlier, I doubt Warnock would either he was 22 when he was loaned out
File under NOTW bollocks
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he got rid of heskey too...
every cloud, and all that...
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Where's the 'Like!' button?
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I've just had a horrible thought! Doesn't Houlier love Heskey?
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I've just had a horrible thought! Doesn't Houlier love Heskey?
He paid £11m for him.
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and then sold him to small heath for 6 mil...
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I've just had a horrible thought! Doesn't Houlier love Heskey?
He paid £11m for him.
This snippet should automatically rule him out of contention, I'd forgotten about that.
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I seem to recall from past interviews that Warnock has a bit of a chip on his shoulder about Liverpool selling him but I think his ire was directed more towards Benitez (and who can blame him) than Houllier.
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He was one of the most promising young strikers in the country at the time and didn't do too badly in his first few years at Liverpool.
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What's that about the newspapers ignoring us?
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Freidel is near the exit door anyway. A valid criticism of MON, whom i supported, was that both Shay Given and Joe Hart have ebeen available and would have given us both better medium and long term service.
Shay Given was available to Man Citeh only because they tapped him up and offered the silly money that year. Joe Hart has only ever been available on loan. But we do seriously need a full time replacement for Brad Snr and Brad Jnr is not the one.
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I seem to recall from past interviews that Warnock has a bit of a chip on his shoulder about Liverpool selling him but I think his ire was directed more towards Benitez (and who can blame him) than Houllier.
If he has a chip about being sold, I would assume that's entirely aimed at Benitez, since Houllier just loaned him out to get experience....
I know Friedel had a good game against Everton but he's 40 next season and he will need replacing.
Why? Because he's 40? Get real. If he keeps making spectacular saves that keep us in games, then I'd keep him in the team. Being a Goalie isn't the same as being an outfield player, he needs to have good reflexes, and I've seen very little evidence that he hasn't got them still.
Also, he needs to be able to position himself and read the game ahead of him, neither of these will suffer from his age.
If he stays fit, and there's no indication he won't, then I'd keep hold of one of the most reliable, experienced goal keepers in the league.
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Could be curtains for John Carew. To be honest I don't mind Carew being shipped out. The guy only decides to turn up when HE wants, and that is always after January.
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I don't see any truth in this. If anybody would have issues with Houllier it'll be Carew. But we have Gabby and the Fonz coming through anyway.
He can't come in and drop Warnock or Friedal...at least not until he can sign his own players and Friedal will need eplacing in the next year or so in any case...
Nothing to see here.
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Can't see Carew being a problem in France Carew was too slow and too big for their game, Carew is built for the premiership and i'm sure Houllier will know that
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If Carew gets shipped out because it indicates a change in philospohy at the club then I'd support that. I happen to think Carew can be effective in a number of different styles. That is we don't just have to pump it up to him. I want to see us play the ball on the deck a lot more in the future, and I want us to buy players that can not only control the ball, but keep possession and are bright enough to adopt different strategies and tactics.
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It's time we had another quote from Curtis Davies to put some more credibility on it.
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It's time we had another quote from Curtis Davies to put some more credibility on it.
I hope he's the first guy shown the door in January. Fucking waster. He's a legend in his own mind.
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I bought the News of the world today for the first time in my life (I want one of those £5 hotel rooms). I know I knew already but what an awful rag. Everything about it is sleazy and they love all that kiss and tell rubbish. Having no doubt given a prostitute a small fortune, they end the Rooney piece with 'but when it comes to morals, he's a pauper'.
As far as the players revolt story goes they have simply seen that a few players did not make his teams in the past and then put a sensationist angle to it. Its made up crap that they need to create a story to fill the gaps left when the transfer window closed.
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Warnock was only a young lad at Liverpool when Houllier was there so natural for him to be sent out on loan so can't see what beef he'd have with GH.
Friedel, you'd expect GH to realise he's a much better keeper now than when he was at Liverpool.
Only one I'd expect to be miffed is Carew, I certainly would be if I was swapped for Baros!
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Friedel and Carew's contracts are expiring this year aren't they? And while they've been good value, they're ageing and on massive deals. I wouldn't be totally against saying goodbye to either.
Warnock is a player I wanted us to sign for ages, when we did I was over the moon. But he's been shite since his whiplash at Old Trafford and I'm starting to question his ability.
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I wouldn't be overly concerned about the Carew/Baros thing, at the time it made sense for both clubs, Carew was better suited to the English game rather than French and visa versa with Baros.
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Warnock's still decent but has certainly suffered more lapses during games since O'Runner rushed him back from injury in time for the cup final.
Carew won't be here this time next year. Friedel will get a new 1 year deal with added coaching I'd imagine.
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Warnock's still decent but has certainly suffered more lapses during games since O'Runner rushed him back from injury in time for the cup final.
Carew won't be here this time next year. Friedel will get a new 1 year deal with added coaching I'd imagine.
Well as we currently have no GK coach that wouldn't be a bad idea.
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Load of crap. Lazy,lazy,lazy. Next !!!
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Wrong place
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The News of The Screws have hardly covered themselves in glory with this piece, but I doubt they will lose any sleep over it.
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Typical NOTW article really.
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Jason Mcateer was on ssn and said will be a shock to the players. He says Houlier is all about defensive work and tactics.
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Talking of shock, I was shocked at how incredibly stupid Jason MacAteer manages to look and sound.
He makes Jamie Carragher look like Stephen Fry.
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Jason Mcateer was on ssn and said will be a shock to the players. He says Houlier is all about defensive work and tactics.
McAteer's nickname at Liverpool was `Trigger'. Even Donna Air thought he was thick
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McAteer once said:-
"I'm known for being a fool and they called me Trigger. I once bought a pizza and was asked if I wanted it sliced into four or eight. I said just four because I couldn't manage eight slices!"
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What a stupid knob.
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News of the world have seen a small connection and expanded on it. Standard lazy journalism ...............
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So Houllier sold his second choice keeper and loaned out a young full back ? It's hardly signilling an end to their careers is it ?
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McAteer, better or worse player than Hendrie?
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Agree with all thats been said about shoddy "journalism " on this rag...so who's going to commit to a boycott of it? (would anyone admit to buying it anyway?) :o
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Don't actually buy the thing myself. full of airheads with tits trying to make a name for themselves.